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by WA707atMSP
Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/11/2020:RELATIVE QUIET;9K Cuts Routes;DL AM Swaps,Drops AUS-CVG;BA/WN/NK Cuts;UA New Routes
Replies: 52
Views: 10398

Re: OAG Changes 8/11/2020:RELATIVE QUIET;9K Cuts Routes;DL AM Swaps,Drops AUS-CVG;BA/WN/NK Cuts;UA New Routes

Thanks as always, enilria! **9K BNA-MWA SEP 1.7>0[0] OCT 1.7>0[0] NOV 1.7>0[0] DEC 1.7>0[0] JAN 1.7>0[0] FEB 1.7>0[0.2] MAR 1.7>0[1.6] APR 1.7>0[1.8] MAY 1.7>0[1.7] JUN 1.7>0[1.7] **9K BNA-OWB SEP 2>0[0] OCT 2>0[0] NOV 2>0[0] DEC 2>0[0] JAN 2>0[0] FEB 2>0[0.7] MAR 2>0[1.9] APR 2>0[2] MAY 2>0[1.9] J...

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by WA707atMSP
Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:35 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: I just gave blood and it's painless
Replies: 30
Views: 1107

Re: I just gave blood and it's painless

Another benefit men get by giving blood: Studies have shown that as red blood cells age, they become less flexible, and more likely to form clots. When men give blood, it removes older, less flexible blood cells, and afterward mens' bodies create new red blood cells that are more flexible, and less ...

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by WA707atMSP
Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines questions
Replies: 72
Views: 9469

Re: Western Airlines questions

What equipment did they use on SLC-FAT? Nevermind, I see they used a 73S. Mainline on SLC-FAT, those were the days. There was also mainline routes like PHX-TUS, Miami to Fort Lauderdale, Miami to Key West, San Juan to Ponce and Aguadilla, Los Cabos to Loreto, London to Amsterdam (granted none of th...

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by WA707atMSP
Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines questions
Replies: 72
Views: 9469

Re: Western Airlines questions

To the OP, remember that the Deregulation Act was 1978, the economy in the early '80s was crap, and Western merged with Delta in 1987. There wasn't a lot of time to be creative. South America wasn't open skies in the 1980s, so airlines still had to compete for route awards. When WA got LGA slots an...

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by WA707atMSP
Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: July 17th: Deadliest Date in Aviation History?
Replies: 20
Views: 5264

Re: July 17th: Deadliest Date in Aviation History?

The Safest Date in Aviation history? Feb 29. I can’t think of a single major airline accident that occurred on this day. There have been at least three crashes on Feb 29 with significant loss of life. On Feb 29, 1964, a British Eagle Britannia hit a mountain near Innsbruck, Austria; all 83 aboard w...

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by WA707atMSP
Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:07 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Is air travel really such a polluter? (Shutdown makes things clearer)
Replies: 32
Views: 3523

Re: Is air travel really such a polluter? (Shutdown makes things clearer)

Whenever anyone tries to shame me for using air travel, I remind them that owning a dog or cat is MUCH worse for the environment than flying on an airplane is. It takes a lot of energy to grow the crops and animals that get turned into dog food, and transport the dog food to retailers. The energy co...

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by WA707atMSP
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes for 7/21/2020:AUGUST SINKING;EK Drops EWR-DXB; DL Drops MLI-MSP; Big Cuts for DL/NK
Replies: 80
Views: 15570

Re: OAG Changes for 7/21/2020:AUGUST SINKING;EK Drops EWR-DXB; DL Drops MLI-MSP; Big Cuts for DL/NK

KG DEN-TEX OCT 0>0.3[0.5] NOV 0>1.0[0.3] DEC 0>1.0[1.3] JAN 0>0.9[1.2] FEB 0>1.1[1.7] MAR 0>0.6[1.7] Last week, Key Lime / Denver Air dropped several routes, including TVF, and we speculated it must have been a misfile. If this is the only route that's being refiled, maybe it means Thief River Fall...

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by WA707atMSP
Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:44 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Most obvious way to significantly cut boarding time
Replies: 45
Views: 5449

Re: Most obvious way to significantly cut boarding time

WilMA fixed a lot of stuff for non status passengers...the biggest downfall with WilMA is it doesn’t do anything for preboards, or elites. On super heavy elite routes..take SFO-ORD on UA...I have been on 777s where half the plane is in group one as we are all elites or in F. That is an amazing bit ...

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by WA707atMSP
Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 7/12/2020:EVOLUTION;NK Cuts Aug;AA Reshapes PHL;B6 LAX Swap;DL Closes YEG;EI Out of MSP;DE Cuts SEA-MUC
Replies: 114
Views: 24346

Re: OAG Changes 7/12/2020:EVOLUTION;NK Cuts Aug;AA Reshapes PHL;B6 LAX Swap;DL Closes YEG;EI Out of MSP;DE Cuts SEA-MUC

KG AIA-DEN OCT 3>1.7[1.7] NOV 3>1.7[1.7] DEC 3>1.7[1.7] KG CVN-DEN NOV 1.7>0[0] DEC 1.7>0[0] KG DEN-TEX AUG 1.0>2[1.0] SEP 0.3>1.3[1.0] OCT 0>1.0[0.5] KG MSP-TVF NOV 1.7>0[0] DEC 1.7>0[0] Except for DEN-TEX, these are all EAS routes. None of them should be changing, must be a misfile. I'm a strong ...

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by WA707atMSP
Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 7/12/2020:EVOLUTION;NK Cuts Aug;AA Reshapes PHL;B6 LAX Swap;DL Closes YEG;EI Out of MSP;DE Cuts SEA-MUC
Replies: 114
Views: 24346

Re: OAG Changes 7/12/2020:EVOLUTION;NK Cuts Aug;AA Reshapes PHL;B6 LAX Swap;DL Closes YEG;EI Out of MSP;DE Cuts SEA-MUC

Flown Delta to Edmonton many times. That will be a big hole in the network if permanent. YEG joins YOW and YXE into the “suspended indefinitely” category. I wonder how long before YHZ, YQB and YEG follow suit. I wonder if the latter survives with 70 years of DL/NW history in Winnipeg? Northwest / D...

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by WA707atMSP
Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 7/12/2020:EVOLUTION;NK Cuts Aug;AA Reshapes PHL;B6 LAX Swap;DL Closes YEG;EI Out of MSP;DE Cuts SEA-MUC
Replies: 114
Views: 24346

Re: OAG Changes 7/12/2020:EVOLUTION;NK Cuts Aug;AA Reshapes PHL;B6 LAX Swap;DL Closes YEG;EI Out of MSP;DE Cuts SEA-MUC

KG AIA-DEN OCT 3>1.7[1.7] NOV 3>1.7[1.7] DEC 3>1.7[1.7] KG CVN-DEN NOV 1.7>0[0] DEC 1.7>0[0] KG DEN-TEX AUG 1.0>2[1.0] SEP 0.3>1.3[1.0] OCT 0>1.0[0.5] KG MSP-TVF NOV 1.7>0[0] DEC 1.7>0[0] Except for DEN-TEX, these are all EAS routes. None of them should be changing, must be a misfile. I'm a strong ...

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by WA707atMSP
Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 1468
Views: 210742

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

AA has so much debt to pay off. Their only path out of this is through their fortress hubs. If they are going to be 30% smaller next year and bring back DFW/CLT/DCA to close to pre-COVID size, it's inconceivable how they could do that without major cuts elsewhere. LAX is going to get huge cuts. The...

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by WA707atMSP
Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA early 747 question
Replies: 78
Views: 10176

Re: AA early 747 question

In 1971 I flew from LAX to WAS (don't remember the airport) in an AA 747. There was a lounge at the rear of the cabin. I took a photo of it which (hopefully) can be viewed here [photoid]http://www.stubchaer.com/AA_B747_1971.jpg[/photoid]. I just joined Airliners and this is my first post, so I'm a ...

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by WA707atMSP
Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Richard Anderson to replace Doug Parker at AA
Replies: 101
Views: 19290

Re: Rumor: Richard Anderson to replace Doug Parker at AA

The rumors about Doug leaving AA have been on this web site at least once a month since the merger. I'll believe it when it actually happens.

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by WA707atMSP
Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Doug Parker makes the day for a WN FA
Replies: 37
Views: 10482

Re: Doug Parker makes the day for a WN FA

Unlike many executives who grew up out of touch with ordinary people because they attended private grade schools and Ivy League colleges, Doug Parker went to public grade schools and a small liberal arts college, Albion College. Albion is in rural Michigan, but the town of Albion, like many cities i...

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by WA707atMSP
Sun May 31, 2020 8:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Who designed Swissair's '80s livery?
Replies: 23
Views: 4887

Re: Who designed Swissair's '80s livery?

Swissair's 1991 annual report included a 36 page brochure about the airline's history and Armin Baltensweiler, the airline's long time chairman. The brochure is titled "Swissair - from Mittelholzer to Baltensweiler". This brochure says: "Over the years, the Swissair arrow logo that ha...

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by WA707atMSP
Fri May 29, 2020 1:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New York Air vs Eastern Air Lines 1981
Replies: 74
Views: 10577

Re: New York Air vs Eastern Air Lines 1981

AA's LGA-DTW was one of the great monopolies of the regulated era. Arguably the most lucrative monopoly route. LGA-DTW was never a true "monopoly", because other airlines did have authority to fly it. The Sep 1972 OAG says AA flew LGA-DTW 9x day (6x 727-100, 2x 727-200, 1x DC-10). UA flew...

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by WA707atMSP
Thu May 28, 2020 10:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New York Air vs Eastern Air Lines 1981
Replies: 74
Views: 10577

Re: New York Air vs Eastern Air Lines 1981

In the fall of 1981, New York Air added LGA-DTW. At the time, AA had almost hourly service on this route, with departures on the hour from DTW, and on the half hour from LGA. It was also among AA's most profitable routes. AA immediately matched New York Air's fares, and launched an aggressive adver...

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by WA707atMSP
Thu May 14, 2020 10:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Laker Airways nonstop London-Tampa?
Replies: 17
Views: 4118

Re: Laker Airways nonstop London-Tampa?

Didn't GK serve LGW-JFK-LAX with their series 10 before the arrival of the long-range version? LAX was operated through BGR until the -30s arrived. JFK operated separately and nonstop.[/quote] Britain's Airlines - Volume 3, by Guy Halford-MacLeod says: "Laker introduced Skytrain to Los Angeles...

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by WA707atMSP
Mon May 04, 2020 9:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 5/3/2020: The New Abnormal
Replies: 74
Views: 13401

Re: OAG Changes 5/3/2020: The New Abnormal

Basically, here's were I'm thinking we are best-case based on the way things are slowly opening-up, risk profiles, and just other practical matters. Domestic VFR Leisure travel - in the sense of visiting family, traveling to second homes, & owned vacation properties is probably going to ramp-up...

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by WA707atMSP
Mon May 04, 2020 9:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 5/3/2020: The New Abnormal
Replies: 74
Views: 13401

Re: OAG Changes 5/3/2020: The New Abnormal

Any news on July and august bookings. While I expect them to be way down I anticipate they will start creeping up as long as there’s no additional large outbreak. A lot of people are going to be looking to visit friends and family later this summer. I'm thinking of taking some kind of trip this sum...

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by WA707atMSP
Sun May 03, 2020 9:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PHL hurt by proximity to EWR/JFK?
Replies: 41
Views: 5006

Re: PHL hurt by proximity to EWR/JFK?

To what extent will PHL’s international growth and relevance always be restricted by the massive number of international flights at EWR(81 miles away) and JFK(105 miles away)? I remember back in the day, PHL had a respectable evening lineup of Air France, British Airways, KLM, Swissair(Now Swiss In...

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by WA707atMSP
Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:13 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Jon Proctor has "flown west"
Replies: 10
Views: 2269

Re: Jon Proctor has "flown west"

Does anyone know what will happen to his collection of photographs? Could they be archived by a museum? Jon was a great guy and a wealth of information. He will truly be missed. Jon prepared a detailed will, with clear guidance about what to do with his collection after his passing. One of his clos...

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by WA707atMSP
Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries
Replies: 46
Views: 5542

Re: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries

I went through my WA annual reports from the time of the PNA purchase to the DL merger. Here's what I found out about WA's service to Alaska: In 1967, the merged Western / PNA had applications pending to extend its routes from Anchorage to Fairbanks, and add Sitka as a stop between Ketchikan and Jun...

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by WA707atMSP
Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries
Replies: 46
Views: 5542

Re: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries

I don’t have any WA timetables from 1969-70 (none on Departed Flights either) but Western didn’t drop the smaller Alaska stations with the retirement of the L-749’s. Why else would they have converted the Electra’s to combies and paint Alaska flags on them? Too bad that since the ‘update’ to this s...

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by WA707atMSP
Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries
Replies: 46
Views: 5542

Re: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries

Would have they received the Chieftain livery or already the swizzlestick? When was it introduced? Although it would have been nice to see a 747-147 in the Chieftan livery, Western's 1970 annual report has the swizzle stick logo on it, so the 747s would almost certainly have been delivered in the s...

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by WA707atMSP
Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:10 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Jon Proctor has "flown west"
Replies: 10
Views: 2269

Jon Proctor has "flown west"

Legendary aviation historian Jon Proctor passed away last night, after a brief illness. Jon's first job in the airline industry was as a reservations agent for PSA. He spent most of his career at TWA, as a gate agent and flight attendant, as well as a manager at the airline's executive offices in Ne...

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by WA707atMSP
Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries
Replies: 46
Views: 5542

Re: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries

When Western started using the W on their livery, I used to call them Winnebagos after the RVs built and titled Winnebago, which had a large W logo on the side. It was located in Winnebago, Iowa. You aren't the only person who felt that way. Winnebago filed a trademark infringement lawsuit against ...

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by WA707atMSP
Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries
Replies: 46
Views: 5542

Re: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries

IIn the late 1960s, Western ordered several 747s, which were cancelled before delivery. Imagine how good the indian head scheme would have looked on a 747? Would have they received the Chieftain livery or already the swizzlestick? When was it introduced? Although it would have been nice to see a 74...

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by WA707atMSP
Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries
Replies: 46
Views: 5542

Re: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries

I always thought the Indian Head tail design looked terrible on the 727-200s. I think it would have looked better if the red color had extended all the way down to the bottom of the #2 engine inlet. In the late 1960s, Western ordered several 747s, which were cancelled before delivery. Imagine how go...

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by WA707atMSP
Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1961
Views: 342986

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

Planespotters.net - maybe not a perfect database, but useful - has expanded to show what's parked, as well as in-service and retired. Highlights of the parkings shwoing at the moment: 16 of 16 753s; CASM has Seat in the acronym; if you can't fill anywhere near the seat count, lowest narrowbody CASM...

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by WA707atMSP
Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Braniff Bankruptcy 1983
Replies: 43
Views: 5842

Re: Braniff Bankruptcy 1983

In watching the documentary, I kept wondering why they didn't declare Chapter 11 earlier, with the intent to reduce costs and reorganize. It seems by the time you get to doing things like witholding parts of paychecks, it seems kinda clear that you just need to file Chapter 11 and get on with it. F...

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by WA707atMSP
Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New York Air vs Eastern Air Lines 1981
Replies: 74
Views: 10577

Re: New York Air vs Eastern Air Lines 1981

In the fall of 1981, New York Air added LGA-DTW. At the time, AA had almost hourly service on this route, with departures on the hour from DTW, and on the half hour from LGA. It was also among AA's most profitable routes. AA immediately matched New York Air's fares, and launched an aggressive advert...

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by WA707atMSP
Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Operations at SJU in the 1970's
Replies: 15
Views: 3299

Re: Delta Operations at SJU in the 1970's

That DL flight SJU-MSY is quite the headscratcher. See my reply two posts above yours as to it's origin. A C&S 'legacy' route. Also, New Orleans was far more of a business center in the 1950s than it is today. Pan Am flew from MSY to cities in Latin America until the 1970s, and Aviateca, Sahsa,...

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by WA707atMSP
Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:44 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What if the L1011 had beat DC-10 to market, and the RB211 program was flawless?
Replies: 31
Views: 4166

Re: What if the L1011 had beat DC-10 to market, and the RB211 program was flawless?

Another big "what if" moment is what would have happened if Lockheed had modified the L-1011 to accept GE CF6s John Newhouse's "The Sporty Game" says that United was wary of the RB 211, and asked Lockheed to offer the CF6 as an alternate engine. Lockheed refused to pay the additi...

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by WA707atMSP
Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1961
Views: 342986

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

Delta has "Hubs at ATL, DTW, MSP, SLC. and now SEA. Other than ATL does anybody notice something wrong? Where ARE hubs along the southern tier or in the West? why not a Texas or Southwestern Hub? American Has PHX, in the Southwest Nobody really owns LAX as a hub So? Where would they spread the...

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by WA707atMSP
Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 3/15/2020: ARMAGEDDON + AS Exits BWI-LAX,RNO-SJC;UA Suspends SMX
Replies: 142
Views: 24334

Re: OAG Changes 3/15/2020: ARMAGEDDON + AS Exits BWI-LAX,RNO-SJC;UA Suspends SMX

Agreed, SEA has been way over served for some time now. DL can also selectively prioritize SEA over everywhere else and destroy AS. They might not have made this decision prior to AA/AS partnership, but that partnership got DL's attention now. The people of Seattle might not soon forget if Delta us...

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by WA707atMSP
Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 3/15/2020: ARMAGEDDON + AS Exits BWI-LAX,RNO-SJC;UA Suspends SMX
Replies: 142
Views: 24334

Re: OAG Changes 3/15/2020: ARMAGEDDON + AS Exits BWI-LAX,RNO-SJC;UA Suspends SMX

Elniria spoke too soon calling these cuts Armageddon. This is just the beginning. Armageddon Part1 If I were to bet, I’d say the worst of this will be over in April, *maybe* May, then things will slowly get back to normal. It could take years before things get back to normal. Things are going to ge...

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by WA707atMSP
Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020
Replies: 1143
Views: 182745

Re: Corona Virus Aircraft Parking

When UA announced the 20% international reduction and 10% domestic reduction they told us here at Willis Tower UA is looking to park aircraft at airports like CLE, HOU, IAH and IAD. I think UA will park as many widebodies as they can at the hubs by fleet type 787s-LAX, SFO, IAH, DEN, EWR; 777s- SFO...

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by WA707atMSP
Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did the Northwest DC-10 ever make it to its Asian network?
Replies: 90
Views: 11721

Re: Did the Northwest DC-10 ever make it to its Asian network?

WA707atMSP and TW870 - really appreciate both of your detailed replies. Never realized ORD was once that large of a station for NW or thought of the cargo aspect of the operation. Thanks again Until the early 1980s, General Motors had two Los Angeles area assembly plants (in Van Nuys and Norwalk) a...

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by WA707atMSP
Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did the Northwest DC-10 ever make it to its Asian network?
Replies: 90
Views: 11721

Re: Did the Northwest DC-10 ever make it to its Asian network?

As others have noted, NW flew the DC-10 extensively in Asia after the GE-powered DC-10-30s started arriving from Swissair and other carriers in 1992. The bigger question is if Northwest ever scheduled the Pratt powered DC-10-40s to Asia. If they did, it would have been in a very short window in the...

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by WA707atMSP
Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did the Northwest DC-10 ever make it to its Asian network?
Replies: 90
Views: 11721

Re: Did the Northwest DC-10 ever make it to its Asian network?

raylee67 wrote:
When they first opened SEA-HKG, I think it was DC-10 too, then it moved to 747


It was United that opened SEA-HKG with a DC-10. UA used DC-10-30s leased from CP Air for the route.

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by WA707atMSP
Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did the Northwest DC-10 ever make it to its Asian network?
Replies: 90
Views: 11721

Re: Did the Northwest DC-10 ever make it to its Asian network?

NW's April 29, 1973 timetable shows the DC-10 was used on NW 3, IAD-CLE-ORD-ANC-HND. The HND-ITM-TPE legs of this flight were operated with a 707. The April 22, 1974 timetable shows this flight was due to switch to a 747, and the CLE stop would be omitted, effective June 1, 1974. Excellent work fin...

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by WA707atMSP
Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did the Northwest DC-10 ever make it to its Asian network?
Replies: 90
Views: 11721

Re: Did the Northwest DC-10 ever make it to its Asian network?

As others have noted, NW flew the DC-10 extensively in Asia after the GE-powered DC-10-30s started arriving from Swissair and other carriers in 1992. The bigger question is if Northwest ever scheduled the Pratt powered DC-10-40s to Asia. If they did, it would have been in a very short window in the...

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by WA707atMSP
Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thief River Falls switching to Denver Air Connection from Boutique Air
Replies: 13
Views: 2588

Re: Thief River Falls switching to Denver Air Connection from Boutique Air

Boutique has been losing market after market in the past few years. Off the top of my head Moab, Alliance, Dodge City, Vernal, Silver City, Clovis and Thief River Falls all have been lost. They only retained Massena only when Skywest realize they could not reliably operate the CRJ into MSS. At one ...

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by WA707atMSP
Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly
Replies: 1133
Views: 250225

Re: DL retiring MD-80s quickly

As DL MD-88s continue into their twilight, I managed to stumble across an unusual find....photographic evidence of a Delta MD-88 at SLC. https://www.planespotters.net/photo/037370/n999dn-delta-air-lines-mcdonnell-douglas-md-88 About a decade ago, I recall seeing a somewhat grainy internet pic of a ...

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by WA707atMSP
Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thief River Falls switching to Denver Air Connection from Boutique Air
Replies: 13
Views: 2588

Re: Thief River Falls switching to Denver Air Connection from Boutique Air

Sky West has been taking over EAS routes in Denver from airlines like Boutique Air, and operating them as UA code shares. I'm a little surprised they didn't bid on the EAS contract at TVF as a Delta code share; this would have given Digi Key passengers the ability to have on line connections at MSP ...

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by WA707atMSP
Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thief River Falls switching to Denver Air Connection from Boutique Air
Replies: 13
Views: 2588

Thief River Falls switching to Denver Air Connection from Boutique Air

This was discussed briefly in the OAG thread, but I think it merits its own thread. Effective June 1, the Essential Air Service contract for Thief River Falls will be switching from Boutique Air to Denver Air Connection. Boutique Air had been serving TVF-MSP 3x day with 9 seat Pilatus Porters. Denve...

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by WA707atMSP
Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Concorde at Memphis - 1979
Replies: 35
Views: 4492

Re: Concorde at Memphis - 1979

FedEx considered leasing a Concorde, to fly high priority documents across the Atlantic faster than they could be flown on subsonic aircraft.

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by WA707atMSP
Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue turns 20
Replies: 88
Views: 8712

Re: JetBlue turns 20 today.

If my history is correct other than the international bank wasn’t jfk so slow you could go bowling midday on one of the runways? Yeah they got slots we wouldn’t want a new airline to come in and grow an airport or anything. Seems like nobody else cared about JFK. Schumer and other politicians pushe...

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