It is only “most likely” by those who are blind Boeing fans. There was no medical history of mental illness with the pilot, unlike germanwings. This actually happened to a 777 on the ground http://avherald.com/h?article=44078aa7/0000 what do you think the result would be if that happened in the air...Jump to post
opticalilyushin wrote:Would anyone know which of the Qantas 747s will be doing the final enthusiast flight on the 17th from MEL-SYD? I suspect quite a few people on these forums may be on it?
United787 wrote:I will NEVER let my family fly the MAX, regardless of how this turns out.
pasen wrote:I guess, this puts the whole discussion about those “badly trained 3rd world pilots” into different light.
LOL, a guy who has drank so much of Boeing's kool-Aid that he ordered 200 MAXes after the grounding! Hmm, maybe because by the time they arrive the MAX will have been back in service for well over a year. Also who cares about drinking Kool-Aid? That product has never been involved with anything bad...Jump to post
[quote="airhansa" I suggested that a cargo fire could be one of the few suggestions that would allow for a fire so large which no one noticed for so long. Also for communications to be lost the fire would have had to have been well into the fuselage hull. The rapidness of the fire may sugg...Jump to post
Anyone remember that plane at the gate in ChiNa which rapidly burned from the cargo hold straight up through the top? Right behind the cockpit? As mentioned above numerous times that fire only started when the aircraft was on the ground, the fuel flow from the leaking tank dripped on the exhaust of...Jump to post
Why is this any different from a massive uncontained engine failure? It's different because every other uncontained engine failure incident has had crew communications and or radar showing a non-normal flight profile. Of course that doesn't mean it can't have been that but it makes it less likely f...Jump to post
I'm more inclined to believe it today than I did yesterday I think most people assumed missile yesterday but are having second thoughts today Second thoughts? I'd like to see a straw poll of people who think it was missile/bomb or aircraft related. As for the article this is what it said regarding ...Jump to post
THE plane that crashed in Iran in the early hours of yesterday morning was brought down by a malfunction and not shot out of the sky, Western intelligence sources have claimed. http://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10703382/iran-crash-western-spies-malfunction-blame-shot-sky/ Lol. I don't think anyone belie...Jump to post
Hmm so if this isn't a missile strike, maybe it's a ultra rare kind of malfunction. Sorry no one has ruled out a missile strike, furthermore no matter what anyone says on here the chances of it being a missile strike or some kind of foul play (intentional or not) are far greater than a malfunction....Jump to post
yurieu wrote:Hmm so if this isn't a missile strike, maybe it's a ultra rare kind of malfunction.
The aircraft landed and had 3 hours on the ground before setting off and we know it was approximately 1 hour delayed leaving. Given there was very little traffic early morning, so unlikely delayed due to congestion, it would indicate a technical issue that needed attention. It's quite possible that...Jump to post
Some human error. A screw driver forgotten in the engine ? The problem with these types of theories is what sort of human error could cause this type of fire and how did it escalate so quickly that it fell out of the sky in a minute. Obviously not saying it’s impossible but it’s hard to connect the...Jump to post
Jomar777 wrote:At present, it seems very clear that it is a tecnical fault (probably electric) maybe allied to fuel spillage which triggered an explosion. There are different similar cases that could highlight that in history..
What are some factors/evidence so far that either support or refute the engine failure theory? ADS-B data completely normal until loss of contact I will caution that the FR24 non-granular plots use sparse data points that are smoothed out, which can be extremely misleading because it looks very smo...Jump to post
What are some factors/evidence so far that either support or refute the engine failure theory? I can't see anything supporting an engine failure theory. No mention from the crew, ADS-B data completely normal until loss of contact, fire progressing so rapidly it essentially falls out of the sky with...Jump to post
Likewise firing a missile to hit the aircraft so close to takeoff would mean it would have been launched from a populated area, it would be heard and felt by many. Not necessarily true, especially with the circumstances that transpired in the hours before. Also did many people hear and feel the DHL...Jump to post
If a three year old 738 crashed due to engine malfunction Boeing/CFM is gonna be in a world of hurt. I've just said in the Boeing thread fingers crossed nothing in this crash can lead to normal 737s to be grounded at same time as Max There is a 99.9% chance that 1. this has nothing to do with Boein...Jump to post
Does anyone have a list of incidents where fire led to a commercial aircraft falling out of the sky within minutes? Valujet 592, Swissair 330 Thanks, Swissair 330 was a terrorist bombing so we'll put that to one side for now, Valujet 592 disappeared from radar nine minutes after take-off so a few m...Jump to post
View AUI752 on the FlightAware website - http://flightaware.com/live/flight/id/AUI752-1578275100-schedule-0000 Well this is eerie for sure What's eerie? It also has full tracking stopping at approx 8000tft. It clearly says "estimate" for its current location which is normal for FlightAwar...Jump to post
Engine fire possibly. RIP to the passengers and crew. :tombstone: Looking at the early ADS-B data it would have to been a fire that escalated extremely quickly as the flight looks very normal up until contact is lost. Yeah, one of the wings was probably fully engulfed. It’s tragic. Yep pretty hard ...Jump to post
Lots of well deserved enthusiasm over the arrival of the Coulson 737 Air Tanker in Sydney Australia. This joins a handful of other smaller regional size firefighting aircraft from the USA. But where is the DC-10 and 747????? Im also confused as the article titles the others as Large Air Tankers... ...Jump to post
I assume it is still in Boeing House Colors? Yes, it wasnt in there for paint What was it for then? A paint job doesn't necessarily mean livery change. Could it be just (re)paint of some patches? Is there no space left in the area to do things such they have been obliged to use a paint hangar? This...Jump to post
There are still enough Classic 737's out there that would make it viable to have them retrofitted. There are still 732's out in Hawaii that are ADS-B compliant. WN had their -300's compliant years ago. There's no reason why Bahamas Air couldn't do the same. The airline is flying a type of aircraft ...Jump to post
Talking to a few friends recently and they seem to recall that in the early 80s an Olympic Airways flight from Athens made a belly landing in Cyprus with no loss of life. I can't find any reference to it online and was wondering if anyone had any info on it. Perhaps they are miss remembering another...Jump to post
Quite to the contrary, I believe a clean sheet 737 replacement is the only way out for Boeing. But it will be an uphill struggle. The damage has already been dealt, Boeing will be on the backfoot for decades. Wow, there really are some delusional people on here. I guess it's expected on an online f...Jump to post
It would be hard to prove it was delivered on a particular aircraft with out the part records. Items like this could have been installed on various aircraft during service. Most airlines will swap out the panel if there is a problem with any of the components on the panel. The panel then goes to a ...Jump to post
Many years ago I bought a whole bunch of aircraft parts online including this air conditioning control panel taken from N474EV and when I did little research I discovered it was actually the 4th 747 built and was part of the test program before being delivered to Pan Am as N731PA. I was wondering if...Jump to post
This latest revelation unfortunately adds me to the list of people who will never fly on a MAX. Thanks for letting us know, the rest of the public will have no issue flying on a jet that has been put through more safety tests than any other in history. I cannot believe there are people posting on h...Jump to post
a36001 wrote:Though I thought the glimpse of the tail the roo looked like the 1984 roo. If it’s the V-Jet it will complete the series of retro roo’s. That being 50’s 60’s and 70’s.
Nothing to see here, folks. Just more attention seeking from the QF marketing machine. SQ and others have been operating 19+ hr flights for many years. If QF needs to 'study' the effects of such long flights there should be plenty of real life data. No, this is just buzz inducing attention seeking....Jump to post
I wonder how much of the max backlog will actually ever be produced and/or delivered? In my opinion which of course is meaningless I would guess around 80% of the backlog will be produced plus of course there will be many more orders in the coming years. The people who think that MAX won't fly comm...Jump to post
I know I am not going to feel comfortable putting myself or a family member on a 737 Max until they absolutely have figured out what's going on. And at the rate this is going, all but guaranteed, there will be another 737 Max crash within months. WOW! "All but guaranteed" and what is your...Jump to post
YoungDon wrote:Given what we know right now, folks choosing to avoid the max is totally justified.
People choosing to avoid the MAX is neither idiotic nor a total overreaction. On the contrary, given the two crashes with some surface similarities in such a short time frame, and without much to go on to assuage their fears, avoiding the MAX seems completely rational on a personal level. The incid...Jump to post
For the people saying that they will avoid the MAX at all costs, this is just plain idiotic and a total overreaction.
There is ZERO evidence connecting this incident to the Lion Air incident. Until further information comes to light there is no reason to suggest that they are related.
MrBren wrote:Time to ground all 737MAX, too many casualties.