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IslandHopper

RE: When Did Virgin's Planes First Get PTVs?

Wonder why Valujet elected not to fly the MD80s again. Did they sell them off because they needed the cash to continue to survive? Just funny that they would sell their newest planes and keep the old bombs.

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IslandHopper

RE: Did Valujet Or AirTran Ever Operate MD80s?

Wow, they flew those 737s until 2001? What happened to the MD80s...Valujet never flew them again after the shutdown?

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IslandHopper

Did Valujet Or AirTran Ever Operate MD80s?

I ran across this picture of a Valujet MD80: <center><a href="/open.file/007776/L/" target="_blank">View Large</a> <a href="/open.file/007776/M/" target="_blank">View Medium <IMG SRC="/photos/small/6/7/7/007776.jpg" ALT="Click her...

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IslandHopper

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Almost half of the F100s produced are sitting in the desert. Most of these planes arent't even 10 years old! If the planes are so great, then why are they all parked? I heard the plane's engines have an FAA directive that costs millions to fix, and nobody thinks the jets are worth fixing. Really sad...

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IslandHopper

RE: When Did Virgin's Planes First Get PTVs?

That pic of the only production A300 B1 being demolished makes me sick. Does Airbus have no sense of history?

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IslandHopper

RE: When Did Virgin's Planes First Get PTVs?

Firse of all, let me say that I love the Mercure, and it was a technically successful aircraft that did what it was designed to do. But it would be hard to argue that it was anything other than a socialist government's "make work" project that had no chance (or maybe even interest?) for worldwide sa...

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IslandHopper

RE: When Did Virgin's Planes First Get PTVs?

Syncmaster - were the flight numbers the same? Delta's site is set up to give you flights as close to the time you specify as possible, disregarding price. The trick I do is go to Orbitz, get the flight numbers/times, then find them on Delta's site and the fare is usually $5 lower (due to no Orbitz ...

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IslandHopper

RE: When Did Virgin's Planes First Get PTVs?

Same thing for United Airlines...same itinerary will have a higher price than the discount sites. I like Delta's policy of always having the lowest scheduled fares available on their own website. I've never seen Delta's site beat.

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IslandHopper

Was The BAC 1-11 A Success Or Failure?

>One of the better Airliners.net articles in a long time.

Thanks! I searched through the archives and couldn't find a good discussion on the 1-11.

I thought only TAROM flew the ROMBAC 1-11, did Ryanair really fly them?

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IslandHopper

RE: Was The BAC 1-11 A Success Or Failure?

>The quote Sir George Edwards again from the Christopher Hinton lecture he gave in Nov '82, "The BAC 1-11....showed a respectable profit with 230 sold, two-thirds of them being for export". No surprise the <acronym title="Servivensa (Venezuela)">VC</acronym>-10 didn't make money...all that engineeri...

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IslandHopper

Was The BAC 1-11 A Success Or Failure?

So was the 1-11 the most-produced jet airliner in Britains history? Too bad the Romanian version didn't take off. I heard that Kiwi airlines was going to order it, but went belly up before placing an order.

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IslandHopper

Was The BAC 1-11 A Success Or Failure?

>I have worked on the 707 and there is no way you can get from the cabin to the main landing gear bay. Even from directly above it.

In the book, he says he did this on a Vickers VC10. Is it possible on that jet? I remember thinking that was far-fetched.

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IslandHopper

Was The BAC 1-11 A Success Or Failure?

>then word quickly spread thru the crowd that Hawaiian would take us.

Sounds like a huddled mass of stranded refugees looking for a country to give you asylum.

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IslandHopper

Was The BAC 1-11 A Success Or Failure?

The BAC 1-11 was one of the best selling British airliners at 233, but production was nothing compared with the similar sized DC-9 that was launched at almost the same time. On the other hand, the 1-11 got a lot of foriegn orders unlike the Trident and VC10. American, Braniff and Mohawk operated the...

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IslandHopper

RE: When Did Virgin's Planes First Get PTVs?

Laddb,

That would be a weird experience...having them set up a podium and have a press conference announcing bankruptcy right in the boarding area! Why didn't they just tell you to find another flight?

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IslandHopper

RE: When Did Virgin's Planes First Get PTVs?

Does USAir still fly any MD80s?

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IslandHopper

RE: When Did Virgin's Planes First Get PTVs?

>As far as the passenger being a freeloader, all funds from unused plane tickets are held in escrow until the passenger flies, so the accommodating airline also gets paid the airfare the customer paid to the original airline. But they will be named an unsecured creditor to the bankrupt airline (just...

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IslandHopper

RE: Ever Been Stranded By An Airline Going Belly-up?

>...the tickets were to be confirmed seats.

What if a flight was overbooked? Surely the FAA wouldn't require an airline to bump off paying passengers to accomodate a freeloader.

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IslandHopper

RE: Ever Been Stranded By An Airline Going Belly-up?

I wonder why airlines sometimes will honor defunct carriers' tickets, but not others?

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IslandHopper

Ever Been Stranded By An Airline Going Belly-up?

Just wondered if any of you has been stranded by an airline that's gone out of business in the middle of your trip. I've had two airlines go belly-up on me before my return home, but only once did I have to buy another ticket. That time was on good 'ol Tower air in 2000. I had flown <acronym title="...

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IslandHopper

RE: When Did Virgin's Planes First Get PTVs?

Oh yeah, I had a Watchman myself in the 80s. Were the 1991 "6 channel" screen the first PTVs in a commercial aircraft? Did they even have color LCD screens back then?

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IslandHopper

Delta Fined $100,000 For Wheelchair Violation

My 85 year old grandmother had a stroke a couple years ago and now travels by wheelchair, and she has had nothing but exemplary service from Delta. In fact they usually seat her in the first row of first class! She raves about Delta everytime I pick her up from the airport and how much she enjoyed s...

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IslandHopper

RE: When Did Virgin's Planes First Get PTVs?

Thanks, ITK. What kind of IFE did the planes have before PTVs?

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IslandHopper

When Did Virgin's Planes First Get PTVs?

I know that Virgin was one of the first airlines to put PTVs on its jets, but surely they didn't have that kind of technology back in 1984 when they launched services. These look pretty old, perhaps early 90s vintage? <center><a href...

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IslandHopper

RE: Why Did Fokker Close?

>At the time Fokker had promised for the 100th time that Fokker would not be requiring any money. As I understand it, Fokker was already heavily in debt to the Dutch government. Eventually, even socialist countries will say ENOUGH and cut off the cash flow to underperforming industries. Why throw go...

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IslandHopper

RE: Iraq To Negotiate With Boeing To Lease Aircraft

>Isn't that kinda cheap for 12 a/c's (espcially airbus) unless theyre really worn out? Consider they placed the orders back in the 80's (for A310s, no?)...prices were cheaper back then. This presents an interesting dilemma. Use their 10% down and get a good deal from Airbus, or forfeit their deposit...

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IslandHopper

RE: China Green Lights Private Jets

So much for communism, where only party elites get things like biz jets. Good riddance!

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IslandHopper

RE: USAfrica Airways

I think they had a good idea but were poorly funded. There was no other direct service to Africa from the USA at that time. Even now, I believe SAA is the only one to fly direct to the continent from the USA.

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IslandHopper

RE: Amazing Pic Of A DC10 Firefighting Water Bomber!

So what happens when the large propliners are no longer serviceable? They haven't made any large propliners in years, have they? As the propliners become old and fatigued (as that C-130), will jets become more common?

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IslandHopper

RE: Amazing Pic Of A DC10 Firefighting Water Bomber!

Pretty cool Illuyshin. Have any of these jets actually seen fire service?

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IslandHopper

RE: Amazing Pic Of A DC10 Firefighting Water Bomber!

>C-130 water bomber that went down a couple years ago

What happened? Did the wing break off?

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IslandHopper

RE: Will Emirates Fly To SFO/LAX/JFK?

I imagine Emirates will fly to the US at some time. They've got to be planning to fly all those A380s somewhere!

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IslandHopper

RE: ATA - L1011 Fleet

>Basically a shit heap.

Geez guys, a little harsh aren't you? At least somebody is still flying these antiques! Won't be long before they're all gone.

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IslandHopper

Amazing Pic Of A DC10 Firefighting Water Bomber!

We sure could have used this bird in southern California a few weeks ago: <a href="http://airtanker.com/wwwboard/messages/6719.html" target=_blank>http://airtanker.com/wwwboard/messages/6719.html</a> It's an ex- National, Pan Am, American, and Omni Air DC-10-10 N450AX: <table align=center border...

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IslandHopper

RE: Your Private A380

I imagine some oil sheiks or sultans will buy an A380 and outfit it. Maybe they will find a way to fit a jacuzzi tub big enough for a harem, chandeliers, an elevator, a mosque, and a cargo hold for those sports car buying sprees in Italy. Seriously...judging by the 747s and 777s I've seen customized...

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IslandHopper

RE: Northwest's First Jet?

>I am suprised its not still flying for them

LOL Actually, according to airlinerlist.com N801US was scrapped in South Africa in the mid-80s.

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IslandHopper

RE: New House Built Near MSP Runway

Much as I love to go spot jets sometimes, and hear the roar of the jets, I wouldn't want to live with it 24-7! It seems silly to me for the city to allow the building of a house that sooner or later will require taxpayer money to move, demoilish, or have $32,000 sound insulation. The city should hav...

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IslandHopper

RE: Iraqi Aircraft?

They did...a regularly scheduled 747SP and 727-200. Both survived the bomb attacks, but were later looted and vandalized by irresponsible coalition soldiers. A terrible waste in my opinion, but one of the comparitively minor losses of war, which is an inherently messy operation.

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IslandHopper

RE: Phuket Air 747?

The directors of Phuket Air discuss adding new routes: "What aircraft should we get to start these new routes?" "767!" says one director "not big enough, get a DC-10!" says another "Aw, Phuket, let's get a 747!!!" says the CEO Sorry, couldn't resist. <img src="/discussions/graphics/giggles.gif...

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IslandHopper

RE: Why Whould A Small Jet Have 4 Engines?

The Lockheed Jetstar was a small biz jet that had four engines. <table align=center border=0 width=500><tr><td><center><a href="/open.file/347057/L/" target="_blank">View Large</a> <a href="/open.file/347057/M/" target="_blank">View ...

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IslandHopper

RE: John Travolta's New House!

*Drool* I'm simply speechless. You've come a long way, Vinny!

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IslandHopper

RE: What's Ur Fantasy Fleet N Base?

Name: The IslandHopper Fleet: one of the ex-USAir MD80s or 733s from the desert (low lease/purchase rates, proven & reliable design), an extra plane or two for parts. All coach seating. Painted in some kind of floral scheme similar to what the islanders wear. Buy more desert jets when/if demand incr...

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IslandHopper

RE: What Kind Of Aircraft Is This?

Cool plane. I searched on Google for more info on this jet, but there is very little info out there. They made 40 of them. The link above has a picture four-engined version a la Lockheed Jetstar. Why was this jet unsuccessful? Looks like a pretty cool biz jet. Anybody know about this jet?

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IslandHopper

RE: BAe-146/Avro RJ...a Success Or Failure?

I can't imagine 3-3 seating on a 146...2-3 was tight enough! Isn't the cabin width smaller than a DC9? As far as I know, no DC9s were 3-3. I also heard the bathrooms were tiny. Supposedly if a man was 6ft. tall you couldn't close the door, stand, and pee. <img src="/discussions/graphics/giggle...

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IslandHopper

RE: Story Behind The "Spirit Of Delta" Donated 767?

Sun Valley, what happened to that respect? Why aren't you working for Delta anymore? I know Delta still has pretty good labor relations, but I'm sure it's not at the level it was back then.

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IslandHopper

RE: Story Behind The "Spirit Of Delta" Donated 767?

Wow, looks like the employees really pitched in to help the company out in bad times! There is no way in hell anything like this would happen now.

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IslandHopper

Story Behind The "Spirit Of Delta" Donated 767?

I saw the Spirit of Delta in Atlanta...a beautiful plane, love the script they chose: <center><a href="/open.file/424517/L/" target="_blank">View Large</a> <a href="/open.file/424517/M/" target="_blank">View Medium <IMG SRC="/phot...

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IslandHopper

RE: Why CLT Has No LCC...market? Politics?

>One person actually recommended that US consider spinning off the <acronym title="Charlotte - Douglas International (CLT / KCLT), USA - North Carolina">CLT</acronym> operations into its own airline that should be profitable. You mean essentially bringing back Piedmont. I'm all for that! <img ...

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IslandHopper

RE: Delta's DC8s And Pax 70 Series Conversions

>The last passenger DC-8 flights were charters operated by MGM Grand, which used 3 DC-8-62's Were these flights later than Air Marshall Island's "Little Amy" DC-8-62? The reason I'm so curious about DC8s is that I got to fly on Little Amy in 1996! It sure was loud, and weird because the cabin ended ...

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IslandHopper

RE: BAe-146/Avro RJ...a Success Or Failure?

Yeah...USAir stopped serving most of PSAs routes once they parked the 146s. I think that was the real reason, rather than economics.

They actually had 3-3 seating?!?!? I thought coach was 3-2.

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