<i>"Lack of fact-checking is what makes A.net a breeding ground of rumors..."</i> Amen, brother. <i>"I wish I had the equipment and knowledge to send you a color cross-section of a high bypass jet engine illustrating the internal airflows - it's pretty amazing."</i> Indeed they are amazing. Here's a...
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The TF39 is the predecessor of the CF6, not exactly the militarized version. Its distinctive roar is caused by the 1.5 stage fan arrangement. The CF6 is much quieter, having a more modern single-stage fan. But you're right about the TF39 having a kick-ass sound!
--Shane
Sweet pic, Bruce! It's the perfect illustration for my previous post.
--Shane
<i>"No. Will never be feasible."</i> Just like the horseless carriage and the computer that could fit into one room. <i>"Maybe if research started now into liquid hydrogen propulsion there might be a prospect."</i> The scramjets and pulse-detonation engines that are under research right now are all ...
Jump to postAs others have mentioned, all engines have aft cones. Some are just hidden inside the nacelles. The cones provide a flowpath for the air that is exhausting the core of the engine. The exit of the engine core has an annular cross-section. If left to its own devices the exhaust flow would recirculate ...
Jump to postI'm not signing up for AOL no matter how slow this gets
I hope they get it fixed up soon.
--Shane
Mr.BA,
Thrust reversers are located on the nacelle. I believe T/R deployment is pretty much independent of engine size. I don't think it would take any longer to deploy T/R on a GE90 than any other engine.
--Shane
More info and bigger photo here: http://www.boeing.com/news/frontiers/archive/2003/april/i_ca2.html
I like it, too. Good to see that airframers are putting due effort into interior design.
--Shane
Pilots who put in an Avgas request to "top it off" when they really meant "to the tabs" then get all pissy when see a completely full tank of gas!
--Shane
I believe the sound you are talking about is called buzzsaw noise. It is the sound of shockwaves caused by the fan blades in the engine. Each blade causes it own shockwave as it travels through its arc. The effect of successive shockwaves sounds like a loud buzz. You usually only hear it at take-off...
Jump to postHi all: When I post to a forum from my home computer the Username field defaults to "grandtheftaero" (all lower case). When I post using the computer at work it defaults at "GrandTheftAero" (the capitalization scheme I prefer). At home I have to manually change the "g...t...a" to "G...T...A". What's...
Jump to postWow... this is all new to me! Are these explanations based on facts or opinions? Every piece of literature I have read, documentary I have seen, and conversation I have had with ex-MD employees placed <acronym title="Air Madagascar">MD</acronym>'s demise solely on the loss of the Joint Strike Fighte...
Jump to postOn the DC-10 (and I assume <acronym title="Air Madagascar">MD</acronym>-11 as well) the tail engine is the same as the other two. The only difference is that some of the bleed air plumbing is routed differently. VS340, can you explain how the tail engine looks different than the other two? Perhaps y...
Jump to post<i>"The name of the airline is <acronym title="Japan Asia Airways">EG</acronym>&G..... What does it stand for?"</i> Actually <acronym title="Japan Asia Airways">EG</acronym>&G is the name of the contractor that operates the airline. It's the initials of the last names of the company's founders: Haro...
Jump to postYes, jet engines can be started in-flight. One of the major test points for a new-development engine is an in-flight start up. Usually if an engine experiences an in-flight shut down it is taken off wing when the plane lands and is serviced ASAP so the question of remain hours is somewhat moot. I gu...
Jump to postCaptaingomes, Indeed... Honda does make engines for many different applications. But according to their website they are all reciprocating (with the exception of their turbofan). And unless Honda ever built steam engines or Sterling cycle engines, they are also all most definitely internal combustio...
Jump to post<i>"I'd be more impressed if they were designing the engines, since they are the largest engine manufacturer in the world. Why are they getting into airframe design?"</i> Jet engines are actually <u>nothing</u> like reciprocating engines used in automobiles. Starting from scratch I think Honda would...
Jump to post<i>"I'd guess it'd have to be close to the 777's tag, given all the new engine..."</i> Actually, only Pratt & Whitney is designing a new centerline engine. <acronym title="Trans Asia Airways (Taiwan)">GE</acronym> is designing an engine based on the GE90 core. Rolls Royce is designing one around the...
Jump to postHmm... I could have sworn that thread was in the Civil Aviation forum... could they have moved it to this forum? Looks like they also removed the last couple of posts where the discussion turned into a kindergarten. I could also just be mental. In any case... any know about those spools?
Jump to postIn the Civil Aviation forum there is a thread entitled "Trent900 Verses GP7200". It started off interesting but it has broken down into childish name-calling. It did spark a question in my mind though. If I am not mistaken, Roll-Royce uses an intermediate pressure (IP) spool in their Trent engines (...
Jump to postGeez, this is one harsh thread. Lotta 7E7-haters here. Might I remind you all that in your first aerodynamics class they taught that worst speed regime to fly in was right below Mach 1, i.e. the speed where the Sonic Cruiser was to cruise. <acronym title="Shandong Airlines (China)">SC</acronym> was ...
Jump to post<i>"Ugh, as much as people say the 7E7 is something "new"...its still going to be a typical looking plane"</i> Many are correct in saying that the 7E7 looks like any other tube with wings (plus maybe a shark fin for the vertical stab). But before you pass judgment I would ask that you take a look at...
Jump to postOPNLguy, Thanks for the info. I'm familiar with this accident and I suspected that it had something to do with aft attachment hardware separating before the forward attachment hardware. I should point out that the website I pasted into my first message was not the first place that I read/heard of th...
Jump to postHello All: Here's a link to an article about the <acronym title="American Airlines (USA)">AA</acronym> 191 crash if you are unfamiliar: <a href="http://www.airdisaster.com/special/special-aa191.shtml">http://www.airdisaster.com/special/special-aa191.shtml</a> Reports say that when the engine disconn...
Jump to postHey all: I'm a senior at Cal Poly Pomona (Go Broncos!) studying Aerospace Engineering. I also work at <acronym title="Trans Asia Airways (Taiwan)">GE</acronym> Aircraft Engines located at <acronym title="Ontario - International (ONT / KONT), USA - California">ONT</acronym> where we do CF6 overhaul. ...
Jump to postLehpron: I think you're right about the shape. According to Cessna's website the airspeed limit for the Citation X is Mach 0.92. Even if you did put afterburners on it (which would be cool as hell, BTW) you'd probably fly it to pieces before you reached Mach 1. --Shane P.S. While working at <acronym...
Jump to post<i>you cannot separate the definitions from the technical descriptions</i> Agreed. Believe it or not, I also appreciate being corrected when I slip up. Although after being corrected by the same guy twice in two days I was feeling a bit singled out. Silly of me, really... new-guy complex, I guess&nb...
Jump to postFred: Maybe you should be an English teacher instead of an aviation enthusiast. You seem like a smart guy but this is the second thread where you have nitpicked the semantics of my post <img src="/discussions/graphics/angry.gif" ALT="Angry"> instead of constructively augmenting the technical c...
Jump to post<i>As the plane pitches up, the overall drag may get bigger</i> This is caused by induced drag. As the plane pitches up the lift vector tilts back. If you do a trigonometric break down of the lift vector, the horizontal component of lift creates drag. This is what is call induced drag, it is purely ...
Jump to postThanks, 747Teach, for the informative post. Like I said, I've never seen the bolts that attach the engine to the pylon but I have seen the pins in the mounts. Indeed, they are solid as a rock (a titanium rock, as it were).
Jump to postWingscrubber, you got it exactly right. If an engine is shut down in-flight, the air passing though the engine will make the rotors rotate... just like a windmill, thus the term "windmilling". Jet engines will also windmill while sitting on the ground just due to wind, as you may have seen at an air...
Jump to postTouche, FredT... I should have said, "where the maximum camber is located near the trailing edge with most of the curvature at the bottom surface of the wing." Here is what I am talking about:<br> <center><img src="http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Newsroom/FactSheets/Popups/Images/FS-044-DFRC_popup2.jpg"></...
Jump to post<i>"The top is curved downwards, and that's the important part. The bottom of the wing, well, it's not nearly as important."</i> Actually most modern high-subsonic airliners have supercritical wings where most of the camber is located on the BOTTOM on the wing. Check out the "Supercritical Wings" th...
Jump to postIn a nutshell, supercritical wings have nearly flat tops and most of their camber at the bottom part of the wing near the trailing edge. This moves the point where the flow becomes sonic toward the trailing edge of the wing. This is important because at this point along the wing chord a shockwave fo...
Jump to postIn our Senior Vehicle Design class in college we learned that airplanes are approximately paid for "by the pound". To prove this to ourselves we went to Boeing's price list and compared the cost of the plane to its MTOW (also available from Boeing's website) by using a least-squares regression line....
Jump to postI know this isn't an airline (actually it isn't even a real airplane!) but it has to be my all-time favorite scale model... Testors F-19 Stealth Fighter Testors designed a plastic model based on "expert" descriptions of what the F-117 Nighhawk would look like before the US<acronym title="Air France"...
Jump to postThanks, Air2gxs... shear pins sound much more sensible than explosive bolts.
Jump to postFYI... weight is a very important charateristic of those tugs too. A large pick-up truck could probably tow something like a Gulfstream V but it wouldn't have enough weight to slow it down quickly, let alone stop it, after you got the <acronym title="Riga Airlines (Latvia)">GV</acronym> moving. When...
Jump to postA fellow aerospace engineer once told me that the bolts holding the engines to the pylon on the 747 were explosive. According to him, this was so the engines could be ditched in case they caused undue loading on the airframe. Being a CF6 engineer I found this to be quite odd because I had never hear...
Jump to postWTF? Wouldn't that turn into a coral reef anyway... leaving nothing for future generations but a big crusty silhouette of the Concorde?
--Shane
[Edited 2003-12-06 19:46:01]
I think space tourism is inevitable, and quite honestly if I could afford it, I'd take a trip myself. What absolutely pisses me off is guys like Peter Diamandis and Burt Rutan who talk about their pie-in-the-sky plans of opening up the next new frontier to the people of Earth for $15,000 a ticket. P...
Jump to postAGM100, 747GE has four pylons just like any other 747 but the inboard left pylon is custom built for the test engine. Currently a CF34-10 occupies that position, before that it was a GE90-115B. <br><center><font color="#EEEEEE" size="1" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva"><a href="/open.file/458222/L/" ...
Jump to postIndeed... here is a link to some info about the GAO report (scroll to about half way down the page) complete with some slick references, too.
http://www.fas.org/irp/mystery/aurora.htm
High-bypass turbofans (like the CF6) actually do have IGVs but they are not in front of the Fan. They are located before the Stage 1 Rotor in the High Pressure Compressor. In this application, their purpose is purely aerodynamic. They condition the flow of air from the Fan Booster for the Stage 1 HP...
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