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by MEA-707
Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 89
Views: 30362

Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Great list. My remarks; 298 was an Air Canada 330-343E ntu, 1661 was a reallocated 330 for Singapore Airlines.
I also more and more doubt 1955 1974 and 1980 will be built as no information is reported on these so that makes 66 MSN's not used.

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by MEA-707
Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The A350XWB at St Maarten (SXM)
Replies: 41
Views: 9573

Re: The A350XWB at St Marteen(SXM)

flight152 wrote:
Why are we still calling it XWB? Just curious?

Worse, he called the island St Marteen but it's St Maarten !

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by MEA-707
Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 223
Views: 61120

Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

masonite wrote:
So FedEx has a 767 named "Jaxon" and a 777 named "Jaxson"? I have several comments, but I'll just hold my tongue.

I think it's a nice touch that they name them after their employee's children. Might be a bit condescending if you blame their staff for these choices.

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by MEA-707
Fri May 28, 2021 4:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pratt & Whitney GTF Engines Now Power More Than 1,000 Aircraft
Replies: 52
Views: 8694

Re: Pratt & Whitney GTF Engines Now Power More Than 1,000 Aircraft

Did they take the Covid groundings into account as a factor? Of course fewer flights are included in the dispatch figure, but with this more sedate schedule of 2020-early 2021, an airline can choose not to schedule a certain aircraft for the day or do a dry run on it when there is a tiny doubt if th...

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by MEA-707
Wed May 26, 2021 9:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 504
Views: 117573

Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Another Double Delivery, Fiji Airways has taken delivery of DQ-FAE and flew away today - MAX 8 https://www.flightradar24.com/FJI2201/27d476e8 DQ-FAH is also scheduled to depart tomorrow. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/dq-fah It seems that deliveries are starting to pick up. How many ha...

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by MEA-707
Sat May 08, 2021 11:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2021
Replies: 124
Views: 22874

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2021

I still don't get why Embraer doesn't try and chop a slice of fuselage and weight to get the 175E2 within the scope limits. In the USA there are more than 1000 E170/175s, CRJ700 but also smaller CRJ200s and E145s which could and would be replaced with it, even if the bit too big engine will only giv...

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by MEA-707
Thu May 06, 2021 4:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New suggestions as to MH370-'Depressed' Pilot made deliberate moves
Replies: 21
Views: 4600

Re: New suggestions as to MH370-'Depressed' Pilot made deliberate moves

I am not a conspiracist normally. But one really needs to look into a much bigger picture. The key word is: Made in China 2025 Semiconductor There is a crazy conspiracy theory on this: https://newspunch.com/rothschild-semiconductor-mh370/ I don't believe that is true. However, if you add everything...

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by MEA-707
Mon May 03, 2021 11:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9
Replies: 271
Views: 52933

Re: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9

G'day Do you think economy on the 787 will be 3-3-3? Further on the way to the bottom I would not be surprised if they will configure the A350 ten abreast in economy. All recent developments at LH have not really been to enhance customer experience, but rather the opposite. I used to like them, hav...

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by MEA-707
Sun May 02, 2021 10:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 223
Views: 61120

Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Captaincurious wrote:
So only 777X and 777F is continuing production?

Yes, the last 300ERs (LN 1695) just rolled out, the last 200LR a few months ago.
In THEORY if an airline insists in getting more 777ER's Boeing can make them, but that seems very unlikely at this point.

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by MEA-707
Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 223
Views: 61120

Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

I almost missed the last two Qatari 777F's to be delivered. At April 20th A7-BFZ made her first (B1) flight with callsign BOE296 via Moses Lake towards Portland for paint, see : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE296/history/20210420/2100Z/KMWH/KPDX A taxi-out picture at Paine Field of A7-BFZ c...

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by MEA-707
Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ecuatoriana coming back
Replies: 25
Views: 8867

Re: Ecuatoriana coming back

Ironic that Ecuatoriana was best known for their colorful 707s and 720s, and now they choose a Boeing model number just in between.

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by MEA-707
Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 504
Views: 117573

Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Still no sign of the first Caribbean Airlines MAX (9Y-CAL)? :) A388 No sign of it and it may not even be in final assembly. Boeing is skipping frames like some Chinese carriers. There are also 2 Buzz Air frames that have not seen the light of day and a SWA frame as well. Even though several LN#'s a...

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by MEA-707
Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 233
Views: 88342

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Yes, 21 unbuilt MSNs. 34 built but in storage units currently. Thanks for the correction! :duck: Are you sure about this "34 built, but in storage units currently"? Could you list the MSNs for these 34 as I can't come up with near that number. Thanks! I am not him but they are probably th...

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by MEA-707
Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 233
Views: 88342

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Here goes, there are 15 official "Not Built" MSNs,....... Close, but no cigar :D Not Built MSN's: Aeroflot: 242, 253 American: 108, 131, 156, 166 Ethiopian: 377 Hong Kong A/l: 384 LATAM: 139, 152, 171, 367 Qatar: 275, 353, 361 SAS: 360 United: 194, 222 Unknown: 288, 304, 317 Some news for...

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by MEA-707
Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 233
Views: 88342

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

I feel you guys are overflowing this thread a bit with the daily A-350 movements. I guess if people are interested in the 8th testflight of this and that, they will already look at the indeed lovely aibfamilyflights/A350 website daily. I would like to see the bigger picture here, more analytical. Fo...

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by MEA-707
Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 19 seaters in Europe
Replies: 59
Views: 7301

Re: 19 seaters in Europe

In USA, Canada and some other countries like Brazil and Mexico, the 19 seaters were very important especially between 1980 and 1995. I think of the combined fleet of DHC-6 Twin Otter, Bandeirante, Do-228, SW Metro, Beech 1900, Let-410, Jetstream 31/32, about 2/3rds of the 2500 civil versions were fl...

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by MEA-707
Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 71
Views: 15138

Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

I am sure Airbus offered Delta the number they are getting so they can clear out all A321ceo specific parts they have in stock for this end of the line order. If Iran Air wants their A321s again, they would no doubt choose the NEO's if they can, perhaps the long range versions. Also will remain its ...

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by MEA-707
Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 71
Views: 15138

Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Indeed one more 319ceo to be completed and delivered to Tibet Airways: msn 10361. N119DN was delivered to Delta on 8 april instead, and N122DN today. This makes only 13 more A321s for Delta. The already known to be delivered : N109DN (9588), N116DN (10121) , N118DN (10140) , N120DN (10185), plus 9 t...

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by MEA-707
Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The WestJet Thread - 2021
Replies: 212
Views: 38979

Re: The WestJet Thread - 2021

What is the mid term plan for Encore? The Q400 production line is closing soon, probably they don't do a last minute top up order. That means they have to look at other types to expand or eventually replace their fleet, has the A220 been an option?

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by MEA-707
Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2021
Replies: 124
Views: 22874

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2021

The 8th. E190-E2 on March 12nd. The plane is the msn 19020046, prefix HB-AZH. The Swiss carrier will also add 4 brand new E195-E2s on European summer. Source: https://twitter.com/embraer?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwxIRk0UUAElImD?format=jpg&am...

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by MEA-707
Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 504
Views: 117573

Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Great Ryanair update ! It seems the deliveries are a bit stalling again. I imagined they'd deliver 30-40 each month to clear away the storage fields, but march is very slow so far. About half of the stored aircraft are due for airlines like GOL, WestJet, FlyDubai, TUI, Icelandair who have cleared th...

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by MEA-707
Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 25 years Fokker bankcrupt
Replies: 17
Views: 2583

Re: 25 years Fokker bankcrupt

They had arguably the best and most advanced planes available at the time. I agree with the analysis, except for that sentence. Bear in mind the F50 was just an upgrade of the F27, the F100 of the F28; Fokker had only two Type Certificates in their portfolio. By the mid-90s, both were getting old. ...

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by MEA-707
Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 127
Views: 37300

Re: Boeing 747 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Does that then bring the total number of 748's built and delivered to 156 at line closure? I am almost sure it will be 155; LN 1420 to 1574. 1563 is the highest delivered 747. There will follow 7 for UPS and 4 for Atlas, so 11 more new ones to be delivered. That would make the last 20 shipsets from...

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by MEA-707
Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DC-8 survivors thread 2021
Replies: 35
Views: 5667

Re: DC-8 survivors thread 2021

>>>>Trans Air Cargo Service- 3<<<< Saw one of these taking off at MIA last month. I am sure you mean Skybus of Peru, that was in MIA lately. The Congolese airline Trans Air Cargo and most other Congolese freighters don't leave its region, mostly seen in Congo and South Africa.

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by MEA-707
Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2021
Replies: 48
Views: 15141

Re: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2021

The position the 767 is in now reminds me a bit of the 777 a few years ago. The orderbook was shrinking while production remained high and then within 2 years they had to lower the rate from 8 to 2 a month. The same might happen to the 767 by 2024, that they will have to return to one a month mostly...

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by MEA-707
Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SLM new 777 and ETOPS
Replies: 86
Views: 18527

Re: SLM new 777 and ETOPS

Sounds like getting rid of the A340 was a bit of a false economy. Why do they even exist to begin with? KLM is more than enough capacity surely? Without them KLM would have a monopoly on Europe to PBM....and would nodoubt charge monopoly prices. That’s still not a reason to set up your own loss-mak...

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by MEA-707
Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Has a Problem: The Boeing 767
Replies: 136
Views: 23465

Re: Delta Has a Problem: The Boeing 767

I really don't see the problem. They have types of every size to upgrade or downgrade to. The 767-400ERs, A330-200s, -300s, -900s, A350-900s can all be used on former 767 routes depending on the demand. If these are all too big and the flight isn't too long, they can use A-321XLR's which they probab...

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by MEA-707
Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CRJ900 N840SK - The last CRJ produced
Replies: 101
Views: 17669

Re: N840SK the last crj900

Any photos of it yet? What is the total tally across all CRJ variants? . The Wikipedia figures quoted in another answer are wrong. I do production lists and the correct figures are, including the smaller CRJ100/200: 1104 CRJ 100/200/C850 347 CRJ 700 499 CRJ 900 (including the 705) 65 CRJ 1000 (incl...

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by MEA-707
Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 504
Views: 117573

Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Hi everyone, I look through this thread a few times a week and really appreciate the work that goes into it. As someone who doesn't really understand how the production and/or line numbers work, could someone help me out? Taking a random selection (screenshot below) of MAX aircraft from the planesp...

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by MEA-707
Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 737 Max - What Airlines Really Pay
Replies: 84
Views: 12346

Re: 737 Max - What Airlines Really Pay

Good to read, all makes a lot of sense. Maybe one thing; what if Southwest depreciates differently now? 25 Years seems pretty long nowadays as they are scrapping 15 year old 73Gs already. Also it makes sense to book an extra charge at the start because 2nd hand customized frames are always worth les...

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by MEA-707
Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 504
Views: 117573

Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Any info on what LNs are exiting the FAL at this time? It SEEMS that Boeing is cherry picking fuselages in the 7900-8000 region to complete for which airlines are willing to take delivery. For instance there is still no sightings for LNs 7904 to 7908 and many others after that, while Alaska (LN 796...

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by MEA-707
Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2021
Replies: 124
Views: 22874

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2021

Other question as we have someone from Embraer on board; is the production line of the Emb-190/195 (E1) closed? After #773 was delivered to Hop last september it seems there is no more activity there to be expected?

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by MEA-707
Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: French shipping group CMA CGM buys four used A330-200F freighter
Replies: 36
Views: 10334

Re: French shipping group CMA CGM buys four used A330-200F freighter

A320B737NGCapt wrote:
Well the first one has been registered with Air Belgium as OO-CMA.

So it's officially confirmed that CMA CGM and Air Belgium are cooperating and it's the same fleet and project?

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by MEA-707
Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 223
Views: 61120

Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

A country like Turkmenistan mainly makes orders like that for political and prestige reasons. Economics are not a priority. Perhaps earlier Boeing orders smoothened the US-Turkmenistan relationship. Their dictator wants to take delivery of a new aircraft, even while the type is a bit obsolete (compa...

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by MEA-707
Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 89
Views: 30362

Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

No 48 in 2 years will be a stretch, but all widebody types are struggling now. The 787 and A350 also have dodgy orders like from the Hainan group and Asiana and parked planes like the Norwegians depressing the market. I can't imagine they will give up production on the A330 now, I can see some futur...

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by MEA-707
Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 233
Views: 88342

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

DY789 wrote:
Thank you for the updates as ever!

Who is the next "new customer" to accept the A35K?

Starlux of Taiwan is the ONLY airline I can think of who has -1000s on order but doesn't have any yet. Or does anyone know more.

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by MEA-707
Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Odds of buying older generation jets like 707, DC-10/MD-11?
Replies: 56
Views: 7384

Re: Odds of buying older generation jets like 707, DC-10/MD-11?

There is a big gap between the last revenu pax flights and your question. In 2020 you had some opportunities but now probably not. 707: Travolta's is VIP configured and allocated for Australia. But they have one there already, I guess if you pay a few million for refurbishment you can have it. Iran ...

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by MEA-707
Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: De Havilland to "Pause" Q400 production, future uncertain
Replies: 122
Views: 19626

Re: De Havilland to "Pause" Q400 production, future uncertain

I am surprised they didn't stop sooner. The only big order, SpiceJet, is very problematic to get paid for. There are also about 100 Q400s available on the market, the whole fleets of FlyBe, Austrian, Eurowings, Air Baltic are or will soon be parked by their operators. That can't help much.

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by MEA-707
Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 127
Views: 37300

Re: Boeing 747 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

So what then is the total number of 748's built/to be built? If L/N 1420(?) is the first, then its 155 total? It also looks like to finish the final four (at current rate) production will end in 2023 instead of 2022? Indeed 155 748s to be built. Useless fact: one less than the 717 I think they can ...

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by MEA-707
Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 71
Views: 15138

Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

I'm expecting Delta wants to change it's order, because they don't need the A321CEO's now. But Airbus might be stuborn because of current low production and specific CEO parts already produced. We shall see what happens. I expect 2021 to be the last year A32xCEO's are produced by Airbus. Delta orde...

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by MEA-707
Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sriwijaya Air 737-500 (SJ182 CGK-PNK) crashes shortly after takeoff
Replies: 863
Views: 251661

Re: Sriwijaya Air 737-500 (SJ182 CGK-PNK) crashes shortly after takeoff

My guts feeling think of these possibilities: 1- Pilot suicide or intruder in cockpit. Many major accidents in the last years like MH370, Germanwings 9545, LAM, earlier Egyptair 990, RAM, Silkair turned out to be something like that. 2- (Part of) stabilizer or wing broke off 3- Spatial disorientatio...

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by MEA-707
Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 127
Views: 37300

Re: Boeing 747 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

The ship has left the dock already. Per previous threads IIRC Triumph (or maybe someone else) is no longer making major assemblies for the 747 and Boeing doesn't seem interested in finding any new suppliers. Indeed Triumph etc already stopped building 747 parts. But somewhere someone here should kn...

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by MEA-707
Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 4 MEA aircraft damaged by gunfire at BEY
Replies: 31
Views: 8586

Re: 4 MEA aircraft damaged by gunfire at BEY

I sometimes wonder why insurance companies let brand new A-321neo's and 330s fly and especially be parked in places like TIP and BEY. Insurance was the main reason MEA could only fly old 707s til the civil war was over in 1991. Maybe the low interest rates make them more disposable.

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by MEA-707
Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 192
Views: 51890

Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

I might be wrong a few frames but I believe 398 official deliveries so far.

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by MEA-707
Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dr. Peters to scrap additional A380s
Replies: 147
Views: 26237

Re: Dr. Peters to scrap additional A380s

The A380 saga is very sad. I am struggling to think of an airliner with such a short lifespan; a sad mix of misjudgement, ego and circumstance. I think even the Lockheed Tri-Star had a a longer career with airlines. Can anyone else think of an airliner with a shorter life? The DC-7. But you were pr...

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by MEA-707
Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 298
Views: 76424

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Firing order update from this link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FH3Y2-vRUgojntPkCSJI5Pd-15rsJ1a0SFCRaT-iqgo/edit#gid=2 The one of interesting is LN1159 which is the first for Iraqi Airways. Also interesting is it's confirmed in it that LN1129 will be the last 787 built in Everett, alrea...

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by MEA-707
Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 337
Views: 89207

Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Corrected version Boeing have today released their November updates. One 777-300ER was delivered in the month , for British from the Novus order. There have been no cancellations or conversions. Unfilled orders for the 777-300ER now stand at 16, according to Boeing figures ; Aeroflot - 3 BOC ( for ...

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by MEA-707
Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Japanese official suggests ANA-JAL merger
Replies: 39
Views: 10767

Re: Japanese official suggests ANA-JAL merger

A merger is probably unlikely in the near term as this would lead to a domestic monopoly. Members of this board seriously need to take a break and study what a "monopoly" ACTUALLY is....... it's got to be the single most misunderstood and misused concept here. If they merge they would hol...

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by MEA-707
Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MSN jump in Boeing 737s
Replies: 18
Views: 5503

Re: MSN jump in Boeing 737s

No the MSNs have less and less in common with the sequence of built. They allocate them at time of orders, some orders get long delays and that's how you could see MSN 31280, a 737-800 for American, being ordered around year 2000 but only built in december 2017, is built next after MSN 64068 a 737-8...

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by MEA-707
Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:25 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Embraer KC-390 News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 238
Views: 64311

Re: Embraer KC-390 News and Discussion Thread

Congrats to EMB on the Hungary sale. That happened very quickly since things sort of split from Boeing (I think Boeing is still involved on the military side). Plausibly, on partnerships, I could see Airbus as a good fit in addition to India, as the A400M production is ending. They have lost piles ...

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