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by WidebodyPTV
Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta still waiting for MoM
Replies: 49
Views: 6225

Re: Delta still waiting for MoM

phatfarmlines wrote:
Hopefully this news quells any notion on this board that the A339NEO would replace the 767-300. That's too big even if the seat-cost economics are better.


It isn’t news, it’s just DL reiterating that, depending on economic circumstances, the retirement of the 763 is flexible.

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by WidebodyPTV
Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta still waiting for MoM
Replies: 49
Views: 6225

Re: Delta still waiting for MoM

Considering Ed's comments in 2019 about wanting to be the launch customer of the NMA, I don't think the Delta narrative has changed despite Boeing being in more of black hole than it was then. The fact they are mum about the A321XLR being an option doesn't mean they have excluded it yet either. The...

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by WidebodyPTV
Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta still waiting for MoM
Replies: 49
Views: 6225

Re: Delta still waiting for MoM

Taking a step back further.....what he really comes down to with fuel is just how much of the fuel price increase can they pass along to passengers in increased fares and how does higher prices impact (discressionary) demand. There is a whole of what I would call "fragile" capacity out th...

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by WidebodyPTV
Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta still waiting for MoM
Replies: 49
Views: 6225

Re: Delta still waiting for MoM

Put down the pom poms. The true reason DL operates so many B757 and B767 is because it and NW took delivery of a very large quantity of late model aircraft, and DL remains committed to operating aircraft for their full, useful economic life. Not because there’s not an adequate replacement. Of cours...

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by WidebodyPTV
Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta still waiting for MoM
Replies: 49
Views: 6225

Re: Delta still waiting for MoM

Let’s not get caught into into PR, and stick to facts instead. With 184 B739/A321 scheduled for delivery by early 2027, DL is on pace to replace a substantial portion of its fleet of 116 B757/753. Additionally, it plans on phasing out its fleet of B763 by 2025, although it’s flexible depending upon ...

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by WidebodyPTV
Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA ending 27 routes
Replies: 110
Views: 23643

Re: AA ending 27 routes

This may turn out to be a smart move on AA’s part. According to an article this morning, New York Subway ridership in October was only at 48% of 2019. Trains seem full because there are fewer running. While many areas of the country are coming back to doing business as normal, some aren’t. I don't ...

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by WidebodyPTV
Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LAX Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 140
Views: 29695

Re: LAX Aviation Thread - 2021

LAX's econo-lot has been reopened for about a month now I'm referring to Lot E, the surface lot that opened in 2019; pre-COVID, it was $12/day. Apparently the new parking garage the opened last month is being marketed as the new economy lot; it was referenced in the previous response to my posting....

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by WidebodyPTV
Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LAX Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 140
Views: 29695

Re: LAX Aviation Thread - 2021

Is LAX (and/or SNA) ever going to open its economy parking lot up? Most lots with a shuttle are now charging around $30/day (peak days) with tax. A few weeks ago, the lowest rate I could get (at a secured parking facility) was rooftop parking at WallyPark for around $40/day with tax -- and the gara...

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by WidebodyPTV
Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LAX Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 140
Views: 29695

Re: LAX Aviation Thread - 2021

Is LAX (and/or SNA) ever going to open its economy parking lot up? Most lots with a shuttle are now charging around $30/day (peak days) with tax. A few weeks ago, the lowest rate I could get (at a secured parking facility) was rooftop parking at WallyPark for around $40/day with tax -- and the garag...

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by WidebodyPTV
Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:09 pm
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Website is over-moderated
Replies: 225
Views: 25783

Re: Website is over-moderated

The post that you quoted was deleted. And as a result, your post was as well. Thank you for the response! But the post I quoted (flyinryan99) is still active. It's concerning, because he's making assertions ('local traffic exceeded expectations') without providing any support -- and the hard data s...

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by WidebodyPTV
Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:46 pm
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Website is over-moderated
Replies: 225
Views: 25783

Re: Website is over-moderated

There's an active thread discussing AA's mass route cancellations, one of them being TOL-CLT. Can I get an explanation as to why my postings were deleted? A poster falsely claimed that the route's local traffic exceeded expectations, and that it was COVID / AA's decision to put a 50-seater and match...

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by WidebodyPTV
Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 851
Views: 109119

Re: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021

There's a loose coloration between population and air service; e.g. compare MEX vs. SIN historically. There are tons of factors -- for example, western airports generally draw larger amounts of local traffic due to their proximity away from population centers. Think of how many places you can reach ...

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by WidebodyPTV
Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1448
Views: 197645

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2021

Right when AA and UA are doubling down on LHR next summer by exceeding pre-COVID capacity, DL is handing over frequencies to VS. Interesting. Might be because VS has extra jets where DL cut their fleet through COVID and this regains some flexibility to be opportunistic should travel rebound as stro...

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by WidebodyPTV
Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 851
Views: 109119

Re: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021

Some rumors are out there that VS may be returning to DTW with a LHR-DTW flight next summer. While I would be a bit surprised to see VS metal return to DTW, I am less surprised about the DTW-LHR seat count increasing. We have discussed previously about the return of AMS, CDG, MUC, FRA, loss of DTW-...

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by WidebodyPTV
Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 851
Views: 109119

Re: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021

Looks like the 359 is returning to make a brief two-week cameo on DTW-LAX shortly, making three daily domestic departures (the other two to ATL) from DTW.

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by WidebodyPTV
Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1448
Views: 197645

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2021

Sitting on the DL LAX-BOS flight right now and people are boarding. The flight is 100% full, not one single open seat. Coming from BOS it was the same thing. I overheard the flight attendant saying this fight is a complete s***show and DL needs to either add a 5th daily flight, or upgauge the aircr...

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by WidebodyPTV
Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002
Replies: 99
Views: 13696

Re: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002

Good history. DL and TW both relocated from Concourse C in late 1994. We traveled on a DL MD-88 in late August that year, and ironically flew out of the same gate on an NW 72S shortly before Christmas. The move was clearly recently, as NW was using DL & TW's manual departure boards, with NW stic...

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by WidebodyPTV
Wed Nov 10, 2021 1:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 851
Views: 109119

Re: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021

As of Sunday, DL is operating a 339 on SEA-DTW-DTW, flying eastbound as a redeye and returning westbound in the morning. This is the first regularly scheduled 339 flight to/from DTW...

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by WidebodyPTV
Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002
Replies: 99
Views: 13696

Re: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002

The DTW terminal is wonderful, but it is a bit oversized for DL’s current operations. I know it was built to be NW’s primary hub, but DL was only running around 450 flights pre-covid IIRC. It would be nice if they flowed more connections over DTW going forward. A few years ago I noticed that they h...

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by WidebodyPTV
Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002
Replies: 99
Views: 13696

Re: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002

First DTW visit was 1998 I believe for the Auto Show in January of that year. Went up with 2 buddies from ATL and my impression of the terminal on that day matches what has been described here: typical 1960s-70s avoidance of any natural light in exchange for a cramped, dark, foreboding experience. ...

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by WidebodyPTV
Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002
Replies: 99
Views: 13696

Re: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002

How many flights did they anticipate flying out of the terminal when it first opened? I sure they projected perpetual growth, but the largest concern was about having enough gates to satisfy each bank of departures / not having to tow aircraft between banks. In the mid-2000s, nearly every single ga...

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by WidebodyPTV
Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002
Replies: 99
Views: 13696

Re: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002

No, the Midfield Terminal as originally built cost $1.2B; in 1996 it was initially budgeted around $786M, but that didn’t include the hotel. The $1.2B included the terminal facilities, new parking garages and fourth runway — which was almost half of the budget (they had to acquire the land, then bui...

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by WidebodyPTV
Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:11 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 8 dead and many injured at the Astroworld Festival in Houston
Replies: 42
Views: 2215

Re: At least 8 dead and many injured at the Astroworld Festival in Houston

Travis Scott is pretty unique - he has a HUGE following, but most of his fans are super young… and at his shows, almost exclusively white.

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by WidebodyPTV
Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:43 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: NFL player DWI kills woman and Dog.
Replies: 56
Views: 2684

Re: NFL player DWI kills woman and Dog.

You need a passport to go to Mexico. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/need-passport/us-mexicoborder.html To remain within the 20mi border zone, Mexico still requires an ID to enter. If your passport is not valid as mandated by court order, they will know and you will be detained...

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by WidebodyPTV
Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002
Replies: 99
Views: 13696

Re: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002

My earlier point is largely that Wayne County / DTW were so desperate for a new airport, they intentionally neglected the Davey Terminal. Let’s be clear: the LC Smith Terminal was an obsoleted facility, built for the pre-jet era and heavily modified / expanded to remain functional. In the mid-2010s ...

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by WidebodyPTV
Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002
Replies: 99
Views: 13696

Re: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002

DTW McNamara is a fine terminal today compared to the dumpster fire the old terminals were. I always liked the Northwest WorldGateway branding. From a clean-sheet modeled after the success of DEN types, which wasn't a bad thing. Today it still is in the upper echelon of US airports, not to mention ...

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by WidebodyPTV
Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:00 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 8 dead and many injured at the Astroworld Festival in Houston
Replies: 42
Views: 2215

Re: At least 8 dead and many injured at the Astroworld Festival in Houston

It may have been murder - there are confirmed reports that somebody was randomly “stabbing” concertgoers with a drug needle. At least one person was caught on video foaming at the mouth before collapsing.

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by WidebodyPTV
Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002
Replies: 99
Views: 13696

Re: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002

Although people criticize the old DTW terminals, for the first 15+ years after the Davey terminal opened in 1966, DTW actually had too many gates, not too few. The July, 1977 OAG shows 248 daily departures at DTW. DTW had 57 gates in 1977 (7 on the A Concourse, 10 each on the B and C, 7 on the D, 1...

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by WidebodyPTV
Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002
Replies: 99
Views: 13696

Re: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002

The old terminal was so old and dingy. I remember being a child and thinking what a dump it was. The only design flaw was the B concourse. It seems like it was designed solely for the Saab. The gate areas were standing room only if a CRJ-200 was flying out of it. It was nice boarding the Saab via a...

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by WidebodyPTV
Thu Nov 04, 2021 9:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002
Replies: 99
Views: 13696

Re: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002

Northwest's DTW WorldGateway is the best connecting single terminal facility in the USA in my opinion. This project was started before 9/11 but was finished after. Was this NW's premier gateway to Asia/Europe done with $1.2 billion to better compete against other connecting airports which required ...

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by WidebodyPTV
Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1448
Views: 197645

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2021

gdavis003 wrote:
Has Delta already adjusted January schedules? I just booked a trip for January and am curious if that will remain as is


They've been tweaking their schedules up to 4-6 weeks out, so probably not completely. But long-haul is pretty much set well in advance...

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by WidebodyPTV
Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002
Replies: 99
Views: 13696

Re: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002

In the second half of the 20th century, Metro Detroit was one of the largest markets in the country, but DTW was underserved and heavily congested. This is because post-WW2, Metro Detroit's commercial air service was split between YIP and DTW, and both airports were vying to become the primary airpo...

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by WidebodyPTV
Thu Nov 04, 2021 6:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1448
Views: 197645

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2021

Historically, DL's splashy summer long-haul route announcements come in early October, before the revised long-haul schedule is loaded into the system. DL already loaded the revised long-haul schedule into the system... maybe we'll see some adds later on, but I'd expect that DL getting back on its f...

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by WidebodyPTV
Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 851
Views: 109119

Re: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021

I'm surprised nobody posted this but last week Ed Bastian was the guest speaker at the Detroit Economic Club. He claimed that this past summer, DTW was at about 80% of its pre-COVID schedule and he expects it to be at 90% to 95% next summer. https://www.freep.com/story/money/business/2021/10/29/delt...

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by WidebodyPTV
Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkish Airlines to start Seattle and Detroit
Replies: 126
Views: 14810

Re: Turkish Airlines to start Seattle and Detroit

Only for passengers who value their time so little they are willing to overfly their destinations by hours. Not necessarily - it depends on where those passengers are traveling to/from. No doubt TK will pick-up a significant amount of traffic to India, much of which is extremely price sensitive and...

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by WidebodyPTV
Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1448
Views: 197645

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2021

These "premium leisure" oriented markets that are being flown out of East Coast gateways like JFK, EWR, BOS are using domestic configured narrowbodies because they work for the market. There is not the premium demand, a lot of which was paid for by corporate travel in these leisure-orient...

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by WidebodyPTV
Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1448
Views: 197645

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2021

Pre-covid DTW-AMS was 4 in the summer and 3 in the winter Pre-covid, I believe ATL, JFK, MSP and DTW all were 4 daily (combination of DL and KL). I think at one time DTW-AMS may have even reached 5 daily (I could be imagining things). Jeremy DTW-AMS wasn't 5x daily anytime recently, but JFK-AMS did...

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by WidebodyPTV
Tue Nov 02, 2021 6:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1448
Views: 197645

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2021

For the past decade (2020 is an obvious exception), by October DL has loaded its planned long-haul schedule for the following summer. There's generally minimal changes -- some equipment changes, few frequency adjustments / drops and few adds (generally a competitive response). Last month, as expecte...

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by WidebodyPTV
Mon Nov 01, 2021 10:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1448
Views: 197645

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2021

alohaislandair wrote:
AVLAirlineFreq wrote:
Given the timing, if it actually occurs I can't imagine this being anything other than a transatlantic service announcement.

I agree. I would bet that ATL, JFK, SLC, and SEA will be part of the announcements.


DL isn't adding long-haul transatlantic services to SLC or SEA...

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by WidebodyPTV
Mon Nov 01, 2021 6:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 851
Views: 109119

Re: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021

As they should! Decaying market. Simple. DTW still has more domestic O&D than: PHL SFO SAN SLC BWI BNA RSW CLT MDW PDX AUS LGA Im glad to learn this info. Some of these are really surprising: SFO, BNA, MDW especially! Thank you. You think it's surprising that DTW has more local traffic than BNA...

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by WidebodyPTV
Mon Nov 01, 2021 6:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: USAir 737-300/400 IFE Installations
Replies: 37
Views: 4802

Re: USAir 737-300/400 IFE Installations

I flew a US 734 PIT-LAX in May 1998 with the CRTs. The movie was "As Good As It Gets". I remember flying a 737 with the seat back games PVD-CLT in 1995. You most likely traveled on a 733. In May 1998, nearly all of US' flights to/from LAX were operated with the 757, sans a pair of flights...

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by WidebodyPTV
Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: USAir 737-300/400 IFE Installations
Replies: 37
Views: 4802

Re: USAir 737-300/400 IFE Installations

Going off memory US may have also had the same aisle CRTs on the 757s too, but I could be conflating them with another airline. NW had CRT monitors on some 757s of that era. UA, AA, DL and NW’s 757s had CRT monitors during the 1980s and 1990s (only NW’s 2000 deliveries did not, at which point they ...

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by WidebodyPTV
Sun Oct 31, 2021 8:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: USAir 737-300/400 IFE Installations
Replies: 37
Views: 4802

Re: USAir 737-300/400 IFE Installations

IIRC, only the subfleet of 733 “LR” and 734 delivered to PI (including some delivered directly to US immediately following the merger) were equipped with the overhead TV monitors. The 734 lacked range and weren’t regularly used on longer flights. Here’s a 734 with the TVs: 0404014 If you search, I’m...

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by WidebodyPTV
Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SLC to Europe 2022
Replies: 9
Views: 2503

Re: SLC to Europe 2022

I haven't heard of any rumors regarding VS to SLC, and I'd chalk this up to wishful thinking: VS' smallest aircraft has 30+ more seats (many of them in Premium Economy) than the equipment DL is using from MSP & DTW. Pretty sad Delta couldn’t make LHR work from one of its four mid-continent conne...

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by WidebodyPTV
Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 851
Views: 109119

Re: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021

The I4 corridor between TPA and MCO is strong too. A lot of the people who fly to MCO, TPA, or RSW are visiting friends or family generally staying at their homes that's why not a lot of SE Michiganders stay onsite at theme parks or beaches. Yep....tons of snowbirds, retirees, vacation homeowners, ...

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by WidebodyPTV
Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 851
Views: 109119

Re: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021

Sorry if I mistakenly forgot to mention WN was pricing themselves above DL with daily flights in July. At the lower end, I would hope so -- WN includes two checked bags per person, a $70 value (vs. DL) each way. While on a.net, having the ability to watch Downton Abbey on a PTV is worth a premium t...

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by WidebodyPTV
Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 851
Views: 109119

Re: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021

With NK regularly selling Florida for $29 each way for travel through the end of the year (excluding Holiday periods, of course), I'm not surprised that WN opted not to compete. Even NK has dropped flights. DTW-MCO is virtually an infinite market, so WN flying a daily flight isn't going to hinder a...

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by WidebodyPTV
Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1448
Views: 197645

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2021

[*] It's been rummored on the LGB thread as a possibility. Take that with grain of salt, though... It's not a rumor, just wild speculation from a poster who is known to package such as "rumors." DL simply isn't going to operate LGB-PDX in this generation. I wouldn't put it past them. DL b...

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by WidebodyPTV
Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 851
Views: 109119

Re: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021

With NK regularly selling Florida for $29 each way for travel through the end of the year (excluding Holiday periods, of course), I'm not surprised that WN opted not to compete. Even NK has dropped flights.

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by WidebodyPTV
Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1448
Views: 197645

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2021

If Delta has LGB slots, some should be used for the unserved LGB-PDX and LGB-SEA routes that were lost when JetBlue pulled out. Southwest is uninterested and Alaska does not serve LGB. DL isn't going to operate LGB-PDX... It's been rummored on the LGB thread as a possibility. Take that with grain o...

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