BEEF is the unit call sign for C-17s assigned to the 6th Airlift Squadron out of McGuire, the “Bully Beef Express”. ‘GUCCI’ is the static call sign for the 9th ARS out of Travis AFB. Definitely my favorite. The flight history would look odd to anyone not familiar with how C-17 locals often work but ...Jump to post
I’m imagining diverting to Perth or Diego Garcia. Maybe Mauritius or the Seychelles. Definitely preferable to a night on the boat.Jump to post
An APU was looked at for the D model initially. Space was not an issue as it would have gone in the place of fuel cell number 8. In the end it was a budget issue No worries. I was really talking about the A model, and who knows, maybe the powers at be thought in the 60s/70s thought more about the g...Jump to post
Thanks, some interesting info and appreciate your perspective. Will be interesting to see how this whole process goes moving forward, my guess would be the community had been pretty static until the KC-46 arrived and so a lot of change to deal with especially as the KC-10 leaves the fleet. Perhaps ...Jump to post
This is a cultural issue that has pervaded the entire Boeing product line. To this I will agree. However it is not one monolithic "cultural" issue within Boeing. The old legacy Boeing had a large cultural center in Washington State. But there were some difference s with Wichita and Philly...Jump to post
Galaxy is spot-on as usual. As an add-on it’s also possible they may have nixed an APU because of weight or space, in the Tomcat. Remember the F-14 was already very heavy, and adding a luxury item APU/JFS would add not only weight but also $ to a program already over-budget and suffering due to ramp...Jump to post
texl1649 wrote:SUU-Travis AFB. Not sure why it would be sent there.
It’s a mixed bag, but it’s important to mention a few points first. McGuire’s 10s will be the first to retire in the next few years, and their FTU will shut down here shortly. As their squadrons convert to the 46 the FEs and booms unable to crossflow (due to retainability or vision) will head to Tra...Jump to post
Sad to see a once great company that built reliable and respected products flush itself down the toilet like this. The early B-787 problems turned out to be a prelude of things to come. Not surprised Boeing has suffered with the same management philosophy that ruined McD and GE as engineering compa...Jump to post
... Hopefully the USAF doesn't retire the 6 most problematic aircraft and Omega can actually get things going quickly. Hope is a good thing, Oz, but resignation can be a better thing in some cases... The hangar queens will go first. 433 and 1947 should be the first jets heading to a sunny retiremen...Jump to post
889091 wrote:Tried looking it up on the net, but couldn't find anything conclusive.
Boeing should have boasted about its tanker experience with the KB-29, KB-50, KC-97, and KC-135. It should have boasted about its experience (through MD) with the KC-10. In fact, until the many times delayed A-330-MRTT came along, no body had any real experience with tankers, not even the Russians....Jump to post
Thanks LyleLanley ! :bigthumbsup: No worries! I see your point with the A-400, but there are some important differences. Airbus didn't brag about their decades of tactical airlift experience. Nor did Airbus claim to be the 'low-risk' manufacturer with a proven airframe and decades of experience beh...Jump to post
Just to understand, do you mean "not to use in operations" doesn't prohibit training over US soil ? I know it was debatted months ago but now I can't find the discussion. The pilot can stay current doing cargo missions but isn't it a bit pointless to train boom operators for missions they...Jump to post
The aircraft are being used, just not on operations so no overseas deployments, but the KC-46 is refuelling some types of aircraft over CONUS probably every day. Bingo. Cargo and medevac flights are open, just not coronets/dual roles. Basically, on flights where the KC-46 would require a legacy tan...Jump to post
Not to be pedantic, but the KC-135 received thrust reversers when they were reengined from A to E... Nothing wrong with being pedantic, but go back and read my thread. I specifically talked about the R model. I know. But when you bring forth examples of reengined aircraft and specifically reference...Jump to post
Not to be pedantic, but the KC-135 received thrust reversers when they were reengined from A to E.
The B-52 is, of course, a far different beast. TRs just aren’t worth the hassle to put on now.
IMHO the KC-135 is way more survivable than a twin engined plane. I know a pax B767 can successfully fly for a decent amount of time with only one engine, but imagine having to abort a bombing mission because of one tanker having an engine failure. Or worse, having a group of planes suffering from ...Jump to post
I’d love to refute Oz, but he’s pretty spot-on. The KC-135’s strength is its numbers, and the KC-10’s strength is offload and capability (UARRSI, boom, and drogue on every flight). Private industry can capitalize on her strengths as the KC-46 brings its flexibility into the tanker world mainstream. ...Jump to post
I’m sorry to hear, PB. It’s never easy, but I hope she was happy doing what she did and blessed those whom she surrounded herself with.Jump to post
C-5 conversion to the M model was full blown conversion, like it was a new plane. BTW I hate the Air Force’s PR stunt with that. They should be C-5Ds! (And yes I know there never truly was a C model). But then they named the new bomber after the “21st century”?! Spare me. :) Don't forget the KC-10/...Jump to post
To elaborate a bit on GF's answer, a minimum-hour commercial pilot hire at your outfit probably has, what, 1500 hours? In an AF squadron they would be called 'experienced'. An experienced pilot has enough airmanship, muscle memory, and comfort whilst flying to be able to swap between different boxes...Jump to post
C-5 conversion to the M model was full blown conversion, like it was a new plane. Thank you for proving my point. With the engine, wing, and fuselage changes necessary to accommodate a much heavier, much wider diameter engine, this re-engined KC-46 would also be a different plane to the AF. Talking...Jump to post
If Boeing re-engines the 767-400ER with the same GEnX-2B used on the 747-8 for domestic freighters, the same aircraft would make an excellent replacement for the KC-10. This would keep lots of commonality with the KC-46 and a the same pilot rating No, it wouldn’t. The initial offload capability isn...Jump to post
Bird strike So, after a birdstrike, you just proceed with the airshow (fly-over), without knowing the possible damage. SOP would be : return to base for inspection (safety first !) Yeah, sorry about that. I should've read the topic more. The bird strike was in Las Vegas and the jet returned to Nell...Jump to post
UA857 wrote:So Omega Air operates military charter flights?
Passenger flights as in scheduled? No. Passenger flights as in chartered ops? Yes. For instance, if Omega Air is contracted by VFA-XX to take Super Hornets from Oceana to Fallon for Airwing work-ups, they can drag the fighters whilst simultaneously carrying squadron mx personnel and some of the equi...Jump to post
I'd always thought the USN had a long standing tradition of ordering twin engined jets for carrier ops, no? The last carrier based, single engined bird in service with the USN that I can think of is the A4. The A-7 as well. The Navy once operated many types of single engine aircraft at the boat. Th...Jump to post
A 267t KC-10 would be pretty light, as MTOW is 295t, but coronet operations just don't work the way you mention. Not only would fighters NEVER go direct US to Australia (where your efficiencies mostly lay) but it also assumes the aircraft flies at its most efficient altitudes, and most coronets are...Jump to post
The USAF will just buy more KC-46. Bingo. The AF hates re-engining aircraft for good reason. It bespoken operations in a way the AF hates. The two examples are the KC-135 (E and R) and the C-5. The KC-135's anemic engines killed more than a few crews, severely limited its fuel offload, limited the ...Jump to post
The thing you are forgetting is the military must or should plan for the worst-case scenario. Right now, that would be having a conflict in the Pacific where basing presents problems in offload with the tanker. PGUA is nothing more than a stationary target for a MRBM. So, the USAF is now looking at...Jump to post
My guess is British, perhaps Viscount as they were fond of those hideous block switches. Judging by some of the details (2 generators, 2 engines under 'engine start', etc.) it's a twin-engine. It's also young enough to have pressurization (extreme right), so definitely not 1919 :) . It looks like a ...Jump to post
F-35s can be equipped for both boom as well as probe & drogue refueling, right? DIdn't Canada want that? Can that be retrofitted? Could the F-22 be so equipped? Bombers don't need stealth tankers as their range is respectable enough, so the true "need" for a boom is greatly diminished,...Jump to post
I'm probably wrong, but I think the IFF 'pizza box' on top of the nose is the difference. My google-fu is weak right now, but it's a raised square in front of the canopy versus a set of five aerial antennas on the previous version. Don't worry about asking questions: knowledge doesn't come from stay...Jump to post
Excellent. Thank you for the reply! No problem. The article Texl1649 posted is pretty spot-on, except for the cargo part. While the KC-10's cargo capes are there and substantial, they're rarely used nowadays and bringing up the 'we can BYOB' argument weakens the rest of their otherwise well-thought...Jump to post
... What role, other than capacity, does the KC-10 perform that the KC-46 cannot? ... Dual role: carrying cargo and personnel from a fighter squadron whilst dragging their fighters to wherever. Capacity is also very, very important in certain missions and theaters. Gas in the air vs. booms in the a...Jump to post
Country had mass shooting. Country decides that it's not very nice and so takes a measure to lower the likelihood of such an unpleasant event happening. Other country has many shootings nearly every day. Other country decides that nothing can be done, so nothing is done, so many shootings still hap...Jump to post
They couldn't do that in the US, as there are bears, moose, and coyotes which you need an assault rifle to defend against. Further, without assault rifles I doubt Canada could resist a move by the British monarchy to make Canadians her subjects, owing allegiance to the crown into perpetuity. This is...Jump to post
The f11 seems like a bit of a hot rod. Looks like it put on a great show. Unfortunately they've had the f18s for most of my life, so great shows, but missed out on the variety. Hard to believe they used to change aircraft every few years, and now it's been the Hornets for more than 3 decades n It's...Jump to post
Just repeating what I’ve read! Matter of fact I think I read that bit on this very forum... At any rate, phenomenal video. The formation landing was something else! No worries. We’ve all been there, so no offense intended. Here’s another Tiger vid, circa 1966. At 7:30 there’s a pretty phenomenal sh...Jump to post
But I've also seen and heard stories about... how they dropped them while flying the F-4s to differentiate themselves from the Thunderbirds who were also flying the f-4. Thats bs. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NjnV3k6J4Nw Scroll to 5:15: notice no O2 masks and no g-suit on when they dismount? Anyon...Jump to post
Any reason why the Angels' pilots don't seem to don their masks whereas the Thunderbirds do? Cockpit view Blue Angels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyk8zw0yxhE Cockpit view Thunderbirds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFq-5irxa4I Different branch, different rules. The AF is kinda anal about mas...Jump to post
Sounds like they were on AR-356, which is the westbound AR track from 260-280 (355 is eastbound).
If you have a rough time I'll see what I can scrounge.
I couldn't see the teams, but the 4 KC-10 tankers that are supporting them are visible on ADS-B. I was really hoping they would come down for a pass as well. A 4-ship KC-10 flyby would have been a sight to see. That being said, the two teams together was pretty cool. https://live.staticflickr.com/6...Jump to post
I'm not really sure why that's addressed to me. But I am aware of the current tanker ops tempo -- I'm ~ 350-400 'combat' sorties and counting -- and there's a world of difference between the O-1 and O-2 sorties being flown today (and every day since Desert Storm) and the types of combat sorties the ...Jump to post