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by Cessna057
Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:06 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V32
Replies: 88
Views: 12799

RE: The Screenshot Thread V32

ZSOF, where did you get that jetwash you have for your 738? is it an addon or is it default with FSX?

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by Cessna057
Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:02 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: FS Freeware Concordes
Replies: 5
Views: 10518

RE: FS Freeware Concordes

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by Cessna057
Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:17 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V32
Replies: 88
Views: 12799

RE: The Screenshot Thread V32

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by Cessna057
Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:02 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Your Current FS Flights V9.
Replies: 129
Views: 11902

RE: Your Current FS Flights V9.

CO38
Newark - Olso
FL330
FALLZ EEN YGP

927 miles from Norways coast. This is an awsome flight...

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by Cessna057
Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:39 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V32
Replies: 88
Views: 12799

RE: The Screenshot Thread V32

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by Cessna057
Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:28 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V32
Replies: 88
Views: 12799

RE: The Screenshot Thread V32

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by Cessna057
Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:17 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V32
Replies: 88
Views: 12799

RE: The Screenshot Thread V32

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by Cessna057
Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:30 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V32
Replies: 88
Views: 12799

RE: The Screenshot Thread V32

Ok, just kind of an update, some of you know i've been working on <acronym title="Newark - Liberty International (EWR / KEWR), USA - New Jersey">EWR</acronym> scenery...It didnt end up going over too well. So I looked at the demo for Simflyers (great model, I know  <img src="/discussions/graphi...

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by Cessna057
Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:21 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V32
Replies: 88
Views: 12799

RE: The Screenshot Thread V32

I'm convinced ZSOFN discouraged everyone who was past participating in this thread to just like, stop flightsim all together. Thanks for showing me there is a much better simulator to the puiblic and just dangling it over my head. Nice pics btw ZSOFN, I'll add you to the hate list with the other Chr...

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by Cessna057
Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:20 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Editing Screenshots.....
Replies: 4
Views: 4336

RE: Editing Screenshots.....

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by Cessna057
Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:37 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Editing Screenshots.....
Replies: 4
Views: 4336

RE: Editing Screenshots.....

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by Cessna057
Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:09 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: FSX And Antialiasing: Just My PC Or Program Flaw?
Replies: 9
Views: 14452

RE: FSX And Antialiasing: Just My PC Or Program Flaw?

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by Cessna057
Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:32 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V32
Replies: 88
Views: 12799

RE: The Screenshot Thread V32

Lol good to see ya back Chris Last nights flight: Xiamen -> Hong Kong. <a href="http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/parothead314/3-6.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/parothead314/th_3-6.jpg" width="160" height="120" border=0></a> <a href="http://i17.photobucket....

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by Cessna057
Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:50 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V32
Replies: 88
Views: 12799

RE: The Screenshot Thread V32

I love how this thread is dead now that BAW aint here..

I'll upload some later tonight from some past flights..

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by Cessna057
Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:48 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Animated Pushback
Replies: 8
Views: 4072

RE: Animated Pushback

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by Cessna057
Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:48 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: FS Freeware Concordes
Replies: 5
Views: 10518

RE: FS Freeware Concordes

Mach 2 is the best probably.. website is http://projets.fsfrance.com/Mach2/Download.htm .

Hope this helps!
Chriss

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by Cessna057
Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:52 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V32
Replies: 88
Views: 12799

RE: The Screenshot Thread V32

Dont worry NW we all feel that way too. Nice pics though! like the reflections..

Chriss

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by Cessna057
Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:41 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Your Current FS Flights V9.
Replies: 129
Views: 11902

RE: Your Current FS Flights V9.

Flying heading 293 over the West Pacific enroute from GUM - <acronym title="CURRENT: Hong Kong - Chek Lap Kok International (HKG / VHHH), China - Hong Kong AND OLD: Hong Kong - Kai Tak International (HKG / VHHH) (closed), China - Hong Kong">HKG</acronym> as <acronym title="Continental Airlines (USA)...

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by Cessna057
Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:31 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V32
Replies: 88
Views: 12799

RE: The Screenshot Thread V32

Bro you render so well! I cant even touch that I have to angel the shots perfectly to get them to look semi - non retarded. I'm uploading some of a <acronym title="Cathay Pacific (China-Hong Kong)">CX</acronym> flight I did this afternoon. I hope you guys like the scenery. Its some new <acronym titl...

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by Cessna057
Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:30 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V32
Replies: 88
Views: 12799

RE: The Screenshot Thread V32

G*oddamn I hate you Chris

 Smile

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by Cessna057
Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:31 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Has This Ever Happened To You?
Replies: 10
Views: 8250

RE: Has This Ever Happened To You?

My binges are on long haul flights. I normaly do a flight a day, in the week when im bored after classes, normaly 2-3 hours in length. Every 2 weeks or so i run on nothing but redbull, cigs, and caffine, just flying long haul flights every night, finishing at 5-6 am, and then go to class. One week I...

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by Cessna057
Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:14 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V32
Replies: 88
Views: 12799

RE: The Screenshot Thread V32

FX143 Hilo -> Honolulu . . . The reflections on the engines are pretty cool. <a href="http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/parothead314/1-5.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/parothead314/th_1-5.jpg" width="160" height="120" border=0></a> <a href="http://i17.photob...

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by Cessna057
Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:00 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Your Current FS Flights V9.
Replies: 129
Views: 11902

RE: Your Current FS Flights V9.

Tradewinds 143 Hilo - Honolulu (maitnence flight)

Should take around 45 minutes (*long one i know)

Chriss

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by Cessna057
Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:14 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Your Current FS Flights V9.
Replies: 129
Views: 11902

RE: Your Current FS Flights V9.

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by Cessna057
Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:55 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Your Current FS Flights V9.
Replies: 129
Views: 11902

RE: Your Current FS Flights V9.

Parked at the gate

CA1296
WULUMUQI - BEIJING
0930 - 1255
Boeing 737-700 (2008 Olympics)

Pics in the Screen shot thread in about 4 hours..

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by Cessna057
Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:02 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V32
Replies: 88
Views: 12799

RE: The Screenshot Thread V32

Just finished, block time was 3.4 hours, sat in a holding for <acronym title="Atlanta - Hartsfield-Jackson International (The William B Hartsfield) (ATL / KATL), USA - Georgia">ATL</acronym> for a while.. DL765 <acronym title="Boston - General Edward Lawrence Logan International (BOS / KBOS), USA - ...

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by Cessna057
Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:25 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V32
Replies: 88
Views: 12799

RE: The Screenshot Thread V32

SWEET SHOT LTU.....What LAS and LAX scenery do you use??

Chriss

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by Cessna057
Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:54 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: 757 Or 321?
Replies: 14
Views: 3796

RE: 757 Or 321?

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by Cessna057
Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:55 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: 757 Or 321?
Replies: 14
Views: 3796

RE: 757 Or 321?

I think its not so much 321 vs 757 but instead the 321 vs. the 739... Theyr a bit more on the same level. In the 757 case, I really dont think that there is much competition against the 757. Not really sure about the 321 vs. the 739...

Chriss

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by Cessna057
Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:50 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Your Current FS Flights V9.
Replies: 129
Views: 11902

RE: Your Current FS Flights V9.

Sitting at the gate filling my flight plan. (Stealing LTU's layout) Airline: Delta Airlines Aircraft: Boeing 767-300ER Flight number: DL765 Departure Airport: Boston Logan (<acronym title="Boston - General Edward Lawrence Logan International (BOS / KBOS), USA - Massachusetts">BOS</acronym>) Destinat...

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by Cessna057
Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:23 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: JFK/EWR/MCO Scenery For FS2004?
Replies: 3
Views: 18117

RE: JFK/EWR/MCO Scenery For FS2004?

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by Cessna057
Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:42 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: JFK/EWR/MCO Scenery For FS2004?
Replies: 3
Views: 18117

RE: JFK/EWR/MCO Scenery For FS2004?

I cannot find anything for EWR. I'm building something for it right now, but its going to take some time. Its going on AVSIM when I'm finished


Chriss

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by Cessna057
Sun Mar 04, 2007 5:54 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V32
Replies: 88
Views: 12799

RE: The Screenshot Thread V32

Short flight today back in the 739ER. <acronym title="Boston - General Edward Lawrence Logan International (BOS / KBOS), USA - Massachusetts">BOS</acronym> - <acronym title="Newark - Liberty International (EWR / KEWR), USA - New Jersey">EWR</acronym>, original plan was to route <acronym title="Bosto...

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by Cessna057
Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:03 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Odd Sound Problem In FS2004.
Replies: 10
Views: 14168

RE: Odd Sound Problem In FS2004.

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by Cessna057
Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NY Airbus A380 Welcome Gathering
Replies: 29
Views: 9401

RE: NY Airbus A380 Welcome Gathering

I live in Jersey City. WILL BE THERE!!!!! Anyone else want to join?

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by Cessna057
Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:02 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Odd Sound Problem In FS2004.
Replies: 10
Views: 14168

RE: Odd Sound Problem In FS2004.

I dont assume its nav radio giving you the NAVAID morse sode identifier? It gives an odd signal which is kinda similar to a windows error message.

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by Cessna057
Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:43 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: How Long Does It Take Until Airlines Reply?
Replies: 26
Views: 8551

RE: How Long Does It Take Until Airlines Reply?

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by Cessna057
Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:17 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V31
Replies: 85
Views: 9018

RE: The Screenshot Thread V31

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by Cessna057
Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:01 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: How Long Does It Take Until Airlines Reply?
Replies: 26
Views: 8551

RE: How Long Does It Take Until Airlines Reply?

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by Cessna057
Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:41 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V31
Replies: 85
Views: 9018

RE: The Screenshot Thread V31

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by Cessna057
Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:52 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V31
Replies: 85
Views: 9018

RE: The Screenshot Thread V31

Flight from last night. CO39, <acronym title="Boston - General Edward Lawrence Logan International (BOS / KBOS), USA - Massachusetts">BOS</acronym> - <acronym title="Los Angeles - International (LAX / KLAX), USA - California">LAX</acronym>. Flight went terribly. Had to wait on the ramp for 40 minute...

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by Cessna057
Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:15 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V31
Replies: 85
Views: 9018

RE: The Screenshot Thread V31

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by Cessna057
Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:31 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V31
Replies: 85
Views: 9018

RE: The Screenshot Thread V31

Chris what SXM scenery do you use?

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by Cessna057
Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:18 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V31
Replies: 85
Views: 9018

RE: The Screenshot Thread V31

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by Cessna057
Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:45 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V31
Replies: 85
Views: 9018

RE: The Screenshot Thread V31

I vote V32 to be a competition  Smile

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by Cessna057
Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:36 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Your Current FS Flights V9.
Replies: 129
Views: 11902

RE: Your Current FS Flights V9.

Preparing for a fictional CO3398 <acronym title="Boston - General Edward Lawrence Logan International (BOS / KBOS), USA - Massachusetts">BOS</acronym> - <acronym title="Los Angeles - International (LAX / KLAX), USA - California">LAX</acronym>. flight times probably about 5 hours. Made some good scen...

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by Cessna057
Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:26 am
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Animated Pushback
Replies: 8
Views: 4072

RE: Animated Pushback

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by Cessna057
Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:56 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V31
Replies: 85
Views: 9018

RE: The Screenshot Thread V31

Thought I'd get out of the nice spacious glass panel metal cluncker and jump in a little proformance freak. Extra300 in Rotterdam proforming the pylon course (not exactly easy). The quality isnt the best, but I needed my framerates up to be able to get maneuver good enough to avoid death Time: 2:20 ...

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by Cessna057
Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:49 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V31
Replies: 85
Views: 9018

RE: The Screenshot Thread V31

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by Cessna057
Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:25 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: The Screenshot Thread V31
Replies: 85
Views: 9018

RE: The Screenshot Thread V31

Great shots so far..Keep em coming CO335 <acronym title="Houston - George Bush Intercontinental (IAH / KIAH), USA - Texas">IAH</acronym> - <acronym title="Boston - General Edward Lawrence Logan International (BOS / KBOS), USA - Massachusetts">BOS</acronym>. More of the 737-900ER. It was a really smo...

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