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by PepeTheFrog
Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing 2021 orders
Replies: 82
Views: 15516

Re: Airbus and Boeing 2021 orders

Because the 777X is delayed, moving the 787 order to the 777X backlog allows the airline to postpone pre-delivery payments on the 787 order and save cash. At least for now.

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by PepeTheFrog
Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates first Boeing 777X pushed back to 2023
Replies: 107
Views: 21924

Re: Emirates first Boeing 777X pushed back to 2023

Further delays loom as Emirates believes first delivery won't happen before Q1 2024: Emirates Airlines President Tim Clark said on Wednesday Boeing’s 777x jet was unlikely to be delivered before the first quarter of 2024. Boeing has been developing the widebody jet, a new version of its 777 series, ...

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by PepeTheFrog
Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1694
Views: 171644

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

I was surprised to see that Boeing is still focused on the MAX 10. In fact, some of the additional work required for certification, will see itself trickled down to the 7,8,9 models. https://www.flightglobal.com/safety/boeing-737-10-processes-to-undergo-revision-after-easas-max-scrutiny/142149.arti...

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by PepeTheFrog
Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane
Replies: 1694
Views: 171644

Re: Boeing CEO's Comments On Their Next Airplane

I was surprised to see that Boeing is still focused on the MAX 10. In fact, some of the additional work required for certification, will see itself trickled down to the 7,8,9 models. https://www.flightglobal.com/safety/boeing-737-10-processes-to-undergo-revision-after-easas-max-scrutiny/142149.arti...

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by PepeTheFrog
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Posts $8.4 Billion 4Q Loss ($11.9 billion full year loss), Delays 777X to 2023
Replies: 128
Views: 16658

Re: Boeing Posts $8.4 Billion 4Q Loss ($11.9 billion full year loss), Delays 777X to 2023

Since you're a stickler for correctness, I'll suggest that I think "at risk" is a better description than "realistic". The customers can now cancel due to Boeing's tardiness, but we have not heard what their plans are. I think it's realistic that some of these at-risk orders are...

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by PepeTheFrog
Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2021
Replies: 294
Views: 56785

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2021

1500 aircraft is the size of the market over a period of 20 years, including other aircraft in the same category. Even Boeing knows it won't have the entire market for itself.

For now, the accounting block is 350 aircraft and who knows if they will produce more than that.

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by PepeTheFrog
Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2021
Replies: 294
Views: 56785

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2021

Boeing also trims its production forecast: Boeing has reduced the number of 777X it expects to produce over the life of that aircraft programme from 400 to 350 aircraft – a 12.5% cut. The company made the adjustment to the number of units within its 777X “programme accounting” method, says Boeing ch...

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by PepeTheFrog
Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2021
Replies: 294
Views: 56785

Re: Boeing delays first 777-9 delivery to 2023, takes $6.5bn charge

Late 2023 means 2024 I guess.

Some 10 years after formal launch :o

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by PepeTheFrog
Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing to close Seattle R&D center
Replies: 105
Views: 12213

Boeing to close Seattle R&D center

Seattle Times reports that Boeing will close its Seattle manufacturing R&D center: Boeing to close its storied Seattle manufacturing R&D center Scott Hamilton calls it "the exodus is underway" as Boeing moves away from WA. 787 Everett line closing. @Boeing slips to WA No. 2 employe...

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by PepeTheFrog
Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1835
Views: 367775

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

We are just getting up to 700hrs. With 311 flights! Nice progress but still a long way to go! Thank you. Where did you find the flight hours? How many flight test hours is the 777x scheduled for? I couldn't find the link. LIghtsaber Some 2,000 hours would be normal for a program like the 777X. Stil...

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by PepeTheFrog
Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific News and Discussion thread - 2020
Replies: 529
Views: 135183

Re: Cathay delays 777-9 deliveries beyond 2025

Cathay Pacific has given an indication of the timeline surrounding deferrals of its Boeing 777-9 aircraft, confirming that the widebodies will only be delivered “beyond 2025”. https://www.flightglobal.com/fleets/cathay-confirms-777-9-deliveries-delayed-to-beyond-2025/140719.article One might wonder...

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by PepeTheFrog
Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Mitsubishi to freeze SpaceJet program
Replies: 3
Views: 957

Mitsubishi to freeze SpaceJet program

Sounds like the SpaceJet might never get certified. Mitsubishi Heavy to freeze development of SpaceJet regional jet Mitsubishi Heavy Industries will freeze development of its SpaceJet regional jet as the COVID-19 pandemic squeezes finances and erodes prospects for Japan's first passenger aircraft in...

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by PepeTheFrog
Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific News and Discussion thread - 2020
Replies: 529
Views: 135183

Cathay delays 777-9 deliveries beyond 2025

Cathay Pacific has given an indication of the timeline surrounding deferrals of its Boeing 777-9 aircraft, confirming that the widebodies will only be delivered “beyond 2025”. https://www.flightglobal.com/fleets/cathay-confirms-777-9-deliveries-delayed-to-beyond-2025/140719.article One might wonder ...

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by PepeTheFrog
Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 56123

Re: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina

USAirKid wrote:

Washington state has taken care of Boeing in the past and in the future. What else does Boeing want? The blood of the legislature and governor?


A state without unions.

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by PepeTheFrog
Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 56123

Re: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina

And Leeham is spot on again: https://leehamnews.com/2020/10/01/retrospective-4-11-1-09-787-line-2-post-mortem/ Washington politicians and interested parties, The Seattle Times and even a South Carolina official, characterized Everett’s loss as a “wake-up call.” We find this laughable. Boeing’s move ...

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by PepeTheFrog
Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 56123

Re: Boeing Considers Closing 787 Production in WA

https://twitter.com/BoeingAirplanes/sta ... 2500379654

... which is corporate double speak nonsense.


And the 747 line will close in 2022.
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Revelation wrote:
Yet they also say:

This does not change our commitment to Puget Sound, where the 737, 747, 767, 777 & more are assembled.

Ref: https://twitter.com/BoeingAirplanes/sta ... 2500379654

... which is corporate double speak nonsense.


And the 747 line will close in 2022.

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by PepeTheFrog
Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 56123

Re: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina

Noshow wrote:
They need new programs for Everett soon.


Don't think that will happen. Boeing HQ doesn't like unions and would rather buy more ground in South Carolina than setting up a new production line in Seattle.

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by PepeTheFrog
Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production
Replies: 177
Views: 29768

Re: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production

Actually not, as per a link I gave earlier, Airbus announced it dropped A350 to rate 5 via its Q2 financial statement. In other words, they made big adjustments. You seem to not recognize that "The A350 is at rate 6, the same rate as the 787" is a false statement. You seem to not recogniz...

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by PepeTheFrog
Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production
Replies: 177
Views: 29768

Re: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production

The thing people can't seem to explain is why most 777X customers already were A350 customers yet ordered 777X. Because the 779 is a larger aircraft. It is so obvious. 779 and A35K are not really competitors. They differ in size just like the 787 to the A350. While there is some overlap, both aircr...

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by PepeTheFrog
Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production
Replies: 177
Views: 29768

Re: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production

Gut feel: Boeing is clearing space within the Everett facility in order the prepare for the Next Big Thing. Wayne Gretzky famously said "skate to where the puck is going to be, not to where it has been." I agree... What we will be seeing is this: 777X is Y3.. Period. No older 777, no 747....

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by PepeTheFrog
Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production
Replies: 177
Views: 29768

Re: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production

It's pretty obvious that Team A is going to have to make some big adjustments as well. Airbus made already big adjustments. The A350 is at rate 6, the same rate as the 787. Actually not, as per a link I gave earlier, Airbus announced it dropped A350 to rate 5 via its Q2 financial statement. In othe...

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by PepeTheFrog
Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production
Replies: 177
Views: 29768

Re: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production

It's pretty obvious that Team A is going to have to make some big adjustments as well. Airbus made already big adjustments. The A350 is at rate 6, the same rate as the 787. The A330 is at rate 1, below the 767. A380 production has basically ended. As for narrowbody production, it is difficult to co...

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by PepeTheFrog
Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Network & Fleet discussion 2020
Replies: 1753
Views: 50269

Re: Emirates: 777X further delayed until 2022, considering to convert more orders to 787

I agree. 77X is right about where its business plan suggested it should be. 309 orders before EIS from blue chip customers around the world, many of whom are A350 customers, some of whom are A350-1000 customers. It found as good a degree of acceptance as I think could have been expected. Hmm, 309 o...

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by PepeTheFrog
Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production
Replies: 177
Views: 29768

Re: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production

A year from now air travel will likely be booming again and orders and deliveries will be increasing. I wouldn't think so. Boeing, and Airbus too, believe recovery will take many years. Boeing also explained that production rates run behind demand due to long lead times. So when air travel starts b...

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by PepeTheFrog
Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production
Replies: 177
Views: 29768

Re: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production

Prost wrote:
Boeing will now whipsaw Washington and South Carolina for the best ‘deal’.


I'm not so sure. Let's not forget that Charleston is the only location where Boeing can assemble the 787-10.

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by PepeTheFrog
Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production
Replies: 177
Views: 29768

Re: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production

Ishrion wrote:
- Boeing studies consolidating 787 production to one location (Everett/Charleston).


A few months ago I started a thread based on this subject:

Boeing's twin 787 assembly lines at risk

The thread was closed because people believed it was fake news.

So here we are.

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by PepeTheFrog
Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Network & Fleet discussion 2020
Replies: 1753
Views: 50269

Re: Emirates: 777X further delayed until 2022, considering to convert more orders to 787

The 777X is a niche aircraft, only a little more capable than the larger 787/350s. It likely will have a long but not spectacular sales history. It is not and was not intended to be a game changer in the current sales distribution. The previous 777W turned out to be, and succeeded, the 380 intended...

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by PepeTheFrog
Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Network & Fleet discussion 2020
Replies: 1753
Views: 50269

Re: Emirates: 777X further delayed until 2022, considering to convert more orders to 787

The 777X is a niche aircraft, only a little more capable than the larger 787/350s. It likely will have a long but not spectacular sales history. It is not and was not intended to be a game changer in the current sales distribution. The previous 777W turned out to be, and succeeded, the 380 intended...

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by PepeTheFrog
Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020
Replies: 716
Views: 117093

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020

Trust in the MAX is temporary at best until there is another incident, even if just a runway excursion with no fatalities. The a/c was initially designed in the 19060's and it makes no difference how advanced the wings, engines or electronics are, folks will still say it is not FBW and that will be...

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by PepeTheFrog
Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing 2020 Orders
Replies: 359
Views: 87942

Re: Airbus and Boeing 2020 Orders

IMO the MAX 40% vs NEO 60% balance is gone forever. I think the NEO will command 70% of the market until replacements are launched. Time will tell. Then it's an incentive for Boeing to launch a 737RS with all the technology advances available and "leap-frog" the A320 as the A320 "lea...

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by PepeTheFrog
Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing 2020 Orders
Replies: 359
Views: 87942

Re: Airbus and Boeing 2020 Orders

Canceling MAX orders will become more difficult once the aircraft is re-certified and Boeing can restart deliveries. That means we might see many more cancellations between now and mid-September, unless customers opt for deferral.

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by PepeTheFrog
Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Network & Fleet discussion 2020
Replies: 1753
Views: 50269

Re: Rumour: Emirates to decommission 40% of A380 fleet

This article, posted just a few hours ago, goes quite contrary to the sentiment in this thread. Even 60 to 70% is 70 to 80 aircraft flying again by December. This thread is based on rumors, nothing more. It's clear Emirates is working hard on returning the A380's to service. True, but we also Emira...

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by PepeTheFrog
Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Network & Fleet discussion 2020
Replies: 1753
Views: 50269

Re: Emirates: 777X further delayed until 2022, convert more orders to 787

Opus99 wrote:
chiad wrote:
When was the initial planned EIS

April 2021


April 2021 was already the revised schedule, the original EIS was planned for June/July 2020.

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by PepeTheFrog
Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Network & Fleet discussion 2020
Replies: 1753
Views: 50269

Re: Rumour: Emirates to decommission 40% of A380 fleet

Airlinerdude wrote:
This article, posted just a few hours ago, goes quite contrary to the sentiment in this thread. Even 60 to 70% is 70 to 80 aircraft flying again by December.


This thread is based on rumors, nothing more. It's clear Emirates is working hard on returning the A380's to service.

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by PepeTheFrog
Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1835
Views: 367775

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Boeing does say they are happy with the pace at which they’re going and they are also happy with with aircraft. Frankly I wouldn't expect Boeing to say something else. The pace is still slow though, I'm guessing the fleet has to perform more than 2000 flying hours and as to date only 10% is complet...

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by PepeTheFrog
Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Network & Fleet discussion 2020
Replies: 1753
Views: 50269

Re: Emirates: 777X further delayed until 2022, convert more orders to 787

Opus99 wrote:
There's definitely no need for anyone to take it on before 2022


Unless traffic recovery happens faster than predicted.

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by PepeTheFrog
Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Network & Fleet discussion 2020
Replies: 1753
Views: 50269

Emirates: 777X further delayed until 2022, considering to convert more orders to 787

Emirates believes the 777X will slip further and deliveries won't happen before 2022. Boeing’s new 777X jet is likely to miss its planned debut next year, according to the aircraft’s top customer Emirates, which doesn’t expect to receive any planes before 2022. Deliveries of the wide-body jet, which...

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by PepeTheFrog
Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did people really fly all the way on flights like this?
Replies: 119
Views: 30241

Re: Did people really fly all the way on flights like this?

For example.... I am looking at an OAG from 1980 and I am seeing a 5-stop Swissair flight from Geneva to Tokyo with en route stops in Zurich, Athens, Bombay, Bangkok and Hong Kong. Total travel time was over 26 hours. I went to Australia recently, total travel time was some 24 hours. So yes people ...

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by PepeTheFrog
Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How many aircraft waiting for delivery at Boeing, Airbus, and Embraer?
Replies: 31
Views: 10682

Re: How many aircraft waiting for delivery at Boeing, Airbus, and Embraer?

Boeing delivered 0 787s in May. With the production rate still being high, there must be an inventory of some 20 787s. If not more.

And then there are the NTU aircraft.

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by PepeTheFrog
Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 567
Views: 212073

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Interesting to see the Aeroflot being painted before the engines are installed and the SQ A350 having the engines installed before being painted. Any reason why is so the case? Is it upto the Airline to choose how the process occurs? The SQ A350 will be painted in XFW instead of TLS. So it needs th...

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by PepeTheFrog
Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020
Replies: 716
Views: 117093

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020

lightsaber wrote:
It will be a fast pace to deliver. r


Unless more cancellations follow. Boeing will have several NTU aircraft that will have to be reworked if they find another customer.

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by PepeTheFrog
Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747
Replies: 378
Views: 60376

Re: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747

wjcandee wrote:
It's not over yet. But it's not looking good.


Not over yet? Triumph Group is not making the fuselage panels anymore, so the writing is on the wall. Once Boeing worked through the spares, the assembly line will be depleted.

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by PepeTheFrog
Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747
Replies: 378
Views: 60376

Re: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747

It's look like that the decision has been made. The last 747 will be rolled out of the factory in about two years. The end of the 747 is there. ;-( https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-02/boeing-quietly-pulls-plug-on-the-747-closing-era-of-jumbo-jets?sref=CMQY7IGK It was bound to happen....

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by PepeTheFrog
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian News and Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1064
Views: 177328

Re: Norwegian Air Cancels Orders For 92 737 MAXs and 5 787s

So why did they not cancel the A321LR order? Err... Maybe because the 321 is not grounded or crashed due to the errors of the manufacturer Norwegian is hit by the Corona virus, so they canceled the MAX order because traffic demand has collapsed. That means there is also no place for the A321. This ...

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by PepeTheFrog
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020
Replies: 716
Views: 117093

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020

Even after the certification flights, a lot of works still needs to be done. Certification may follow as early as mid-September. The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and Boeing on Wednesday completed the required re-certification flight tests on the 737 MAX, taking the plane a step closer to FA...

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by PepeTheFrog
Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France KLM News and Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 618
Views: 101418

Re: Air France KLM - Master Thread

AF officially retired the A380 but will they compensate the fleet with new arrivals (787, 350...)? If not then they could end up having a lot of extra crew. If you read the thread you will note they are freezing deliveries and they will be reducing staff numbers. Details on staff cuts are due July ...

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by PepeTheFrog
Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian News and Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1064
Views: 177328

Re: Norwegian Air Cancels Orders For 92 737 MAXs and 5 787s

Perfectly right but: 1st - It would be potentially a decision taken by Airbus at a time of their choice. Not Norwegian; 2nd - When the Skymark debacle happened, they did have a client for their product (A380) to shove down their throats. I believe that, with the actual scenario, this may be unlikel...

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by PepeTheFrog
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CN3 order 105 ARJ21s from COMAC
Replies: 102
Views: 22902

Re: CN3 order 105 ARJ21s from COMAC

lightsaber wrote:
There will be ARJ-21 exports. I hope GE sells each engine at a profit as I do not expect durable enough airframes to last long enough for overhauls.


Without FAA certification this aircraft won't go far.

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by PepeTheFrog
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing 2020 Orders
Replies: 359
Views: 87942

Re: Airbus and Boeing 2020 Orders

chiad wrote:
I beleive we'll see some 1000, or more, B737 MAX' cancelled or converted to others models during 2020.


Well, I think you might be right. We are 6 months into 2020 and the MAX is already at 700 cancellations or so.

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by PepeTheFrog
Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CN3 order 105 ARJ21s from COMAC
Replies: 102
Views: 22902

Re: CN3 order 105 ARJ21s from COMAC

eamondzhang wrote:
My source told me that they took the planes for now because of the pressure from National Development and Reform Commission.

Michael


So the big 3 are stuck with an aircraft they don't really want.

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