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by bajs11
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:00 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Chinese J-16 cut across RAAF P-8A Poseidon
Replies: 80
Views: 5551

Re: Chinese J-16 cut across RAAF P-8A Poseidon

Since when was the RoC/Taiwan a part of the PRC? The PRC has never occupied Taiwan. I guess some people have been reading too many Global Times articles also by your logic the Kim dynasty should just finish what they started in 1950 I mean at one point they did occupy almost all of the Korean penins...

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by bajs11
Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:33 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Chinese J-16 cut across RAAF P-8A Poseidon
Replies: 80
Views: 5551

Re: Chinese J-16 cut across RAAF P-8A Poseidon

I don’t think it’s up to the West to dictate who gets to be a superpower or not. That decision is only made through war. And technically, China was a world superpower in the past - under the reign of the Khans. bt I was referring to what the US of A did since Nixon decided to meet chairman Mao in 1...

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by bajs11
Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:14 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Chinese J-16 cut across RAAF P-8A Poseidon
Replies: 80
Views: 5551

Re: Chinese J-16 cut across RAAF P-8A Poseidon

Japan? I am not certain. But yes unless China invade Taiwan, I do not see a scenario where a war with China would occur. Even if there was an "incident" in the Straight. Now along the Indian border . . . I have no clue. bt They will most likely be involved. https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opini...

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by bajs11
Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:47 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Boeing P-8 Poseidon News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022
Replies: 69
Views: 11545

Re: Boeing P-8 Poseidon News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022

Not sure if the P-1 can be retrofitted for the newer and longer range missile. It should be able to if it can handle Harpoons. The interface should be the same, its just a matter of upgrading the software to the stores management system (or at most replacing the SMS computer) and go through the gau...

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by bajs11
Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:17 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Chinese J-16 cut across RAAF P-8A Poseidon
Replies: 80
Views: 5551

Re: Chinese J-16 cut across RAAF P-8A Poseidon

Do you really see China as the aggressor in this, if any country is going to start the conflict I don't see it being them. Then I suppose all the talk about retaking Taiwan by force is merely posturing. In that case, I am hopeful. I plan to spend some time in SE Asia when I retire and a war with Ch...

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by bajs11
Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:10 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Boeing P-8 Poseidon News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022
Replies: 69
Views: 11545

Re: Boeing P-8 Poseidon News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022

As others have noted, the advantages of the P-8 are lower operational and sustainment costs, at the expense of lesser offensive capabilities and low-altitude performance. Is the P-1 able to fire long range anti-ship missiles like the AGM-158C? https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/05/navair-pro...

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by bajs11
Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:45 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Chinese J-16 cut across RAAF P-8A Poseidon
Replies: 80
Views: 5551

Re: Chinese J-16 cut across RAAF P-8A Poseidon

The Korean war was not a NATO operation. The US pressured it's allies into fighting in Afghanistan. yeah... I did mention that the NATO members entered the Korean war as part of the UN forces. Keep nitpicking, bro. Does that mean the US also pressured its allies into aiding Ukraine? Yes both US of ...

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by bajs11
Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:51 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Boeing P-8 Poseidon News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022
Replies: 69
Views: 11545

Re: Boeing P-8 Poseidon News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022

The frame is already in operation, they could quickly customize their electronics. Brilliant thought. Let's just say Boeing seems to know enough about the P-1 to offer an unsolicited bid of the P-8 to Japan. Of course Japan turned them down. bt Boeing seriously did that? :shakehead: Must be those 7...

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by bajs11
Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:41 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Chinese J-16 cut across RAAF P-8A Poseidon
Replies: 80
Views: 5551

Re: Chinese J-16 cut across RAAF P-8A Poseidon

At least the US of A doesn't claim every single island in the Caribbean as part of their territory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_disputes_in_the_South_China_Sea Then again the West should blame themselves for have created this new empire which may be as hostile and ambitious as the Emp...

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by bajs11
Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:02 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Chinese J-16 cut across RAAF P-8A Poseidon
Replies: 80
Views: 5551

Re: Chinese J-16 cut across RAAF P-8A Poseidon

We may have international rules for safe conduct, but I wonder what the reaction of the US would be if a nuclear armed Chinese carrier battle groups and air wings carried out "freedom of navigation" exercises in the Gulf of Mexico, or sailed a fleet in the Florida Straits? At least the US...

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by bajs11
Wed May 11, 2022 6:45 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Second tier advanced fighter projects news and discussion
Replies: 287
Views: 77593

Re: Second tier advanced fighter projects news and discussion

F-35 for India? In view of recent events, you must be joking. India has just shown itself to be a Russian sycophant. Politics is such a fickle beast. Does that mean that UAE who also abstained, will not get their F-35? And China abstained when you would think they would vote no. With Russia holding...

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by bajs11
Wed May 11, 2022 6:24 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: What would you have spent the B-2 money on?
Replies: 108
Views: 5869

Re: What would you have spent the B-2 money on?

heh if they knew back in late 70s and early 80s that the USSR would collapse in 10 years then surely would also know that about 20 yrs a certain Saudi billionaire would fly jets into the two towers and Pentagon, right? If you are criticizing the B-2 as a total waste of money then what about the Stra...

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by bajs11
Thu May 05, 2022 7:56 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: USAF High-Speed VTOL program
Replies: 32
Views: 3464

Re: USAF High-Speed VTOL program

It seems China also has a high speed VTOL program. China's helicopter makers have reportedly conducted test flights for at least two types of helicopters with innovative designs: one is a blended-wing body multi-rotor vertical takeoff and landing aircraft, the other is a helicopter with a completel...

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by bajs11
Sun Apr 03, 2022 8:23 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 971
Views: 134445

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread

https://youtu.be/Wl21IU8jrh8

It shows whats left of the An-225 Mriya :(
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not sure if anyone has posted this video
https://youtu.be/Wl21IU8jrh8

It shows whats left of the An-225 Mriya :(

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by bajs11
Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:43 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Turkey's new Aircraft Carrier with only drones
Replies: 27
Views: 4107

Re: Turkey's new Aircraft Carrier with only drones

well they said in the 70s that super carriers were vulnerable and obsolete because of Soviet missiles etc but what on earth are they going to do when fighting one or two near-peer or peer competitors in the Pacific? Which is more effective (and cost effective) between an F-35, an XB-47, and a Predat...

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by bajs11
Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:17 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Turkey's new Aircraft Carrier with only drones
Replies: 27
Views: 4107

Re: Turkey's new Aircraft Carrier with only drones

yes drones like the X-47B/C are the way of the future
not tiny short range 3K lb/1.3ton drones, those may have been super effective in a land war but try to use it against an enemy with relatively sophisticated navy and coastal defenses

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by bajs11
Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:22 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 971
Views: 134445

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread

Whatever happened to the Pershing Missiles? Were they really removed from the European continent? Remember the mass protests to have them removed. Their destruction, also of the SS-20’s, was not only monitored, including on the ground, by both sides, it was even televised! To the point about a need...

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by bajs11
Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:09 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Turkey's new Aircraft Carrier with only drones
Replies: 27
Views: 4107

Re: Turkey's new Aircraft Carrier with only drones

uh at 3000lbs/1362kg what kind of payloads are those drones able to carry?
Wouldn't it be better to buy used Harriers?
I am pretty sure even the first gen Harriers or yak-38 are more useful than those drones.

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by bajs11
Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:36 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Updated: Germany selects F-35 and Eurofighter Typhoon for Tornado replacement
Replies: 1808
Views: 284776

Re: Updated: Germany selects F-35 and Eurofighter Typhoon for Tornado replacement

I don't think anyone is doubting that FCAS will happen but 2040s is 20 years away and a lot can and will happen during that time. What do think will happen if the PRC decides to join the war and send equipment and soldiers to Europe? https://www.ft.com/content/30850470-8c8c-4b53-aa39-01497064a7b7 Th...

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by bajs11
Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:19 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 971
Views: 134445

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread

They were not 'got rid of', they were illegal under the 1987 INF Treaty where the USSR also had to get rid of it's SS-20's, the very reason the Pershing and Tomahawks were stationed in Europe in the first place. An offer NATO had on the table from the beginning of the announcement of their deployme...

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by bajs11
Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:40 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Lockheed Martin F-35 News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022
Replies: 18
Views: 6681

Re: Lockheed Martin F-35 News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022

as Greece is another IRIS-T user that will receive F-35s.

When did Greece order the F-35?
didnt they recently purchase a bunch of Rafael?

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by bajs11
Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:22 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 971
Views: 134445

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread

To appreciate what thepointblank is saying, you have to understand what a no-fly zone is: an explicit threat to shoot down someone’s aircraft if they violate a geographical line. In other words: a no-fly zone is a line in the sand. If you’re not cool with escalating a conflict by sending in ground ...

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by bajs11
Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:58 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Updated: Germany selects F-35 and Eurofighter Typhoon for Tornado replacement
Replies: 1808
Views: 284776

Re: Updated: Germany selects F-35 and Eurofighter Typhoon for Tornado replacement

Just saw this on DW news https://youtu.be/jKke0HZFwzk?t=854 In terms of feet size, where does 35 F-35A put the German Luftwaffe? Behind the RAAF? Yes. Finland ordered over 60, for comparison, and just behind the Belgians at 34. RAAF has 44 of 72 ordered, delivered. Likely, the Germans will decide th...

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by bajs11
Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:35 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Updated: Germany selects F-35 and Eurofighter Typhoon for Tornado replacement
Replies: 1808
Views: 284776

Re: Germany Tornado Replacement News and Discussion Thread

and his speech in English https://youtu.be/9_DMcayCtnA but it seems not everyone in the Bundestag agrees Actually the agreement was extremely broad. The AFD right wing Putin puppets and the Linkspartei (old kemlin puppets) are fishing for the same extreme right voters and so this was to be expected...

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by bajs11
Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:41 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Updated: Germany selects F-35 and Eurofighter Typhoon for Tornado replacement
Replies: 1808
Views: 284776

Re: Germany Tornado Replacement News and Discussion Thread

https://youtu.be/9_DMcayCtnA
but it seems not everyone in the Bundestag agrees
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and his speech in English
https://youtu.be/9_DMcayCtnA
but it seems not everyone in the Bundestag agrees

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by bajs11
Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:07 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 971
Views: 134445

Re: Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation

I do do not see Ukrainians as fanatics. I do not believe it is in their culture or history. I see it as more once the fighting dies down, could be days, could be weeks, but I don't see months, it will become like occupation of Eastern Europe post WWII. From a human life perspective that may be best...

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by bajs11
Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:13 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: New defence pact AUUKUS
Replies: 502
Views: 49982

Re: New defence pact AUUKUS

https://breakingdefense.com/2022/02/fra ... -sub-deal/

looks like France has singled out Australia as the main "bad guy"
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https://breakingdefense.com/2022/02/fra ... -sub-deal/

looks like France has singled out Australia as the main "bad guy"

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by bajs11
Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:41 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: NASA plans to de-orbit ISS in 2031
Replies: 60
Views: 5565

Re: NASA plans to de-orbit ISS in 2031

Presumably NASA has run this plan past the other international partners/owners of the ISS, with it being the INTERNATIONAL Space Station and all ? Russia has shown every sign of wanting out for some time, obviously events on Earth right now may affect that too, however it turns out. ESA are involve...

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by bajs11
Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:56 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 971
Views: 134445

Re: Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation

Not too surprising given the state of the Luftwaffe over the past 10 years but the Bundeswehr sounds like it is'stripped bare' and offers little real support per it's commander. https://twitter.com/tobiaschneider/status/1496759242786852871 Don't you think it would be more appropriate now to get ups...

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by bajs11
Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:37 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Updated: Canada picks F-35 as CF-18 fighter replacement
Replies: 484
Views: 116170

Re: Canada - Future Fighter Capability Project

Yeah, while they are at it they might as well also get some fast and awesome MIG-25s and TU-142 for maritime patrol you know because of the melting ice caps....

Seriously though, I hope what is happening in Eastern Europe now should make mr Trudeau stop hesitating like a teenager.

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by bajs11
Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:13 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: UAE Air Force orders 80 Rafales from France
Replies: 31
Views: 5267

Re: UAE Air Force orders 80 Rafales from France

Will the UAE actually order F-35 or is this a compensation for the AUUKUS? https://www.defensenews.com/global/mideast-africa/2021/12/03/france-signs-18b-weapons-deal-with-uae/ They offer a shot in the arm for France’s defense industry after the collapse of a $66 billion contract for Australia to buy...

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by bajs11
Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:07 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: New defence pact AUUKUS
Replies: 502
Views: 49982

Re: New defence pact AUUKUS

possibly related They offer a shot in the arm for France’s defense industry after the collapse of a $66 billion contract for Australia to buy 12 French submarines that ultimately went to the U.S. https://www.defensenews.com/global/mideast-africa/2021/12/03/france-signs-18b-weapons-deal-with-uae/ but...

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by bajs11
Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:42 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Updated: Canada picks F-35 as CF-18 fighter replacement
Replies: 484
Views: 116170

Re: Canada - Future Fighter Capability Project

A good thing is that the Norwegian budget and costs for F35 is public and can be found online. Here is an article about it, thoughts and comments? https://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/feature/216023/norwegian-defence-budget-reveals-real-f_35-costs-%3Ci%3E%28free-access%29%3C%C2%A7i%3E.htm...

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by bajs11
Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:23 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: China successful test of orbital hypersonic weapon
Replies: 53
Views: 5799

Re: China successful test of orbital hypersonic weapon

This should be considered as credible confirmation that it was indeed a FOBS with hypersonic glide vehicle and kind of confirmed what I implied about possible violation of the Outer Space Treaty. If that is the case then we may will see another 1st Cold War treaty being abandoned and a new space arm...

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by bajs11
Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:00 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: China successful test of orbital hypersonic weapon
Replies: 53
Views: 5799

Re: China successful test of orbital hypersonic weapon

https://breakingdefense.com/2021/10/hundreds-of-china-hypersonic-tests-vs-9-us-hyten-says-us-moves-too-slowly/ Hyten pointed to hypersonic technology as the “perfect example” of America’s acquisition problems. “We were developing hypersonics ahead of everybody in the world and the first test failed....

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by bajs11
Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:39 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: SLS / Orion - Tests, Launches, & Developments
Replies: 136
Views: 25149

Re: SLS / Orion - Tests, Launches, & Developments

Has the first flight of Artemis I been delayed and is now scheduled to be launched in January 2022? I guess it's still better than Boeing's "Starliner"... and way more complex No date set yet. First quarter of ‘22 seems likely. NASA tweeted that launch is now planned for Feb 2022. For all...

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by bajs11
Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:32 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: New defence pact AUUKUS
Replies: 502
Views: 49982

Re: New defence pact AUUKUS

https://breakingdefense.com/2021/11/aussies-to-pick-mature-nuke-sub-design-is-uks-astute-class-frontrunner/ According to this article Australia will likely get the British Astute class because One major reason to go with the British Astute instead of the American Virginia or Los Angeles classes is t...

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by bajs11
Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:19 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: China successful test of orbital hypersonic weapon
Replies: 53
Views: 5799

Re: China successful test of orbital hypersonic weapon

:ill: Y'all are making me think that Taiwan may be important enough for the US to fight a war over. :sorry: bt The Republic of China is way more important than it's electronics manufacturing industry. https://thediplomat.com/2015/05/taiwan-and-strategic-security/ When Japan bombed Pearl Harbor on D...

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by bajs11
Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:57 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: China successful test of orbital hypersonic weapon
Replies: 53
Views: 5799

Re: China successful test of orbital hypersonic weapon

Has anyone actually mentioned the fact that the glide vehicle is paired with a FOBS? A concept that was developed by the Soviets in the 60s and could potentially violate the Outer Space Treaty, I guess depending on if it completes an orbit around the earth or not. https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourw...

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by bajs11
Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:38 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: China successful test of orbital hypersonic weapon
Replies: 53
Views: 5799

Re: China successful test of orbital hypersonic weapon

SeamanBeaumont wrote:
Perhaps that doesn't matter to Chinese politicians...

of course not
There is a reason why some 40 million died between 1959 and 1961.
Khrushchev offered help but the great chairman turned him down while millions were dying.

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by bajs11
Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:12 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Lucy on its way to the Trojans
Replies: 5
Views: 954

Re: Lucy on its way to the Trojans

It got some impressive looking solar panels. https://www.space.com/nasa-lucy-asteroid-mission-launch-success The design is based on the same design that currently powers the InSight Mars lander, only much larger. The solar panels will provide about 500 watts of power while the spacecraft is flying p...

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by bajs11
Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:57 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: SLS / Orion - Tests, Launches, & Developments
Replies: 136
Views: 25149

Re: SLS / Orion - Tests, Launches, & Developments

Has the first flight of Artemis I been delayed and is now scheduled to be launched in January 2022?
I guess it's still better than Boeing's "Starliner"... and way more complex

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by bajs11
Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:41 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021
Replies: 82
Views: 17412

Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

They are increasing cooperation with their former enemy because some other nation decided to become the new Empire of Japan. kind of ironic isn't it? Japan has been a formal US ally for 70 years. Japan's post WW2 Constitution (drawn up by the Allies, principally the US who occupied it after the sur...

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by bajs11
Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:27 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021
Replies: 82
Views: 17412

Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

They are increasing cooperation with their former enemy because some other nation decided to become the new Empire of Japan.
kind of ironic isn't it?

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by bajs11
Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:07 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: New defence pact AUUKUS
Replies: 502
Views: 49982

Re: New defence pact AUUKUS

Yeah, that's what those optimistic neo-liberals thought in the 90s and early 2000s which is also the main reason behind the rise of the PRC. Look where we are now... Don't forget that the European countries had considerable economic ties before the WWII. or Australia which is a major trade partner o...

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by bajs11
Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:05 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: New defence pact AUUKUS
Replies: 502
Views: 49982

Re: New defence pact AUUKUS

Unfortunately there are people in the West who still believe in a benign PRC and everyone should allow it to occupy islands in the West Pacific, crush student protests in HK, kill dozens of Indian soldiers in border clashes, keep threatening to invade neighboring countries etc. An arms race is exac...

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by bajs11
Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:49 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: New defence pact AUUKUS
Replies: 502
Views: 49982

Re: New defence pact AUUKUS

What's the difference between China pushing its weight around and the US pushing its weight around, both do it, what makes the US right and the Chinese wrong? When was the last time China started a war which lead to millions of deaths and the destabilisation of the middle east for 20 years and coun...

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by bajs11
Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:46 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: New defence pact AUUKUS
Replies: 502
Views: 49982

Re: New defence pact AUUKUS

considering the USN may not even have enough ships to counter the PRC and its allies. That is why the US is leaning in to its allies. As for the Chinese, what allies? Third point. Statistics may be used to inflate capacity. What is the nature of those Chinese ships and their capacity to operate in ...

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by bajs11
Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:56 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: New defence pact AUUKUS
Replies: 502
Views: 49982

Re: New defence pact AUUKUS

Yes, that's pretty much what the French want especially now that the UK has left the EU. Get rid of NATO and US of A and become the new dominant power in Europe https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-redraws-eu-alliances-coalitions-stop-france-and-germany-deeper-integration/ https://www.politico.eu/...

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by bajs11
Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:25 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: New defence pact AUUKUS
Replies: 502
Views: 49982

Re: New defence pact AUUKUS

The RAN will need those VLS if they want to take out the increasing amount of military bases in the West Pacific especially if/when the RoC is invaded. Not necessarily. The purpose of an alliance is shared responsibility. So without VLS, the RAN can perform other duties and free up the USN to perfo...

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