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by enterusername
Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Avelo Airlines News and Discussion - 2024
Replies: 548
Views: 55689

Re: Avelo Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

AVELO put's their service to LAN and AZO service to MCO on hiatus ... airports hoping they will be back https://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/2024/04/airline-drops-kalamazoo-direct-flights-to-florida.html It's a seasonal route and always has been, this was totally expected and planned. Slow news day...

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by enterusername
Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Spirit to close ACY base, open new Northeast Base
Replies: 58
Views: 8099

Re: Spirit to close ACY base, open new Northeast Base

Oh yes, swoop into that highly lucrative ACY market. You have a lot of the wealthiest municipalities in the nation within an hour and a half of ACY, many of which would prefer to avoid EWR if at all possible. Funny thing is, they'd prefer to avoid Atlantic City, too. Yeah that is someone that doesn...

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by enterusername
Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW/DAL) Aviation - 2024
Replies: 95
Views: 10317

Re: Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW/DAL) Aviation - 2024

Just to add to it, DFW's current largest unserved international markets are HYD, BOM, DEL, BLR, MAA, and SGN in that order. VERY India heavy. You can thank Plano and Irving for that one. There's places in the metroplex that are 95%+ Indian in population, and growing every day. Once Russian overflig...

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by enterusername
Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Breeze Airways News and Discussion - 2024
Replies: 392
Views: 49326

Re: Breeze Airways News and Discussion - 2024

I was just using the total amount that travel to Southern California. The airport listed a true PDEW of 60 for the airport to the LA Basin which is LAX/SNA/ONT and that's OK with me. There's not many places that use an airport that is 2-3 hour drive and call that part of the same catchment area lik...

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by enterusername
Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 15 years ago European legacies were struggling. What happened?
Replies: 29
Views: 5059

Re: 15 years ago European legacies were struggling. What happened?

Cabins were redesigned to carry more seats (lowering the cost per seat), the number of flights per plane was increased to spread the cost over more flights et cetera. In other words: they looked at the competition and adjusted appropriately. Actually that is not accurate at all. Most of the premium...

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by enterusername
Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 15 years ago European legacies were struggling. What happened?
Replies: 29
Views: 5059

Re: 15 years ago European legacies were struggling. What happened?

Cabins were redesigned to carry more seats (lowering the cost per seat), the number of flights per plane was increased to spread the cost over more flights et cetera. In other words: they looked at the competition and adjusted appropriately. Actually that is not accurate at all. Most of the premium...

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by enterusername
Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: St. Louis Aviation - 2024
Replies: 342
Views: 32276

Re: St. Louis Aviation - 2024

February numbers for STL Nice jump over last February. Passed the 15 mil passenger mark over the last 12 months! Hit 1 million passengers each of the last 12 months. Up 9.6% vs Feb 2023 Up 7.5% YTD vs 2023 Down 2.1% vs FEB 2019 Down 4.9% YTD vs 2019 Passengers last 12 months: 15,029,593 https://www...

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by enterusername
Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Breeze Airways News and Discussion - 2024
Replies: 392
Views: 49326

Re: Breeze Airways News and Discussion - 2024

I doubt any new route out of JFK, DCA or LGA has any incentives attached to them from those facilities ... If you can learn to read, I said very specifically on one end or the other. And yes, I would be utterly dumbfounded if you could find a new route to JFK, DCA or LGA that didnt have an incentiv...

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by enterusername
Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Breeze Airways News and Discussion - 2024
Replies: 392
Views: 49326

Re: Breeze Airways News and Discussion - 2024

It is. All of breeze's new cities have incentives I mean, at this point in the Air Service Development cycle, there's virtually no route anywhere in the world that is launched without an incentive. Incentives can run from basic marketing dollars to fee waivers to full blown cash subsidies/MRGs. But...

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by enterusername
Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Breeze starting BGR, DFW, LNS, LAN, PNS
Replies: 58
Views: 5771

Re: Breeze starting BGR, DFW, LNS, LAN, PNS

There are a few more markets not currently served nonstop out of the DFW/DAL market on WN, F9, or NK that can likely support MX nonstop service out of DFW such as BDL and RIC. Both BDL and RIC are also in the top remaining domestic markets traveled from DFW/DAL that don't currently have any nonstop...

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by enterusername
Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rest of Pennsylvania Aviation - 2024
Replies: 81
Views: 5266

Re: Rest of Pennsylvania Aviation - 2024

Ishrion reports that Breeze is moving into LNS with a route to MCO. Meanwhile, AVP gains RSW as its second destination with Breeze. https://twitter.com/IshrionA/status/1772502756688839026 (Ishrion's reply to the original tweet has the AVP news) While that's a big land for LNS, that could void its e...

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by enterusername
Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Avelo Airlines News and Discussion - 2024
Replies: 548
Views: 55689

Re: Avelo Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

Yes, the biggest question is whether this can succeed as a year-round service. The TVC is listed as Seasonal from HVN even though that was not explicitly stated in the announcement. HVN to BNA is now year round, by the way. At some point recently, Avelo updated their route map with an option to see...

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by enterusername
Mon Mar 25, 2024 6:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Avelo Airlines News and Discussion - 2024
Replies: 548
Views: 55689

Re: Avelo Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

Seems like every route is seasonal with Avelo. Sad. Why is that sad? They are a leisure airline and they are looking for underserved markets. The reality is, most of these small markets (CWA, DBQ, AZO, etc) just cant support service year-round to many destinations with the size of aircraft they are...

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by enterusername
Mon Mar 25, 2024 6:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Pacific Airlines News and Discussion - 2024
Replies: 137
Views: 15830

Re: New Pacific Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

Unconfirmed rumor is they figured out they can make money faster by doing charter flights This information came from a NP employee on an FB posting. I mean they certainly would lose less money taking a pile of it and lighting in on fire than scheduled service with their business model. Charter work...

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by enterusername
Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Avelo Airlines News and Discussion - 2024
Replies: 548
Views: 55689

Re: Avelo Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

HVN-TVC 1x/week. That's... puzzling? for about 3 months/year TVC can handle anything thrown at it. TVC attracts rich people. Turns out there's a lot of rich people around HVN. It's a whole lot of airplane from an unknown area, but if it can survive the first year, I bet it will be a wild success th...

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by enterusername
Mon Mar 04, 2024 5:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA orders 85 Airbus A321neo, 85 Boeing 737 MAX 10 and 90 Embraer E175 aircraft
Replies: 260
Views: 30368

Re: AA Aircraft Order Coming - Return of the A350?

I’m sure this order was negotiated well in advance, but it’s frustrating to see a huge purchase for the MAX 10 given all the issues with the MAX/Boeing right now. Also, in regards to increasing FC on the A319s and A320s. The A319 I can understand (elites rejoice!), but c’mon the A320?! Those things...

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by enterusername
Mon Mar 04, 2024 5:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA orders 85 Airbus A321neo, 85 Boeing 737 MAX 10 and 90 Embraer E175 aircraft
Replies: 260
Views: 30368

Re: AA orders 85 Airbus A321neo, 85 Boeing 737 MAX 10 and 90 Embraer E175 aircraft

Why would they order the E1 instead of the E2? Scope. The E2 is still too chunky to keep under the scope weight limits. Interestingly, with 90 new E175s, we know that AA is going to be using these 170 mainline aircraft for a MINIMUM of a 120 new aircraft growth for narrowbodies, since AA's scope re...

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by enterusername
Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pilot protesting single pilot operations
Replies: 197
Views: 10634

Re: Pilot protesting single pilot operations

So the answer to that would be no pilots. If it’s all pilot error the last thing you want is 1 pilot. Yeah holy hell, I'd definitely prefer to go from 2 pilots to ZERO pilots before I go from 2 pilots to 1. During normal operations, a single pilot is fine, but when an emergency arises, the last you...

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by enterusername
Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Avelo Airlines News and Discussion - 2024
Replies: 548
Views: 55689

Re: Avelo Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

Just looked up the pax count for SLE for October on Avelo. It looks like an average 82% load factor between BUR and LAS. Where did you find that? T100 for October is out. SLE had 90.7% LF to Burbank on 8 roundtrips and LAS had 65.9% LF on 7 roundtrips. But there's no way of knowing what the PRASM o...

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by enterusername
Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network - 2024
Replies: 1149
Views: 153455

Re: American Airlines Network - 2024

With AA adding DFW-BNE with QF and about to add JFK-HND realistically the only missing piece is DFW-HKG coming back. The issue they had with that was the time the aircraft spent on the ground in HKG without it linking into something like a LAX-HKG service. Not sure if the likely profitable DFW serv...

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by enterusername
Mon Feb 05, 2024 3:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Eagle News and Discussion - 2024
Replies: 114
Views: 14740

Re: American Eagle News and Discussion - 2024

When AA brought on ZW was it for ORD ops only? If so, it appears ZW has expanded to PHL as well! Just at a glance they flew PHL-CAE and PHL-SCE. They’ll probably run those ragged 200s til they fall apart! No it was brought in for combination of PHL and ORD... much to the chagrin of any markets in P...

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by enterusername
Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United States Essential Air Service (EAS) News and Discussion - 2024
Replies: 277
Views: 27697

Re: United States Essential Air Service (EAS) News and Discussion - 2024

If Contour and American were codesharing...the Contour flight would show as American Eagle Operated by Contour, and I would be able to book it under one PNR, I would be able to select my seat assignments on Contour through American's Website etc etc. That is not correct. That would be a DBA agreeme...

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by enterusername
Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Fleet - 2024
Replies: 310
Views: 37653

Re: American Airlines Fleet - 2024

Willing to bet AA brings screens back before the end of the decade. Not with the current management. They have clearly shown they're not into reinforcing the brand. Management won't even bring back BOB (other than junk snacks of flights over 1,500 miles). The funny thing is I, and a lot of people, ...

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by enterusername
Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Spirit Airlines News and Discussion - 2024
Replies: 213
Views: 26114

Re: Spirit Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

Certainly times have changed as shown in a previous post in regards to the current flying climate, but I don’t think in an economic downturn people will be paying a lot for airfare tickets, and regardless of downturns or not people will always fly. It depends on the type of downturn. The downturn i...

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by enterusername
Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Mesa Faces Threat of Stock Being Delisted
Replies: 47
Views: 8219

Re: Mesa Faces Threat of Stock Being Delisted

The ExpressJet-CommutAir shift happened two years ago, not seven. Um amazingly, it didnt. ExpressJet's initial movement of aircraft to Commutair started on November 9, 2015 when they announced the initial ERJ-145XR growth with UA, and initial flying began July 2016 which removed those aircraft from...

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by enterusername
Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Mesa Faces Threat of Stock Being Delisted
Replies: 47
Views: 8219

Re: Mesa Faces Threat of Stock Being Delisted

The solution would be to shift Mesa's capacity to another operator. It's not something you can do overnight but its been done before, most recent I can remember being UA shifting ExpressJet capacity to CommutAir. UA bailed out EV a few times in its final years and even took a stake in them before e...

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by enterusername
Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Mesa Faces Threat of Stock Being Delisted
Replies: 47
Views: 8219

Re: Mesa Faces Threat of Stock Being Delisted

United agreeing, retro actively, to pay Mesa $63.5 million in higher CPA rates (as of October 1, 2023), or $50.8 million for the full calendar year 2024 (per the recent 10-Q), prove any supposed “wind down” between the two to be pie in the sky. This might just be a position of United wanting to kee...

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by enterusername
Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue Network - 2024
Replies: 753
Views: 91871

Re: JetBlue Network - 2024

Those are fast growing cities with relatively low competition. PHX and SLC are certainly the smaller hubs for AA and DL respectively. DL would eat them alive, although JetBlue does have historical ties to SLC with various corporate staff over the years based there, which has lead to lots of people ...

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by enterusername
Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue/Spirit Merger Discussion thread - 2024 (merger plans terminated as of March 4)
Replies: 708
Views: 73341

Re: JetBlue/Spirit Merger Discussion thread - 2024

Bankruptcy isn't in NK's near future, but without growth, it becomes tougher to compete, especially if another ULCC comes along with fresh staff (which means lower costs) The growth calculus is not that complicated either. There has been a trend for premium spending but it is not clear if it is per...

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by enterusername
Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Breeze Airways applies to FAA to fly A220s from US to Ireland
Replies: 93
Views: 15690

Re: Breeze Airways applies to FAA to fly A220s from US to Ireland

The economics of the A220 perhaps? I'm guessing you dont do much in terms of route level P&L and airline economics. While the A220 is "efficient" from a comparison to a A319CEO, it is still not cheap. It's going to likely cost $5500-$7000 per block hour for an A220. The BDL-DUB flight...

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by enterusername
Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue/Spirit Merger Discussion - 2023
Replies: 1081
Views: 228079

Re: JetBlue/Spirit Merger Discussion - 2023

I believe all of these DOJ Antitrust cases (NEa AND B6/NK) are propelled by Delta and their politicians on the payroll. Must protect the Boston hub. I've seen this throughout the Sherman Act enforcement by the DOJ. Whoever is pulling the strings. It's not just DL, although they are the biggest like...

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by enterusername
Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network - 2023
Replies: 4127
Views: 851095

Re: American Airlines Network - 2023

DFW-TVC on an A321 is nuts. That's a big airplane for that little airport. No doubt the demand is there, but it's a tight squeeze. UA operates 739s fairly frequently in the market, which is essentially the same size. TVC-DFW is a massive market that's growing fast, and super premium. in 3Q2022, DFW...

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by enterusername
Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Data Shows DL in SEA Worst Performing US Industry Hub
Replies: 124
Views: 20513

Re: Data Shows DL in SEA Worst Performing US Industry Hub

AA would lunge into SEA and replicate DL's pacific network with the AS feed if Delta ever left or shelved SEA. DL would never let that happen. Where would AA pull resources from to fund something like this? I don’t think AA or DL care about the TPAC market in the ways that UA does. I think both air...

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by enterusername
Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Data Shows DL in SEA Worst Performing US Industry Hub
Replies: 124
Views: 20513

Re: Data Shows DL in SEA Worst Performing US Industry Hub

Oh, I totally understand this. I wish the same sort of care you are taking here to highlight "variables" would have been taken in the initial "analysis". Being Delta's worst performing hub, isn't a death sentence. It's barely even news. Every airline has a "worst-performing...

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by enterusername
Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Data Shows DL in SEA Worst Performing US Industry Hub
Replies: 124
Views: 20513

Re: Data Shows DL in SEA Worst Performing US Industry Hub

To make my point even clearer, the #1 hub in the country based on Stage Length Adjusted PRASM is.....PHL. ALL this data shows is that Delta's other hubs are really strong. Which is evidenced by their overall performance. Alaska clearly makes strong profits at SEA, yet it UNDERPERFORMS Delta on the ...

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by enterusername
Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Data Shows DL in SEA Worst Performing US Industry Hub
Replies: 124
Views: 20513

Re: Data Shows DL in SEA Worst Performing US Industry Hub

Alaska has code share agreements with all non Sky Team airlines which is monopolistic and designed to stifle competition out of SEA. The DOJ should investigate Alaska's agreements with these carriers on antitrust grounds. This doesn't happen at any other US international gateway. Alaska should not ...

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by enterusername
Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network - 2023
Replies: 4127
Views: 851095

Re: American Airlines Network - 2023

I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but UA doesn’t seem to run a lot of widebodies between hubs. DL, on the other hand, does. DL also flies widebodies to some of their bigger Western stations from ATL, such as LAS and SAN, at least seasonally . Looking at December 1st, I see widebodies on ever...

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by enterusername
Thu Nov 02, 2023 3:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network - 2023
Replies: 4127
Views: 851095

Re: American Airlines Network - 2023

Given his in-depth knowledge of AA, perhaps 'alisizon' can answer this best? But anybody please chime in who knows (and I mean 'knows' not merely a.net armchair CEO'ing please)...I'm seeking a definitive answer, not speculation: Why does AA (and I suppose UA & DL too, but I'm just asking about ...

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by enterusername
Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Frontier's Transformation Plan 2024
Replies: 64
Views: 12377

Re: Frontier's Transformation Plan 2024

Yep, the "Chicago Isolation Schedule". Can't remember the exact year, but AA got burned with bad winter weather at ORD that wreaked havoc throughout the system. The next year, they decided to isolate ORD to minimize the possible damage to the integrity of the schedule. I actually worked o...

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by enterusername
Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PHL to allow non-travelers gate side
Replies: 55
Views: 9979

Re: PHL to allow non-travelers gate side

The program doesn't cost anything. And I can't imagine that many non-flyers are coming to the airport just to spend money at the airport. I'm guessing you dont have kids. Its not unreasonable at all to make a "afternoon" trip to the airport with young kids. Its exciting, cheap and another...

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by enterusername
Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Fleet - 2023
Replies: 981
Views: 179568

Re: American Airlines Fleet - 2023

Ok not happening, but one can dream. MRTC really did have the desired effect on me. I paid more to fly AA in those days, being 6'7", gladly so. It doesnt even need to be MRTC. But this bullshit of having 1 actual row of MCE on the A319, A320 and B738 needs to end. If you dont book a month or t...

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by enterusername
Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: F9 CEO Issues Financial Warning - Only US ULCCs Currently Affected
Replies: 164
Views: 27857

Re: F9 CEO Issues Financial Warning - Only US ULCCs Currently Affected

:wave: I've got my hand up. If you want to see my wife or me contort, mention Spirit Airlines :rotfl: She'd rather just stay home and that is saying a lot! Yup. Im what virtually everyone I know would call "frugal" in most of my life. I order on the dollar menu only at Taco Bell. I never ...

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by enterusername
Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network - 2023
Replies: 4127
Views: 851095

Re: American Airlines Network - 2023

IIRC 135 daily departures is the most AA ever had at JFK. Yes, Arpey and Parker shortsightedly cut .a lot of the Caribbean flying over the past 15 years (some of which has returned) and leased those slots to B6. AA could get those slots as soon as AA wishes to, and I'm sure AA will when the price i...

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by enterusername
Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 6 cities announced for Reno Air Races
Replies: 18
Views: 4125

Re: 6 cities announced for Reno Air Races

Newark727 wrote:
"Why not all six?" - FIFA, probably


As a football fan, that both is funny and hurts...

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by enterusername
Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: F9 CEO Issues Financial Warning - Only US ULCCs Currently Affected
Replies: 164
Views: 27857

Re: F9 CEO Issues Financial Warning - Only US ULCCs Currently Affected

I find it very odd that airlines which generally gave lower CASK / CASM are struggling while companies with a higher CASK / CASM are making money. Typically when times are tough such as rising interest rates, people choose cheaper ways of doing something - eg eating at cheaper restaurants instead o...

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by enterusername
Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Breeze Airways - News and Discussion - 2023
Replies: 1133
Views: 253767

Re: Breeze Airways - News and Discussion - 2023

Wrong again, CAK-BNA was one of MX top routes to BNA before Allegiant began to fly the route. Breeze discontinued all routes to BNA. So no, there is no MX CAK-BNA, the route is now served by Allegiant. Can you show me the LFs when MX CAK-BNA was doing well? WN does dominate this with daily frequenc...

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by enterusername
Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways News and Discussion - 2023
Replies: 1358
Views: 362159

Re: British Airways News and Discussion - 2023

BA's proposal for pilot pay has been released. Anecdotally it hasn't gone down well... https://news.sky.com/story/ba-on-brink-of-three-year-pilot-pay-deal-to-avert-threat-of-strike-12977429 Too bad this wouldnt fly, but the US Government should open up pilots as a work group that can be eligible fo...

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by enterusername
Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways News and Discussion - 2023
Replies: 1358
Views: 362159

Re: British Airways News and Discussion - 2023

BA's proposal for pilot pay has been released. Anecdotally it hasn't gone down well... https://news.sky.com/story/ba-on-brink-of-three-year-pilot-pay-deal-to-avert-threat-of-strike-12977429 Too bad this wouldnt fly, but the US Government should open up pilots as a work group that can be eligible fo...

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by enterusername
Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Breeze Airways - News and Discussion - 2023
Replies: 1133
Views: 253767

Re: Breeze Airways - News and Discussion - 2023

Breeze is seeing demand for travel this winter ‘soften’ according to Neeleman, who blames other airlines for expanding too fast post-COVID. Make of that what you will. https://skift.com/2023/09/27/breeze-airways-sees-softer-bookings-as-airline-growth-outpaces-fall-travel-demand/amp/ That is pretty ...

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by enterusername
Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network - 2023
Replies: 4127
Views: 851095

Re: American Airlines Network - 2023

As of right now any schedule after 11/4 is still subject to change. As you get closer the changes should be more minimal but the days of AA having their schedule set 11 months out are over. That is not real accurate. Based on crew bid timings, it would be highly unlikely that AA would be able to ch...

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