It appears that Boeing culture has made significant departures from "accepted best practice" such a strict adherence to procedures, and formal checking arrangements, instead has moved towards "creative expediency" This to me indicates that management, and infact, the entire opera...
Jump to postWhich part of " demoralized staff who not even necessarily know, what's "the right thing" or how to come about learning, how to do "the right thing" do you insist on missing? Of course workers who do poor quality work are no heroes. And of course "every quality issue t...
Jump to postAnd exactly that's how you ruin a company. If a worker thinks he can make himself more worth by knowing more than others instead of sharing this knowledge in the fear of being let go, both the individual and the company have issues that need to be solved, because in the long run both of them will a...
Jump to postDozens of a320/a321neos grounded due to engine issues ATM , not news worthy I guess since it's not Boeing and also not really an airbus problem but it seems at this point no airline is totally immune to fleet reliability issues even those who fly airbus narrowbodies. The media isn't helping things ...
Jump to postLet’s let the investigation play on it this one ladies and gents. I hope his family and friends can have some privacy through this. For now, the timing of this man's death is nothing more than coincidence until the police have done their jobs. I don't think it is a coincidence. Giving evidence over...
Jump to postEmergency services are responding to a Latam aircraft which has just landed at AKL from SYD. The flight experienced a sudden drop in altitude and about a dozen people have required medical treatment. Some people have been seriously injured. https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/03/11/emergency-response-at-a...
Jump to postOne has to wonder, what has made Boeing think that not giving these names to NTSB is the better choice? Is NTSB interviewing these people really scary for Boeing management, maybe they don't want them whistleblowing etc? The fundemental tenet of the public affairs industry ; Is Control the Narrativ...
Jump to post........ Also, does Boeing keep track of Spirit Aerosystems personnel in the factory or is that handled by Spirit? If the latter, then Boeing, again, might not have that information to provide (or they are waiting to receive it from Spirit before passing it on to the NTSB). Boeing would be negligen...
Jump to postObviously the interface between Boeing and Spirit needs a very significant reset. Boeing repurchasing some or all of them, is one option. But this alone will not solve Boeing's current problems in which maintaining consistant adequate quality seems their most urgent to address. The issues appear to ...
Jump to postFor most people who are paying for the tickets, price will remain the dominant factor, followed by flight timings, perceived quality of service, predominantly on time performance, but also hard and soft product. But certainly there is significant proportion of us that make, an at least rudimentary, ...
Jump to post2018 the first MAX crash, and Boeing still seems not to have learned its lesson. How you do all of you think Boeing should be given before they quit offering apologies and announce they will do better, for them actually to do better? Boeing may indeed be a slow learner. But inspite of significant r...
Jump to postSo I think a gap in passenger capacity between the largest popular single isle passenger jets and the smallest popular twin isle jet will remain significant. Reflecting the significance of the extra cost of providing that extra isle's worth of non revenue earning space. This. The industry needs tho...
Jump to postThere is an awkward transition in capacity for passenger aircraft. The transition between largest practible single isle aircraft, so a six abreast aircraft with fuselage length maxed out, and the smallest aircraft that can economically afford the penalty of an extra isle of non revenue earning fusel...
Jump to postAbsolutely the E190 could open up so many possibilities. Not only those ones but CHC- ADL , plus AKL- CBR and AKL- NTL to name just a few. Isn't there an issue with diversion requirements for the E190 rendering anything other than ex-Queensland TT, not workable (with NLK as the diversion)? That is ...
Jump to postIn my line of work (medicine), if you're in the middle of a procedure and someone calls you away, you say: "I'm sorry, I'm in the middle of a procedure. I'll help you out as soon as I'm finished." But was opening, and then closing the plug ever realistically part of the same procedure tha...
Jump to postSo...Joe Snuffy removes said red pins, re-hangs door and gets called way for something. Never goes back. Shift change. Who is responsible for signing off the work then to ensure the bolts are put back? In my line of work (medicine), if you're in the middle of a procedure and someone calls you away,...
Jump to postSo...Joe Snuffy removes said red pins, re-hangs door and gets called way for something. Never goes back. Shift change. Who is responsible for signing off the work then to ensure the bolts are put back? In my line of work (medicine), if you're in the middle of a procedure and someone calls you away,...
Jump to postIt seems to me that for minimal extra investment by Boeing in their 787 program they have produced a perfectly competant larger varient that does all that it was said to do, but a varient that currently has very limited prospects of doing much more. Buyers are getting what they paid for, but if thei...
Jump to postA lawsuit has been filed stating that passengers on a prior flight in the plane had reported unusual whistling noises near the door plug: “According to the complaint, passengers on the earlier flight heard the sound “coming from the vicinity of the door plug.” They brought it to the attention of fl...
Jump to postMy understanding of the Air NZ situation is that they think the GE engines of their latest order will be marginally more efficient the Rolls engines fitted to their first tranche. This is all important for those ULH routes they fly when just a little more range translates to less empty seats and les...
Jump to postLots of words there, but actions are more important. Unfortunately too many companies seem to act as if having an appropriate motherhood statement, and prefexing all communications about their accidents with "Safety is at the forefront of everything we do" is an alternative to actually do...
Jump to postI think you’re inferring values on the mission statement. Boeing lays out more details if you bothered to look. How we operate Start with engineering excellence A strong engineering foundation enables us to build and maintain our products with safety, quality and integrity in the factory and in ser...
Jump to postClean sheet rule of thumb... 20 percent improvement in efficiency is the benchmark. Hopefully engines can provide 10 percent with each generational period. TTBW looks to be slightly less than 30 percent from airframe only in the wind tunnel. Since current TTBW is a partnership, Boeing will not have...
Jump to postIsn't it amazing by how much the now universal access to digital photography has enhanced our abilities to record work progress?
And misdemeanours.
In a bit of good news Boeing has said there were no other loose bolts found on Max Rudders after all maxes (except one) have been inspected. https://www.chronline.com/stories/rudder-bolts-inspected-on-all-boeing-737-maxes-no-more-faults-found,334230? this is typical of the multitude of fleet checks...
Jump to postA lawsuit has been filed stating that passengers on a prior flight in the plane had reported unusual whistling noises near the door plug: “According to the complaint, passengers on the earlier flight heard the sound “coming from the vicinity of the door plug.” They brought it to the attention of fl...
Jump to postIt is not that hard. People set up competent processes in much less life-critical businesses. Joe Snuffy is not allowed to leave, go on break, take a pish, exit his shift, anything, with the red ribbons in hand (or thrown on the ground or the trash). Joey must replace the pins in the bolt spaces (w...
Jump to postWhat a mess we make trying to inflict change on a world we do not understand. ................... I think most of us know enough of the current Boeing World to know that present outputs are not acceptable out here in the wider world the rest of us occupy. Outputs not acceptable to shareholders, who...
Jump to postWhat a mess we make trying to inflict change on a world we do not understand. ................... I think most of us know enough of the current Boeing World to know that present outputs are not acceptable out here in the wider world the rest of us occupy. Outputs not acceptable to shareholders, who...
Jump to postWould a new clean-sheet design have had less manufacturing quality issues than we are seeing with the Max? If you think so, why? That's a very interesting question. Personally, I think, a clean-sheet design would be a disaster for many reasons: 1) Boeing had massive issues with all their recent dev...
Jump to postPart of the Figure 16 caption: "These Boeing personnel were discussing interior restoration after the rivet rework was completed during second shift operations that day." The Figure 16 combined with the Leeham commenter's account paint a compelling sequence. Spirit does the second rivet f...
Jump to postIn the Spirit, or Boeing Production System, or even Airbus system, QC/QA does not inspect every rivet hole or rivet. Representative sampling is the keyword. I find it telling that the original door plug fiasco started over 2 rivets. This one was not a QA/QC finding, but a self disclosure. Yes but a...
Jump to postBREAKING: Boeing in an internal memo said it has been notified of a new "non-conformance" on two rivets on 50 737 Max fuselages that require inspection and rework. This is not a safety of flight issue, but has to be corrected before delivery, delaying shipment to airlines. 7:49 PM · Feb 4...
Jump to postHonestly, I think it's time to pull the type. It will cause massive upheaval, but Boeing can either develop a new type and do it the right way or they can go bankrupt and cede the entire market to Airbus. But I would have done this back in 2019. And if we had, Boeing might be most of the way to a N...
Jump to postTrue to topic "Boeings Troubles" has concentrated on to why Boeing has landed itself in it's current predicament. A predicament some think it is on a path to it's demise. So if it is to reverse it's current trajectory and strengthen it's current place in World aviation, What changes are ne...
Jump to postGovernment is pretty successful at running businesses in general, for example.. ugh... mmm... eeeehhhh... Ok whatever. But I am sure they would do a much better job this time! /s I certainly are not advocating for nationalising Boeing. But both as a major supplier, and a major cohabitee with strong...
Jump to postUndoubtably Boeing has to change to reverse it's fortunes. Its business priorities need to be reset. So a change in direction is required. And direction is set by it's directors. And these are largely appointed by it's largest shareholders. Unfortunately it is currently primarily left up to them, t...
Jump to postUndoubtably Boeing has to change to reverse it's fortunes. Its business priorities need to be reset. So a change in direction is required. And direction is set by it's directors. And these are largely appointed by it's largest shareholders. Unfortunately it is currently primarily left up to them, to...
Jump to postBecause of a newer base aircraft there are probably one ot two major iterations ahead of the competing A320 series. . I do not believe that. Personally I believe any A320 interation following the NEO would need a new engine AND a new wing to remain competitive with whatever the Boeing 737 replaceme...
Jump to postBoeing owns a lot of wasteland around the South Carolina plant. Building a new airplane there would make a lot of sense, and would be far away from the unions. Why to be far away from the unions? Fred Non union labor is compensated less. And isn't that a problem? Unions ensured that the spoils from...
Jump to postI wonder if the AS plane had any unusual bumping like a hard landing or something to push the plug off the track. Does the aircraft's computer show logs of flight characteristics? The aircraft flew on 145 departures before flight 1282 with no bolts holding the plug tight. The track must have held t...
Jump to postLet’s talk about the missing 4 bolts folks. Calhoun knew early on that they were not reinstalled and that is why he took the blame early on—class act nonetheless. But now they must know who specifically screwed up and how many people were involved. They need to announce that they have fired people ...
Jump to postIsn't it that the difference in the cost of maintaining big engines compared to small engines no where near proportional to the increase in power? They have roughly the same number of parts and roughly the same number of required inspections and part replacements per engine. So two big engines, even...
Jump to postWhen Boeing resolve their quality programs, and their underlying production process and procurement processes the current MAX iteration of hugely important large single aisle airliner will be OK for now. But it is almost certainly the last viable iteration of that basic design. Limited by it's now o...
Jump to postMany here believe the entire Max program should be shut down and grounded. "Many" in the aviation business and with actual knowledge of aviation? I think that's an exaggeration. [. . .] I think you forgot the quotes, let me help you out (with emphasis): "Many here . . ." Convers...
Jump to postOf course Boeing is in a bind of its own making. That doesn’t mean that investing a new product for the sake of investing in a new product makes sense. Nor does firing management. Or not worrying about the bottom line. There are a lot of asinine suggestions that will do nothing to solve Boeing’s pr...
Jump to postWho would be a good leader at Boeing? I don’t really think the opinion of people who simply say Boeing’s leaders are the problem and should go, without offering a suggestion on what individuals are suitable to step in, have merit. Plus I would add that accusations of current management being focuse...
Jump to postThe rear vision view is important in providing information as to why Boeing is in the place it now is in. But the view forwards out the windscreen, and how the information contained there, is far more important. This information and how effectively it is processed, determines whether you improve you...
Jump to postYou make a solid point. If there is one more max incident, even if it has nothing to do with it being a max and just gets "737max" plastered all over the news, the public reputation fallout is going to be irrecoverable. Its almost there already. Based on what data? Not to assume too much,...
Jump to postOutsourcing per se is not a problem. But it does introduce another layer of difficulty in oversight and therefore maintaining quality. Many of the benifits of outsourcing can be obtained, with less risk, but perhaps with less assured initial cost savings, by establishing your own plants in other cou...
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