Re: Have Boeing Or Airbus Ever Had Stock ?

Then Boeing has hd "white tails" airplanes where customers backed out, ceased to exist, opted for a different model, and in the 80's production overrun (727's) when they thought it was better to keep production up while sales lagged. Good example are the two 747-8s that were Not delivered...

Re: Move the forum down in order

I suggest removing the words Discussion Forum from the title. All aviation forums here are discussion forums. Not a single one of them has it mentioned in its title. I agree with removing the words “Discussion Forum” from the new Helicopter forum title for consistency with existing forums. Why does...

Re: AA online I'ntl check in issues?

There is no benefit to checking in on-line a day early for an international flight, unless you don’t have a seat assignment or only have carry on luggage. If you make an error on passport or other info, the system will knock you off, and the airport ticket counter will have to correct. Just let the ...

Re: Why is the 737 fuselage built in Wichita?

Lots of aviation workers in the Wichita area... it's often called the aviation capital of the world as a result of Cessna (part of Textron), Hawker/Beechcraft (also part of Textron), Learjet/Bombardier, and Spirit Aerosystems all having a significant presence or their corporate headquarters there. ...

Re: Stored Pan-Am 747s

How many aircraft were stored? Were they all stored at Kansas - seems an odd location to store an aircraft? It would be really interesting to see a photo if any exist of the brand new mothballed aircraft. Why 'odd'? Boeing had a large manufacturing facility adjacent to the Wichita airport for many ...

Re: Stored Pan-Am 747s

How many aircraft were stored? Were they all stored at Kansas - seems an odd location to store an aircraft? It would be really interesting to see a photo if any exist of the brand new mothballed aircraft. Why 'odd'? Boeing had a large manufacturing facility adjacent to the Wichita airport for many ...

Re: Stored Pan-Am 747s

I did not know Boeing had a manufacturing facility in Kansas, what did it produce? Every 737 fuselage ever built (including those being built today) are made in Wichita by Boeing , then Spirit, and shipped by rail to Seattle for final assembly. Boeing Seattle has never built a 737 fuselage (except ...

Re: Hawaiian Airlines HAL51 JFK-HNL Diverting to SFO

The plane was on the ground in SFO for about 2 hours before leaving for HNL.

Re: Chinese Spy Balloon

FAA has issued ground stops at 3 airports across Carolinas, and established restricted airspace for “National Defense”. Also, refueling tankers flying near NC & SC coast.

Re: New Kansas City Airport

I'm just waiting for existing airports/terminals to upgrade to the glass jet bridges when replacement for current metal ones is due. I had always heard that reluctance to adopt glass in the U.S. was somehow security-related. Speculation I guess. It has to do with fire codes. The National Fire Prote...

Re: Atlas Air Boeing 747 Makes Emergency Landing At Chicago O'Hare International Airport

They were "concerned" about an "anomaly" in the "cargo compartment". Huh. An "anomaly" that caused an emergency landing. I guess they didn't want to say FIRE in a crowded theatre, or in a public statement that could scare people and invite more media scrutiny...

Re: Braniff Ultra DC8 Experience to South America

In the late 60s and early 70s I non-reved on Braniff DC-8-62s throughout SA. My dad worked for BN, and we usually sat in First. I remember the silver service, baked Alaska, pisco sours. When I was a young teenager I was invited to the cockpit during the flight. We were flying MIA to BOG, and flew ov...

Re: Did Lufthansa ban AirTags from Check In Baggage ?

One more reason to avoid LH. They always seem to be very strict on rules that are not enforced or not followed by other airlines. Two examples: On a LH 747 parked at the ORD gate prior to closing the door, the flight attendants would not allow the use of cell phones. I had been on another airline 74...

Re: Have you flown the same exact aircraft on the same exact route before?

DFW to HNL on Braniff’s 747 N601BN numerous times. Braniff only had one 747 for many years.

Re: Braniff International 1982 - 2022

Per the current 'Airways' issue, which is all about Braniff, the last flight with passengers was BN502, HNL-DFW. The issue has a first-hand account of that last flight from former BN Flight Attendant Eugene White, who worked that final DFW-NHL-DFW 'turn', with the overnight stay in HNL. So the last...

Re: Was there ever a time when no single isle aircraft crossed the Atlantic?

Concorde flew the pond from 1976 to 2003.
I flew a PanAm 707 from JFK to Rome as late as 1980.
I believe current generation narrow bodies were flying before 2003 across the Atlantic.

Re: Why do we

There is nonrev travel on QF, according to google search - so at least some level of standby availability is there. I am not sure if crew commuting to the base is the thing outside of US, so there may be fewer such travellers... I don't think there is a way to buy standby-only ticket in US. Any con...

Re: Why do we "check in?"

If you cancel your flight before departure, your ticket retains value as a voucher for future travel. If you don’t cancel before departure, your ticket has lost all value. I don't think I had a ticket like that in many years. Most fares are use it or loose it, at least before covid hit. This policy...

Re: What is the most collectively hated airliner?

CRJ-200 hands down.

Windows too low.
Poor temperature control; either too hot or too cold.
UA operated then on DEN to EUG. A very long flight.

Re: Why do we "check in?"

But should they have that right? After all you paid for that seat, regardless if you use it or not. If you don't use it, you paid for that seat to be empty. Not for it to be reassigned. If you cancel your flight before departure, your ticket retains value as a voucher for future travel. If you don’...

Re: Why do we "check in?"

Whether we do it in person at the airport, at home on our phones or via an in-airport kiosk, you can't fly until you check in. But why? What mechanisms are set in motion when we "check in"? Or, put another way, what happens if we don't? If you have more than carry on luggage, such as chec...

Re: Condor launch new livery

ACDC8 wrote:

Brings me back to my childhood

Re: Qantas Adding MEL-DFW

Anecdotal evidence: on the SYD-DFW flights I've taken, very few people were heading to Dallas. Things will have changed in the time since my last SYD-DFW flight, but with a full flight, fewer than 25 people had the DFW area as their destination. It was great for me, as it made customs and immigrati...

Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2022

FlyingJhawk wrote:

Most my travel is west coast and there aren't many non-stop options outside of LAX and SEA on DL, SAN on WN, PDX on AS.

Re: Stored Olympic 747 tips on tail due snow in Athens

Noshow wrote:

If somebody wants to preserve it without engines why not put some sandbags in the nose?

Re: Planes Trains and Automobiles Movie

Their flight to Chicago was diverted to Wichita, my hometown. The Wichita airport was not used in the movie, but I have never known what airport was used for Wichita.

Re: Easy trick to identify Citation Jets

The first Citation was certified in Sept 1971, 50 years ago last month. There is little commonality among the models. Some are T-tails (510 Mustang, 525 series, 650, 700 and 750). Most others are cruciform tails (500, 550, 560, 560XL, 680). Models <= 560 are straight wing. Models >= 650 are swept wi...

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

DIRECTFLT wrote:

What does an FAA "push back" actually mean???

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

FlightAware's cancellation stats for Sunday, 10/10/21: Southwest, 1124 flights cancelled, 30% of scheduled ops AA (mainline only), 167, 5% United, 10, rounds to 0% Delta, 3, rounds to 0% The whole 'We have more flights to Florida and so were more heavily impacted' thing just fails a sniff test.. De...

Re: What is the greatest airport in the world?

Having visited 70 countries, I would say Singapore.

Re: Braniff Silver Bullet

My personal webpage of airline fleets (compiled from published sources like The Aviation Hobby Shop, The Aviation Data Centre, etc) shows N9666 was leased by BN from Jan '78 - June '80. Your site is incredible. I cannot tell you how many times I have referenced it over the years! Thank you. I just ...

Re: Early UA 737-200 routes?

Jackbr wrote:

Did they serve the west coast in the 60s?

HRe: Early UA 737-200 routes?

Jackbr wrote:

Did they serve the west coast in the 60s?

Re: Braniff Silver Bullet

aeromoe wrote:

My personal webpage of airline fleets (compiled from published sources like The Aviation Hobby Shop, The Aviation Data Centre, etc) shows N9666 was leased by BN from Jan '78 - June '80.

Re: Right now on Flightaware......

LY777 wrote:

It always amazes me that there are still 732s flying

Re: Cargo doors open inward or outward

727-100 baggage doors open inward.
727-200 open outward.

Re: Scrapping of test aircraft

At Cessna, the prototype Citation aircraft had excape hatches in the lower fuselage with explosive bolts for emergency egress by test pilots.
This makes them non-conformal to type design and cannot be sold.

Re: Why doesn't Boeing build regional jet?

Wingtips56 wrote:

So yes, US carriers operated probably every 737-200 well over 100 seats.

Re: Why doesn't Boeing build regional jet?

miegapele wrote:

Even smallest 737-100 had 120 seats.

Re: Hawaiian Flight 86...Inaugural Flight..enroute

LASVegan wrote:

How long is that flight?? I’m guessing longest US domestic flight ever?

Re: "Dry airspace"

“Before 1949, U.S. airlines didn’t serve alcohol in flight, writes Rust in Flying Across America: The Airline Passenger Experience. But when a few airlines eventually decided to serve alcohol, that didn’t mean it was easy to do so. Because of conflicting state liquor laws, drinks could be served onl...

Re: "Dry airspace"

We fly into MCI all the time and I’ve never heard of such a thing. If it ever was a thing it must have been quite some time ago? The enforcement of Kansas liquor laws on the airlines by the Kansas Attorney General occurred in 1971, 50 years ago. That is why you haven’t heard of it happening flying ...

Re: "Dry airspace"

Great thread and post. What did Braniff do!? My father was a Braniff ticket agent in Wichita,KS from 1959 to 1982, so I non-reved out of ICT many times during the “Vern Miller” years. Departing Wichita, Braniff would not serve drinks until after the plane crossed state lines (OK going to DFW or MO ...

Re: Dallas / Fort Worth (DFW/DAL) Aviation Thread - 2021

Ishrion wrote:

For what it's worth, AA just added DFW to Eugene, a 1,600 mile E-175 flight.

Re: Super Bowl Flyover 2021

Regarding inflight refueling, per the link in the OP: The bombers will depart from their respective bases, join up for the flyover and return to base following the event. Tampa’s own 6th Air Refueling Wing at MacDill Air Force Base will provide air refueling before the flyover, according to Lt. Chri...

Re: Golden Days at DFW

I remember the recorded passenger announcements on the trAAin.
“Please stand back, the doors are about to close.”
Then the doors would close.
AFTER the doors closed, the message was repeated in Spanish.
This went on for many years like this.

Re: Any A318 flights left ?

Yes.

https://flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/A318

Re: Flights Which Went To The Wrong Airport

It has happened numerous times over the years.
http://www.iasa.com.au/folders/Safety_Issues/others/wrong-ways.html

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020 [Ungrounded by FAA 18NOV2020]

UpNAWAy wrote:

The first passenger MAX flight in the US is airbonn right now.

Re: British Airways JFK-MAN

Duplicate post.