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by citationjet
Thu May 06, 2021 2:22 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Scrapping of test aircraft
Replies: 4
Views: 1812

Re: Scrapping of test aircraft

At Cessna, the prototype Citation aircraft had excape hatches in the lower fuselage with explosive bolts for emergency egress by test pilots.
This makes them non-conformal to type design and cannot be sold.

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Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why doesn't Boeing build regional jet?
Replies: 110
Views: 13671

Re: Why doesn't Boeing build regional jet?

Wingtips56 wrote:
So yes, US carriers operated probably every 737-200 well over 100 seats.


The original Frontier Airlines had 97 Y seats in their 737-200s.
I have the seat map sticker board used to select seat assignments at the gate. 15 rows of 6, 2 rows of 2, and 1 row of 3.

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by citationjet
Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why doesn't Boeing build regional jet?
Replies: 110
Views: 13671

Re: Why doesn't Boeing build regional jet?

miegapele wrote:
Even smallest 737-100 had 120 seats.


Typical single class seating was 100 on the -100.
Lufthansa used two Class seating so total capacity was less than 100.

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by citationjet
Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Flight 86 (HNL-MCO) Inaugural Flight enroute
Replies: 58
Views: 8898

Re: Hawaiian Flight 86...Inaugural Flight..enroute

LASVegan wrote:
How long is that flight?? I’m guessing longest US domestic flight ever?


HNL to MCO is 8:20.
MCO to HNL is 10:30.
Times per FlightAware.com

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by citationjet
Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: "Dry airspace"
Replies: 37
Views: 5176

Re: "Dry airspace"

“Before 1949, U.S. airlines didn’t serve alcohol in flight, writes Rust in Flying Across America: The Airline Passenger Experience. But when a few airlines eventually decided to serve alcohol, that didn’t mean it was easy to do so. Because of conflicting state liquor laws, drinks could be served onl...

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by citationjet
Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: "Dry airspace"
Replies: 37
Views: 5176

Re: "Dry airspace"

We fly into MCI all the time and I’ve never heard of such a thing. If it ever was a thing it must have been quite some time ago? The enforcement of Kansas liquor laws on the airlines by the Kansas Attorney General occurred in 1971, 50 years ago. That is why you haven’t heard of it happening flying ...

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by citationjet
Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: "Dry airspace"
Replies: 37
Views: 5176

Re: "Dry airspace"

Great thread and post. What did Braniff do!? My father was a Braniff ticket agent in Wichita,KS from 1959 to 1982, so I non-reved out of ICT many times during the “Vern Miller” years. Departing Wichita, Braniff would not serve drinks until after the plane crossed state lines (OK going to DFW or MO ...

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by citationjet
Sun Jan 31, 2021 3:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dallas / Fort Worth (DFW/DAL) Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 127
Views: 13801

Re: Dallas / Fort Worth (DFW/DAL) Aviation Thread - 2021

Ishrion wrote:
For what it's worth, AA just added DFW to Eugene, a 1,600 mile E-175 flight.


Per AA.com the block time for flight #4061 DFW to EUG is 4:20.

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by citationjet
Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:55 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Super Bowl Flyover 2021
Replies: 23
Views: 4466

Re: Super Bowl Flyover 2021

Regarding inflight refueling, per the link in the OP: The bombers will depart from their respective bases, join up for the flyover and return to base following the event. Tampa’s own 6th Air Refueling Wing at MacDill Air Force Base will provide air refueling before the flyover, according to Lt. Chri...

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by citationjet
Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Golden Days at DFW
Replies: 126
Views: 10506

Re: Golden Days at DFW

I remember the recorded passenger announcements on the trAAin.
“Please stand back, the doors are about to close.”
Then the doors would close.
AFTER the doors closed, the message was repeated in Spanish.
This went on for many years like this.

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by citationjet
Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread [Ungrounded by FAA 18NOV2020]
Replies: 373
Views: 525629

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020 [Ungrounded by FAA 18NOV2020]

UpNAWAy wrote:
The first passenger MAX flight in the US is airbonn right now.


AA flight 718, N314RH, MIA to LGA.

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by citationjet
Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:32 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: British Airways JFK-MAN
Replies: 9
Views: 1427

Re: British Airways JFK-MAN

Duplicate post.

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by citationjet
Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:31 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: British Airways JFK-MAN
Replies: 9
Views: 1427

Re: British Airways JFK-MAN

I flew a British VC-10 from JFK to MAN in January 1977.

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by citationjet
Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:06 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Feeling nostalgic about 747s. Who’s have you flown?
Replies: 138
Views: 12464

Re: Feeling nostalgic about 747s. Who’s have you flown?

Braniff
TWA
PanAm
Lufthansa
Japan
Air France
KLM
British

Have flown: 747-100, 747-200, 747-300, 747-400, 747SP

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by citationjet
Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:31 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Boeing 747-400 Runway lengths
Replies: 37
Views: 6340

Re: Boeing 747-400 Runway lengths

In the early 1970s I was onboard Braniff's 747-127 N601BN that operated from a 7300 ft runway in Wichita, KS on a charter flight. The plane was ferried to ICT, landing with about 30 passengers, but departed with every seat full. It made a fuel stop in LAX on the way to HNL. This was the first 747 to...

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by citationjet
Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 vaccine transport flights.
Replies: 93
Views: 16778

Re: COVID-19 vaccine transport flights.

deltacto wrote:
this may be a dumb question: if the vaccine is not yet approved, what is United carrying on these flights?


They are carrying the unapproved vaccine.

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by citationjet
Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:36 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Final Pan Am 707 routes
Replies: 13
Views: 3604

Re: Final Pan Am 707 routes

Still, glad I had the experience. I am still in my 50's. My guess is there are not a lot of folks still around who have flown on a 707. I also recall the PanAm 707 flight from 1980 having a dated interior, even for 1980. I was lucky enough to have flown on the 707-100 series, Braniff’s 707-227, and...

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by citationjet
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:56 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Final Pan Am 707 routes
Replies: 13
Views: 3604

Re: Final Pan Am 707 routes

ElroyJetson wrote:
I flew on a Pan AM 707 from JFK to FCO in February 1980. It is the only 707 flight I have ever been on. The return was a 747.


I flew the same route in a PanAm 707 in April or May 1980.
The 707 was an all coach configuration, and was a sub for a scheduled 747 that day.

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by citationjet
Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:30 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: TWA flights to Europe from STL
Replies: 109
Views: 14089

Re: TWA flights to Europe from STL

My April 5, 1998 TWA timetable shows Flight #720 STL to LGW 767 daily Flight #722 STL to LGW 767 5x per week before April 30 and daily after May 1. Flight #818 STL to CDG 767 daily My September 8, 1999 timetable shows Flight #720 STL to LGW 767-300 daily Flight #818 STL to CDG non-stop 767 daily unt...

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by citationjet
Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:25 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Your first piston-powered aircraft flight
Replies: 29
Views: 2601

Re: Your first piston-powered aircraft flight

Braniff DC-3 in 1956.

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by citationjet
Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Anyone have the story of a jumbo landing emergency and seats had to be removed to get plane out?
Replies: 61
Views: 12513

Re: Anyone have the story of a jumbo landing emergency and seatschad to be removed to get plane out?

There was the dreamlifter that landed at a 10 miles away from Wichita at a small airfield. They removed the cargo, I believe to take off: I don’t believe that cargo was offloaded. Especially since the dreamlifer cargo is large aircraft components. They didn’t have the equipment to offload anything....

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by citationjet
Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:27 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Airbus A220 Corporate Jet?
Replies: 9
Views: 3575

Re: Airbus A220 Corporate Jet?

[url][/url]https://www.flightglobal.com/air-transport/airbus-a220-100-to-evolve-as-twotwenty-corporate-jet/140475.article#.X3wnmzzLOQI.twitter It's official, folks. Airbus bites the bullet. https://www.flightglobal.com/air-transport/airbus-a220-100-to-evolve-as-twotwenty-corporate-jet/140475.articl...

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by citationjet
Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:50 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How does the Air Force keep fuselages made in the 1950s/60s/70s airworthy?
Replies: 13
Views: 5971

Re: How does the Air Force keep fuselages made in the 1950s/60s/70s airworthy?

I worked for Boeing Military Company, Wichita, KS in the 1980s.
At that time the B-52s were averaging 350 hours per year of flight time.

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by citationjet
Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:35 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Going out of your way to fly a special type
Replies: 67
Views: 6322

Re: Going out of your way to fly a special type

I not only went out of my way to fly a certain plane, I planned a trip because of the opportunity to fly a certain plane. Roughly 10 years ago I flew SQ from SFO to HKG on the A-380. I hadn't planned the trip until I was offered an travel agent discount fare of $380 RT for the flight. I went because...

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by citationjet
Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:21 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Personal "Golden Age" of aviation
Replies: 18
Views: 1695

Re: Personal "Golden Age" of aviation

My personal Golden Age was the late 60s and the 70s. The variety of airplanes were amazing. DC-6s and 7s were phasing out, and Electra’s. DC-9s, 1-11s and 727s brought jet service to smaller cities. The 747 was truly amazing plane. I remember being in one for the first time about 1970. Being a Brani...

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by citationjet
Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIA banned from Europe
Replies: 93
Views: 18452

Re: PIA banned from Europe

citationjet wrote:
Westerwaelder wrote:
Maybe you care to provide a source for that?


Google has examples.
https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2017/12/16/pia-fires-13-employees-in-heroin-smuggling-case-report/


PIA airplane crew jailed for two years for drug smuggling:
https://www.dawn.com/news/1395433

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by citationjet
Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIA banned from Europe
Replies: 93
Views: 18452

Re: PIA banned from Europe

Westerwaelder wrote:
Maybe you care to provide a source for that?


Google has examples.
https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2017/12/16/pia-fires-13-employees-in-heroin-smuggling-case-report/

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by citationjet
Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:50 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: L1011, so many versions ?
Replies: 13
Views: 2751

Re: L1011, so many versions ?

The various versions were because heavier, longer range versions were not initially offered. Model changes were required to compete with the DC-10.

A good article that describes the L-1011 variants:
https://aircraft.fandom.com/wiki/Lockheed_L-1011_TriStar

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by citationjet
Fri May 15, 2020 1:28 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Parking airliners on soft ground
Replies: 10
Views: 2473

Re: Parking airliners on soft ground

planemechanic wrote:
Aircraft parked on soft surfaces are usually parked on large thick steel plates, to distribute the load.

The A380s in the photo do not appear to be parked on Steel plates, but on bare ground.

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by citationjet
Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Airbus A380 Turns 15 Today (April 27)
Replies: 295
Views: 38570

Re: The Airbus A380 Turns 15 Today (April 27)

m66 wrote:
I wonder how many are in the air today on its 15th birthday? I guess it will be a sad number.


Currently two A380s in flight.
https://flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/A388

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by citationjet
Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:41 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Using passenger aircraft as freighters during this crisis
Replies: 20
Views: 4371

Re: Using passenger aircraft as freighters during this crisis

So the Federal Aviation Administration says airlines may remove the seats from passenger aircraft and turn them into freighters. The regulator laid out how the carriers could use “seat tracks to tie cargo down,” stow smaller pieces in overhead bins, and possibly strap containers behind bulkheads. Ai...

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by citationjet
Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New SCL terminal, new TPAC gateway between South America & Australia/NZ
Replies: 41
Views: 6305

Re: New SCL terminal, new TPAC gateway between South America & Australia/NZ

The experience I had INTL-INTL flying AC EZE-SCL-YYZ was horrible. I've never walked as much in an airport, the U-shape design is the least friendly for connecting passengers. I agree on the long walks at the new terminal. I arrived in SCL on AA in January of this year. I have never walked so far i...

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by citationjet
Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:33 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How are some vintage airliners still operational?
Replies: 33
Views: 4300

Re: How are some vintage airliners still operational?

So t[url][/url]echnically its possible to rescue an old aircraft rotting in the boneyard? The answer is yes, given enough time and money. Although not an airliner, the recently restored B-29 Doc is an example of this. Doc sat in the desert from 1956 until about 2000. After hundreds of thousands of ...

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by citationjet
Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:00 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Braniff Deep South America Flights/Crew Q
Replies: 18
Views: 3432

Re: Braniff Deep South America Flights/Crew Q

As a pre teenager, I non-reved on Braniff DC-8s on SA flights. One time while riding in First Class the F/A asked if I wanted to sit in the cockpit during the flight. I sat in the observer seat for over an hour as we flew over Cuba. I believe it was a MIA to LIM flight. One of the pilots was also fr...

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by citationjet
Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:06 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why do aviation safety agencies overlook obvious safety deficiencies ?
Replies: 60
Views: 9266

Re: Why do aviation safety agencies overlook obvious safety deficiencies ?

Antaras wrote:
Well I believe that airframe was dumping fuel :roll:


737s cannot dump fuel. You were seeing air vortices coming off the wing.

https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/9393/why-doesnt-the-737-have-a-fuel-dump-nozzle

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Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:07 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why would a test flight be flying low?
Replies: 19
Views: 1967

Re: Why would a test flight be flying low?

"P-8 is also designed for low altitude missions and has already proven its abilities supporting humanitarian and search and rescue missions. Globally proven, the P-8 has two variants: The P-8I, flown by the Indian Navy, and the P-8A Poseidon, flown by the U.S. Navy and the Royal Australian Air ...

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by citationjet
Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest adding 16 new gates in Denver, will be WN's largest city
Replies: 112
Views: 16609

Re: Southwest adding 16 new gates in Denver, will be WN's largest city

Qantas59 wrote:
Southwest also served DEN briefly from May, 1983 until Sep, 1986. They did much better on the second attempt!


In February 1985, Southwest only flew to PHX and ABQ from DEN.
http://www.departedflights.com/DEN85intro.html

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by citationjet
Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Concorde: why no LHR-BOS service?
Replies: 35
Views: 7330

Re: Concorde: why no LHR-BOS service?

Bhoy wrote:
citationjet wrote:
BOS had nonstop service to:
FRA, GLA, LHR, LGA, CDG, ORY, FCO, SHN, ZRH, TLV.
http://www.departedflights.com/BOSI83p1.html

Boston had non-stop TATL service to La Guardia?


I meant LGW, not LGA.

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by citationjet
Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Concorde: why no LHR-BOS service?
Replies: 35
Views: 7330

Re: Concorde: why no LHR-BOS service?

Back when? BOS certainly had non-stops to London, Paris and Frankfurt in 1980. In 1983, JFK had much more non-stop service to Europe, compared to BOS. JFK had nonstop service to: PRG, REK, FCO, Malaga, MXP, MUC, OSL, CDG, ORY, FRA, GVA, HEL, LGW, LHR, MAD, AMS, ATH, Belgrade, BRU, CPH, DUS, SNN, AR...

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by citationjet
Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:16 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: When did airlines start offering employees free/reduced fare travel?
Replies: 18
Views: 1881

Re: When did airlines start offering employees free/reduced fare travel?

My first non-rev flight was in 1956 on a Braniff DC-3. My dad started working for Braniff that year.
My wife worked for the original Frontier in 1979 when we got married. We paid $2.50 per flight on Frontier.
I was 45 years old when I purchased my first revenue ticket.

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by citationjet
Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:38 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What former airports have you flown into?
Replies: 45
Views: 2437

Re: What former airports have you flown into?

Former Airports:
Denver Stapleton
Hong Kong Kai Tak

Airports no longer with commercial airline service:
Kansas City Downtown (MKC)

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by citationjet
Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:08 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Whose 747’s have you flown?
Replies: 77
Views: 2411

Re: Whose 747’s have you flown?

Braniff
PanAm
TWA
Air France
Japan
KLM
Swissair
Lufthansa
British

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by citationjet
Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:05 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: West coast of South America - why do planes fly around Peru/Ecuador?
Replies: 6
Views: 640

Re: West coast of South America - why do planes fly around Peru/Ecuador?

I flew AA 940 from SCL to DFW last Saturday. Our flight flew over the coast of Peru and Ecuador, but it was a straight line, as our destination of DFW is further west than ATL or JFK.

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by citationjet
Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:31 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Refund for flights on jets with sport teams you hate, pink ribbons, etc.
Replies: 21
Views: 5289

Re: Refund for flights on jets with sport teams you hate, pink ribbons, etc.

Would an airline issue a refund or reroute you if you didn't want to fly on a jet which promoted something you hate? No. But if you really wanted to make your point, you could ask to be rebooked, pay the $200 change fee plus any fare difference, and take a later flight. You always have that choice ...

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