Cancel the Max program, and focus on completing the backlog orders Without a new design in the works, that's not happening. The Transonic Truss Braced Wing demonstrator aircraft that might lead to a new generation narrow body is still at least 4 years away from flying. And Boeing needs to fix its p...
Jump to postThings are going from bad to worse for Boeing it seems.... :whistleblower: :duck: :tombstone: A former Boeing employee known for raising concerns about the firm's production standards has been found dead in the US.... https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68534703 Depends on whether or not his death is...
Jump to postYes Keesje. I miss his posts with all the graphics. Same. Haven't seen his posts in a long time. Hope all is good with him. He is alive and well posts on Leeham news comment section. Off topic but does anyone know why he's not posting in here at present? I miss his graphics too with the distinctive...
Jump to postCertification efforts of the -7 and -10 are proceeding and will eventually be completed. Calling for these 2 models to be cancelled now is not rational. Boeing might have made a bad call by not doing NSA instead of MAX but too much is now invested in MAX to just cancel the remaining two models. Thi...
Jump to postBoeing should consider leaving their Max lineup with the 737-8/9 and move on to something new. All the 737-7 & 737-10 should either get a 737-8/9 or move on. All their efforts for the 737 max need to be placed into the 777-9, Its time to put an end to the 737 era and get a new plane going. Anno...
Jump to postRJMAZ, thanks for the feedback. I wasn't even aware of the Japanese C-2, which shows I don't pay enough attention to worldwide military aircraft in general. I'll brush up on that airlifter; it sounds like it's a much more likely option per what you say here.
Jump to postConsidering the need to (eventually) replace both C-5 and C-17, and also the use of both for a lot of long-range TATL/TPAC missions (which the A400M isn't that good at), I'd expect the US to launch a dedicated new large airlifter program in 10 or 20 years. For the lower end, they can always buy mor...
Jump to postIf a phone call is not enough, and Kirby flew to Toulouse, something must be discussed in earnest. United CEO Scott Kirby flew to Toulouse recently to sound out the planemaker on a potential quid-quo-pro deal. https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2024-01-28/united-ceo-kickstarts-airbus-...
Jump to postAt the risk of showing my ignorance about the U.S. military procurement process, I'm wondering if the U.S. would ever consider adding A400M as a partial replacement for aging C-17s since that production line was shut down years ago. With ever strained R&D budgets being eaten up by inflation, I d...
Jump to postThis is over the top hyperbole, how in the world is United going to be "done with Boeing for the foreseeable future" , especially for narrow bodies? There is no volume alternative in narrow bodies available for at least 7 years, maybe longer. Now on widebodies United could change, there i...
Jump to postIt seems that Kirby doesn’t believe the Max10 is ever getting approved by the FAA. The chances of both the 7 and 10 being in service aircraft seems less likely each month. Airlines can’t be left waiting in perpetuity for a paper airplane. Boeing needs to deliver on their promises and stop moving th...
Jump to postIt seems some airlines didn't do (or follow) a proper risk assesment before commiting or doubling down on the MAX and it is going to bite them hard. The MAX carries so much liability since the two crashes that it should be a direct No Go in any purshase vetting process: - a certification nightmare ...
Jump to postIt seems some airlines didn't do (or follow) a proper risk assesment before commiting or doubling down on the MAX and it is going to bite them hard. The MAX carries so much liability since the two crashes that it should be a direct No Go in any purshase vetting process: - a certification nightmare ...
Jump to postIn just the past four years: -They’ve had to halt 787 deliveries twice over quality and production issues - Had to halt 737 MAX deliveries after a significant number or planes had improperly attached vertical stabilizers - Improper holes drilled into 737 MAX rear pressure bulkheads - Discovered and...
Jump to postDid Spirit drop the ball? Probably. On the other hand somebody paid a fee to have their child *delivered* and I am sorry but I have a problem with that. Yes, Spirit could have done better, but shipping your child as an unaccompanied minor strikes ne as problematic. What sort of family would even le...
Jump to postIf that 777-8 order is resulting in the thing actually being delivered I am going to eat my hat, a broad rimmed cowboy type all leather version that will take me a few days to swallow. Likely this is going to be unlikely (!?), and I will definitely not have to worry about potential stomach upsets f...
Jump to postAnd from 9 days ago, since I didn't see it posted in here, a pessimistic assessment of their operation by popular YouTube site Globe Trotting at Dj's Aviation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR5w-kNYWZw
Jump to postXB-1 Taxi Tests on 9/27/2023 - very short video clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMomuw5swxc
Jump to postAgreed but even though the tragedy began with airplane hijackings and the terror attack was perpetrated with airplanes, it might be more appropriate for this thread to be in the non-aviation forum, given the broad spectrum of the resulting events and fallout.
Jump to postWhich variant(s)? If it's in the link I don't see it. Can't read French.
Jump to postAnother update on the XB-1: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/b ... e26cc&ei=8
Jump to postAnyone suspect this Christopher Chung interviewed in the article is being fed a snow job by Boom when he discusses its plans for a factory in NC? He seems very positive about the economic benefits he expects it to bring to the state. https://leadershipnc.org/christopher-chung/
Jump to postFound this online; aware Simple Flying isn't highly regarded in here, nevertheless...https://simpleflying.com/north-carolina ... erfactory/
Jump to postShared to whom? How do we know they haven't shared info to airline decision makers? I don't think Boeing particularly cares about what us randos on a.net think about this nebulous "runway performance" metric (which many pilots have indicated on here that this is a meaningless metric anywa...
Jump to postFrom upthread "the Leap 1B" is more efficient in climb". That is a happy side effect of the 1A being too big to fit under the wing. If it translated into a substantial advantage Airbus would offer the 1B on the NEO. I don't think so. The Leap 1B is a bit lighter than the 1A and its s...
Jump to postI was an early proponent of a 9ER accompanying the 10, but they are just too close in capacity, they'd canalbalize each other without contributing in a meaningful way to the overall MAX sales picture. Meaningful way is delta between 10 sales lost to the 9, and the cost of providing the MAX 9 T.O.P....
Jump to postBut a -10 can't operate out of MDW which is one of WN's most important hubs. A potential -9ER with -10 landing gear should have field performance like a -8, but it could be configured with 200 seats and have the range for west coast to Hawaii routes while flying to all of WN's contiguous US destina...
Jump to postUnderstatement. Went sideways long ago. The thread was about 737 Max 9 and 737 Max 10 sales and what share Boeing has captured of the high capacity single aisle market. Somehow, it's evolved into how much does an XLR weigh for more than 1/3 of the posts? :stretch: The DAE transfer/acquisition of 64...
Jump to postThe article was from aviationA2Z and going thru my browser history, has been significantly changed. I dismissed it when I saw it because it was worse than something from Simple Flying. There are at least 550 XLR's on order. I was looking for the article that I had read about the A321Neo, LR and XLR...
Jump to postFor some reason, mean temps in northern New Jersey have stayed about the same (except for winters) since I was a kid. Climatologically, it's not bad here but too many other things about the state aren't good so I'll be moving out anyway in the next few years. Maybe Delaware will be better.
Jump to postHopefully orders for the -10 takeoff when it gains certification, moreso than when the 10 was announced. There are a lot of places around the globe with airline networks that don't need the range of the NEO that could use it. Range is only a problem if it ups the empty weight of the aircraft to ach...
Jump to postSurely a lot will depend on whether open rotor engines or even greater diameter GTF's prove to be the next generation's powerplants. In either case it will surely be increasingly difficult for the 737 airframe to accommodate them. If TTBW doesn't go ahead as hoped for, the 737 could possibly be re-...
Jump to postIt's maddeningly difficult to find reliable weight stats on the A321neo (standard version) vs. the 737-10. Wikipedia lists the A321neo at 110,500 lb OEW but doesn't list MAX 9 or 10 OEW, just the MAX 8 at 99,360 lbs. Simple Flying, another source that doesn't appear very reliable, lists the MAX 9 a...
Jump to postIsn't the Boeing TTBW prototype supposed to fly in 2028? It's a completely new design but it seems to just be a concept for now. In my opinion it could count as a clean sheet but I have not seen any airlines ordering it as a conventional airliner. It's not an airliner design program as of yet. The ...
Jump to postBecause this is A.net and fanbois who can enter here without paying anymore can use that as a stick to beat their lesser favourite OEM with. Weight is used as a proxy for efficiency because when all things are equal, its a really good proxy. In the case of the A35k vs the 778X all things are not eq...
Jump to postI can’t find the exact thread, but based on the 737 max 8 OEW, which is heavier then the A320neo, it was calculated that the 9 should be close to the A321neo. MTOW is related to capacity not OEW. A32x can carry more weight and further… Of course the MAX 8 is heavier than the A320neo, it’s bigger. M...
Jump to postThe MAX makes sense for an existing 737 operator, the XLR would open up a lot of new routes and so not surprising they'd be very strongly considering it. Also there are those of us who will not fly on a MAX if there are alternatives available. That's your prerogative but what's the point of bringin...
Jump to postThis thread has somehow begun to devolve into "A 737 MAX is a worse product than an A321neo" instead of a speculative thread about what narrowbody airliners El Al might order. Fanboyism is rearing its ugly head again and the Mods will step in if it continues. We need to stay on topic and ...
Jump to postOf course it can be disputed. The phrase clearly worse is utterly subjective and broad. It is meaningless. If I were to say the A350 is clearly worse than the 787 because the 787 has outsold it, would you support that statement? Both the A321Neo and the MAX 10 look like very good aircraft. But they...
Jump to postAll projections and estimations indicate that the MAX 10 will have less flexibility and as an overall product is lacking compared to the competition. Nothing has ever proven otherwise, and plenty has proven it so, not least of all what is being discussed above. 737-10 will be less capable overall a...
Jump to postYou can just look at orders to see it is clearly worse. Very hard to make any other statements when the one is currently flying and being delivered and the other is not yet certified so we don't have much information about it. So one is not flying yet and therefore it is clearly worse. Got it. :o A...
Jump to postSometime spolitics is more imporant than best plane. BMax10 is clearly worse than A321neo but this isnt about best plane, this is about politics. Lets see... Largely supposition on your part unless you can show a link that says politics is a determining factor in this case. If you mean that the A32...
Jump to postConcorde and LEGO aficionados, your ship is coming in! https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/lego-concorde-set-supersonic-jet?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Vertical+Aerospace+prototype+eVTOL+aircraft++crashes++%F0%9F%9B%AB&utm_campaign=AeroTime+News+%2F+August+10%2C...
Jump to postThis source also cites the Etihad 8 unit order as the only remaining 777-8 passenger model remaining on the books. Disregard the rest of the article that talks about the MAX model order breakdown for this thread. https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/boei ... ling-jul23
Jump to postStill, more worthy than endless posts on the colour of the anti-corrosion protection on the fuselages of AI A350s, I'd have thought, though! Who knows, perhaps El Al will take the plunge this time, given that the market has decided that the A321 is the better product. I think they might well also, ...
Jump to postThese are relics. So are the articles, dating back to the MCAS crisis and appearing to have more of a negative slant than an objective analysis. Anything more current on the FC computers? I provided a factual answer to a question and linked my sources. I don't believe Boeing has changed the FCCs bu...
Jump to postDoes anyone know what computers the MAX uses? I bet it isn’t that ancient. I believe the main MAX flight computers are Colins Aerospace FCC-730s, which use a pair of single-core, 16-bit Intel 80286 processors. The FCC-730 dates from 1996, while the 80286 dates from 1982! In modern computing terms, ...
Jump to posthttps://www.linkedin.com/posts/max-kingsley-jones-0b82a333_777x-boeing-activity-7093639545845334016-tnBP The non-recurring cost for development of the 777-8 will be substantially reduced due to common weight and configuration with the 777-8F because expensive certification analysis and testing will...
Jump to postIt certainly is difficult to find any specifications that give a valid one to one comparison. Wikipedia is only as good as whoever edits to make a contribution. We need a dedicated commercial aviation site that contains such data, otherwise this is an almost futile exercise too reliant on speculatio...
Jump to postI'm seeing a lot of comments about what the 737-10 isn't. but? I see no comments about what it does nor what it should do. Well? Here's what I would expect it to do. #1) fly US Transcon. Period! #2) fly trans-Atlantic from NYC/IAD to LHR or FRA. #3) Fly west coast to Hawaii.(preferrably) Honolulu a...
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