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by cloudy
Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:28 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Direct Reps Meet With Obama Re Ares
Replies: 10
Views: 4883

RE: Direct Reps Meet With Obama Re Ares

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by cloudy
Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:02 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Direct Reps Meet With Obama Re Ares
Replies: 10
Views: 4883

RE: Direct Reps Meet With Obama Re Ares

The thread title says that Direct reps met with Obama himself. The story says they met with transition team representatives. That is a big difference. The fact that Obama has delayed naming a new NASA administrator is telling - perhaps some people are telling him (correctly) that Ares I is a bad bet...

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by cloudy
Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:46 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Iraqi Air Force Wants Up To 90 F-16s
Replies: 74
Views: 31046

RE: Iraqi Air Force Wants Up To 90 F-16s

My guess is that the main purpose of these birds is to deter future insurgencies.

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by cloudy
Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:42 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: North Korean Missile Launch Will Have Consequences
Replies: 93
Views: 11037

RE: North Korean Missile Launch Will Have Consequences

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by cloudy
Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:52 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Chinese Missile To Destroy USN Carriers
Replies: 45
Views: 9862

RE: Chinese Missile To Destroy USN Carriers

Current balistic missile arn't any good at hitting moving targets, because the aim point is fixed at launch. One does not have to move far or fast to get out of the way. One needs to have a warhead that can maneuver in response to a target's motions. That may be possible with a ballistic missile, bu...

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by cloudy
Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:20 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Next Conflict Involving NATO/EU/US?
Replies: 32
Views: 9682

RE: Next Conflict Involving NATO/EU/US?

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by cloudy
Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:32 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Next Conflict Involving NATO/EU/US?
Replies: 32
Views: 9682

RE: Next Conflict Involving NATO/EU/US?

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by cloudy
Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:09 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: F-35 Combat Skills: "Between F-16 And F/A-18"
Replies: 22
Views: 20201

RE: F-35 Combat Skills: "Between F-16 And F/A-18"

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by cloudy
Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:58 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: F-35 Combat Skills: "Between F-16 And F/A-18"
Replies: 22
Views: 20201

RE: F-35 Combat Skills: "Between F-16 And F/A-18"

Dogfights happen, and long range missile duels also happen. These battles get the most attention because they are the most exiting. But these are not representative of most air-to-air engagements. Since World War I, air combat has changed a lot. But one thing hasn't changed - about 80% of planes sho...

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by cloudy
Sun Mar 01, 2009 2:26 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: CNN Slams F-22 As Waste Of Money
Replies: 46
Views: 13202

RE: CNN Slams F-22 As Waste Of Money

The F22 can do by itself all sorts of things that other aircraft need extensive support to do. It can also patrol a larger area and attack at shorter notice due to its supercruise ability. Publicly quoted cost figures usually include amortization of R&D. Take this out and the cost comparison with th...

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by cloudy
Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:07 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Accurate Predictions About The Shuttle - From 1980
Replies: 17
Views: 6053

RE: Accurate Predictions About The Shuttle - From 1980

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by cloudy
Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:41 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Accurate Predictions About The Shuttle - From 1980
Replies: 17
Views: 6053

Accurate Predictions About The Shuttle - From 1980

<a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/8004.easterbrook-fulltext.html" target=_blank>http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/fea...001/8004.easterbrook-fulltext.html</a> Nearly everything the author of the above piece warned about has actually happened. Well, we havn't had a return to laun...

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by cloudy
Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:22 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Usaf Chief: F-22s Are Needed, Defends Capabilties
Replies: 57
Views: 11645

RE: Usaf Chief: F-22s Are Needed, Defends Capabilties

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by cloudy
Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:29 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Large Part Of Russian MiG-29s In Bad State
Replies: 18
Views: 8343

RE: Large Part Of Russian MiG-29s In Bad State

During the cold war, the Soviets had a lot of stuff. Some of it was pretty good. Their problem was that they did not have a lot of the good stuff, and the stuff they did have a lot of was not very good. Russian aircraft are generally more durable in that they can do better in harsh conditions then w...

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by cloudy
Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:48 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Do Airliner With 2 Men Cockpit Really Need 2 Men?
Replies: 40
Views: 8567

RE: Do Airliner With 2 Men Cockpit Really Need 2 Men?

Any modern airliner can be flown by a single pilot. There are reasons, however, that this is not allowed in actual operations. Without two pilots there can be no CRM - <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockpit_Resource_Management." target=_blank>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockpit_Resource_Mana...

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by cloudy
Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:02 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Obama - Cut FY10 DoD Budget Over 10%
Replies: 74
Views: 13988

RE: Obama - Cut FY10 DoD Budget Over 10%

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by cloudy
Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:39 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Obama - Cut FY10 DoD Budget Over 10%
Replies: 74
Views: 13988

RE: Obama - Cut FY10 DoD Budget Over 10%

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by cloudy
Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:31 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: The Future Of Nasa Under Obama
Replies: 22
Views: 8945

RE: The Future Of Nasa Under Obama

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by cloudy
Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:42 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Will "Air Force Ones" Be Replaced With 748i?
Replies: 48
Views: 16160

RE: Will "Air Force Ones" Be Replaced With 748i?

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by cloudy
Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:05 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Do A & B Mixed Fleet Work Better Than All A Or B?
Replies: 17
Views: 4774

RE: Do A & B Mixed Fleet Work Better Than All A Or B?

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by cloudy
Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:55 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Is Aviation Becoming Safer?
Replies: 52
Views: 6092

RE: Is Aviation Becoming Safer?

Going from two pilots to one could be possible, but it has to be kept in mind that one of the big reasons airline travel is much safer than it used to be is CRM - <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crew_Resource_Management" target=_blank>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crew_Resource_Management</a> I...

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by cloudy
Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:06 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Australian Air Force Campaigns For 100 F-35s
Replies: 16
Views: 6395

RE: Australian Air Force Campaigns For 100 F-35s

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by cloudy
Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:28 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Falcon 9 First Stage Test
Replies: 12
Views: 4995

RE: Falcon 9 First Stage Test

I believe the difference is due to the difference between vacuum and sea level thrust.

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by cloudy
Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:39 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: How To Fight Pirates?
Replies: 60
Views: 8475

RE: How To Fight Pirates?

<a href="http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htseamo/articles/20081119.aspx" target=_blank>http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htseamo/articles/20081119.aspx</a> This seems like a good summary. The reason the problem has grown.... ....The pirates are smart enough to avoid major violence where possible, an...

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by cloudy
Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:11 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Beginning Of The End For Ares?
Replies: 20
Views: 7654

RE: Beginning Of The End For Ares?

There were people who liked Ares I when it was just going to be a 4 segment SRB with a modified SSME on the 2nd stage. It seems like the only people defending it now, however, are those with some sort of official stake in the program. Just about everyone who knows something and is able to speak free...

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by cloudy
Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:35 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Whats The Problem With The F-35 JSF?
Replies: 41
Views: 11048

RE: Whats The Problem With The F-35 JSF?

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by cloudy
Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:41 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Official STS-126 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread
Replies: 77
Views: 10290

RE: Official STS-126 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

It may be that no one is seriously interested shuttle operations beyond that neccesary to complete the ISS plus the Centrifuge Accomodation Module, etc. There is another possible reason congress put language into law that dissalows actions that would prevent the use of the shuttle after 2010. That w...

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by cloudy
Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:08 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: When Will Computers Take Over Pilots?
Replies: 298
Views: 14857

RE: When Will Computers Take Over Pilots?

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by cloudy
Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:01 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: How Do Missile Subs Launch Ballistic Missiles?
Replies: 46
Views: 32166

RE: How Do Missile Subs Launch Ballistic Missiles?

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by cloudy
Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:05 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: When Will Computers Take Over Pilots?
Replies: 298
Views: 14857

RE: When Will Computers Take Over Pilots?

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by cloudy
Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:15 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: When Will Computers Take Over Pilots?
Replies: 298
Views: 14857

RE: When Will Computers Take Over Pilots?

A computer is different from a human brain not only in degree, but in kind. A computer is no more a brain than a car is a plane. Brains can do what computers do, only it takes much longer and more errors are made. It is yet to be seen, and it is disputed, as to whether a computer program could ever ...

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by cloudy
Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:17 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Emdrive - China's Amazing New Rocket Motor!
Replies: 18
Views: 10504

RE: Emdrive - China's Amazing New Rocket Motor!

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by cloudy
Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:57 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: How Do Missile Subs Launch Ballistic Missiles?
Replies: 46
Views: 32166

RE: How Do Missile Subs Launch Ballistic Missiles?

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by cloudy
Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:50 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Space Shuttle Life To Be Extended?
Replies: 21
Views: 7507

RE: Space Shuttle Life To Be Extended?

How much redesign would be required to put the Orion on Delta <acronym title="Fuijan Airlines (China)">IV</acronym>? So far it has been designed with the assumption that Ares I would be the booster. If I recall correctly Delta <acronym title="Fuijan Airlines (China)">IV</acronym> would require some ...

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by cloudy
Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:29 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Space Shuttle Life To Be Extended?
Replies: 21
Views: 7507

RE: Space Shuttle Life To Be Extended?

The people who support Direct may be behind this, partly. They are desperate to stop Griffin from destroying the <acronym title="Ethiopian Airlines">ET</acronym> tooling and many other elements of the shuttle infrastructure that they need. If this is prohibited by congress as a way to hedge bets, th...

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by cloudy
Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:50 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: F-35B, Really Worth It?
Replies: 30
Views: 6108

RE: F-35B, Really Worth It?

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by cloudy
Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:30 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: USN To Build Only Two DDG 1000 Class Ships
Replies: 107
Views: 19464

RE: USN To Build Only Two DDG 1000 Class Ships

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by cloudy
Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:16 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: F-35B, Really Worth It?
Replies: 30
Views: 6108

RE: F-35B, Really Worth It?

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by cloudy
Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:45 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russia Rebuilding Its Military - Weakens Russia?
Replies: 29
Views: 5251

RE: Russia Rebuilding Its Military - Weakens Russia?

The problem with Russia now is the same as it has been for the Middle East for the long time - energy wealth is making it easier to live with all the white collar crime and corruption that has infested their society for almost a lifetime. They simply don't have to fix it, so they don't. To produce w...

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by cloudy
Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:17 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russia To Build 6 New Aircraft Carriers
Replies: 156
Views: 21820

RE: Russia To Build 6 New Aircraft Carriers

One other thought..... If the Russians have six battlegroups in the time leading up to war, they can send 2-3 of them to areas where the US is not as likely to have tracking assets. This would allow them to keep at least one near the main battle area. When the war starts, they attack recon assets - ...

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by cloudy
Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:35 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Ares V Redesign
Replies: 41
Views: 4981

RE: Ares V Redesign

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by cloudy
Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:20 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russia To Build 6 New Aircraft Carriers
Replies: 156
Views: 21820

RE: Russia To Build 6 New Aircraft Carriers

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by cloudy
Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:40 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russia To Build 6 New Aircraft Carriers
Replies: 156
Views: 21820

RE: Russia To Build 6 New Aircraft Carriers

Last time I mentioned this the reaction I got was akin to that one would get after publishing a picture of Mohammed making a bowel movement.....but...... If the Russians did this they would be making a big bet that the aircraft carrier will be the best way to project power from the sea for the next ...

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by cloudy
Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:03 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Are US Military A/c Allowed To Transit Taipei FIR?
Replies: 6
Views: 5816

RE: Are US Military A/c Allowed To Transit Taipei FIR?

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by cloudy
Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:06 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Ares V Redesign
Replies: 41
Views: 4981

RE: Ares V Redesign

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by cloudy
Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:57 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Ares V Redesign
Replies: 41
Views: 4981

RE: Ares V Redesign

Probably, Ares will be canceled by congress at the behest of the next administrator. The only chance I see for the Ares I to survive is for Griffin to be reappointed by the next administration. What would come after is anybody's guess - my guess is it will be something enough like Direct to get its ...

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by cloudy
Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:27 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: "Alternate" To The Ares Rocket System?
Replies: 36
Views: 6835

RE: "Alternate" To The Ares Rocket System?

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by cloudy
Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:14 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Moon-walker Claims Alien Contact Cover-up
Replies: 36
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RE: Moon-walker Claims Alien Contact Cover-up

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