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by osiris30
Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

From the instagram video, it looks like the plane was either: A) On fire before the video started B) Was not on fire before as there is a large explosion mid-air If it’s B) This would suggest the plane was on fire for about 30 seconds before hitting the ground, and as its a rather shallow descent i...

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by osiris30
Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

From the instagram video, it looks like the plane was either: A) On fire before the video started B) Was not on fire before as there is a large explosion mid-air If it’s B) This would suggest the plane was on fire for about 30 seconds before hitting the ground, and as its a rather shallow descent i...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

Lot of details (warning some human remains) after 30 seconds in that video: https://cdn.isna.ir/d/2020/01/08/0/61535763.mp4 Look like a lot of peoples and efforts on the crash site. What strikes me is how large the debris field is... it seems much larger than I am used to seeing from accidents.

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

Reuters reporting that Western intelligence agencies see no signs Ukraine airliner was shot down, according to a Canadian security source https://www.reuters.com/article/iran-crash-canada-intelligence/western-intelligence-agencies-see-no-signs-ukraine-airliner-was-shot-down-canadian-source-idUSL1N2...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

Someone on Twiiter posted a picture of a Surface-to-air missile wreck, claiming it was taken from the crash site. Reverse search did not find any other similar images that were previously posted, so the image may be recent, but it has not yet been confirmed that it was taken near the crash site. ht...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

From Reuters:

MORE: Ukraine's embassy in Iran says any previous comments about the cause of the crash were not official

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

Reading through this thread reminds me that there are some very special people among our user base. I'm amazed that there are people that believe that the Iranians would intentionally shoot down an airliner less then 50km (!) from the capital's international airport! One that belongs to a country t...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

Ukraine reported that the crash had been caused by an engine failure rather than terrorism or a missile attack. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7863359/Ukrainian-passenger-plane-carrying-180-people-crashes-near-Tehran-local-media.html Higher ranking Ukranian officials have discredited that...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

Draken21fx wrote:
Thanks zeke and osiris30. Do we know the condition of them?

Does Iran have the capability of extracting the data?

In regards to weather I guess icing is excluded right?


Unknown to both 1 and 2, icing wasn't the issue, we have video of the plane going down on fire...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

Two stupid questions but I guess the black box has not been recovered yet cause we would have heard news of it. Also what was the weather at the time of the crash sub 0c? I know it is pretty chilly at the moment. Weather appears to have been fine. Iran reports recovering the black boxes as of 25-30...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

https://i.imgur.com/x0dbBvo.jpg Got a close up of that engine.The major hole is inconclusive because there's been impact damage.Some parts look turned in, some look turned out. There is a small hole where we have some metal peeled back (on the more silver band), again that peeling itself looks to b...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

If no communication was made before the crash, how can it be concluded that it was engine failure? How is this known? There is probably more known than is in the western press. If you cast your mind back to QF32 engine parts that landed in people’s homes in Batam were made known to the Indonesian a...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

People go on holiday in those numbers to Iran? They do happen. Some parts of Iran are quite peaceful and welcoming outside of Tehran. Not in those numbers from one country though surely? Very specialist place to visit for a holiday There is a fairly large Iranian Canadian population. It is possible...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

Would ADS-B not operate on battery in that event? Many airlines use the procedure to swap transponders between sectors. Some use odd flight numbers use #1, others captain flying use #1, other the sector away from base use #1. Swap to #2 in the opposites sense. The selection for #1 or #2 is made in ...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

BBC are reporting 140 Iranians on board, so unless dual nationalities have caused confusion in the numbers it would appear there were not 73 Canadians. That would make more sense Want another set of numbers just for shits and giggles? 82 Iranians, 63 Canadians https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

1) Your level of confidence with that assessment (no, this isn't a setup, it's a real question, I can't tell a damned thing from that picture with nothing as a size reference) 2) In the engine picture, any clues as to which engine that is? Port or starboard? I am reasonably confident we are looking...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

“According to preliminary information, the plane crashed due to an engine malfunction. The version of the terrorist attack or rocket attack is currently excluded,”. The statement on the website of the Ukrainian Embassy in Tehran reads. (CNN) Iranian television said the crash was due to technical pr...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

I am trying to think if an engine might fail in anyway to take out the ability of ADS-B to transmit on a 737. Simply could be the transponder in use was #2, most aircraft power #2 when everything is working normally and may only power #1 in reduced states. Would ADS-B not operate on battery in that...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

Folks: can someone help me out and tell me which part of the aircraft we are look at here specifically and is it top-side or bottom-side up. I am having issues orienting myself to the part and where exactly it was on the frame. https://i.ibb.co/4tckZWb/80444-F55-DDBA-4-F3-A-88-F0-C2-C52-DE49-DE2.pn...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

Iranian authorities are reporting no communication from pilots on distress calls. Supporting the notion of this being sudden and utterly catastrophic. PanAm103, MH17, TWA800 etc all went down and due to the severity of the incident, no communication was made understandably. We must also remember th...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

Folks: can someone help me out and tell me which part of the aircraft we are look at here specifically and is it top-side or bottom-side up. I am having issues orienting myself to the part and where exactly it was on the frame. https://i.ibb.co/4tckZWb/80444-F55-DDBA-4-F3-A-88-F0-C2-C52-DE49-DE2.png

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

Iranian authorities are reporting no communication from pilots on distress calls.

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

Ukranian embassy in Iran is reporting the plane crashed due to engine failure. Not sure how they too have conducted an investigation so quickly, but: BBC Questions for the audience out there. (Again hypothetical, because I am trying to make sense of what we know so far). 1) Would a pilot of a 737 be...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

The biggest red flag remains Iran saying it was a mechanical within minutes of the crash. What legit investigative body would do that? We do not know the radio transmissions. Quite possible that the crew could have radioed in an engine failure and fire before crashing. We don't. But I'd think it un...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

First of all, seems like some on here first need to understand Iran is not a war zone like Iraq is. Life is going on there absolutely normally, the city itself is probably safer than Baltimore or Chicago. Second of all, Tehran is located quite north, in the center of the country nowhere near the Ir...

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by osiris30
Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 296516

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

That engine photos seems to show an uncontained engine failure. There is absolutely no way you could tell that from this photo. There is a large hole in the side of engine where the HPT would be (in the 2 o’clock position as we look at it now) as well evidence of heating of the metal in the 12 o’cl...

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by osiris30
Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 751475

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

At the risk of being bitten as I throw red meat into the lion's cage, here is how Boeing explains itself ( ref: AvWeek ): Commenting on criticism of the single-string-failure potential of the AOA input to the MCAS, a Boeing executive says the original design was based on a standard industry process...

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by osiris30
Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 748060

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

The EASA document Reuter’s referring to: https://www.easa.europa.eu/sites/default/files/dfu/IM.A.120%20Boeing737%20TCDS%20APPENDIX%20ISS%2010.pdf Issue 10, Page 15. Interesting reading: Furthermore, the additional crew procedures and training material will clearly explain to pilots the situations w...

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by osiris30
Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

The EASA document Reuter’s referring to: https://www.easa.europa.eu/sites/default/files/dfu/IM.A.120%20Boeing737%20TCDS%20APPENDIX%20ISS%2010.pdf Issue 10, Page 15. Interesting reading: Furthermore, the additional crew procedures and training material will clearly explain to pilots the situations w...

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by osiris30
Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 748060

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

XRAYretired wrote:
osiris30 wrote:
XRAYretired wrote:

Splitting hairs does you no justice.

Ray


Sorry you consider conflicting media reports splitting hairs. We will see when the preliminary comes out. It should answer it for sure.



Lateral disection of rabbits then.


:rotfl: :rotfl: Well played (we need a hat tip emoji)

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 748060

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Sorry you consider conflicting media reports splitting hairs. We will see when the preliminary comes out. It should answer it for sure. Splitting hairs? You are quartering them! Your argument is moot as no real existing commercial flight simulator dedicated MAX or not in airline hands knows about M...

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 748060

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Cant find any retraction only affirmation on 24th that the pilots on ET302 had been trained per FAA/Boeing requirements for conversion and post JT610. Ray a quick search turns up: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethiopia-airplane-simulator-exclusive/ethiopia-crash-captain-did-not-train-on-airlin...

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 748060

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Agreed, no redundant sensor set is ever implemented with different sensor models: calibration would be much less robust, failure modes would multiply (the order of failures would affect the outcome), basically you end up with a system which, right out of the factory, is much less robust than with 3...

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 748060

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Do you have a source for this? Not saying you're wrong, just couldn't find one myself. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethiopia-airplane-simulator-exclusive/ethiopia-crash-captain-did-not-train-on-airlines-max-simulator-source-idUSKCN1R20WD The pilot may have been briefed but wasn't 'trained' as...

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 748060

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Stall recovery is routinely practiced in sims and is part of the check ride (sim) for ?many/most/all? airlines. Pointless on NG simulators (because MAX is the same argument)? And on MAX simulators that didn't replicate 'real' MCAS behaviour? We were discussing stalls not MCAS ... But hey... Why be ...

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 748060

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

hivue wrote:
osiris30 wrote:
It may not be able to simulate the aero, but you still run the drills AFAIK.


I believe you're thinking of approach to stall and not stall.


You are right. Been a day, sorry for that. BUT.. if you do one right you never deal with the other :)

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 748060

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

the comments by ET's CEO regarding training have subsequently turned out to be potentially inaccurate (I don't have time to search for the articles/this thread) well i´m pretty sure you know it by yourself but only for the audience here it is NORMAL that the wheels spins after takeoff there is NO W...

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 748060

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

^ 2 stuck sensors: It has actually happened on an Airbus design, with triple redundant sensors and they DID overrule the good sensor. So it isn't even a theoretical problem, we have evidence of it happening in actual operation on a current design. AoA sensors? Care to give us a link to the incident...

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 748060

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

They have all the data and grounded the MAX, even though we don't have all the data. They grounded the MAX before they had any data beyond the ADS-B data. Go look at the timeline. The groundings were made on the basis of: 1) (early groundings) Same type 2) (early groundings) Close time period 3) (m...

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 748060

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Stall recovery is routinely practiced in sims and is part of the check ride (sim) for ?many/most/all? airlines. Are you sure about that? My understanding is that no simulator can accurately simulate the aerodynamics of a stall in progress. And no one in their right mind is going to purposely stall ...

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 748060

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

ET boss himself said those pilots were trained on MCAS. Stop banging your head against the wall. IT will make you even less objective. From what we know, something happened that in the end activated MCAS but at that point if they were trained like ET is stating they should have had no problem disco...

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 748060

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

How on earth do you come to this conclusion? Considering this happened to two different crews on a new type recently introduced (when did that last happen in aviation history?) this is a staggering simplification, and with respect, not based on any revealed facts. Unless you have personally flown a...

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 748060

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

The 3 sensors should be different so they fail differently at different times under different conditions, then you have a winning strategy. Or a maintenance nightmare and an increased likelihood of minor sensor disagreements. Increased complexity such as having to maintain 3 different types of sens...

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 748060

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Stall's are really no big thing - apply power or lower the nose - as a pilot if you can't recover from a stall you shouldn't be in the cockpit - gross incompetence could cause the stall to turn into a spin but that would take deliberate action and a real f**k up - I don't think there is any example...

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 751475

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethiopia-airplane-regulator-insight/regulators-knew-before-crashes-that-737-max-trim-control-was-confusing-in-some-conditions-document-idUSKCN1RA0DP Regulators knew before crashes that 737 MAX trim control was confusing in some conditions: document quote: The Euro...

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 751475

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

The BBC is reporting that the preliminary ET accident report is stating that MCAS was activated. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47745191 ... and the MAX is still grounded, so maybe we should discuss this in the ET thread instead? To be fair with so many threads I wasn't sure of the best one to...

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 751475

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

How is the fix really a fix? If MCAS is switched off automatically, we have an aircraft without MCAS. Apparently MCAS is good for something in the first place, otherwise it would not be there. So the aircraft will then be operating at the brink of a stall and the pilots need to keep it in the air? ...

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 748060

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

The 3 sensors should be different so they fail differently at different times under different conditions, then you have a winning strategy. Or a maintenance nightmare and an increased likelihood of minor sensor disagreements. Increased complexity such as having to maintain 3 different types of sens...

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 748060

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Was the satellite based ADS-B collection ( a superset of the FR24 data ) made public ? ( Haven't seen it, but .. ) It was not. But the most that data will show is oscillations in altitude. There are lots of other causes that could bring that about especially in an overspeed condition (blowback has ...

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by osiris30
Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 748060

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

On what planet did you see this? I don't recall Boeing speaking out loudly about MCAS issues In fact I would say the reverse is true, as is evidenced by the decision to insist the MAX was still safe to fly. And that was after the second crash. :banghead: q.v. Ministry of Truth, George Orwell, 1984....

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