Training missions are usually between 3-5 hours and the jets generally fly once a day or every other day. No wonder. You would never make up the cost of fuel saved vs the cost of the winglets and carying that weight, and maintenance. bt I wholeheartedly agree! A few years back, there was this big f...Jump to post
How long does a typical tanker mission stay aloft? Just like a commercial airline, the longer you stay aloft, the tradeoff goes to rake wingtip. bt Training missions are usually between 3-5 hours and the jets generally fly once a day or every other day. Unless they’re going somewhere they’re also n...Jump to post
Winglets *reduce* turbulence coming off the wing. That’s where the drag reduction comes from. If I remember right they weighed just 100 lbs and saved more than that in fuel every flight. They represented a payload increase. Thank you for the tutorial. While winglets *reduce* the net turbulence comi...Jump to post
It’s not just the weight of winglets on a WARP’d wing to consider, but also the airflow nightmare for the receiver pilot trying to use that pod. The WARPS on the airbus are much further inboard than on the 46, utilizing the A340’s engine 1 & 4 mount locations. The 46’s pods are near the wingtips...Jump to post
Hello! Today, President Biden visited Colorado and Air Force One landed at DIA. Does anyone know why DIA was chosen despite the fact that there are closer military bases such as Buckley AFB in Aurora? It seems in my opinion that landing at a base would not only be more secure but would logistically...Jump to post
bikerthai wrote:BestIntellect wrote:There is no mention of any 737-based airframe being cleared to tank from KC-46.
Flight test with the P-8A was done last year... Or was that just a photo op?
Considering the design requirements required of it, I think the C-17 MLG was designed to operate pretty ingeniously. Any more sponson and the acft drag/fuel-burn raises precipitously, but any less and weird mechanical difficulties result. There are a lot of faults to be bestowed onto McD designers/e...Jump to post
Terrible way to go. RIP bros.Jump to post
The laws of physics are pretty tough to overcome when a fan blade separates due to flight crew error, small window or not. The bigger problem than the window (no pun intended) is the pressure differential. Seat belt or not, they’re not going to stay in.Jump to post
The “good part” about COVID, at least from a military aviation standpoint, was that leadership and ATC were much more accepting of our aircraft doing pattern work at fields that would otherwise laugh at our requests to drop in for an approach or two. We’ve done touch-and-go’s at Oakland and SFO in t...Jump to post
Please try to think before you post. As someone who has worked on a C-17 or two, I suggest you do the same. You having turned a wrench or dumped jet-a into a Barney doesn’t make you a digital forensic investigator or empower you to start a conspiracy theory based solely on not thinking critically w...Jump to post
So gorgeous, she is. I was never lucky enough to fly on her, but I was lucky enough to tour an RAF example at Ascension Island ~ 2001. What an absolutely stunning jet! After 7,000 hours on the DC(KC)-10, I love the shit out of the McD product, but I'd trade a lot to snag a few flight hours on the L-...Jump to post
Convair, I think I understand what you're asking. Please correct me if I'm reading you wrong, but this might help: Lots of flaps = lots of drag and a little bit more lift, meaning your engines have to stay at a relatively high power setting to maintain your desired speed. Flaps 40 (and flaps 50 in t...Jump to post
I'm sure if the crew had stopped, shut down engines, and then explained the situation from the top egress chute (because I'm sure they speak the local language) this whole situation would've been avoided... :roll: C-17 taxiing video is very suspicious. No wheels turning. No copilot. No fan blades vi...Jump to post
^^ Most likely a combination of availability, tactical capes, and MOG issues. Especially with the MRT the C-5 would probably need. :lol: On the real, as much as aircrew joke about C-17s landing at the wrong airport (repeatedly) or forgetting their landing gear, this crew just showed what it’s all ab...Jump to post
As much as I hope the Afghan government can prevail, I'm often reminded of the old article about the NMAA "Multiplying by Zero" when i think of why the Afghans will never, ever, become capable of defending themselves. There are solid dudes in the Afghan military who can put up a legit figh...Jump to post
The above two posts are why I spend as much time in these threads as I do. Love these stories, even if I don't understand all of them fully. Thanks cjg! It's appreciated. Definitely a different life, but fun in the moment. Speaking of stories: circa 2012, headed back to California after two months ...Jump to post
Short story is because ground maneuvering accidents (hitting a light pole, going off a taxiway during a difficult turn, etc.) are the easiest ways for a crew to get their squadron/group/wing commanders fired. Or at least the easiest that don’t involve sex with the wrong person or driving drunk. Sinc...Jump to post
No RJMAZ, LanLanley, it seems you are the ones that only read what you want to read and believe what confirms your pre occupations. :worried: Praise from Caesar. In any case, it’s too bad the Swiss apparently can’t read, if I’m following your logic train along its tracks. If so, they apparently wou...Jump to post
keesje wrote:RJMAZ, the mods want us to provide sources, not opinions, preferences posted as facts.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.statis ... -aircraft/
Mohawk, I think I understand what you’re proposing, but I don’t think it can work in Afghanistan. The Israelis can do their thing on one tank of gas and from their own territory; American jets can’t. They need tankers, basing rights, and overflight rights. They also have to be ok with, essentially, ...Jump to post
Ah, yes. I remember well all the defense spending meant to catch up to Russian equipment reliability metrics over the decades. A little less hubris would be appropriate. Underestimation of foreign equipment and training has repeatedly bitten US forces and their allies in the ass. I agree, but I thi...Jump to post
Often we see Russian aircraft being dismissed, as a habit. Until funding is needed for local new programs. Then an urgent re$pon$e is required to face this serious threat. Always works. Ah, yes. I remember well all the defense spending meant to catch up to Russian equipment reliability metrics over...Jump to post
Wow, it's a good thing we're retiring all these KC-10s now. They seem to be pretty useful for this sort of fight. Yep! And it doesn't take a modern-day Napoleon to figure out they'd also be invaluable in a Pacific party, too. Considering the distances involved, the KC-10 is pretty much tailor-made ...Jump to post
What is it about drama and military pilots? 100% credit for "saving his life," yet doesn't even know what was wrong with the airplane, what was found in the ground. He's lucky it was a dark grey: at least he got a timely thank you and some acknowledgment afterwards. A light grey pilot wou...Jump to post
More airstrikes over the weekend. Does anyone know what packages are being used for these airstrikes and where they may be from? https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/41709/what-it-takes-for-u-s-jets-to-keep-fighting-in-afghanistan-from-over-the-horizon Happy reading Sigh. Not bad for a Drive artic...Jump to post
Yikes! wrote:Seems to me the original question was nothing more than bait.
Anyone that has done a single hour of flight training knows the answer to the original question.
As soon as I wrote that I thought of the poster from WWII - Loose Lips sink Ships. It certainly was a tactical blunder by the Tailban. It’s all good. I don’t believe it’s secret or anything, but it does fall under OPSEC. That being said, with a little sleuthing on google maps in the usual gulf coas...Jump to post
MohawkWeekend wrote:More airstrikes over the weekend. Does anyone know what packages are being used for these airstrikes and where they may be from?
"New engineering" includes figuring out how to prevent the JSTARS radar being blocked by the larger nacelles of the CFM-56. The phrase here, which every military member has heard ad nauseam to explain various ills including why we have brand new plasma screens in the squadron at the end of...Jump to post
How we expected to turn a landlocked "country" already in utter ruins, with one or two barely functioning cities encompassed by a wild west whose population has no education and whose loyalties lie not to country but only to clan, surrounded by hostile or not-openly-hostile nations into so...Jump to post
rlwynn wrote:-g breakaways?
Fascinating insight, thank you for the replies. KC10 absolutely looks like a better way to ride. It almost looks comfortable. KC46 setup almost has me wondering, at what point does the boom operators station and screens even have to be in the aircraft? At some point surely it must make things easie...Jump to post
bikerthai wrote:LyleLanley wrote:The 10 is far more civilized:
Have you seen how the Italian KC-767 is set UP?
Not at all FGITD, it’s not exactly a setup that would be common knowledge if you’ve never been on one. On the 135 you walk along their cargo compartment and in the very back there are two slit trenches, separated on either side by the jet’s oxygen bottles (not kidding). You step into either slit tre...Jump to post
As a former receiver, why is the visual, cockpit positioned boomer so necessary? It seems to me, the old seated at the rear would be cheaper, simpler. Supposedly it's a lot cheaper and easier than cutting a hole in the pressure vessel and installing an ARO station in the back. On the KC-30, they pr...Jump to post
Keesje, do you know what MOG means? Isn't MOG a half man, half dog sidekick from Spaceballs? Barf? He was his own best friend. Break, break RJMAZ, you're never gonna change their minds, no matter what you say. They view being nearly 100,000 pounds heavier as trivial and can't comprehend how the USA...Jump to post
Honestly, as much as I'm a fan of the -10, I think that more -46s is the better answer than re-creating an effective if nearly immediately orphaned fleet. Yeah, we all wish that AMC and AFMC hadn't pooched the development of the -46, but here we are. You’re probably right, but we’ll see what mother...Jump to post
USAF not pleased about a boom they don't operate? It seems most types were qualified on MRTT yrs ago. Unlike on the KC46. Not pleased about a boom they operate from. There's a difference. And apart from being in the wrong position on the A330, there are airflow problems with the Airbus boom you're ...Jump to post
Yes, it is a little more capable, but how much chance did Boeing really have to sell to countries that had Airbus interests? The list is a bit to long to suggest they all had Airbus interests. Apart from that, over the years the KC46 development probably didn't really make an impression on selectio...Jump to post
i think the KC-46B based on the 764F would be a great upgrade. Have a freighter the 764 size and one the length of the KC-46. It would extend the life of the 767 line with both freighters and tankers. What isn't there to like. Apart from a complete and total do-over of the KC-46A flight test and AR...Jump to post
meecrob wrote:The Navy and their F-8's and A-7's would like a word....
That's a pretty good list with one exception, the P-8. I saw one shooting touch and goes at SDF a few weeks ago. They must have plenty of airplanes for them to be flying around the central USA......those Russian subs in the Ohio River are a real threat..... Would love to see more 130J's. Hard to be...Jump to post