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by MEA-707
Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:51 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What airliner do you wish you could have flown on but never got the chance?
Replies: 31
Views: 1211

Re: What airliner do you wish you could have flown on but never got the chance?

Some people here are dramaqueens... they can easily book an A380, 767 or A340-600 without even leaving their continent. I miss most: Caravelle, Fairchild 27/FH-227 (had some Fokker F-27s), Nord 262, G-159, Concorde, Tu 104/114/124/144, Comet, VC-10, Trident, Convair 880/990, Convair 240/340/440 (pis...

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by MEA-707
Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Reports Profit in Q2
Replies: 17
Views: 1764

Re: Boeing Reports Profit in Q2

Must be some creative accounting going on that they can present a profit, with no 787 deliveries and low numbers for the rest, problems with the testing/certification of the 787 and 777 etc they can't make actual money at this time; lots of costs and little money paid by customers.

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by MEA-707
Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Al Baker’s (Qatar's CEO) wants to grow Oneworld Alliance
Replies: 65
Views: 10666

Re: Al Baker’s (Qatar's CEO) wants to grow Oneworld Alliance

America's Then a few things they should look at: WestJet (probably heading towards Skyteam). If they can't get them, they might look at Porter or Flair to dip a toe in Canada again. JetBlue, they work with AA so they might be a done deal? Maybe they should try to get either COPA or Avianca, with Lat...

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by MEA-707
Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Mongolian Airways Fokker 50 Ferry Flight through The Bahamas
Replies: 6
Views: 2865

Re: Mongolian Airways Fokker 50 Ferry Flight through The Bahamas

according to Skyliner the planned route is LIM-PTY-NAS-YHZ-YYR-KEF-TOS-HEL-GUW-PLX-ULN , with GUW = Atyrau and PLX = Semey, Kazakhstan. That said, our Skyliner friends sometimes have the tendency to write down planned things as final facts. Indeed Hunnu and Mongolian AirLINES were long term Fokker 5...

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by MEA-707
Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021
Replies: 345
Views: 48820

Re: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021

Azimuth has ordered 6 A220-300s directly at the MAKS airshow. Kind of surprising to me, it seems that the local carriers in Russia are lately more or less forced to fly the SSJ and later the MC-21. Azimuth has the SSJ already. But probably they could convince the autorities they need the A220, or th...

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by MEA-707
Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:47 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Boeing KC-46 News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 76
Views: 16547

Re: Boeing KC-46 News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2021

I just saw on planespotters.net that LN 1223, 19-46061, is not built. It's very rare for both Boeing and the USAF to skip a frame and number. Does anyone know why, or know it's a mistake? Other question, are all the early frames like 1065, 1066, 1067, 1069, 1091, 1092 still earmarked for delivery to...

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by MEA-707
Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MHI mulling restarting CRJ production
Replies: 79
Views: 10571

Re: MHI mulling restarting CRJ production

I think they should look at the 900 instead. It still sold reasonably and has good ASM costs. The 700 didn't sell at all for the last 8 years even while still available. Lufthansa had theirs for sale, less than 10 years old, well overhauled and most ended up scrapped because almost noone wanted them.

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by MEA-707
Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SLM new 777 and ETOPS
Replies: 98
Views: 24131

Re: SLM new 777 and ETOPS

The question is, who is leasing out their aircraft and crew to a company so deep in debt, only to be in the back of the line of creditors if SLM does fold? No doubt World Atlantic, Air Belgium and others negotiated to make sure they get paid, probably SLM has to put a deposit on a blocked bank acco...

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by MEA-707
Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SLM new 777 and ETOPS
Replies: 98
Views: 24131

Re: SLM new 777 and ETOPS

The question is, who is leasing out their aircraft and crew to a company so deep in debt, only to be in the back of the line of creditors if SLM does fold? No doubt World Atlantic, Air Belgium and others negotiated to ake sure they get paid, probably SLM has to put a deposit on a blocked bank accou...

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by MEA-707
Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: 737 Freighter ditches in water off HNL
Replies: 371
Views: 87149

Re: 737 Cargo in water at HNL

is it possible they experienced problems with the engine, then shut down the wrong one like we've seen in the past. Hence had two non working engines? I don't think that's the case here. He said the other engine was now running hot. I think it still can be the case here. They might have shut down t...

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by MEA-707
Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 254
Views: 75174

Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Based on this website, Aerolfot will indeed take delivery of their final three B77W. http://www.rusaviainsider.com/aeroflot-groups-new-strategy-gains-traction/ Article is dated 31 May. What is the 3rd? They only have 2 left. Seems like an unreliable source. Without doubt they are talking of VQ-BFN ...

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by MEA-707
Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 727
Views: 176770

Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

The first MAX delivery flight of July 2021 has departed BFI. According to flightradar24, Ryanair 737-8-200 EI-HGO departed Boeing Field at 1:21 AM PDT today 7-1-21, enroute to Dublin (DUB), operating as Ryaniar Flight 820. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ei-hgo Wow a box fresh 737! When...

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by MEA-707
Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:13 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Cargo doors open inward or outward
Replies: 26
Views: 3566

Re: Cargo doors open inward or outward

In 26 years of Handling in one way or another, all I can remember is that all the main cargo doors on wide body’s open outwards. Some Electras had the door that opened like a 767/DC-10/L-1011 pax door. I remember these from my Reeve Aleutian flights. It opened upward electrically (no manual power n...

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by MEA-707
Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 114
Views: 38980

Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Great list. My remarks; 298 was an Air Canada 330-343E ntu, 1661 was a reallocated 330 for Singapore Airlines.
I also more and more doubt 1955 1974 and 1980 will be built as no information is reported on these so that makes 66 MSN's not used.

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by MEA-707
Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The A350XWB at St Maarten (SXM)
Replies: 41
Views: 9755

Re: The A350XWB at St Marteen(SXM)

flight152 wrote:
Why are we still calling it XWB? Just curious?

Worse, he called the island St Marteen but it's St Maarten !

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by MEA-707
Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 254
Views: 75174

Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

masonite wrote:
So FedEx has a 767 named "Jaxon" and a 777 named "Jaxson"? I have several comments, but I'll just hold my tongue.

I think it's a nice touch that they name them after their employee's children. Might be a bit condescending if you blame their staff for these choices.

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by MEA-707
Fri May 28, 2021 4:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pratt & Whitney GTF Engines Now Power More Than 1,000 Aircraft
Replies: 52
Views: 9142

Re: Pratt & Whitney GTF Engines Now Power More Than 1,000 Aircraft

Did they take the Covid groundings into account as a factor? Of course fewer flights are included in the dispatch figure, but with this more sedate schedule of 2020-early 2021, an airline can choose not to schedule a certain aircraft for the day or do a dry run on it when there is a tiny doubt if th...

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by MEA-707
Wed May 26, 2021 9:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 727
Views: 176770

Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Another Double Delivery, Fiji Airways has taken delivery of DQ-FAE and flew away today - MAX 8 https://www.flightradar24.com/FJI2201/27d476e8 DQ-FAH is also scheduled to depart tomorrow. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/dq-fah It seems that deliveries are starting to pick up. How many ha...

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by MEA-707
Sat May 08, 2021 11:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2021
Replies: 129
Views: 25222

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2021

I still don't get why Embraer doesn't try and chop a slice of fuselage and weight to get the 175E2 within the scope limits. In the USA there are more than 1000 E170/175s, CRJ700 but also smaller CRJ200s and E145s which could and would be replaced with it, even if the bit too big engine will only giv...

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by MEA-707
Thu May 06, 2021 4:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New suggestions as to MH370-'Depressed' Pilot made deliberate moves
Replies: 21
Views: 4710

Re: New suggestions as to MH370-'Depressed' Pilot made deliberate moves

I am not a conspiracist normally. But one really needs to look into a much bigger picture. The key word is: Made in China 2025 Semiconductor There is a crazy conspiracy theory on this: https://newspunch.com/rothschild-semiconductor-mh370/ I don't believe that is true. However, if you add everything...

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by MEA-707
Mon May 03, 2021 11:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9
Replies: 283
Views: 58317

Re: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9

G'day Do you think economy on the 787 will be 3-3-3? Further on the way to the bottom I would not be surprised if they will configure the A350 ten abreast in economy. All recent developments at LH have not really been to enhance customer experience, but rather the opposite. I used to like them, hav...

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by MEA-707
Sun May 02, 2021 10:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 254
Views: 75174

Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Captaincurious wrote:
So only 777X and 777F is continuing production?

Yes, the last 300ERs (LN 1695) just rolled out, the last 200LR a few months ago.
In THEORY if an airline insists in getting more 777ER's Boeing can make them, but that seems very unlikely at this point.

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by MEA-707
Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 254
Views: 75174

Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

I almost missed the last two Qatari 777F's to be delivered. At April 20th A7-BFZ made her first (B1) flight with callsign BOE296 via Moses Lake towards Portland for paint, see : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE296/history/20210420/2100Z/KMWH/KPDX A taxi-out picture at Paine Field of A7-BFZ c...

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by MEA-707
Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ecuatoriana coming back
Replies: 25
Views: 8926

Re: Ecuatoriana coming back

Ironic that Ecuatoriana was best known for their colorful 707s and 720s, and now they choose a Boeing model number just in between.

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by MEA-707
Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 727
Views: 176770

Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Still no sign of the first Caribbean Airlines MAX (9Y-CAL)? :) A388 No sign of it and it may not even be in final assembly. Boeing is skipping frames like some Chinese carriers. There are also 2 Buzz Air frames that have not seen the light of day and a SWA frame as well. Even though several LN#'s a...

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by MEA-707
Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 297
Views: 120576

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Yes, 21 unbuilt MSNs. 34 built but in storage units currently. Thanks for the correction! :duck: Are you sure about this "34 built, but in storage units currently"? Could you list the MSNs for these 34 as I can't come up with near that number. Thanks! I am not him but they are probably th...

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by MEA-707
Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 297
Views: 120576

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Here goes, there are 15 official "Not Built" MSNs,....... Close, but no cigar :D Not Built MSN's: Aeroflot: 242, 253 American: 108, 131, 156, 166 Ethiopian: 377 Hong Kong A/l: 384 LATAM: 139, 152, 171, 367 Qatar: 275, 353, 361 SAS: 360 United: 194, 222 Unknown: 288, 304, 317 Some news for...

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by MEA-707
Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 297
Views: 120576

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

I feel you guys are overflowing this thread a bit with the daily A-350 movements. I guess if people are interested in the 8th testflight of this and that, they will already look at the indeed lovely aibfamilyflights/A350 website daily. I would like to see the bigger picture here, more analytical. Fo...

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by MEA-707
Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 19 seaters in Europe
Replies: 59
Views: 7452

Re: 19 seaters in Europe

In USA, Canada and some other countries like Brazil and Mexico, the 19 seaters were very important especially between 1980 and 1995. I think of the combined fleet of DHC-6 Twin Otter, Bandeirante, Do-228, SW Metro, Beech 1900, Let-410, Jetstream 31/32, about 2/3rds of the 2500 civil versions were fl...

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by MEA-707
Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 81
Views: 19195

Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

I am sure Airbus offered Delta the number they are getting so they can clear out all A321ceo specific parts they have in stock for this end of the line order. If Iran Air wants their A321s again, they would no doubt choose the NEO's if they can, perhaps the long range versions. Also will remain its ...

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by MEA-707
Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 81
Views: 19195

Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Indeed one more 319ceo to be completed and delivered to Tibet Airways: msn 10361. N119DN was delivered to Delta on 8 april instead, and N122DN today. This makes only 13 more A321s for Delta. The already known to be delivered : N109DN (9588), N116DN (10121) , N118DN (10140) , N120DN (10185), plus 9 t...

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by MEA-707
Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The WestJet Thread - 2021
Replies: 334
Views: 56397

Re: The WestJet Thread - 2021

What is the mid term plan for Encore? The Q400 production line is closing soon, probably they don't do a last minute top up order. That means they have to look at other types to expand or eventually replace their fleet, has the A220 been an option?

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by MEA-707
Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2021
Replies: 129
Views: 25222

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2021

The 8th. E190-E2 on March 12nd. The plane is the msn 19020046, prefix HB-AZH. The Swiss carrier will also add 4 brand new E195-E2s on European summer. Source: https://twitter.com/embraer?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwxIRk0UUAElImD?format=jpg&am...

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by MEA-707
Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 727
Views: 176770

Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Great Ryanair update ! It seems the deliveries are a bit stalling again. I imagined they'd deliver 30-40 each month to clear away the storage fields, but march is very slow so far. About half of the stored aircraft are due for airlines like GOL, WestJet, FlyDubai, TUI, Icelandair who have cleared th...

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by MEA-707
Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 25 years Fokker bankrupt
Replies: 33
Views: 4344

Re: 25 years Fokker bankcrupt

They had arguably the best and most advanced planes available at the time. I agree with the analysis, except for that sentence. Bear in mind the F50 was just an upgrade of the F27, the F100 of the F28; Fokker had only two Type Certificates in their portfolio. By the mid-90s, both were getting old. ...

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by MEA-707
Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 157
Views: 48434

Re: Boeing 747 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Does that then bring the total number of 748's built and delivered to 156 at line closure? I am almost sure it will be 155; LN 1420 to 1574. 1563 is the highest delivered 747. There will follow 7 for UPS and 4 for Atlas, so 11 more new ones to be delivered. That would make the last 20 shipsets from...

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by MEA-707
Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DC-8 survivors thread 2021
Replies: 35
Views: 5774

Re: DC-8 survivors thread 2021

>>>>Trans Air Cargo Service- 3<<<< Saw one of these taking off at MIA last month. I am sure you mean Skybus of Peru, that was in MIA lately. The Congolese airline Trans Air Cargo and most other Congolese freighters don't leave its region, mostly seen in Congo and South Africa.

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by MEA-707
Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2021
Replies: 65
Views: 20799

Re: Boeing 767 Production/Activity Thread - 2021

The position the 767 is in now reminds me a bit of the 777 a few years ago. The orderbook was shrinking while production remained high and then within 2 years they had to lower the rate from 8 to 2 a month. The same might happen to the 767 by 2024, that they will have to return to one a month mostly...

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by MEA-707
Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SLM new 777 and ETOPS
Replies: 98
Views: 24131

Re: SLM new 777 and ETOPS

Sounds like getting rid of the A340 was a bit of a false economy. Why do they even exist to begin with? KLM is more than enough capacity surely? Without them KLM would have a monopoly on Europe to PBM....and would nodoubt charge monopoly prices. That’s still not a reason to set up your own loss-mak...

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by MEA-707
Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Has a Problem: The Boeing 767
Replies: 136
Views: 23693

Re: Delta Has a Problem: The Boeing 767

I really don't see the problem. They have types of every size to upgrade or downgrade to. The 767-400ERs, A330-200s, -300s, -900s, A350-900s can all be used on former 767 routes depending on the demand. If these are all too big and the flight isn't too long, they can use A-321XLR's which they probab...

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by MEA-707
Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CRJ900 N840SK - The last CRJ produced
Replies: 101
Views: 17941

Re: N840SK the last crj900

Any photos of it yet? What is the total tally across all CRJ variants? . The Wikipedia figures quoted in another answer are wrong. I do production lists and the correct figures are, including the smaller CRJ100/200: 1104 CRJ 100/200/C850 347 CRJ 700 499 CRJ 900 (including the 705) 65 CRJ 1000 (incl...

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by MEA-707
Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 727
Views: 176770

Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Hi everyone, I look through this thread a few times a week and really appreciate the work that goes into it. As someone who doesn't really understand how the production and/or line numbers work, could someone help me out? Taking a random selection (screenshot below) of MAX aircraft from the planesp...

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by MEA-707
Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 737 Max - What Airlines Really Pay
Replies: 84
Views: 12506

Re: 737 Max - What Airlines Really Pay

Good to read, all makes a lot of sense. Maybe one thing; what if Southwest depreciates differently now? 25 Years seems pretty long nowadays as they are scrapping 15 year old 73Gs already. Also it makes sense to book an extra charge at the start because 2nd hand customized frames are always worth les...

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by MEA-707
Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 727
Views: 176770

Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Any info on what LNs are exiting the FAL at this time? It SEEMS that Boeing is cherry picking fuselages in the 7900-8000 region to complete for which airlines are willing to take delivery. For instance there is still no sightings for LNs 7904 to 7908 and many others after that, while Alaska (LN 796...

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by MEA-707
Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2021
Replies: 129
Views: 25222

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2021

Other question as we have someone from Embraer on board; is the production line of the Emb-190/195 (E1) closed? After #773 was delivered to Hop last september it seems there is no more activity there to be expected?

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by MEA-707
Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: French shipping group CMA CGM buys four used A330-200F freighter
Replies: 36
Views: 10454

Re: French shipping group CMA CGM buys four used A330-200F freighter

A320B737NGCapt wrote:
Well the first one has been registered with Air Belgium as OO-CMA.

So it's officially confirmed that CMA CGM and Air Belgium are cooperating and it's the same fleet and project?

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by MEA-707
Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 254
Views: 75174

Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

A country like Turkmenistan mainly makes orders like that for political and prestige reasons. Economics are not a priority. Perhaps earlier Boeing orders smoothened the US-Turkmenistan relationship. Their dictator wants to take delivery of a new aircraft, even while the type is a bit obsolete (compa...

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by MEA-707
Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 114
Views: 38980

Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

No 48 in 2 years will be a stretch, but all widebody types are struggling now. The 787 and A350 also have dodgy orders like from the Hainan group and Asiana and parked planes like the Norwegians depressing the market. I can't imagine they will give up production on the A330 now, I can see some futur...

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by MEA-707
Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 297
Views: 120576

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

DY789 wrote:
Thank you for the updates as ever!

Who is the next "new customer" to accept the A35K?

Starlux of Taiwan is the ONLY airline I can think of who has -1000s on order but doesn't have any yet. Or does anyone know more.

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by MEA-707
Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Odds of buying older generation jets like 707, DC-10/MD-11?
Replies: 56
Views: 7482

Re: Odds of buying older generation jets like 707, DC-10/MD-11?

There is a big gap between the last revenu pax flights and your question. In 2020 you had some opportunities but now probably not. 707: Travolta's is VIP configured and allocated for Australia. But they have one there already, I guess if you pay a few million for refurbishment you can have it. Iran ...

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