by CanukinUSA
Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted
Replies: 582
Views: 73681

Re: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted

https://apple.news/AiAB84qGuSFmx6He1p7GOng
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Link to article by one of the prosecutors who is retired from North Texas office about the DOJ case against Boeing and Mark Forkner. It may be behind firewall.
https://apple.news/AiAB84qGuSFmx6He1p7GOng

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by CanukinUSA
Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted
Replies: 582
Views: 73681

Re: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted

My question about this is:
What effect will the information that may come out have on the criminal trial for Captain Forkner? Obviously some information may come out in this action that may effect the charges against him by the DOJ.

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by CanukinUSA
Sun Jan 09, 2022 7:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted
Replies: 582
Views: 73681

Re: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted

In a somewhat 737 Max related legal action, It appears that the owners of the Boeing company (the shareholders) have had their legal action against the Boeing management involved in the 737 Max mess by possibly lying to the shareholders revived by the US appeals court on Friday. It sounds like the l...

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by CanukinUSA
Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA to prohibit many flight operations due to risk of ‘5G’ wireless interference
Replies: 512
Views: 64638

Re: FAA to prohibit many flight operations due to risk of ‘5G’ wireless interference

If you read my link above, you will realize that the FAA was bringing this up earlier with concerns from the aerospace manufacturers but the submission letter to the FCC was not forwarded on by the National Telcommuncations and Information Administration (NTIA) when it was being decided whether to a...

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by CanukinUSA
Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA to prohibit many flight operations due to risk of ‘5G’ wireless interference
Replies: 512
Views: 64638

Re: FAA to prohibit many flight operations due to risk of ‘5G’ wireless interference

Here is a link to the latest information on 5G around airports. I presume that the 5G providers decided they would not be in a good situation legally if they started up 5G today. That is probably why they suddenly reversed their stand on 5G. Apparently the NTIA failed to put a 2020 letter from the F...

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by CanukinUSA
Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted
Replies: 582
Views: 73681

Re: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted

https://www.flightglobal.com/airframers ... 11.article
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Trial Dismissal request and Another Trial delay until March for Captain Forkner: From Flight Global (behind Firewall)

https://www.flightglobal.com/airframers ... 11.article

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by CanukinUSA
Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:16 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Altimeters, static pressure, and lift
Replies: 48
Views: 2589

Re: Altimeters, static pressure, and lift

Don't forget that there are Air Data Computers that will correct for any known errors in pressure readings that were determined during Flight Testing with accurate instrumentation for altitude, airspeed, etc. are all altitudes and speeds within the operational limits of the aircraft.

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by CanukinUSA
Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:32 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Altimeters, static pressure, and lift
Replies: 48
Views: 2589

Re: Altimeters, static pressure, and lift

Keep in mind that a lot of the theories were once believed to be correct particularly in fields such as Engineering where the background behind the theory has not been taught. Many occupations such as Engineers have only been taught how to calculate using rote memorized mathematical formulas and hav...

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by CanukinUSA
Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:44 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Altimeters, static pressure, and lift
Replies: 48
Views: 2589

Re: Altimeters, static pressure, and lift

I think what has been missed here is that incorrect theories can be used in some cases because the assumptions that they were based onthat are used work. When things go wrong is when aircraft manufacturers, airlines and operators use the incorrect ideas in new and unexpected ways that cause the theo...

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by CanukinUSA
Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:36 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Altimeters, static pressure, and lift
Replies: 48
Views: 2589

Re: Altimeters, static pressure, and lift

I think that everyone involved in this discussion needs to read the book entitled “Understanding Aerodynamics. Arguing from the Real Physics” by Doug McLean. Published by John Wiley & Sons in 2013. ISBN 978-1-119-96791-4. It has about 580 pages covering in a very detailed fashion what you are de...

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by CanukinUSA
Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted
Replies: 582
Views: 73681

Re: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted

An explanation of the lawsuit filed under the Crime Victoms Act by the filer (Law Professor, ex-Federal Judge, Lawyer) against.the Boeing Company over the 737 Max. For details go to: https://reason.com/volokh/2021/12/17/a-crime-victims-rights-act-challenge-to-the-boeing-737-max-crashes-deferred-pros...

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by CanukinUSA
Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted
Replies: 582
Views: 73681

Re: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted

Just came across a copy of the victums lawsuit filed yesterday against Boeing in the North Texas Court. The case is the United States vs Boeing. For details go to: https://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Boeing_CVA_motion.pdf If I were a engineer and/or an executive involve...

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by CanukinUSA
Thu Dec 16, 2021 4:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted
Replies: 582
Views: 73681

Re: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted

It will be interesting to see if this lawsuit filed by the 737 Crash Victims families mentioned in today's New York Times blows apart the Boeing/DOJ agreement over the MAX mess given that the proper process appears to not have been followed by the previous US administration in it's last days by not ...

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by CanukinUSA
Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted
Replies: 582
Views: 73681

Re: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted

I guess that depends on what your definition of good damage control is. They are good at the superficial damage control but they have completely failed at the important damage control items. They have lost billions, lost market share, destroyed their reputation and are losing many of their customers...

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by CanukinUSA
Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted
Replies: 582
Views: 73681

Re: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigatio ... 021-12-14/
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The defense stratagie that Captain Forkner is going to use in his court case is starting to leak out in the news. For details go to:
https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigatio ... 021-12-14/

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by CanukinUSA
Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted
Replies: 582
Views: 73681

Re: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted

What seems to have been overlooked in this discussion is that the simulator has to have been approved by the FAA before the training requirements can be assessed by the FAA AEG or any foreign equivalent CAA. I have seen aircraft certification programs held up because the simulator did not get approv...

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by CanukinUSA
Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:40 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: GLS Approaches Published by FAA in KSFO
Replies: 13
Views: 1452

Re: GLS Approaches Published by FAA in KSFO

I agree with everyone it is only a start at KSFO and a slow one at that but it has only taken 5 years to get the GBAS/GLS Ground station going. Hopefully they can get the special approaches going that were researched back in 2016 soon. The approaches researched are much more complicated and better f...

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by CanukinUSA
Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:02 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: GLS Approaches Published by FAA in KSFO
Replies: 13
Views: 1452

GLS Approaches Published by FAA in KSFO

The latest approach chart revisions have new GLS approaches for KSFO. Hopefully that will shorten delays when traffic gets back to normal and enable some better noise and environmental procedures for KSFO now for GLS equipped aircraft.

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by CanukinUSA
Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted
Replies: 582
Views: 73681

Re: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted

My guess is that Congress did not want to follow the paper trail on down from the CPE as it would clearly illustrate how the E-UMs/ARs were not doing their job for the FAA that they are supposed to be when they are acting in their AR or now E-UM role on the ODA system, probably under pressure from B...

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by CanukinUSA
Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted
Replies: 582
Views: 73681

Re: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 021-11-29/
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It appears that some member of the US Congress are asking for more details on the Boeing 737 Max oversight by the FAA. We will see if this amounts to anything or not.
For details go to
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 021-11-29/

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by CanukinUSA
Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted
Replies: 582
Views: 73681

Re: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JB65CUaQ-M
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It appears that the Presentation "Flying Blind:The 737 MAX Tragedy and the Fall of Boeing" may be livestreamed in about 20 minutes on youtube at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JB65CUaQ-M

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by CanukinUSA
Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA Confirms Boeing Halts 787 Deliveries
Replies: 441
Views: 108655

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

More 787 news has reached the US Financial Press. Boeing Dreamliner defects bog down production. Sounds like the latest issue is structure around the doors. For details see Wall Street Journal today (behind Firewall I believe): https://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-dreamliner-defects-bog-down-producti...

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by CanukinUSA
Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted
Replies: 582
Views: 73681

Re: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted

Correction: Last sentence should be in previous post: It was rumoured to be released a few months ago but that has not happened.

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by CanukinUSA
Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted
Replies: 582
Views: 73681

Re: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted

The Lion Air Official Aircraft Accident report has been released and is available on the Indonesian Aircraft Accident Investigiation site. The Ethiopean Accident report has not been released and is a preliminary version only. When the official report will be released is not currently known given the...

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by CanukinUSA
Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted
Replies: 582
Views: 73681

Re: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted

Interesting Town Hall Seattle Event to be livestreamed on Friday 11/19/2021 at 07:30 PM PST (Seattle) time on "Flying Blind:The 737 MAX Tragedy and the Fall of Boeing" with Dominic Gates (Seattle Times) and Peter Robison (Bloombeerg). https://townhallseattle.org/event/peter-robison-with-do...

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by CanukinUSA
Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:46 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: LAT/LONG - Most accurate unit measuring system in aviation?
Replies: 7
Views: 1927

Re: LAT/LONG - Most accurate unit measuring system in aviation?

The most accurate position data for a given point in Aviation is the Surveyors coordinates that have been obtained during surveying done for the Civil Aviation Authority in a particular country. Using Differential GPS surveying these positions are typically within cm of the correct position and obta...

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by CanukinUSA
Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted
Replies: 582
Views: 73681

Re: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted

Coordination sheets are a Boeing Internal document. I think that the question should be whether the coordination sheet was obtained by government agencies such as the Department of Justice, FBI and Inspector General of the Department of Transportation when they obtained documents after the Ethiopian...

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by CanukinUSA
Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:12 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Three Years after Lion Air 610: FAA Implimentation of 2020 Aircraft Certification, Safety, and Accountability Act
Replies: 1
Views: 500

Re: Three Years after Lion Air 610: FAA Implimentation of 2020 Aircraft Certification, Safety, and Accountability Act

The hearing just finished up in Washington. Not much new was mentioned. The same issues appear to be still present with the FAA and the 737 MAX. Many politicians talked about other issues with the FAA besides the 737 MAX with the FAA administrator. I assume it will show up later on video on the abov...

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by CanukinUSA
Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:24 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Three Years after Lion Air 610: FAA Implimentation of 2020 Aircraft Certification, Safety, and Accountability Act
Replies: 1
Views: 500

Three Years after Lion Air 610: FAA Implimentation of 2020 Aircraft Certification, Safety, and Accountability Act

For details for online viewing and timing please go to: https://transportation.house.gov/committee-activity/hearings/three-years-after-lion-air-610-faa-implementation-of-the-2020-aircraft-certification-safety-and-accountability-act It will be interesting to see if the US Congress will do anything or...

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by CanukinUSA
Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted
Replies: 582
Views: 73681

Re: PBS Frontline: Boeing's Fatal Flaw

Revising the documents and/or procedures is not the same as revising the training requirements such as mandating simulator training. The training requirements can be revised at any time by a Flight Standardization Report from the Aircraft Evaluation Group of the FAA. There does not have to be a airw...

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by CanukinUSA
Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing's Fatal Flaw, former Chief Technical Pilot indicted
Replies: 582
Views: 73681

Re: PBS Frontline: Boeing's Fatal Flaw

A couple of questions on your comments: 1) Please advise us/me where you have the idea that there is a law that states that the FAA cannot impose regulations based on hypothetical events? I would sure like to know which law that is. For example most of the airworthiness regulations governing aircraf...

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by CanukinUSA
Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:50 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Airplane Air Circulation Questions
Replies: 10
Views: 1838

Re: Airplane Air Circulation Questions

https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0044720
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"Simulation of aerosol transmission on a Boeing 737 airplane with intervention measures for COVID-19 mitigation" Paper on Cabin Air Circulation simulation in the 737-700 and 737-800 for Covid-19 spread. For Details go to:
https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0044720

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by CanukinUSA
Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:04 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Airplane Air Circulation Questions
Replies: 10
Views: 1838

Re: Airplane Air Circulation Questions

For more details on the aircraft air circulation system in use in most airliners and more please refer to a study that was done in 2002 by the National Research Council in the US. It is a little dated and some of the newer aircraft (787, etc.) use quite different systems for air circulation but does...

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by CanukinUSA
Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:40 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Can you expand on this quote on speed stability in the CV-880M to help me understand it better?
Replies: 11
Views: 1867

Re: Can you expand on this quote on speed stability in the CV-880M to help me understand it better?

Another correction: The type certificate 4A27 is for the Convair 880 only. The model 22 has General Electric Turbojet CJ805-3 or CJ805-3A Engines with 11200 lbs. rated thrust. The model 22M has General Electric Turbojet CJ805-3B engines at a higher rated thrust of 11650 lbs. There are additional cha...

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by CanukinUSA
Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:29 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Can you expand on this quote on speed stability in the CV-880M to help me understand it better?
Replies: 11
Views: 1867

Re: Can you expand on this quote on speed stability in the CV-880M to help me understand it better?

Substitute 880 for 990 in my comments. If you need to see the certification standards that the Convair 880/990 was certified to check the FAA Type Certificate Data Sheet 4A27 now held by AeroXin Industries, Inc.and the Aircraft Model is called 22 (Convair 880) and 22M (Convair 990). For more details...

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by CanukinUSA
Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:59 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Can you expand on this quote on speed stability in the CV-880M to help me understand it better?
Replies: 11
Views: 1867

Re: Can you expand on this quote on speed stability in the CV-880M to help me understand it better?

The Convair 990 was certified long before 14 CFR Part 25 (FAR Part 25 for some people) existed so any references to it are not what the aircraft was certified to. It was certified under CAM 4b SR-422B "Airplane Airworthiness; Transport Categories" as far as I can determine. For details sea...

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by CanukinUSA
Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes
Replies: 145
Views: 17106

Re: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes

Corrections to comments on previous posts: 1) When the 737 Max simulator was manufactured the Company was not CAE it was TRU. It was only recently bought up by CAE and is now part of CAE. 2) Where and by whom the software was written would depend on whether the system was simulated with software and...

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by CanukinUSA
Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes
Replies: 145
Views: 17106

Re: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes

Every year the regulatory agencies must perform some of the original simulator checks to keep the simulator approved (certified) for training when they visit a simulator training center for every simulator to ensure that they match flight test data. The Flight Test Data has way more information on t...

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by CanukinUSA
Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes
Replies: 145
Views: 17106

Re: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes

According to the FlightGlobal 2021 Civil Simulator Census there are at least 34 Boeing 737 Max Full Flight Simulators now certified worldwide at Level-C or Level-D. There are 4 additional Simulators listed in China that may be certified as their certification status is not listed. I believe that Sur...

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by CanukinUSA
Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes
Replies: 145
Views: 17106

Re: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes

The only 737 Simulator listed in the FlightGlobal 2021 Civil Simulator Census for the 737 in Ethiopia is at Ethiopian Airlines and is a 737NG Level-D Full Flight Simulator built by Flight Safety International. If there is another 737 Max simulator it is not certified right now. Given that the Simula...

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by CanukinUSA
Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes
Replies: 145
Views: 17106

Re: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes

Ethiopian can brand their simulator to whatever the Ethiopian CAA allows them to do, and I am certain that the simulator that was approved is the one at Boeing which would have had to be approved to assist the aircraft certification. If the Ethiopian CAA approved the Ethiopian Airlines simulator for...

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by CanukinUSA
Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes
Replies: 145
Views: 17106

Re: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes

I agree with you that the simulator should not have been branded as a 737 MAX simulator as it is not until it is accepted as such with the proper flight model. That is obviously a marketing gimmick by the simulator manufacturer to sell simulators. Many of the simulators can be loaded with different ...

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by CanukinUSA
Mon Aug 09, 2021 3:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes
Replies: 145
Views: 17106

Re: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes

I noted in that article that there was only one simulator at Boeing that was approved for the MAX. That was probably the simulator used by Captain Forkner when he was making his comments in the IMs and emails. The airline simulators had not been given the flight model for the MAX as a result probabl...

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by CanukinUSA
Mon Aug 09, 2021 3:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes
Replies: 145
Views: 17106

Re: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes

The other problem with simulating high manual pitch trim forces at high speeds is that someone would have to go out in flight test and obtain data on the manual pitch trim force's. This would likely be a very high risk test condition. The forces if they are even simulated (which I do not recall bein...

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by CanukinUSA
Mon Aug 09, 2021 3:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes
Replies: 145
Views: 17106

Re: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes

What they are referring to is the higher control forces on the manual trim wheel at high speeds which does not surprise me as I do not remember there being any manual pitch trim forces standards required to be simulated on simulators which to me is a serious oversight at least for the 737 and simila...

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by CanukinUSA
Mon Aug 09, 2021 2:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes
Replies: 145
Views: 17106

Re: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes

We don’t know that without knowing the details on the particular flight model installed on the simulator. Like I stated in a previous post it sounded to me that the MCAS including the low speed feature quite likely could have been in the flight model installed on the first full flight training simul...

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by CanukinUSA
Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes
Replies: 145
Views: 17106

Re: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes

Even if the simulators were sold as NGs they would not be legal to use for 737 MAX training until the regulator approved them after 737 MAX flight model simulator acceptance. This again raises questions about the Flight Model that was being sent to the simulator manufacturers and airlines from Boein...

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by CanukinUSA
Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes
Replies: 145
Views: 17106

Re: Call to cancel DPA with Boeing on 737MAX Crashes

The internal engineering simulators are located in Seattle not in Florida. I have used them for testing before I retired from Boeing Flight Test. The simulator in Florida would have been first 737 MAX Full Flight Training Simulator at the training center in Florida. The FAA has to use a Properly FAA...

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