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by cathay747
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:50 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why retract flaps on the ground?
Replies: 51
Views: 7025

Re: Why retract flaps on the ground?

Gee, I like your screen-name! LOL How does retracting slats/flaps on the ground save fuel? You've totally lost me on that comment. :? It's mainly about extra drag requiring more thrust from the engine. The affect of the extra drag might be negligible on short taxis but in larger airports with many ...

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by cathay747
Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why retract flaps on the ground?
Replies: 51
Views: 7025

Re: Why retract flaps on the ground?

Retracting the flaps (and leading edge slats) keeps them from getting damaged by ground equipment at the gate. I have the opposite question from the OP and it's funny this thread came up because I've been wondering about this for some. Your explanation above is of course the correct & obvious a...

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by cathay747
Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:22 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why retract flaps on the ground?
Replies: 51
Views: 7025

Re: Why retract flaps on the ground?

Cathay777300ER wrote:
I would also say in some airports with longer taxi time it will save enough fuel to make it reasonable to retract the flaps.


Gee, I like your screen-name! LOL

How does retracting slats/flaps on the ground save fuel? You've totally lost me on that comment. :?

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by cathay747
Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:04 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why retract flaps on the ground?
Replies: 51
Views: 7025

Re: Why retract flaps on the ground?

Retracting the flaps (and leading edge slats) keeps them from getting damaged by ground equipment at the gate. I have the opposite question from the OP and it's funny this thread came up because I've been wondering about this for some. Your explanation above is of course the correct & obvious a...

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by cathay747
Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

910A wrote:
Here you go..I believe Mesa operated two under Desert Sun. Very comfortable, I remember flying on one PHX-FAT maybe around 1996 or 1997..

Image


Sweet. Looks nice in the HP livery. Thanks for the pic. Where did they fly them to?

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by cathay747
Thu May 30, 2019 8:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

define "the same". OO went from no presence, to 13 CRJ-200s based in PHX to now a CRJ-700 fleet that flows between LAX & PHX. YV went from Dashes and Beechcraft to CRJs to an all CRJ-900 fleet. Can't forget the fine Fokker 70s. Loved working those. Fokker 70's, here at PHX??? Whose? S...

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by cathay747
Wed May 29, 2019 1:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

@alasizon what I found most interesting was this article stating ''Right now, Americans make up 65% to 75% of the passengers on the Phoenix-Frankfurt flight, said Henry Sunley, the commercial director of sales for Thomas Cook Airlines, Condor’s parent company.. He would like to get those numbers cl...

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by cathay747
Tue May 28, 2019 12:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

@alasizon what I found most interesting was this article stating ''Right now, Americans make up 65% to 75% of the passengers on the Phoenix-Frankfurt flight, said Henry Sunley, the commercial director of sales for Thomas Cook Airlines, Condor’s parent company.. He would like to get those numbers cl...

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by cathay747
Tue May 28, 2019 12:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaii Airports and Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 179
Views: 24829

Re: Hawaii Airports and Aviation Thread - 2019

First... the easy question to answer. NH's target market is nihonjin, all of whom are certified operators of bidet toilets... even inakajin (country folk, some of whom went from squat toilets to bidet toilets). The tougher question is the one you raised, cabin configuration on the Honu. My personal...

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by cathay747
Mon May 27, 2019 11:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

Well it appears Condor will start its seasonal 2x weekly FRA-PHX on April 4th for 2020 before going 3x weekly in May. I have a feeling this will be tweaked again before the final schedule is published. This would be an entire new month from its current 2019 schedule of May-October at 3x weekly, may...

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by cathay747
Sun May 26, 2019 2:43 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: How do airlines rebook pax on canceled sold out flights?
Replies: 14
Views: 2191

Re: How do airlines rebook pax on canceled sold out flights?

One simple solution would be to just fly an extra-section the next day with the airplane that's still sitting there which FORK needs to get out and back in their system. I'm presuming here a MX cancel, or a major weather-even-cancel such as a snowstorm where the issue is cleared up by the next day.

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by cathay747
Sun May 26, 2019 2:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

Does anybody know anything about the Avianca Brazil 320 that just landed at GYR? Registered PR-OBB, coming in from TUS and previously PTY. I know O6 ceased ops yesterday, but does anyone know who this aircraft is going to? Boy, that was fast! Wonder if any more will be coming. Probably too soon to ...

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by cathay747
Sat May 25, 2019 2:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaii Airports and Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 179
Views: 24829

Re: Hawaii Airports and Aviation Thread - 2019

NH commenced (24 May 2019) regular service, HNL/TYO, on Honu (A380 in sea turtle livery). https://www.staradvertiser.com/2019/05/24/breaking-news/ana-launches-superjumbo-jet-service-between-honolulu-and-tokyo/ HNL has NH's only NH-operated overseas lounge (F pax only). The mediocre UA/NH joint loun...

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by cathay747
Thu May 23, 2019 1:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

With regard to above posts, which I'm only seeing early this morning, and about which I'm stunned, it's also officially on Routes Online this morning... British Airways in this week’s schedule update moved forward planned Boeing 747-400 aircraft replacement on London Heathrow – Phoenix route. At th...

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by cathay747
Thu May 23, 2019 1:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

This one, along with seven others, were sold to AFO Airwork (NZ). They will all be freighters. The first two went to Aviastar Tu. Ah, OK then! Thanks. Wonder what work will be done at GYR? I'm not aware of GYR being capable of performing a pax-to-freighter conversion. Looks like N659AA, another Air...

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by cathay747
Thu May 23, 2019 1:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

The downgrade to the 789 (as opposed to the 77W) was likely made possible by extending AA to year-round. I'm still not sold on it being the right Winter capacity if bookings were truly as strong as they were quoted. Looking at the seats the only significant decrease is Y, otherwise other classes ar...

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by cathay747
Wed May 22, 2019 12:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

With regard to above posts, which I'm only seeing early this morning, and about which I'm stunned, it's also officially on Routes Online this morning... British Airways in this week’s schedule update moved forward planned Boeing 747-400 aircraft replacement on London Heathrow – Phoenix route. At the...

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by cathay747
Tue May 21, 2019 4:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

Retired AA 757 N603AA came in to GYR yesterday a bit past 1600 (flew right over our house in Avondale on downwind leg)...curiously it came from ROW. Maybe this indicates the old bird will be getting a new lease on life with somebody? This one, along with seven others, were sold to AFO Airwork (NZ)....

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by cathay747
Tue May 21, 2019 12:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

Retired AA 757 N603AA came in to GYR yesterday a bit past 1600 (flew right over our house in Avondale on downwind leg)...curiously it came from ROW. Maybe this indicates the old bird will be getting a new lease on life with somebody?

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by cathay747
Wed May 15, 2019 10:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 59 years of Lufthansa operations in California
Replies: 24
Views: 3927

Re: 59 years of Lufthansa operations at SFO

Noshow wrote:
What happened to the paint in the cockpit roof section?


I was wondering the same thing! VERY odd...along with the gray surrounding the lower area of the 1R door.

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by cathay747
Wed May 15, 2019 10:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 59 years of Lufthansa operations in California
Replies: 24
Views: 3927

Re: 59 years of Lufthansa operations at SFO

The AMS stop on LH’s FRA-LAX route lasted well into the late 70s, even after the route transitioned to a 747. Why was this, out of curiosity? Anybody know? FRA-LAX is 5806 statue miles per Great Circle Mapper...certainly a 747 could do that, couldn't the preceding 707-330B's? (maybe the 430's could...

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by cathay747
Wed May 15, 2019 1:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN announces service to ITO
Replies: 93
Views: 13829

Re: WN announces service to ITO

Western flew LAX-ITO also. I though PA dropped ITO in 1969. Did it last longer than that? Western dropped out around the same time as I recall. WA lasted until the mid-1970. PA added ITO in 1967 and dropped it in 1969, AFAIK. PA was the first to drop ITO. I was looking at departedflights.com yester...

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by cathay747
Sun May 12, 2019 1:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN announces service to ITO
Replies: 93
Views: 13829

Re: WN announces service to ITO

ITO was always a poor performer from the mainland. To much rain and few significant resorts compared to other areas of the islands. Predict this won't last long. ITO also only has one flight to the mainland on UA. Hilo is also the second largest city in Hawaii. I dont think ITO will be getting 2 wi...

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by cathay747
Wed May 08, 2019 10:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Admits It Has No Brand Purpose
Replies: 104
Views: 22236

Re: American Airlines Admits It Has No Brand Purpose

Every time I am on AA it is on time and everyone is friendly and helpful. I see little difference in my AA experience and my DL experience. Agreed, I've never had a bad experience with AA...I would have to consistently rate them as at least "meets expectations". I don't know if I've just ...

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by cathay747
Wed May 08, 2019 5:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

Found this in the "American Airlines Network 2019" thread...mind it does say "estimated" but still nice to see that we're more profitable than MIA by a healthy margin! Hope this finally puts the last nail in the coffin of the talk about PHX being de-hubbed! tphuang wrote: interes...

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by cathay747
Wed May 08, 2019 2:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Continental Micronesia Extended Routes
Replies: 39
Views: 5452

Re: Continental Micronesia Extended Routes

Many of those Air Mike widebodies routing between HNL and the west coast were rotating through for scheduled maintenance Right! That was the reason I couldn't remember when I posted above yesterday. In fact, I think it was about the only reason, other than maybe mainline-CO borrowing-back an Air Mi...

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by cathay747
Tue May 07, 2019 6:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Continental Micronesia Extended Routes
Replies: 39
Views: 5452

Re: Continental Micronesia Extended Routes

I had always thought Continental Micronesia flew the island hopper between HNL-GUM. It never occurred to me they would fly beyond that route. This pic was posted 5516833 and blew me away. How often did they fly outside the "Island Hopper" route? Has anyone here ever flown CO Micronesia 72...

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by cathay747
Tue May 07, 2019 6:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Continental Micronesia Extended Routes
Replies: 39
Views: 5452

Re: Continental Micronesia Extended Routes

Wikipedia states that Air Micronesia has previously served ITO. I don’t believe that is correct. CO served ITO from the mainland in the early-1970s though. Anyone know for sure if Air Mike ever served ITO? Hi...no, they did not, only HNL. You are quite correct however in that CO did serve ITO from ...

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by cathay747
Sat May 04, 2019 1:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

Nice sub today. American operated a 77W in place of a 757 this morning for flight #812 from DFW at B25..returned to DFW as #9240 at 1051 hrs MST. Especially nice for any avgeek's onboard! Wow. But what catches my eye is the return flight #...9240? I thought AA only used the 9000-range of numbers fo...

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by cathay747
Fri May 03, 2019 1:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

BMIMSNPHX wrote:
An Antonov 124 is parked west of T2 at Sky Harbor. An impressive sight! It flew in from ANC around 4:45 this morning


Glad I wasn't driving by on I-10 when that beast came in...I probably would have caused/been in an accident trying to watch it!!

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by cathay747
Fri May 03, 2019 1:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

Nice sub today. American operated a 77W in place of a 757 this morning for flight #812 from DFW at B25..returned to DFW as #9240 at 1051 hrs MST. Especially nice for any avgeek's onboard! Wow. But what catches my eye is the return flight #...9240? I thought AA only used the 9000-range of numbers fo...

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by cathay747
Wed May 01, 2019 12:14 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Where does UA fly the 777-300ER out of?
Replies: 12
Views: 2708

Re: Where does UA fly the 777-300ER out of?

...and even SFO-OGG. It’s quite a sight seeing a plane as large as the 77W at an airport as small as OGG. It’s longest runway is only 6995 ft, a testament to the performance capabilities of the 777. 77H Indeed. Enough to give one a vision of the Dooliitle Raid B-25's launching off the deck of the H...

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by cathay747
Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

Phoenix – Honolulu eff 29MAR20 2 weekly (9 weekly from 07APR20, 14 weekly from 07MAY20) Phoenix – Kahului eff 29MAR20 11 weekly (8 weekly from 06APR20) Phoenix – Kona eff 29MAR20 8 weekly (4 weekly 05APR20 – 10MAY20, 7 weekly from 11MAY20) Phoenix – Lihue eff 29MAR20 8 weekly (4-5 weekly 09APR20 – ...

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by cathay747
Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

For anybody who hasn't heard/read this from the source or other means... https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/283992/american-files-preliminary-new-a321neo-routes-in-s20/ American files preliminary new A321neo routes in S20 By Jim Liu Posted 22 April 2019 07:00 American Airlines during ...

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by cathay747
Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

I saw BA289 turning from downwind to base to final yesterday evening (Tues 4/23)...looked like the Negus ship?

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by cathay747
Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

Hi everyone, Somebody started a new thread "AA Phoenix to Tokyo?" where I just learned something new...and this is what I posted as a reply. Thought I'd get your take, whomever would like to chime in, on what I'm speculating... I guess I missed the memo on AA applying for LAS-HND. I'm ver...

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by cathay747
Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Phoenix to Tokyo?
Replies: 68
Views: 9637

Re: AA Phoenix to Tokyo?

If not for the Gulf War destroying the loads of America West's 747 venture to Japan in the early 1990s, I think the market may have matured and AA may have inherited PHX-NRT with the merger with US. But, it was not to be. Tough to say now, I'm sure they could find a way to fill a 787, but I'm not s...

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by cathay747
Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Phoenix to Tokyo?
Replies: 68
Views: 9637

Re: AA Phoenix to Tokyo?

I thought AA was dehubbing PHX? NO they are not. They have right-sized it a bit since the merger, which for this coming summer translates to only a net of 6 fewer average daily flights YOY from last summer, with the new PHX/LHR daily, year-round nonstop being a BIG addition. I hope your post doesn'...

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by cathay747
Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

Hi everyone, Somebody started a new thread "AA Phoenix to Tokyo?" where I just learned something new...and this is what I posted as a reply. Thought I'd get your take, whomever would like to chime in, on what I'm speculating... I guess I missed the memo on AA applying for LAS-HND. I'm very...

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by cathay747
Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Phoenix to Tokyo?
Replies: 68
Views: 9637

Re: AA Phoenix to Tokyo?

I guess I missed the memo on AA applying for LAS-HND. I'm very surprised to learn this. Even though it would feed into a JL hub, it still strikes me as an odd route for AA to apply for. That being said...my take on this is that if AA gets that route, it'll really put the kabash on any hopes of them ...

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by cathay747
Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

OK here's a question...per FLIFO in Sabre, AA194 to LHR scheduled at 1510 as of this writing has a ETD of 1700 due to MX. It's at B25. Now, as per usual, BA289 is running late with ETA of 1833, so if the 1700 ETD for AA holds, all is well, but...if it's delayed longer and still at B25 when BA arriv...

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by cathay747
Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

travaz wrote:
Looks like AA 194 departed at 17:22. No conflict


Yes, blocked-out of the gate at 1709, off the field at 1722. BA289 didn't arrive until 1812. But I was speaking hypothetically about the gate issue.

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by cathay747
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

OK here's a question...per FLIFO in Sabre, AA194 to LHR scheduled at 1510 as of this writing has a ETD of 1700 due to MX. It's at B25. Now, as per usual, BA289 is running late with ETA of 1833, so if the 1700 ETD for AA holds, all is well, but...if it's delayed longer and still at B25 when BA arrive...

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by cathay747
Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA S19 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type
Replies: 74
Views: 11089

Re: AA S19 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Another MAGNIFICENT job on this; how you have the time & patience to do this blows me away. Thank you for it. For all the PHX-bashers in other threads who kept going on and on and on and on ad nauseum about PHX being dehubbed (or that it would be/should be)...I see we've only lost 6 departures Y...

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by cathay747
Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ORD and triple parallel landings
Replies: 37
Views: 5427

Re: ORD and triple parallel landings

PHX does it as well with all three of their runways! To the best of my knowledge that's not correct. You might want to ask about this in the PHX thread, I bet that "atcsundevil" would know for sure, if not one of the other guys frequently posting in there. But I'm pretty sure this doesn't...

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by cathay747
Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Launches EWR/CPT
Replies: 107
Views: 19675

Re: UA Launches EWR/CPT

minilinde wrote:
That's a whole lot of water!

Image


Only 60mi. more water than YVR-SYD which AC flies nonstop:

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=ewr-cpt%2Cyvr-syd&MS=wls&DU=mi

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by cathay747
Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

What was the journey for QF7 at PHX? Did it pull into a gate, or just stop somewhere to wait out the storm and top up with some petrol? Based on the ground-time I saw on Flight Aware, it was only here for a little over an hour, so yeah...it was basically just a gas-and-go which, along with the flyi...

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by cathay747
Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Adds New Routes
Replies: 94
Views: 16423

Re: AA Adds New Routes

AA should consider adding PHX-YYZ and PHX-YYC, you got snowbird pax along with options to connect at PHX. It is kind of odd that they fly PHX-YEG in the winter, but not PHX-YYC. What kind of demand is there for YYZ-PHX? I'm guessing Toronto pax are more likely to fly to the Gulf Coast areas than AZ...

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by cathay747
Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

I'm surprised as hell at this. Same # of F, slight increase in J and W, rather large cut in Y compared with our current 744. I wonder if cargo needs are driving this? Mind this is preliminary and a year off, but still a good indicator of the market need. I guess there's more demand for F than many ...

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by cathay747
Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 562
Views: 71739

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

At least it's not a 77E or a 787. It bodes well that BA has "upgraded" to a more premium heavy airplane based on the percentage of seats. I'm surprised as hell at this. Same # of F, slight increase in J and W, rather large cut in Y compared with our current 744. I wonder if cargo needs ar...

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