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by travelsonic
Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:43 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 196
Views: 40463

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

There seemed to be a lot of variations of these seats in such a small period of time. Yeah I think the 6003 was offered in: leather non-sleeper (F100 luxury jet, 727 luxury jet, MD80 luxury jet, 757 luxury jet, A300 luxury liner, 762 luxury liner) leather/sheepskin non-sleeper (DC10 luxury liner) l...

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by travelsonic
Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:32 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 196
Views: 40463

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

Look at this oldish Apple ad for the 12/17" Apple Powerbook: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvbuwfawqcc Looks like the airplane set they put together for the ad use a variation of the sheepskin 6003s (a SINGLE-seat variation of the sheepskin 6003s to boot!), AS WELL AS non-sheepskin 6003s (inc...

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by travelsonic
Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:13 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 196
Views: 40463

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

There seemed to be a lot of variations of these seats in such a small period of time.

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by travelsonic
Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:12 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 196
Views: 40463

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

EDIT: Having seen the pics of the 747SP sleeper seats, I feel like these seats used in the HOME ALONE, HOME ALONe 2 sets, and in the IFS ad scans I posted, are the same make (just ... not blue like the 747 ones). Good find on the video- but while they might be the same seat, notice they have a diff...

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by travelsonic
Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:09 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 196
Views: 40463

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

And this pic is from 1992 when they started using the 762 for transcon instead of the DC10 Well, along with the DC-10s - I remember the last time I was on a DC-10 was actually JFK-LAX in Feb. of 1999, my first trip alone with my older bro to visit my grandma. To make it easier to deplane and meet m...

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by travelsonic
Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:03 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 196
Views: 40463

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

Also, if you look at the HOME ALONe behind the scenes videos (on YouTube) they talk with Kate O'Hara in brief snippets while sitting in these 6003s with the sheepskin https://youtu.be/p7FcHntn4LI 1 minute 42 in, when she turns her head, going "hello?" the perspective shows the center armre...

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by travelsonic
Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:58 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 196
Views: 40463

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

I think the ad scans I posted date back to 1985 or 1986. the second picture shows someone holding a ticket/boarding pass jacket with this specific design on it (from the looks of it):
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by travelsonic
Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:49 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 196
Views: 40463

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

Very nice, but a few things: Weber 7502 - Double - 767 - All beige, with leather on top tuft, and sheepskin on the lower 2 tufts, and seat cushion. https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1oz8d_wrZAQiqMdpoim8-LgeI_wqwEq5K Weber 7502 - Triple - DC-10 Intl & Transcon Configurations, MD...

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by travelsonic
Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:24 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 196
Views: 40463

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

3 International Flagship Service guide/ad (not sure if the Domestic 767 pic is actually part of the IFS guide, but it seems to show the original 762 config). Note the Weber 6003s with the sheepskin tufts are VERY prominent in the first pic, and in the background of the 2nd pic. https://drive.google....

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by travelsonic
Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:18 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 196
Views: 40463

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

There used to be a site, Keystone Aviation, that sold furnishings and seats - including many AA coach, business, and first seats. The site is long gone, but the internet archive (archive.org) preserved a lot of pictures which I managed to download. Note that the names and types used are just pulled ...

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by travelsonic
Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:40 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 196
Views: 40463

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

Notice the the upper deck lounge at 0:35 and the piano bar coach lounge in the rear at 1:13. Plus of course the dining swivel seats in the A-Zone cone at 6:03, and B-Zone at 7:13. And a cool fact was that the AA 747 seats in first and coach both featured inflatable lumbar support! Also note the low...

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by travelsonic
Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:19 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 196
Views: 40463

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

Ugh, back when Geocities was a thing, there was a page on it from someone who was training to be a flight attendant for American, with TONS of great photos from inside their cabin mockups. Wish I could find it. ~_~

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by travelsonic
Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:28 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 196
Views: 40463

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

Question: When in 83 did the interior we're discussing come about? According to airfleets.net, American's oldest MD-82 was delivered 4-5-1983.

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by travelsonic
Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:48 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 196
Views: 40463

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

Also notice in that bottom row of pics on the 767 safety card what appears to be a magazine holder - which'd make sense in the original 24-seat F config, as it would seem there is no bulhead between the 1L door, and 1 A/B

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by travelsonic
Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:30 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 196
Views: 40463

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

Pardon the double post, twas accidental, but since it is here, I might as well use it. Here is an image I saw online from an April 1996 timetable (I think - guessing by the copyright info on the lefthand page) https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-57pHwtUi3Mk/VAi9wBHnv0I/AAAAAAAAQrk/wl9yK6CK8os/s1600/AA%2Bamer...

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by travelsonic
Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:30 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 196
Views: 40463

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

I found this rare picture of a 1985 AA seat guide on worth point- It's a DC10 indicated by the amount of rows of seats and the rear right coat closet which the 767 didn't have- but the 767 likely looked similar including those crazy fuzzy cloud graphics on the bulkheads! For me, the overhead bins d...

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by travelsonic
Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:20 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 196
Views: 40463

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

Anyway- to bring this thread back on topic, if anyone has any photos of the early 767 cabins for AA- I would really appreciate if you could share them! I found an image of the wide-body A300 cabin- This is most likely what the original 1983 767 cabin looked like as well. Too bad there is still no i...

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by travelsonic
Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:31 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery
Replies: 196
Views: 40463

Re: American Airlines 767 Cabins Since Delivery

A few things: 1) I think the seats from home alone/home alone 2 are actually different. Indeed, actually I found online a number of American Airlines ads that utilize these variations of the Weber seats. (I too am an old-AA-cabin-interior-nerd of sorts, did a fair amount of research on the matter t...

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by travelsonic
Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Congress working on a bill that would force FAA to mandate minimum seat size
Replies: 138
Views: 12586

Re: US Congress working on a bill that would force FAA to mandate minimum seat size

lightsaber wrote:
MRTC was a spectacular wake up that passengers want cheap!


But how much of it was because of that, and how much of it was due to the turmoil caused by 9-11, and the subsequent wars that broke out? Surely, in looking at the flop of MRTC you have to take into account all the factors?

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by travelsonic
Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: QX employee steals and crashes Q400 near SEA
Replies: 705
Views: 104994

Re: Updated: AS employee steals and crashes Q400 at SeaTac

With the serious complexity of sims nowadays, he probably could. Pilots love to think it could never happen and that sims aren’t the same, which they aren’t, but procedurally anyways, they are now the exact same. Only difference being one is real and one is not. But, I sincerely hope this does not ...

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by travelsonic
Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Should the government regulate minimum seating space
Replies: 130
Views: 6025

Re: Should the government regulate minimum seating space

I honestly think technology may have to be one of the bigger influencers on change - for example, being able to utilize graphene in such a way where we can get seats that are way, way, way thinner, yet as - if not much - stronger than what we have now.

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by travelsonic
Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Midair collision over Everglades
Replies: 11
Views: 5303

Re: Midair collision over Everglades

Link seems to not work, giving a 404 - Page Not Found error.

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by travelsonic
Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA: Seat size not their concern
Replies: 124
Views: 14358

Re: FAA: Seat size not their concern

While majority of passengers want cheaper fares, seats will keep evolving, it's really a simple as that. . Exactly. IMO, it is hard to visualize it now, but I see the eventual ability to utilize graphene as one of the biggest advancements that could be made in terms of ultra slimming. Imagine, if g...

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by travelsonic
Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA: Seat size not their concern
Replies: 124
Views: 14358

Re: FAA: Seat size not their concern

And really seat back thickness doesn't have much to do with seat pitch. When you are sitting down, the distance between your tailbone and your knee caps does. I'm not too sure that seat thinkness can be completely excluded from the equation... even if more of it ends up being psychological. I mean,...

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by travelsonic
Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA: Seat size not their concern
Replies: 124
Views: 14358

Re: FAA: Seat size not their concern

To shift the discussion slightly, I have to wonder if technology and science would allow us to find a new means of reducing thickness of the seatback without sacrificing comfort OR safety. My thought process being that if we can eventually reduce the seatback as far as physically possible without sa...

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by travelsonic
Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA: Seat size not their concern
Replies: 124
Views: 14358

Re: FAA: Seat size not their concern

The consumer is all powerful, but not organised, and prefers price over everything else. Eh, irrespective, not all the options on how to approach that choice are in the hands of the consumers - it's up to the airlines with regards to how to respond to it. (Irrespective of if I think seat pitch is b...

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by travelsonic
Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JFK EWR Versus HPN ISP SWF for TATL low cost Flights
Replies: 39
Views: 3637

Re: JFK EWR Versus HPN ISP SWF for TATL low cost Flights

It's also annoying that all of the food options (quick mart, Dunkin Donuts, and the bar & diner) are all pre-security while the only option post security is a little quick mart. How long did it take before they finally added any kind of concessions beyond security? I remember for the longest of...

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by travelsonic
Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JFK EWR Versus HPN ISP SWF for TATL low cost Flights
Replies: 39
Views: 3637

Re: JFK EWR Versus HPN ISP SWF for TATL low cost Flights

The politics surrounding HPN are absolutely disgusting... mainly that surrounding the construction of, and expansion/lack thereof of the terminal. Doubt intl flights would ever be able to happen. Hell, with the terminal, due to the politics surrounding it, it took a lot before any expansion of space...

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by travelsonic
Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta ejects passengers over airplane mode spat
Replies: 177
Views: 17597

Re: Delta ejects passengers over airplane mode spat

Remember, the crew member said "I heard what you said" in the video, which makes me think the pax is leaving something out of her version of the story. In of itself, I am not too sure, I mean, it seems to me like that could be any number of things, including reacting to a snarky remark.

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by travelsonic
Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta ejects passengers over airplane mode spat
Replies: 177
Views: 17597

Re: Delta ejects passengers over airplane mode spat

Hence, the rule. And yes, Super80fan, et al. It is FEDERAL LAW, your phone should be in Airplane mode or off as of the moment the aircraft door is closed. Not, the fourth time we ask, not the moment we tap you on the shoulder as you text, and not as you keep talking. Any indication that it was mult...

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by travelsonic
Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta ejects passengers over airplane mode spat
Replies: 177
Views: 17597

Re: Delta ejects passengers over airplane mode spat

I dunno, I mean, while I'm all for being respectful to people, I don't understand how anyone can believe that a little snarkiness is enough to warrant being thrown off - I mean, being snarky isn't interfering, and you jolly well can be snarky while complying - and it is clear from the other passenge...

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by travelsonic
Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Video of Hawaiian Employee Chucking Bags Posted on Twitter
Replies: 108
Views: 12485

Re: Video of Hawaiian Employee Chucking Bags Posted on Twitter

This video is an invasion of privacy for the ground worker. That’s a joke right? She’s standing out in the open. People looking out a window have every right to watch and record. She should try sucking less at her job. Kind of a slippery slope, but a good lawyer might be able to make a case that th...

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by travelsonic
Tue May 15, 2018 1:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue Vacations A320
Replies: 8
Views: 1516

Re: JetBlue Vacations A320

evank516 wrote:
Ooo, this is a pretty plane!


And, IMO, just a bit less of a plain plane than others who go with the white fuselages. :)

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by travelsonic
Mon May 14, 2018 8:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA kicks off 1st class pax for serving drinks to economy pax
Replies: 30
Views: 8076

Re: AA kicks off 1st class pax for serving drinks to economy pax

Normally articles are written in a poor pax/evil airline type manner. But not this one. It portrays the pax as a complete jerk. How refreshing ! :yes: Eh, I think it's just as sucky to take one extreme over the other. Is it so hard for them to go "this happened, supposedly, one side says X hap...

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by travelsonic
Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways tilts against reclining seats
Replies: 157
Views: 25998

Re: British Airways tilts against reclining seats

I wonder if technology has hit the limit with regards to how thin seats can go without becoming physically uncomfortable, as I feel like seatback thinning might become a necessity as technology improves for allowing airlines to increase capacity while allowing some form of legroom comfort for passen...

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by travelsonic
Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cabin photos from SQ 787-10
Replies: 13
Views: 4296

Re: Cabin photos from SQ 787-10

Slightly O/T, but am I the only one who, seeing the window shape/proportions for the 787, is slightly reminded of the window proportions/shape of the Douglas DC-10, or Lockheed Tri-Star? The cabin design/colors, for some reason, made that REALLY pop out for me.

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by travelsonic
Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Time to Change "Compliance with All Crewmember Instructions"?
Replies: 103
Views: 9161

Re: Time to Change "Compliance with All Crewmember Instructions"?

Boats, trains, planes are not democracies. Nobody is saying that, just that in their mind literal interpretation of following FA instructions has become a bit problematic in certain applications. Believe it or not, just because you as the captain have absolute rule doesn't mean common sense doesn't...

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by travelsonic
Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dog Dies in Overhead Bin on United Airlines Flight
Replies: 491
Views: 35045

Re: Dog Dies in Overhead Bin on United Airlines Flight

Not saying that love and compassion for an animal is a mental disorder. Believing or thinking that a dog is a "family member" is. I use to think the same before my Mrs twisted my arm and we got our dog. Dogs do actually become a part of your family dynamic and every day life, the daily ro...

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by travelsonic
Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN removes toddler from MDW-ATL flight
Replies: 47
Views: 7314

Re: WN removes toddler from MDW-ATL flight

And you know what else I think? They need to damn well stop with these videos. Anybody who does these recordings should in fact be banned from flying with the carrier, if the carrier has a rule that recordings are not to be taken! In a way, aren't you advocating the opposite extreme of the same &qu...

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by travelsonic
Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Time to Change "Compliance with All Crewmember Instructions"?
Replies: 103
Views: 9161

Re: Time to Change "Compliance with All Crewmember Instructions"?

I think the problem is not so much the concept of complying with all crewmember instructions bit in of itself, but the way it is emphasized - where people are literally thinking it has to do with every single instruction and order (versus those having to do with passenger/crew/aircraft safety), and ...

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by travelsonic
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:38 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Flight Simulator addon developer FSLabs caught inserting malware to steal Chrome passwords
Replies: 1
Views: 1022

Re: Flight Simulator addon developer FSLabs caught inserting malware to steal Chrome passwords

The part that scares me about the FSLabs forums' response on the issue is the number of people who think this is perfectly legal, and moral as actions go, or otherwise not a problem... they, from my understanding, did not disclose the software ( even omitting its presence from testers ), reportedly ...

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by travelsonic
Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's the story with this Alex Macheras 'aviation analyst' kid?
Replies: 63
Views: 19710

Re: What's the story with this Alex Macheras 'aviation analyst' kid?

Gee, what in this world is wrong with you? The outburst of envy you just released on this post alone is quite impressive.. Passionate criticism isn't envy in of itself. :roll: There are a lot of valid criticisms raised, dismissing it all as envy or jealousy only makes one look like they are unable ...

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by travelsonic
Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue taking over Marine Air Terminal in LGA
Replies: 85
Views: 19407

Re: JetBlue taking over Marine Air Terminal in LGA

Even overheard a couple in the A concourse PAST the security check come up to the Air Canada counter looking for their flight to Orlando. That was a doozy. It's a bit troubling TSA didn't notice that when they scanned the boarding pass... It has been almost 3 years since I last went out of LGA, but...

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by travelsonic
Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ryanair cabin crew told to sell more scratchcards or face disciplinary action
Replies: 100
Views: 28458

Re: Ryanair cabin crew told to sell more scratchcards or face disciplinary action

I am reminded of a train journey scam I ran for some years. Travelling between two open (unmanned) stations, I soon realised that the ticket inspector only visited each carriage periodically, and you could easily make ten journeys without being challenged to produce a valid ticket. Happens a bit in...

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by travelsonic
Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TSA Failed To Detect Weapons, Bombs During Most Screening Tests
Replies: 69
Views: 14018

Re: TSA Failed To Detect Weapons, Bombs During Most Screening Tests

It seems to me that one thing is forgotten. The security tests are probably carried out by very experienced TSA personnel, who know exactly how the screening agents are trained, and the capabilities of the detection equipment. I can't help but wonder "so what?" - I mean, they know all of ...

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by travelsonic
Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TSA Failed To Detect Weapons, Bombs During Most Screening Tests
Replies: 69
Views: 14018

Re: TSA Failed To Detect Weapons, Bombs During Most Screening Tests

A crazy person is probably not going to be educated on how all the software and protocols work ahead of time the way these "test" people were. Silly question, probably missing something, but ... what relevance does this bear on the effectiveness or lack thereof of the TSA agents themselve...

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by travelsonic
Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA's new branding
Replies: 116
Views: 20948

Re: AA's new branding

For me, the thing I dislike about the new livery, branding is just how big a leap away it was from the old. If you look at the branding chronologically, you'll see that there WAS a constant - an eagle betwixt two As - for the logo. The font of the logo, the style of the eagle, the type used on the &...

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by travelsonic
Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA's new branding
Replies: 116
Views: 20948

Re: AA's new branding

Whoever heard of making an airline choice over what the podium looks like. Seen this strawman come up over and over in my time lurking - and I gotta say: it is quite intellectually dishonest - nobody (far as I see, at least) is implying this is happening, and you don't need to imply that to have a ...

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by travelsonic
Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA agrees to Santa Monica airport closure
Replies: 66
Views: 17887

Re: FAA agrees to Santa Monica airport closure

So... stupid question: Are there any remnants at the airport left from the days when the Douglas corporation used it, and if so, would they be preserved whatever happens to the rest of the airfield?

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