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by CALTECH
Mon May 06, 2019 4:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

KVH68 wrote:
It looks like the entire belly is painted now


They were painting the bellies with that teflon paint to stop the belly rash on some of the planes, think the 757s were getting it.

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by CALTECH
Sun May 05, 2019 8:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Slightly more extensive list......audits were done since the beginning of this year..... AC # - Fleet Type - Total Score - AC Paint Date 6671 - 767-300 - 19 - 0297 - 737-800 - 18 - 6/5/2011 0248 - 737-800 - 18 - 4623 - A320 - 18 - 1/6/2012 4712 - A320 - 18 - 2/8/2012 4048 - A319 - 18 - 4249 - A320 -...

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by CALTECH
Sun May 05, 2019 2:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Thanks CALTECH. There are no aircraft in paint at this time. Note that the following on your list have been recently painted: 2511 / 777-200 / 15 in Feb 19 0507 / 737-800 / 16 in Mar 19 0277 / 737-800 / 15 in Feb 19 I track paint on the Fleet site and do not have year of paint for all but the below...

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by CALTECH
Sun May 05, 2019 1:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Runway 17R/35L Closed at MCO
Replies: 4
Views: 1678

Re: Runway 17R/35L Closed at MCO

ATTENTION RESIDENTS NEAR ORLANDO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT: On or about March 11, runway 17R/35L will close for a period of approximately 150 days to conduct necessary pavement rehabilitation. Some residents may experience changes in noise as the majority of MCO departures will use runway 18L/36R during...

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by CALTECH
Sun May 05, 2019 12:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Denver hub 1990s?
Replies: 89
Views: 13633

Re: United Denver hub 1990s?

It eventually just didn’t make sense for CO to play second fiddle in a city the size of Denver. UA put up a tough fight to say the least, and CO was also interested in building up its highly profitable and winning CALite strategy back east. CALite was neither profitable nor a winning strategy. http...

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by CALTECH
Sat May 04, 2019 7:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Here are some aircraft with the worst paint jobs, the higher the total score, the older and in need of a paint job is needed. The fleet is regularly audited..... AC # / Fleet Type / Total Score 6671 / 767-300 / 19 0248 / 737-800 / 18 4048 / A319 / 18 6675 / 767-300 / 17 0507 / 737-800 / 16 2510 / 77...

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by CALTECH
Sat May 04, 2019 12:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Picking up another 737-700 from COPA/ILFC, 0755. 4870 A319-132 870 2739 N870UB 2006 870 17 -Bulgarian Eagle/LZ-AOC NOSE NUMBER TO AIRCRAFT TYPE REFERENCE NOTE: To keep this list short, a range may contain nose numbers of aircraft we do not operate. NOSE # TYPE FLEET CODE 0001-0022 777-224ER 25 0051-...

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by CALTECH
Sat May 04, 2019 10:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Question about maintenance bases, why does UA still do maintenance at HOU and airport they don’t serve. Either add a flight or two to Denver to rotate aircraft through there in revenue service or build replacement facilities at IAH or MCO. Couldn't beat the price for the facilities. HOU could fabri...

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by CALTECH
Thu May 02, 2019 9:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

If UA can move their B737MAX fleet around without pax onboard then can they not repaint those as they are sat idle. Whilst they certainly are not in need of a repaint, wouldn't it be wise to repaint them now rather then take them out of service in future years? Why would you want to ruin a perfectl...

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by CALTECH
Thu May 02, 2019 9:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

cosyr wrote:
I never understand this. Every plane in their fleet will need either a C or a D check in less time than 7 years. Just do them when they're out of service anyway!


The MX bases do not do paint and the paint bases do not do MX.

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by CALTECH
Thu May 02, 2019 3:48 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Researchers invent new, permanent, anti-ice coating
Replies: 24
Views: 4292

Re: Researchers invent new, permanent, anti-ice coating

University researchers in Canada have developed a new anti-ice coating. It looks like a permanent coating which prevents ice from adhering to surfaces. Something like this has the potential to save a lot of money in the aviation industry. I wonder if it will become a reality, in the end, for aviati...

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by CALTECH
Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:26 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Researchers invent new, permanent, anti-ice coating
Replies: 24
Views: 4292

Re: Researchers invent new, permanent, anti-ice coating

So Fiji Airways could decide not to order it since they'd never need it? Reminds me of the times in summer when the anti-ice valves need to be locked in the on position, and folks ask why when it's 95 degrees on the ground...... Forgive me for possibly sounding naive but I thought significant level...

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by CALTECH
Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:15 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Curiosity about pre delivery vertical stabilizer
Replies: 16
Views: 3070

Re: Curiosity about pre delivery vertical stabilizer

I’ve noticed, especially with Boeing aircraft prior to being fully painted they have a few stripes of the upcoming livery on the tail itself. What is the reason for such ? Branding ? Simple answer, it is much easier to paint the 'leading edge' of the rudder/flight control surfaces off the airplane,...

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by CALTECH
Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:38 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Researchers invent new, permanent, anti-ice coating
Replies: 24
Views: 4292

Re: Researchers invent new, permanent, anti-ice coating

So Fiji Airways could decide not to order it since they'd never need it? Reminds me of the times in summer when the anti-ice valves need to be locked in the on position, and folks ask why when it's 95 degrees on the ground...... Approx temp at altitudes... https://scienceofdoom.files.wordpress.com/...

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by CALTECH
Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Aircraft are painted every 6-8 years, so looking at that time frame for the whole fleet to get the new livery. Haven't seen a Fleet Campaign to repaint the fleet, but that could change. But this evolution livery looks like it needs a complete paint job, not a patch. No major painting is done in hous...

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by CALTECH
Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

913 is in AMA for some upper wing skin warranty paint. Dont think it's another ruse.......

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by CALTECH
Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Planespotters report that UA is also getting 4 ex Vueling A320's. https://www.planespotters.net/production-list/search?fleet=United-Airlines&manufacturer=Airbus&type=A320&fleetStatus=future Old news. Much of the aircraft being acquired by United was listed months ago earlier in this thr...

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by CALTECH
Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Leaked photo.....

Lighting, or the blue gets lighter towards the top of the vertical......

Image

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by CALTECH
Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

The company is really keeping this paint job under wraps. From a update, it was said that the fuselage belly was being painted grey and that a step was ' paint Gold stripe and Gold on Globe '. Could be some good misdirection. The name 'UNITED' looks bigger on the fuselage, the engines looked as thou...

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by CALTECH
Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:59 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: The Smell Of Jet Exhaust
Replies: 32
Views: 2396

Re: The Smell Of Jet Exhaust

Mere babes in arms. For the full-on effect, get behind a 737-200 or BAC 1-11. Soot is mandatory to get the smell just right. Reminds me of this all time classic photo: http://www.nycaviation.com/newspage/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/convair880.jpg Only 4 ? MITO takeoffs dwarfed that..... https://iche...

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by CALTECH
Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:52 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: The Smell Of Jet Exhaust
Replies: 32
Views: 2396

Re: The Smell Of Jet Exhaust

DALMD80 wrote:
I LOVE the smell of jet exhaust and wondered who agrees? Smells best burned by an MD-80!


Best ever was J-57s burning JP-4, 8 of 'em. That's 4 times the amount of a MD-80. Smell lingered for days.

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by CALTECH
Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:49 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Are these contrails alarming?
Replies: 40
Views: 5729

Re: Are these contrails alarming?

I have a degree in Chemistry. DHMO is responsible for thousands of deaths each year. You have to wear protective equipment if you are going to be exposed to it in sufficient quantities. In some climates, there is a lot of it in the air and it affects people's health. And those contrails - they cont...

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by CALTECH
Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:47 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Are these contrails alarming?
Replies: 40
Views: 5729

Re: Are these contrails alarming?

DocLightning wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
This is what we hide inside the airplanes, our Type IV-I Chemical Mixer. ]


You misspelled "kemikill."


'Kemikill' is trademarked and top secret, now you've done it......

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by CALTECH
Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released
Replies: 1797
Views: 387022

Re: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery coming in April

Painting of N37267 (737-800) at Amarillo is complete. The next thing they need to do is a test flight because they removed both tabs on the aileron and both tabs on the elevators. If the test flight is performed in the cover of darkness, then we can assume this aircraft is wearing the new livery. T...

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by CALTECH
Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released
Replies: 1797
Views: 387022

Re: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery coming in April

lollomz wrote:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnYHxZtkd0o3TjjKvyBOoxUZTMYGOTt75P-zto8ZBQjrIdWOBsMw

This is a first clue....


No clue, not even close.

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by CALTECH
Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

In a update on the painting, the Gold Stripe and the Gold paint on the Globe on the tail was being applied last week. Clear coat now to make her shiny. It was also stated that a logo was applied on the fuselage (before or after the UNITED fuselage title ?). subCAL is history subUAL is history Meatba...

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by CALTECH
Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

I'm still curious as to how DEN is UA's most profitable hub after almost shunning it after the merger with CO. The competition is tough out there with WN and Frontier as well. I lived in DEN for about 2 years and returned back to LAX as I was there for work. UA needs to be careful with DEN expansio...

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by CALTECH
Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Hearing the same, A-350 will replace the older 777-200s.

From sources, the Gold Stripe and the Gold On The Globe is staying. Smaller logo on the fuselage.

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by CALTECH
Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

It is # 267, for the Evolution

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by CALTECH
Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:48 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Are these contrails alarming?
Replies: 40
Views: 5729

Re: Are these contrails alarming?

+CALTECH & others: It didn't sound like an April 1st joke to my ear either. I don't know the guy (or the neighbor who posted this) personally, but given the context of his other videos, I really believe that this fellow is afflicted by this existential dread of contrails at all times during the...

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by CALTECH
Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:38 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why do MD-80s lock their horizontal stabilizer in an upright position at the gate?
Replies: 24
Views: 4469

Re: Why do MD-80s lock their horizontal stabilizer in an upright position at the gate?

I have seen this with every MD-80(/90/95) I have seen at DFW/ATL and I was wondering why exactly they did this. Other aircraft move their vertical stabilizers at the gate too. Anyone care to tell me why? I'm curious. (also slightly unrelated but why did MD-80s have a different tailcone 15 years ago...

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by CALTECH
Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:52 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Distinct noise inside 737 cabins
Replies: 30
Views: 6696

Re: Distinct noise inside 737 cabins

I've noticed that 737s have a very distinct humming sound in the cabin. It usually persists before throughout the flight, though it can be heard well only during taxi and when the a/c is idle. I'm not sure if its there in the cabins of original and classic 737's, but I've experienced it on NG's. An...

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by CALTECH
Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Which of the US3 has the best hubs?
Replies: 30
Views: 3096

Re: Which of the US3 has the best hubs?

If United added more domestic aircraft and flights, built up some of their hubs to the strength of a Atlanta, definitely United. Except for the southeast region, Delta and American reign there, but anything could happen in the future. Spirit could set up their hub in MCO and United could buy or merg...

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by CALTECH
Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When did United Fully Phase Out Rising Blue?
Replies: 25
Views: 4756

Re: When did United Fully Phase Out Rising Blue?

Veigar wrote:
I believe it went around 2009-2010..


Later than that.
IIRC, summer of 2011 when the contract MX was kicked out in MCO and CALMX took over the subUAL thruflights, there were Rising Blues still flying. One had a nasty paint removal over the right side around the overwing exits.

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by CALTECH
Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

I've been thinking the same about the new livery - a single star placed high on the vertical fin to represent Polaris above the revised globe. We'll know soon enough. Yup, # 267 "As Oscar mentioned last month, our next livery is coming soon and we’ll reveal it April 24." A more modern liv...

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by CALTECH
Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released
Replies: 1797
Views: 387022

Re: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery coming in April

The tulip and the meatball are dead. Maybe a retro someday, but they're done.

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by CALTECH
Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

The only downside to this Star Wars livery is that is so good United just raised expectations on what our new evolution livery will look like. Now United Airlines really has to bring it and knock it out of the park. Whoever designed the Star Wars livery hopefully is involved in UA's evolution liver...

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by CALTECH
Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:39 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Are these contrails alarming?
Replies: 40
Views: 5729

Re: Are these contrails alarming?

This was no April Fool's joke. The individual who posted that Chemtrail video has many more not videoed on April 1st that he has posted.
He is a believer.

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by CALTECH
Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta announces reduction in recline on A320 fleet
Replies: 176
Views: 22628

Re: Delta announces reduction in recline on A320 fleet

Stop all the madness with... fixed recline ! The recline of economy seats is minimal; however, “the full, upright position” can be uncomfortable. Just give all the seats a slight, fixed recline and be done with it. That would be the way to do it if not for FARs. Or like some of the new seats coming...

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by CALTECH
Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Supposedly UA will announce a "brand" update on the 24th and just to add some fuel to the fire there is a 737-800 due out of paint on the 23rd. As reported on the other thread it went in on the 8th of this month...two weeks is a long time for a 738 to be in paint but maybe not if it's the...

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by CALTECH
Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Acft 267
Full strip and repaint.
Flight control tabs removed for paint job.
Masked wings to paint fuselage white areas.
Lay out the 'Strip'
Lay out the lower fuselage to paint gray

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by CALTECH
Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released
Replies: 1797
Views: 387022

Re: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery coming in April

It is kind of interesting that 737-800, N37267, is being painted by Leading Edge Aviation Services in Amarillo. At the same time, 787-10, N91007, is being painted by Leading Edge Aviation Services as well at Meacham airport in Fort Worth. Full strip and paint, including wings. More than likely the ...

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by CALTECH
Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:38 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: White painted Wings, are they allowed on airliners in the US?
Replies: 22
Views: 3565

Re: White painted Wings, are they allowed on airliners in the US?

Hello All: LH, along with a few other airlines have painted their wings white. I noticed none of the US airlines haven’t. Is it allowed in the US to completely paint the wings white? Also what colors are typically allowed to be painted on commercial aircraft wings? Huh ? https://www.youtube.com/wat...

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by CALTECH
Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:22 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Are these contrails alarming?
Replies: 40
Views: 5729

Re: Are these contrails alarming?

This is what we hide inside the airplanes, our Type IV-I Chemical Mixer. The whole fleet is equipped with them now.....

Image

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by CALTECH
Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:11 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Distinct noise inside 737 cabins
Replies: 30
Views: 6696

Re: Distinct noise inside 737 cabins

I've noticed that 737s have a very distinct humming sound in the cabin. It usually persists before throughout the flight, though it can be heard well only during taxi and when the a/c is idle. I'm not sure if its there in the cabins of original and classic 737's, but I've experienced it on NG's. An...

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by CALTECH
Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released
Replies: 1797
Views: 387022

Re: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery coming in April

It is kind of interesting that 737-800, N37267, is being painted by Leading Edge Aviation Services in Amarillo. At the same time, 787-10, N91007, is being painted by Leading Edge Aviation Services as well at Meacham airport in Fort Worth. Full strip and paint, including wings. More than likely the ...

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by CALTECH
Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

https://ft.ual.com/-/media/ual_intranet/images/headlines/aircraft/star-wars-2.jpg Sorry about the link not working for some of you.... https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/01/53/71/17219139/3/920x920.jpg https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/01/53/71/17219140/3/1024x1024.png https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/01/53/71...

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by CALTECH
Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

April 17th is a Evolution Day.... ..?

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by CALTECH
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

There are 4 aircraft showing they are up in Minot Air Force Base, 136, 238, 4007 and 4260. Showing no Status or MX info on these birds. I was stationed at Minot AFB, don't think there are any aviation businesses there. 'MIB' is the internal code for Miami Base Maintenance to avoid confusion with th...

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by CALTECH
Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 713127

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

There are 4 aircraft showing they are up in Minot Air Force Base, 136, 238, 4007 and 4260. Showing no Status or MX info on these birds. I was stationed at Minot AFB, don't think there are any aviation businesses there. 'MIB' is the internal code for Miami Base Maintenance to avoid confusion with th...

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