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by EK20
Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:31 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: Rare Aircraft/Poor Motive
Replies: 4
Views: 3307

RE: Rare Aircraft/Poor Motive

Did you get any other pics of it? That one is poorly cropped (the props are cut off) and it's very soft. Plus you got the guy easily recognisable in it too.

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by EK20
Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:49 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: BNE-SYD-HKG-LHR-TLV, QF And BA In Y (Many Pics!)
Replies: 37
Views: 33258

RE: BNE-SYD-HKG-LHR-TLV, QF And BA In Y (Many Pics!)

Thanks for the report. You can see the difference in weather between Sydney and London!!! I know what you mean about taking pics of the food. People think you are mental.  Wink

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by EK20
Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:58 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: De-Icing Shots Unwelcome?
Replies: 65
Views: 3770

RE: De-Icing Shots Unwelcome?

Airbus340, With decent gear, good post-processing skills and an eye for detail, it's not that hard to get pics on here. You have to go with the flow and follow the criteria the site lays out not the other way round. Take a chill pill.  <img src="/discussions/graphics/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smi...

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by EK20
Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:39 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Do You Suffer From Mental Illness?
Replies: 60
Views: 4954

RE: Do You Suffer From Mental Illness?

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by EK20
Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:23 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Do You Suffer From Mental Illness?
Replies: 60
Views: 4954

RE: Do You Suffer From Mental Illness?

I don't want to rain on anyone's fire but this is a public forum which can be viewed by anyone. If you are suffering from mental health problems or are taking any form of medication for it, then this is not the place to discuss it. Talk to your doctor or a family member.

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by EK20
Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:50 am
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: De-Icing Shots Unwelcome?
Replies: 65
Views: 3770

RE: De-Icing Shots Unwelcome?

Guys,

All I'm saying is that if the quality of the pic was improved then the 'motiv' might not be as much of an issue but I could be completely wrong.

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by EK20
Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:31 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: De-Icing Shots Unwelcome?
Replies: 65
Views: 3770

RE: De-Icing Shots Unwelcome?

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by EK20
Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:06 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: De-Icing Shots Unwelcome?
Replies: 65
Views: 3770

RE: De-Icing Shots Unwelcome?

Ok no offence but I have heard some real crap in this thread. I spent 15 seconds in photoshop on that original photo and it looks miles better yet there are one or two on here who seem to think it's a good excuse to attack the screeners and say standards are too high. How about, instead you concentr...

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by EK20
Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:22 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Passport Help - Urgent
Replies: 29
Views: 2633

RE: Passport Help - Urgent

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by EK20
Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:11 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Passport Help - Urgent
Replies: 29
Views: 2633

RE: Passport Help - Urgent

In the UK you can get a passport the same day but you have to pay extra. I have never heard of them wanting to know your itinery first.

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by EK20
Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:06 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: De-Icing Shots Unwelcome?
Replies: 65
Views: 3770

RE: De-Icing Shots Unwelcome?

Matt, I spent 15 seconds on that shot in photoshop, do you not think it looks better?

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by EK20
Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:09 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: De-Icing Shots Unwelcome?
Replies: 65
Views: 3770

RE: De-Icing Shots Unwelcome?

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by EK20
Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:18 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: De-Icing Shots Unwelcome?
Replies: 65
Views: 3770

RE: De-Icing Shots Unwelcome?

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by EK20
Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:23 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Do You Suffer From Mental Illness?
Replies: 60
Views: 4954

RE: Do You Suffer From Mental Illness?

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by EK20
Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:43 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Do You Suffer From Mental Illness?
Replies: 60
Views: 4954

RE: Do You Suffer From Mental Illness?

I havent watched Sesame Street in a long time but it really has changed from when I was a kid. The Count has really gotten vulgar. <object width="464" height="392"><param name="movie" value="http://embed.break.com/NDA0NTU0"></param><embed src="http://embed.break.com/NDA0NTU0" type="application/x-sho...

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by EK20
Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:34 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: Harrier Photos.
Replies: 7
Views: 1602

RE: Harrier Photos.

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by EK20
Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:22 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: QF, CX And KA To Phuket!
Replies: 10
Views: 7867

RE: QF, CX And KA To Phuket!

Nice report Jono. Where did you stay in Phuket? Patong?

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by EK20
Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:14 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: A Look At The Week Ahead.
Replies: 17
Views: 1984

RE: A Look At The Week Ahead.

Jim gets released from prison. <img src="http://images.digitalspy.co.uk/07/47/street301107_jimsteve.jpg" width="160" height="120" border=0> Carla get's a slap. <img src="http://images.digitalspy.co.uk/07/47/street261107_carlalindsey.jpg" width="160" height="120" border=0> And Maria confesses to Audr...

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by EK20
Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA Cancels Flight, Crew Claimed To Be Drunk
Replies: 52
Views: 15628

RE: BA Cancels Flight, Crew Claimed To Be Drunk

Officers received an anonymous tip-off that eight crew members had been drinking at the Arora International hotel in Princess Street at 4.15am yesterday less than six hours before the Manchester-New York flight was due to take-off. Police told British Airways about the allegation and airline officia...

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by EK20
Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:46 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: Why Rejected Photo? They Look Great To Me!
Replies: 4
Views: 3990

RE: Why Rejected Photo? They Look Great To Me!

The first one is badly cropped - you chopped off the top of the aircraft. There is also some foreground clutter. The second one is soft / blurry. <TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=95% style="border-top: 1pt #28455E solid;border-right: 1pt #1B2E3F solid;border-bottom: 1pt #1B2E3F solid;border-left: ...

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by EK20
Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:36 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Pretty Princesses - A Wote
Replies: 34
Views: 10823

RE: Pretty Princesses - A Wote

She might not be with us anymore but she wiped the floor with anyone else.

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by EK20
Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:49 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: Typhoon Afterburner- Good Enough?
Replies: 10
Views: 3242

RE: Typhoon Afterburner- Good Enough?

It's grainy but a fantastic shot.

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by EK20
Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:30 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Transairways TWM 001: 17/AUG/07: INH-MPM: Y Cabin
Replies: 11
Views: 15569

RE: Transairways TWM 001: 17/AUG/07: INH-MPM: Y Cabin

Nice report. Does that lounge have business class facilities? Big grin

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by EK20
Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:28 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Pretty Princesses - A Wote
Replies: 34
Views: 10823

RE: Pretty Princesses - A Wote

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by EK20
Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:14 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: One Last DC10: BHX-AMS-MSP-DTW-AMS-BHX On KLM & NW
Replies: 36
Views: 15494

RE: One Last DC10: BHX-AMS-MSP-DTW-AMS-BHX On KLM & NW

Great report PlymSpotter. Last DC-10 I flew on was a Monarch and it's now sitting in the viewing park at <acronym title="Manchester - International (Ringway) (MAN / EGCC), United Kingdom">MAN</acronym> <acronym title="Wilkes-Barre / Scranton - International (AVP / KAVP), USA - Pennsylvania">AVP</acr...

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by EK20
Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:37 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Should I Sell My Northern Rock Shares?
Replies: 12
Views: 2226

RE: Should I Sell My Northern Rock Shares?

Give it a few more days and you'll probably be able to buy the company.  Wink

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by EK20
Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:35 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Some Pics From Sydney Motor Show 2007
Replies: 18
Views: 2765

RE: Some Pics From Sydney Motor Show 2007

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by EK20
Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:27 am
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: Nightshot Prescreening Help
Replies: 7
Views: 2248

RE: Nightshot Prescreening Help

It's definately better smaller. Might have a problem with the slight blue cast on the aircraft but I dunno. Just have to give it a go and see what happens.  Smile

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by EK20
Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:25 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Some Pics From Sydney Motor Show 2007
Replies: 18
Views: 2765

RE: Some Pics From Sydney Motor Show 2007

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by EK20
Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FR Sells "naughty" FA Calendar On Board
Replies: 71
Views: 35666

RE: FR Sells "naughty" FA Calendar On Board

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by EK20
Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:26 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: Nightshot Prescreening Help
Replies: 7
Views: 2248

RE: Nightshot Prescreening Help

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by EK20
Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FR Sells "naughty" FA Calendar On Board
Replies: 71
Views: 35666

RE: FR Sells "naughty" FA Calendar On Board

January and April are not bad.  <img src="/discussions/graphics/smilies/wink.gif" alt="Wink"> <img src="http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/11_02/ryanair1611_468x557.jpg" width="468" height="557" border=0> <img src="http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/11_02/ryanair21611_468x558.jpg" width="...

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by EK20
Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:25 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Leeds-singapore-sydney-cairns - 33hrs I Think
Replies: 10
Views: 6003

RE: Leeds-singapore-sydney-cairns - 33hrs I Think

This is by far the best trip report I have ever read on airliners!

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by EK20
Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:01 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: Rejection - Champ Over The Beach
Replies: 14
Views: 3329

RE: Rejection - Champ Over The Beach

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by EK20
Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:46 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Some Pics From Sydney Motor Show 2007
Replies: 18
Views: 2765

RE: Some Pics From Sydney Motor Show 2007

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by EK20
Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:39 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Some Pics From Sydney Motor Show 2007
Replies: 18
Views: 2765

RE: Some Pics From Sydney Motor Show 2007

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by EK20
Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:26 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Some Pics From Sydney Motor Show 2007
Replies: 18
Views: 2765

Some Pics From Sydney Motor Show 2007

What do you think of the new Beamer? <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/2036588043/" title="Sydney Motor Show 2007 by planearm, on Flickr"><a href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2065/2036588043_67fd577f23_o.jpg" target=_blank><a href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2065/2036588043_6...

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by EK20
Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:54 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: Well Done Screeners!
Replies: 10
Views: 2703

RE: Well Done Screeners!

Yes. I was really surprised to see how quickly my pictures were rejected. Big grin

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by EK20
Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:36 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: A New Motto For Britain!
Replies: 41
Views: 3408

RE: A New Motto For Britain!

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by EK20
Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:32 am
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: Rejection - Champ Over The Beach
Replies: 14
Views: 3329

RE: Rejection - Champ Over The Beach

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by EK20
Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:03 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?
Replies: 164
Views: 9335

RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

I saw a pretty unusual car while I was in New Zealand. <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/2035382054/" title="IMG_2896 copy by planearm, on Flickr"><a href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2098/2035382054_6c387835b7_o.jpg" target=_blank><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2098/20...

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by EK20
Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:49 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Emirates: MAN-SYD
Replies: 22
Views: 9766

RE: Emirates: MAN-SYD

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by EK20
Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:27 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Clostridium Difficile
Replies: 9
Views: 1563

RE: Clostridium Difficile

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by EK20
Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:11 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Emirates: MAN-SYD
Replies: 22
Views: 9766

RE: Emirates: MAN-SYD

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by EK20
Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:36 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: Motiv Rejection
Replies: 6
Views: 2784

RE: Motiv Rejection

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by EK20
Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:40 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Inaugural AirAsia X And Routine A380 In A Weekend
Replies: 23
Views: 34764

RE: Inaugural AirAsia X And Routine A380 In A Weekend

Outstanding! And superb pictures too!

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by EK20
Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:48 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Sydney - Wellington
Replies: 19
Views: 4192

RE: Sydney - Wellington

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by EK20
Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:03 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Flying With The Venezuelan Govt. Airlines! (pics!)
Replies: 15
Views: 22285

RE: Flying With The Venezuelan Govt. Airlines! (pics!)

Interesting report and good pictures - thanks.  Smile

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by EK20
Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:55 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Sydney - Wellington
Replies: 19
Views: 4192

RE: Sydney - Wellington

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by EK20
Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:21 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Sydney - Wellington
Replies: 19
Views: 4192

RE: Sydney - Wellington

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