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by MEA-707
Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Could the 787 be scaled to create the 797?
Replies: 52
Views: 9213

Re: Could the 787 be scaled to create the 797?

No. You can't just scale things in aviation. It has been done before. In the USSR they just made a 80% sized Tu-104 and called it the Tu-124. Almost everything was 80%, it was 4 instead of 5 abreast, smaller tail and wings, smaller engines, of course things like seats and doors were not shrunk. It ...

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by MEA-707
Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 747 Delivery/Production Thread - 2019
Replies: 117
Views: 29267

Re: 747 Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Starfuryt wrote:
So counting N616UP does that leave 16 UPS frames still left to be delivered?
Combined with the 4 Saudi orders that's 20 747s left?

Is it confirmed these 4 will be for Saudia ? I thought it was for Air Bridge Cargo. On Boeings website it's still an unidentified order.

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by MEA-707
Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737NG Production/Delivery Thread - 2019
Replies: 73
Views: 15252

Re: Boeing 737NG Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Could NG production be restarted if there were some demand from airlines, or will Boeing resist this as a mark of failure/suicide with the MAX? I am sure there are airlines that just want aircraft quickly, regardless of the tech. In theory yes. They won't do top ups of 2 or 3 frames but let's imagi...

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by MEA-707
Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: F50 Questions
Replies: 48
Views: 7131

Re: F50 Questions

So ask a question in regards to your answer about the weight. .. Why are F50s heavier then similar size turboprop such as the Dash 8-300 and ATR-42?? Why would Fokker make them so heavy? Is it for extra strength? Of course when Fokker rolled out the 50 in 1986, they were asked why it was heavier an...

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by MEA-707
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM's first 787-10 Dreamliner (PH-BKA) is out
Replies: 31
Views: 9749

Re: KLM's first 787-10 Dreamliner (PH-BKA) is out

Something different, their Airbus A-330-300s are PH-AK* and now the 787-10s are PH-BK*. I am sure it's a matter of time that there WILL be mistakes when dispatchers think they prepare the PH-AKA to say Lagos while they are actually working on the PH-BKA to Houston as they often look at the last two ...

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by MEA-707
Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FlyArystan aircraft rendering
Replies: 14
Views: 1581

Re: FlyArystan aircraft rendering

They've just added the draft of the A320 over a picture with a completely different airplane. You can even see parts of the former vertical stabilizer in front of the A320 tail. I noticed that too. Let's presume that the A320 is making a low pass over the ramp with the gear retracted it's suddenly ...

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by MEA-707
Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330 Delivery/Production Thread - 2019
Replies: 46
Views: 13551

Re: Airbus A330 Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

How many ceo’s are left to build? Source: https://www.airbus.com/aircraft/market/orders-deliveries.html#file Interesting that the split between the A330-200 and -300 is almost 50/50. I would have guested that the -300 was far more popular. Was the -200 more popular earlier on in the lifecycle? In t...

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by MEA-707
Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737NG Production/Delivery Thread - 2019
Replies: 73
Views: 15252

Re: Boeing 737NG Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Something else noteworthy about the backlog as of the end of January of 93 aircraft, just over half of it is for P-8s at 47. I wonder if all 46 of the other aircraft will actually be delivered? From the A320ceo thread we know that frame has some phantom orders still sitting on the order book. I won...

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by MEA-707
Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Surviving L1011 Numbers?
Replies: 74
Views: 9574

Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

On airlinerlist.com we count 60 extant L1011s. I think that's closer to reality. It includes partially existing frames like the nose at Delta's museum in Atlanta, the wrecks in Thailand, Jordan, Kenya, France, Kansa City, Roswell and other things mentioned above etc.

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by MEA-707
Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First B777-9X of LH in PAE now
Replies: 94
Views: 22757

Re: First B777-9X of LH in PAE now

A factor with the 748i #1437 debacle is that Lufthansa had second thoughts about the 748i and just used an excuse to take one frame less. This time it, oh wait...

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by MEA-707
Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: EK cancels 380's, orders 330neo and 350.
Replies: 214
Views: 34286

Re: Confirmed: EK cancels 380's, orders 330neo and 350.

AirIndia wrote:
SQ789 wrote:
I guess EVZ will be the last A380.

EVV. currently at EVH and so 14 more.


The reason I think EVS and you think EVV is because, while EVH is the most recent delivery, part of the final 14 yet to be delivered are the earlier registrations EVC, EVD and EVG which are not delivered yet.

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by MEA-707
Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: EK cancels 380's, orders 330neo and 350.
Replies: 214
Views: 34286

Re: Confirmed: EK cancels 380's, orders 330neo and 350.

SQ789 wrote:
I guess EVZ will be the last A380.

Presuming they will not skip letters like the Q, if I count 14 more deliveries and a 123 total, I think A6-EVS (speculated MSN: 272) will be the final A380.

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by MEA-707
Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official: Airbus announces A380 production to end in 2021
Replies: 870
Views: 104658

Re: Official: Airbus announces A380 production to end in 2021

I am trying to get the final production numbers. EK has 109 A380s on the moment, so they will take 123 in the end? Their 109th was the 237th built. 6 more (4 for Emirates, 2 for ANA) are flying but still to be delivered. In total 14+3 will be delivered making a production of 254 aircraft? Indeed som...

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by MEA-707
Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: KLM will not get A350s at all
Replies: 46
Views: 17513

Re: KLM will not get A350s at all

I am a pilot for KLM and nobody informed us about a possible cancellation of the A350. Luchtvaartnieuws.nl is just speculating. Maybe they are right, but KLM staff is not informed about this. I am a Airbus pilot for KLM and whilst I haven’t read it black on white. I have heard senior management and...

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by MEA-707
Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: KLM will not get A350s at all
Replies: 46
Views: 17513

Rumour: KLM will not get A350s at all

according to https://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/categorie/2/airlines/grote-vraagtekens-rond-komst-airbus-a350-bij-klm?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook (sorry, in Dutch), insiders have heared that KLM will not take any A350s at all. Probably All of 25 on order will go to Air France and ...

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by MEA-707
Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: California Pacific Cancels All Flights for 2nd Straight Day
Replies: 82
Views: 18858

Re: California Pacific Cancels All Flights for 2nd Straight Day

Such a weird airline. The name alone makes zero sense; ten syllables and totally redundant. Of course it’s Pacific. Then again I’d love it if someone started California Atlantic. Cheers Try explaining that to Asia Atlantic who flew 767s around Thailand but never even remotely came close to the Atla...

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by MEA-707
Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 787 at rate 14...sustainable?
Replies: 12
Views: 3087

Re: 787 at rate 14...sustainable?

Their order book is big enough for about 4 years of production, in the meantime there are new orders so it would be sustainable for at least 5 or 6 years. And it seems Boeing doesn't mind THAT much to increase and decrease production. They were still increasing to 8,3 777s a month a few years ago wh...

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by MEA-707
Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3188
Views: 594342

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=87&v=tBWA7frbpNI body & engine of the plane found under the sea https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=Et5nmci8MtU the plane before boarding True video this time but the Lion Air 737 at 1:18 is an older 737-800. The registration more ...

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by MEA-707
Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3188
Views: 594342

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Since 2000 Southwest has had 7 incidents. Half as many as Lion and probably 100 times more flights. Well they're flying in a country with advanced aviation facilities. Whereas Lion Air isn't. Not an apple to apple comparison. I'm sure the people Lion Air keeps killing will sympathize with this stat...

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by MEA-707
Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First Virgin Atlantic Airbus A350-1000 Spotted in Toulouse
Replies: 53
Views: 16220

Re: First Virgin Atlantic Airbus A350-1000 Spotted in Toulouse

LAX772LR wrote:
First A35K for an airline not based in Asia, no?

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The third airline to get A35Ks after Qatar and Cathay, so yes indeed.

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by MEA-707
Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 281
Views: 74754

Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

RobK wrote:
TC957 wrote:
l/n 1567 is the non-flying testbed.


Incorrect. The frame details were already posted on the 777X thread.

I read the 777X thread and nowhere was anything mentioned which LNs are which frames. Can you post the link to where these details are?

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by MEA-707
Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 281
Views: 74754

Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Sorry if it's discussed before.

The non flying 777-9 testbed, does it have a line-number? Or was it squeezed in on the production line between two flyers?
And will #1567, #1574 etc all be flying ?

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by MEA-707
Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 20 dead in Junkers Ju 52 crash in Switzerland
Replies: 147
Views: 36619

Re: 20 dead in Junkers Ju 52 crash in Switzerland

Thanks, FW200. Yeah, a too tight emergency turn away from the ridge is a good theory. I also checked FR24, and it shows the last flight as "ZRH to n/a" on Aug 3. The track for that flight is partial, perhaps due to lack of coverage. There is no record of accident day (Aug 4) flight. http:...

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by MEA-707
Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 20 dead in Junkers Ju 52 crash in Switzerland
Replies: 147
Views: 36619

Re: 20 dead in Junkers Ju 52 crash in Switzerland

Thanks, FW200. Yeah, a too tight emergency turn away from the ridge is a good theory. I also checked FR24, and it shows the last flight as "ZRH to n/a" on Aug 3. The track for that flight is partial, perhaps due to lack of coverage. There is no record of accident day (Aug 4) flight. http:...

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by MEA-707
Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 20 dead in Junkers Ju 52 crash in Switzerland
Replies: 147
Views: 36619

Re: Where Eagles Dare: Ju-52 in a deadly crash today

flyingturtle wrote:
There is still no indication about how many passengers were on board. This could well be the most significant air disaster in Switzerland since 1990, when Alitalia flight 404 crashed. :(
David

There was a Crossair ARJ crash in november 2001 with 24 casualties....

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by MEA-707
Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF/KLM mulls JV with Air Europa
Replies: 12
Views: 2841

Re: AF/KLM mulls JV with Air Europa

Air Europa is a bit low costish and drab perhaps. All Skyteam airlines: Air France, KLM, Delta (transatlantic), AeroMexico, Alitalia all serve free meals (or snacks if the flight is under ar. two hours) and (alcoholic) drinks. Also they didn't let me in their lounge while according to Skyteam rules ...

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by MEA-707
Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW Air appears to be axing TLV
Replies: 26
Views: 5994

Re: WOW Air appears to be axing TLV

Offset by low utilisation. Yep. But clearly better to be coordinated with its inbound and outbound connections in KEF or it'd be even more costly. :checkmark: Pretty much it in a nutshell. Although, some of Icelandair's flights (such as SEA, PDX, SFO) RON at those airports for almost a whole 24 hou...

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by MEA-707
Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Dornier 328/328Jet to be back in manufacturing
Replies: 48
Views: 9612

Re: Dornier 328/328Jet to be back in manufacturing

It's because of low acquisition costs that Rex and Sun-Air have large 340 and 328 fleets, they probably would have bought Q400s or ATR-42s if they could. Plus, the acquisition cost of the 328 might be lower but with the ATR-42 you know you can easily sell the aircraft, expand with bigger family memb...

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by MEA-707
Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 2 more A350 for Air Caraïbes and French Bee
Replies: 25
Views: 4307

Re: 2 more A350 for Air Caraïbes and French Bee

BestWestern wrote:
Is this the first follow on order for the 350?

More airlines did top up 350 orders? Best example is United but also Air France/KLM, Ethiopian and lessors like ALC

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by MEA-707
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SkyBus Jet Cargo DC-8 Fleet
Replies: 10
Views: 2025

Re: SkyBus Jet Cargo DC-8 Fleet

MDGLongBeach wrote:
MEA-707 wrote:
MO11 wrote:



Was the flight done only once? Or did they do it on like a monthly occassion?

Only once! The guy tried to do a second flight but that one wasn't selling fast enough so he pulled out.

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by MEA-707
Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SkyBus Jet Cargo DC-8 Fleet
Replies: 10
Views: 2025

Re: SkyBus Jet Cargo DC-8 Fleet

I just found out about SkyBus Jet Cargo, a small cargo airline out of the US. Peruvian, not US. Oh and here’s one last question on the same topic: what happened to the ATI DC-8s? They did the jet tours from Long Beach to Sacramento, then they stopped coming one day. Just a bit curious I suppose. Th...

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by MEA-707
Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330neo for the Lufthansa Group?
Replies: 43
Views: 10505

Re: A330neo for the Lufthansa Group

I am sure Airbus would make them a special deal for the Hawaiian 330-800s of which some are already being built. I can see the group eventually taking some, the 8/9 would work for Austrian Airlines and Brussels Airlines which have small widebodies now, and also perhaps Swiss and Lufthansa, their 330...

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by MEA-707
Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS announces order for 14 747-8F and 4 767F
Replies: 169
Views: 25929

Re: UPS announces order for 14 747-8F and 4 767F

Any chance Boeing will increase the production rate? With the current rate of 6 a year they can only build the UPS birds, with 3 to 5 at the most for ABC until 2022 (not sure how solid their order still is). It will be unattractive for other airlines to wait that long. If they want to offer producti...

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by MEA-707
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Last Ever Aircraft Fokker Built
Replies: 2
Views: 1302

Re: The Last Ever Aircraft Fokker Built

I know PK-TNR quite well, I went on a roundtrip from Halim to Dumai in october 2016 just with the purpose of flying on this rare aircraft! Great flight, experienced crew, the pilot was involved and many ferry flights of Fokkers since the 1970s. That said, while it has the 'highest' construction numb...

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by MEA-707
Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Plane Crash in Northern Saskatchewan
Replies: 20
Views: 9500

Re: Plane Crash in Northern Saskatchewan

I am almost sure it was C-GWEA (msn 240) as the flight/routing matches Flightradar24.

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by MEA-707
Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A320neo family production thread - 2015-2017 (part 7)
Replies: 2436
Views: 399198

Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

speedygonzales wrote:
MEA-707 wrote:
pugman211 wrote:
IIRC, he works at the wing factory in Broughton, so it's what he sees at his work, still some time away from delivery.

Makes perfect sense in that case. He's probably working on MSN 8200-8300 already and I expect a quick further increase in NEO production as the CEO orderbook is drying up.

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by MEA-707
Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A320neo family production thread - 2015-2017 (part 7)
Replies: 2436
Views: 399198

Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

There is definitely a ramp up in neo activity. It's approx an 80neo/20ceo split at present on the line and has been for the past 3-4 weeks. Also, a 50/50 split between A320/A321. How did you count? Recent first flights or deliveries? If we look at the MSNs they are working on at this moment: 7901 t...

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by MEA-707
Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Things the Aviation world lost on 10/29/17
Replies: 20
Views: 3670

Re: Things the Aviation world lost on 10/29/17

And not to forget Meridiana retiring the MD-80.
They were the last European scheduled airline flying the MD-80. Of course there are a few left in Bulgaria but most surviving MDs fly in the USA nowadays.

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by MEA-707
Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer considers building new turboprop aircraft
Replies: 96
Views: 13225

Re: Embraer considers building new turboprop aircraft

Low hour SF3s? Where, we would like to know.[/quote]

About a dozen of American Eagle's SF3's which were parked around 2004 only had around 10 year service and 22.000 landings and hours on the clock, they could easily fly for another 15 years but no buyers were found and they ended up being scrapped.

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by MEA-707
Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer considers building new turboprop aircraft
Replies: 96
Views: 13225

Re: Embraer considers building new turboprop aircraft

The market is crying out for a low cost, modern 30-ish seater, look how many airlines still fly the Saab 340, J41, Embraer 120 etc. Really? For years here were still second hand low hour Saab 340s, J41s and Embraer 120s to be found on the second hand market without that much demand. I don't expect ...

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by MEA-707
Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking/Production Part 18
Replies: 2065
Views: 206381

Re: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking/Production Part 18

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From the last remaining 747-8I, without a customer, two engines are removed and taken to building 40-54 (propulsion systems) Any c...

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by MEA-707
Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SV to have 15 777-200ERs put up for sale/lease
Replies: 64
Views: 13345

Re: SV to have 15 777-200ERs put up for sale/lease

Some posters suggest a freighter conversion. That will not happen, it seems the pax 777 floor is too weak meaning that freighter conversion should include a complicated floor modification, which makes it not worth the trouble. You see even FedEx and UPS now investing more in new widebodies compared ...

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by MEA-707
Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X - Updated Information And Developments
Replies: 2650
Views: 260022

Re: Boeing 777X - Updated Information And Developments

It seems my earlier post didn't appear, so sorry if this question was replied before. As the first 777X goes into final production by the end of 2017, someone should know already what the first LN will be. Based on the current 777 production I would guess something between LN1540 and 1550. 1550 woul...

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by MEA-707
Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X - Updated Information And Developments
Replies: 2650
Views: 260022

Re: Boeing 777X - Updated Information And Developments

Perhaps it's posted before, I didn't read everything, but given that the assembly is due to start by the end of 2017, a Line Number of the first frame should be known already? I would guess it would be around LN 1550, but perhaps they start recounting at LN 1 for this version?

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by MEA-707
Fri May 26, 2017 4:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did DL acquire the A350 and A330 Neo?
Replies: 149
Views: 35601

Re: Did Delta Make a Mistake Acquiring the A350 and A330 Neo?

Not mentioned yet is that the 9 abreast A350 or 8 abreast A330neo has a superior Y passenger experience compared to the 9 abreast 787. With competition on most of their markets, I think Delta weighed that factor in.

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by MEA-707
Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Antonov 26 crashed in South Sudan
Replies: 21
Views: 5307

Re: Fokker 50 crashed in South Sudan

Indeed the tail is on an An-26. Can't change my post unfortunately, moderators can call it 'Antonov 26 crashed...' please

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by MEA-707
Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Antonov 26 crashed in South Sudan
Replies: 21
Views: 5307

Antonov 26 crashed in South Sudan

http://www.airlive.net/breaking-passeng ... uth-sudan/
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It seems 44 people died when a Fokker 50 of South Supreme Airlines crashed today at Wau after a flight from Jubba. RIP to all but let's hope for survivors. Source: http://www.airlive.net/breaking-passeng ... uth-sudan/

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by MEA-707
Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What airlines still fly factory-delivered 737 classics?
Replies: 29
Views: 7863

Re: What airlines still fly factory-delivered 737 classics?

Running thru a production spreadsheet I also find LOT with a few 737-400s, Kenya Airways with a few 300s now for cargo or their Jambojet, TAROM, Thai Airways, Qantas and Air India still have a few cargo 737s. Even Air Zimbabwe and TAAG with a few factory delivered 737-200s and some non airline opera...

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by MEA-707
Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will The Embraer 135/145 Have A Second Life?
Replies: 24
Views: 14790

Re: RE: Will The Embraer 135/145 Have A Second Life?

I think it will fit into a similar genre of the A380. Lemme finish!   I think you'll still see a trickle of orders / needs for longer, thinner routes to feed hubs. Ones that are too long for turboprops. Other than that, yea, I think the 50 seaters are on thier fourteenth and a half minute of fame. ...

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by MEA-707
Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What will WestJet do with its B736 or older B737-7s?
Replies: 15
Views: 3328

Re: What will WestJet do with its B736 or older B737-7s?

I think Southwest want the rest of the 73Gs, but WS will keep the 736s a few more years and then they'll be scrapped.

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