Boeing CEO to Business Travel Execs: Trust Us, 737 Max Is Safe Now https://skift.com/2019/08/05/boeing-ceo-to-business-travel-execs-trust-us-737-max-is-safe-now/ “This is a challenging situation and the respect and confidence of the flying public is extremely important to us,” said Muilenburg. “We k...Jump to post
I have been wondering about this myself.. “346 People Have Died on Boeing’s Newest Jet. Why the Hell Does the CEO Still Have a Job?” https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-the-hell-does-boeing-ceo-dennis-muilenburg-still-have-a-job-after-737-max-scandal A change in leadership is overdue at Boeing https:/...Jump to post
Just to add to the fun..
https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2019/0 ... g-is-broke
Will re-visit when the Q1 2020 thread starts
Seems unlikely that Boeing will go bust, the recent leaks are a bit more optimistic But the billions the 737MAX fiasco is going to cost must be eating up the profits for the 737 program. If it is not returned to flight pretty soon they must eventually run out of funds or be vulnerable to take overs,...Jump to post
China Southern suspends Boeing 737 Max order China Southern Airlines has suspended its order for as many as 64 Boeing 737 Max 8 aircraft. https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/news/china-southern-suspends-boeing-737-max-order-18876 Now retracting the story .. saying he was ‘mis-quoted’ https://paxex.aero/2...Jump to post
China Southern suspends Boeing 737 Max order
China Southern Airlines has suspended its order for as many as 64 Boeing 737 Max 8 aircraft.
https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/news/chin ... rder-18876
As the self-certified product realistically cannot be patched to make it certifiable under the whole world scrutiny, it means everything is lost. The whole program. [/quote The various regulators will be going over most (all?) of the changes with a fine tooth comb now, so while it will cost BCA in ...Jump to post
The FAA seems to be leaking out more information lately. https://www.wsj.com/articles/regulators-found-high-risk-of-emergency-after-first-boeing-max-crash-11564565521 I don't think anyone on this forum is salivating for bad news to bash Boeing. Thousands of jobs depend on the 737, but the evidence i...Jump to post
Worth a read.
I forgot Nikki Haley is on the Boeing board, maybe she will get Trump to put pressure on the FAA?
https://www.palisadeshudson.com/2019/07 ... llion-man/
On PBS an interview with the NY Times journalist.. “In this case, there was a dispute over these cables, which FAA engineers, most of them who are working on this issue wanted the company to make these cables safer. Boeing pushed back. And the FAA managers sided with Boeing over the engineers in the...Jump to post
As the engines on the 737MAX are mounted so far forward more of the fuselage is at risk from flying debris including the rudder cables. With the 737NG less of the fuselage is at risk as the engines are tucked more underneath wing, so the wing would take more of the debris. Wether this is a showstopp...Jump to post
More on the potential rudder cables issue.. worth a read
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/07/7 ... ified.html
MOL “Boeing needs to get its s**t together”
Ryanair losing patience with the 737MAX fiasco.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ary-brexit
So root cause analysts Question 1 - would 346 people still be alive today if the Ethiopian and Lion Air pilots had been flying a 737NG or an A320? The BBC 1 program tonight is on at prime time, looks like the Boeing name, with all its proud traditions, is going to be trashed. Now MOL of Ryanair has ...Jump to post
While we’re here can we end this obsession with Crossrail killing LCY. It’s not going to happen. Not so sure about your statement. It takes 15min on public transport to get from Canary Wharf to LCY. You can’t beat that even with Crossrail. —- Its not just the traveling time to the airport. I arrive...Jump to post
More info on TUI ferry flight of MAX8 PH-TFO: https://simpleflying.com/tui-737-max-relocation/ https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ph-tfo/#217466c7 At the risk of reading too much into this... how come only Germany has banned 737MAX overflights? Are we seeing the supposed 'lockstep' of regu...Jump to post
XRAYretIred is right. I thought we had moved on from trying to blame the dead pilots months ago. Even Sully has doubts he could have saved the plane. MCAS was unheard of until the Lion Air crash. If they had been flying NG's they would still be alive. I am more interested in why the FAA is so intere...Jump to post
The main challenge for the A220 is ramping up production. . .so its still a long long wait for deliveries.. I wouldn’t write off an order from Southwest, there were rumours they were looking at it, and they are not happy with Boeing at the moment. Also Ryanair now owns Laudamotion that is all Airbus...Jump to post
This is the first time I have seen the issue of protection for the rudder cables raised (yes, it's 2019 and Boeing are still using cables like in a Cessna 150) In turboprops the fuselage normally has extra protection around the propeller arc. Maybe that's what they are suggesting? There was that Sou...Jump to post
Just when I thought there may be light at the end of the tunnel.. an issue with the rudder cables. https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/roots-of-boeings-737-max-crisis-relaxed-faa-oversight/ “Early on, engineers at the FAA discovered a problem with one of the most important new features of the ...Jump to post
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-27/latest-737-max-fault-that-alarmed-test-pilots-rooted-in-software Just possible that a bit of good news has leaked out from two 'sources'. Maybe they can get it ungrounded without any hardware changes? If I was a lessor my finger would be near the ca...Jump to post
https://theaircurrent.com/scoops/october-brings-prospect-of-737-max-cancellations/ “When the clock strikes midnight on October 1, 2019, a host of new problems land on Boeing’s doorstep. On that date, key contractual provisions, including the right to cancel a delayed airplane delivery, come into eff...Jump to post
I think Boeing needs to start thinking (behind closed doors) about a plan B. https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1415977&p=21536649#p21536455 I hope someone is putting options on the table for the Boeing CEO.. even if they are pretty drastic.. # Accelerate a 737 replacement....Jump to post
I am thinking the entire Boeing management needs a clear out.. do Engineers make good Managers ? It will come down to economics.. Boeing has deep pockets, but is still borrowing money. The shareholders must be getting nervous. Is it economically viable to fix the 737MAX? Will the fix add weight? Red...Jump to post
Boeing seems to be sending veiled threats that if the FAA don't lift the grounding by Q4 2019 they will shut down Renton. Desperate times for Boeing. I suspect this will not just blow over and be forgotten. There are no guarantees that it will be economically viable to fix the 737MAX. Somebody at Bo...Jump to post
#Boeing reports biggest ever quarterly loss of almost $3bn as #boeing737max crisis bites hard and deep with little sign of when the plane will be back in the air.
https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2019-07-24 ... er-Results
With the Comet the early Comet 1’s were scrapped. The Comet that went on to have a reasonable commercial service life was a different bird altogether. But that was another era when social media didn’t exist only rich people could afford to fly. The 737MAX grounding is unprecedented in its length and...Jump to post
When I think about it, Boeing must have been aware of high by-pass engines coming when they started designing the original 737 so why did they not design it with increased ground clearance to take account of coming engine developments? The original 737-100 was deliberately designed with low ground ...Jump to post
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremyboga ... ion-again/
Hmm.. all speculation about a further cut in production.
Also says they are still producing some NG’s. Thought that had finished.
If I were Boeing I’d ask Airbus to jump in and help solve the problem. The’ve got experience with FBW and software based flying models. And If I were Airbus I’d jump in immediately. It’s in interest of both for so many reasons. They should work closely and secretly and make the 737Max fly again asa...Jump to post
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/united-to-pick-up-batch-of-used-737-700s-459708/ United Airlines has agreed to purchase a batch of used Boeing 737-700s, and intends to start taking delivery of the jets before the end of this year. They are not saying where they are getting them from or if...Jump to post
You have got to have some grudging respect for MOL and Ryanair. When the 737MAX was announced he allegedly said it was a 'back of a fag packet response to the A320NEO' (for US readers .. fags are cigarettes) - maybe he was right. He also has plenty of Airbus on order for Laudamotion. With no sign of...Jump to post
So now Ryanair are warning of routes being cut and base closures due to the 737MAX (or 737-8200). No doubt they will want even more compensation from Boeing. The bad PR for Boeing seems unending.. plus the way information leaks out does not do them any favours. https://www.flightglobal.com/news/arti...Jump to post
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/15/boeing- ... gs-on.html
Maybe news of what happened here will leak out.. I expect the lessors are losing patience.
and Ryanair drops the Max name..
https://thepointsguy.com/news/ryanair-d ... -max-200s/
https://www.marketscreener.com/BOEING-COMPANY-THE-4816/news/Boeing-737-MAX-Grounding-Could-Stretch-Into-2020-28902581/ Hmmm... hinting that the manual trim wheel may need to be modified.. but thats just my guess. You cant really expect the FAA to give a minute by minute summary I suppose. The trim w...Jump to post
Another gem from the Forbes article.. 'The U.S. has gradually ceased manufacturing televisions, telephones and a host of other products invented here..' Some interesting info in the article, but comes across as a desperate PR puff for Boeing .. and encouraging corners to be cut in getting the 737MAX...Jump to post
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lorenthomp ... max-story/
A reminder, if you needed it, about how vital Boeing is to the US economy.
The pressure on Boeing and the FAA to rush the 737MAX back into the air must be immense.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ryan ... SKCN1U52ME
So Ryanair are getting restless..
So their Plan B is to order 100 Airbus for its Laudamotion subsidary.
The BILLION dollar question - When will the 737MAX be flying again? So.. do we know the extent of the issues that need fixing? Errr well kinda Do we know what the fix is? Software or Software and Hardware? More training? A new bigger trim wheel, new flight computer .. errr… we are working on it So w...Jump to post
I don't get this story about BA's A318 operation at LCY. Can somebody please write a clear summary for us? What's the situation today? Without irritating colors please. ——- So BA brought x 2 Airbus A318s that were modified for the steep approach into the short runway at London City. City Airport is...Jump to post
Are they still flying LCY-JFK with their A318? Yes but the frequency is half what it was to begin with. Operates 6 times a week now, once it was 12 flights a week. This year, as in previous years, it is suspended for almost all of August. The solitary A318 in the fleet gets planned maintenance and ...Jump to post
I don't think BA will be in a hurry to choose between the Embraer and the A220 And I don't see why Crossrail will make any difference to LCY. LCY is all set up for the bankers and business crowd from the City and Canary Wharf, there are Stock prices displayed in the lounge and internet everywhere, I...Jump to post
Well JetBlue have announced the intention to fly transatlantic.. so anything is possible. Ryanair seem to be in an expansive mood at the moment announcing new subsidiaries in Poland and Malta plus acquiring Laudamotion. They tried to buy Aer Lingus on a number of occasions. There seems to be a big m...Jump to post
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/07/business/boeing-737-max-flyadeal-airbus/index.html CNN reporting on more problems with the AoA vane and the micro-processors used. Both videos are worth watching. The chances of the 737MAX flying again by September are remote. Not surprising that airlines are cancellin...Jump to post
In the past Manston seemed to survive on a mix of flight training schools, cargo and charter flights and being a British version of Victorville.. lots of exotic types being stripped of parts or being maintained. It was also the RAF fire training school I recall. I remember seeing Virgin 747’s doing ...Jump to post
So where do we go from here? What are the next steps to get the 737MAX ungrounded? Best case – flying again in 3-4 months? • The FAA plus all the worldwide aviation authorities give the 737MAX the green light, dependant on MCAS 2.1 being approved and other simple software / hardware fixes. • The pil...Jump to post
There is a logic to the out of sequence registrations that British Airways choose..
https://travelupdate.boardingarea.com/r ... anings-ba/
British Airways has also started buying second hand planes too. The A320’s based at Gatwick G-GATH to G-GATU are all second hand and some are coming up to 20 years old.. however having flown on a couple of them the cabins look brand new. So age does not necessarily mean that the plane is shabby insi...Jump to post
Airbus A200 order book - looks like it needs updating.. I see that Airbus still has the ODYSSEY AIRLINES LTD order for 10 A220-200’s on its books. https://www.airbus.com/content/dam/corporate-topics/publications/o&d/ODs-Airbus-Commercial-Aircraft-April-2019.xlsx This start up was supposed to be ...Jump to post