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by N1611B
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:44 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 9/12 Democratic Debate Thread
Replies: 64
Views: 2231

Re: 9/12 Democratic Debate Thread

Let's see, there's sure to be plenty more mass shootings in the next 10 months...given the nation's barometer on that, Beto may have jumped everyone with bold move. Regardless of it's likely occurence, his ;I'm coming for your guns' slogan could very well be as empty as 'building the Wall and Mexic...

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by N1611B
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:43 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: NC GOP override budget veto with surprise vote on 9/11
Replies: 36
Views: 1629

Re: NC GOP override budget veto with surprise vote on 9/11

Source? Again: source? Just because you keep saying something over and over and over with zero proof does not make it true. Links were already posted that prove Republicans said they had no votes scheduled during the memorial. They lied. The proof is there. Click on the link to see the proof. Sure....

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by N1611B
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:42 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: NC GOP override budget veto with surprise vote on 9/11
Replies: 36
Views: 1629

Re: NC GOP override budget veto with surprise vote on 9/11

It still does not excuse the FACT that Republicans put out a schedule saying THERE WOULD BE NO VOTES until the afternoon and THEY LIED. REPUBLICANS LIED. But, I can see how that is the same thing as "a partisan site says no Democrats were at a memorial". Totally the same. Democrats and th...

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by N1611B
Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:13 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 9/12 Democratic Debate Thread
Replies: 64
Views: 2231

Re: 9/12 Democratic Debate Thread

And it most likely will prove a hit with most Americans! He went 'there'...if Eric Swallwell had that kind of fire on his 1st debate, he'd still be on stage. Uncle Joe....he's just no gonna make it. Your staff clutching their pearls every time he opens his mouth doesn't bode well in the long game.....

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by N1611B
Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:34 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 9/12 Democratic Debate Thread
Replies: 64
Views: 2231

Re: 9/12 Democratic Debate Thread

Beto went into desperation mode threatening to confiscate people's guns. The GOP is going to love that and that quote is going to be playing on Trump campaign ads throughout 2020. And it most likely will prove a hit with most Americans! He went 'there'...if Eric Swallwell had that kind of fire on h...

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by N1611B
Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:15 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 9/12 Democratic Debate Thread
Replies: 64
Views: 2231

Re: 9/12 Democratic Debate Thread

Let's also discuss a death threat to one of the Democratic candidates. https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/13/20864426/twitter-death-threat-beto-orourke-briscoe-cain-democratic-debate-gun-reform https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/13/orourke-death-threat-texas-lawmaker-1494500 Families and children ...

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by N1611B
Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:13 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: NC GOP override budget veto with surprise vote on 9/11
Replies: 36
Views: 1629

Re: NC GOP override budget veto with surprise vote on 9/11

Source? Again: source? Just because you keep saying something over and over and over with zero proof does not make it true. Links were already posted that prove Republicans said they had no votes scheduled during the memorial. They lied. The proof is there. Click on the link to see the proof. Sure....

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by N1611B
Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:59 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 9/12 Democratic Debate Thread
Replies: 64
Views: 2231

Re: 9/12 Democratic Debate Thread

I love how righteis are telling us "good" reasons why none of these candidates are electable. This one is too short, that one is too tall, too much sweat, not enough sweat, too far left, not far enough left.... Here's an idea: instead of telling us who to vote for, Republicans maybe shoul...

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by N1611B
Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:54 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: NC GOP override budget veto with surprise vote on 9/11
Replies: 36
Views: 1629

Re: NC GOP override budget veto with surprise vote on 9/11

You are DL saying "both sides do it" without saying it. Weak argument, man. There was a 9/11 memorial. It happened. People attended it. You choose not to believe it happened. Even though it did, media was there, people were there. I happened. You can say it was a lie and never happened. I...

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by N1611B
Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:36 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 9/12 Democratic Debate Thread
Replies: 64
Views: 2231

Re: 9/12 Democratic Debate Thread

Beto went into desperation mode threatening to confiscate people's guns. The GOP is going to love that and that quote is going to be playing on Trump campaign ads throughout 2020. Biden looked good, and looked Presidential (except for the weird teeth gaffe). He's our best hope, and I say this as a R...

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by N1611B
Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: NC GOP override budget veto with surprise vote on 9/11
Replies: 36
Views: 1629

Re: NC GOP override budget veto with surprise vote on 9/11

So you are okay with Republicans lying to push their agenda. Got it. Even with evidence presented that this is actually what happened, you are still willing to go with whatever Republicans say. Of course. I'm not really "ok" with any of it....lying to push their agenda (if that is what oc...

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by N1611B
Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:24 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: NC GOP override budget veto with surprise vote on 9/11
Replies: 36
Views: 1629

Re: NC GOP override budget veto with surprise vote on 9/11

There is evidence that the chairman of the House Rules, Calendar, and Operations committee told the minority leader there would be no votes during the morning. The few Democrats there were so that a quorum could be established to get through formal procedures to open the day's work, with the schedu...

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by N1611B
Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:14 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: NC GOP override budget veto with surprise vote on 9/11
Replies: 36
Views: 1629

Re: NC GOP override budget veto with surprise vote on 9/11

Two Democrats were at a 9/11 memorial. The rest just chose not to show up. There is evidence that the chairman of the House Rules, Calendar, and Operations committee told the minority leader there would be no votes during the morning. The few Democrats there were so that a quorum could be establish...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:33 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws
Replies: 104
Views: 2459

Re: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws

So where is your line? 6., 7. 9, ? Well just tell me. How many did you use the last time you shot someone? There is no line, really. Many popular handguns hold nearly a dozen rounds. Many rifles can tolerate magazines that can hold 30 (or more). I think a 100-round drum for home defense would be a ...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:13 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws
Replies: 104
Views: 2459

Re: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws

And you don't know how they fought back, or if their guns were accessible. You keep making outrageous claims that can't be supported. The only outrageous claim here is your claim that 5 bullets are sufficient for an untrained person to defend themselves from a criminal who aims to harm them. So whe...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:07 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws
Replies: 104
Views: 2459

Re: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws

And most of those are simple assault. and in over 65% of the cases they know the attacker. Where are the headshots from unknown middle of the night attackers? So you find it acceptable that people are assaulted, raped, shot, stabbed, etc. in their own homes as long as they don't die? Yikes. And you...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:06 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws
Replies: 104
Views: 2459

Re: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws

It is also interesting to note that some of those home invasions were by people known to the victims in some way. Maybe a friend, maybe a family member, maybe "s/he works in our yard every week". Indeed. Shows to be careful in who you trust. And guns or fewer taxes will not stop those att...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:53 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws
Replies: 104
Views: 2459

Re: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws

Ok you convinced me. You are still in kindergarten right? Back to potty training. Says the person who believes that every layperson is an expert marksman and that every single gunshot victim dies immediately after being shot one time. I never said that. You did. Don't worry, memory cognizance comes...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:52 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws
Replies: 104
Views: 2459

Re: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws

Show me the statistics of home gun round assault by unknown assailants vs innocent deaths by mass murders. In a typical year more than 260,000 Americans become the victim of a violent crime during a home invasion. https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/vdhb.txt And most of those are simple assault. ...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:36 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws
Replies: 104
Views: 2459

Re: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws

Show me the statistics of home gun round assault by unknown assailants vs innocent deaths by mass murders. In a typical year more than 260,000 Americans become the victim of a violent crime during a home invasion. https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/vdhb.txt It is also interesting to note that so...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws
Replies: 104
Views: 2459

Re: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws

i assume people in danger would call for help, I also assume that people with 8 holes in them , have 8 holes because someone that was a faiirly good shot was allowed to have way too much ammo, and wanted that person dead. So Other than your observations, the only consistency is that too much ammuni...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:29 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws
Replies: 104
Views: 2459

Re: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws

I never said one bullet., Why are ammo heads always fixated on one bullet? You don't delineate do you? All or none right? You're right. Our soldiers and police officers likely don't need any bullets at all. They are supposed to be professionals, right? All they need are throwing knives. That way, i...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:06 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws
Replies: 104
Views: 2459

Re: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws

No, it is their job, and Soldiers don't keep the ammo on them when they go home. Right, it is their job. And if they are good at their job, they shouldn't need more than one bullet, right? Perhaps all of our soldiers and police officers should be equipped with single-shot muskets? After all, what k...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:04 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws
Replies: 104
Views: 2459

Re: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws

You have nothing to back up your claim that more than 5 shots are needed unless you are a drug runner. Experience and common sense. I work in emergency services. I've seen people still walking around and functional with 8 bullet holes in them. Your argument assumes that 1) every single person is an...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:59 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws
Replies: 104
Views: 2459

Re: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws

So every single soldier and police officer is paranoid in your mind? Interesting. No, it is their job, and Soldiers don't keep the ammo on them when they go home. Right, it is their job. And if they are good at their job, they shouldn't need more than one bullet, right? Perhaps all of our soldiers ...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:58 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws
Replies: 104
Views: 2459

Re: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws

They are trained to go after dangerous people. Not run and hide first and call for assistance. The average citizen can defend themselves with 5 shots untless the criminals really want them dead. In which case thanks to large magazines, they will probably come with more bullets than the average ammo...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:55 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws
Replies: 104
Views: 2459

Re: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws

Where did I say one shot? you are such a misleading debater. anything more than four or five... Ring a bell? Oh sure, cause you can actually defend yourself with multiple magazines from a home invasion, cause that happens all the time right? You want to paint every event with the same broad stroke....

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:54 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws
Replies: 104
Views: 2459

Re: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws

That means that if even highly trained personnel often need more than five rounds to defend themselves, it is not unreasonable for your average citizen to also need more than five rounds to defend themselves. They are trained to go after dangerous people. Not run and hide first and call for assista...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:48 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws
Replies: 104
Views: 2459

Re: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws

if you need that much, then you might be more of a danger to others than a defender of yourself. Yup, that's why soldiers and police officers only carry five rounds at a time. And that means what? They are the government with accountability. not private incompetent shooters. That means that if even...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:45 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws
Replies: 104
Views: 2459

Re: Put Your Faith in Government, More Laws

That's how it works, have enough to defend yourself. Anyone who says you won't ever need more than fore or five is an absolute idiot. if you need that much, then you might be more of a danger to others than a defender of yourself. Yup, that's why soldiers and police officers only carry five rounds ...

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by N1611B
Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:32 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Also in recent polling, 71% of suburban voters and 64% of GOP women back restrictions on high performance weapons. https://amp.businessinsider.com/gun-control-democrats-suburbs-gop-senate-2019-8 Support for specific gun control legislation usually peaks in the aftermath of high-profile mass shootin...

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by N1611B
Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:34 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

So it seems, you cowards just lob accusations around, because at the end of the day, you have nothing to fear. Got it. I'll keep smiling, because nothing is going to change. Trump approval rating hovering around 40%, GOP, house retirements every day, 75%+ support for universal background checks. Sm...

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by N1611B
Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:32 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

The first amendment has evolved over time as limits have been placed on it regarding things like hate speech, threats, perjury, blackmail etc.... WRONG! Hate speech is protected. You’re absolutely right, that’s my mistake. However, the other examples are correct and the point still stands. They 1st...

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by N1611B
Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:29 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

When the Constitution was written, there were no AR-15s or Tommy guns or the weapons we have now. Likewise, there were no internal combustion engines. The "all guns all the time" crowd keeps saying it is a false equivalence and not worth debating. How? Why should assault weapons be covere...

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by N1611B
Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:00 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

When the Constitution was written, there were no AR-15s or Tommy guns or the weapons we have now. Likewise, there were no internal combustion engines. The "all guns all the time" crowd keeps saying it is a false equivalence and not worth debating. How? Why should assault weapons be covere...

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by N1611B
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:28 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

And it can not be enforce because NRA let's their lawyers do the talking. The Gilroy shooter went to Nevada to get his weapons. In Chicago, they can simply go to rural Illinois or go to Indiana. There are laws on the books but, thanks to NRA, we can not enforce them. It might violate the last four ...

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by N1611B
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:12 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

There is sensible legislation already. And it can not be enforce because NRA let's their lawyers do the talking. The Gilroy shooter went to Nevada to get his weapons. In Chicago, they can simply go to rural Illinois or go to Indiana. There are laws on the books but, thanks to NRA, we can not enforc...

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by N1611B
Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:50 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

The ease of purchasing guns in Indiana is part of the problem. I await your sincere denial of this... It is illegal for someone banned from purchasing a handgun in Chicago to purchase a handgun in Indiana. Even private sales? What about Illinois law? Someone going from downtown Chicago to Joliet? Y...

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by N1611B
Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:37 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

You just keep repeating this. Sixty percent of guns seized by Chicago police came from outside Illinois. Twenty percent from Indiana. Nope, you can't just drive across the state line and provide your real ID and purchase a hand gun. You can have an Indiana resident buy for you - a straw man purchas...

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by N1611B
Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:02 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Here's a fun thing to do--ask MSPNWA to show how more guns equals less gun deaths. He'll disappear faster than Trump to a golf course during a natural disaster. What freedoms dear? Gun drills at your child's kindergarten? Sending kids to school with backpacks that double as bullet proof vests? Arme...

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by N1611B
Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:29 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

National gun registry, insurance requirements, universal background checks, allowing the CDC to study gun violence as a public health issue..... None of the measures prohibit the ownership of firearms by law-abiding citizens, would you give them a shot in a effort to save lives? Now explain how tho...

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by N1611B
Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:27 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

A person in Indiana can get a gun mush easier than a person in Chicago, no? For example, in Illinois, a background check is required for a private sale, there is a waiting period for gun sales, a buyer needs a state permit etc... A handgun permit is issued by the county that you live in. If you liv...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:30 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

OK, great, I agree with you on this. So how do we create a mechanism to make these kinds of laws enforceable? Lets agree that its always going to be impossible to prevent two people to meet in somewhere to exchange a weapon. So what I'm suggesting is a gun registry (and spare me the slippery slope ...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:09 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: The Texas Special

In El Paso and many other shootings those who are armed realize that if I pull out my gun to stop the shooter another person is going to think they are the shooter and so on and then it becomes multiple more times worse. The NRA is missing a sales opportunity. They could market the NRA sanctioned &...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:08 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

But all you need is a buddy with a residence in Indiana. They can buy, buy, buy all they want, drive 45 minutes to Chicago and hand them out like peanuts on Southwest Airlines. Now, if the buyer was required to register that gun on a federal gun registry, then he would know that any crimes committe...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:58 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

A person in Indiana can get a gun mush easier than a person in Chicago, no? For example, in Illinois, a background check is required for a private sale, there is a waiting period for gun sales, a buyer needs a state permit etc... A handgun permit is issued by the county that you live in. If you liv...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:51 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Saw on the news this morning that the Odessa shooter was not eligible to own a firearm. Once again, the gun laws aren't the problem. Enforcement is. Instead of worrying about new laws, how about worrying about enforcing the ones that are already on the books? It will be interesting to see how he go...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:50 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Chicago is 45 minutes from Indiana and an hour for Wisconsin. What are their gun laws like? How about DC and Baltimore? Just a stones throw from Virginia's relatively lax state gun laws. Gun laws need to be federally enforced, otherwise they are worth less than the paper they are written on. Once a...

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:44 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Saw on the news this morning that the Odessa shooter was not eligible to own a firearm. Once again, the gun laws aren't the problem. Enforcement is. Instead of worrying about new laws, how about worrying about enforcing the ones that are already on the books?

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by N1611B
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:41 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10459

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Elaborate please. Why is that a lame excuse? States with lax laws are next door. That lame excuse. Lame. Like the liberal loon, Lightfoot, blames it on republicans. Gun control doesn't work. You just cannot accept it. Why is it 'lame'. What, in your mind, invalidates that argument? The law. Chicago...

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