You’re a zealot not a Fabian. I am not asking you to bail out rich people I am suggesting we don’t make normal people destitute. These are not normal days for anyone and every unpaid mortgage has a family and kids as collateral damage. This is not a textbook example, a pub discussion or a willy wavi...Jump to post
Virgin Atlantic is a worthy investment for investors who can afford a longer investment horizon. It is probably a good thing that investment banks are involved as advisors and that sovereign wealth funds are considered. I find it somewhat surprising that the Bank of England hasn't followed yet the ...Jump to post
Context, context, context. Virgin’s major problem was not having a partner as SRB saw the rise of alliances as a cartel. He was eventually talked round and the business was well back on track partnering with Delta. That alone means a corner had been turned and the future was brighter. And then along...Jump to post
They were worth more and Wardair were trying to finance their A310 purchase so liquidity came in useful.Jump to post
seahawk wrote:Everett could be closed.
So, after 10 or so pages of comment, the one question we all want to know the answer to is... is the Virgin screwed ? Everyone is screwed, without a vaccine, social distancing is a medium term public health requirement which means aviation cannot operate on a commercial basis. Nine abreast wide bod...Jump to post
EasyJet or Jet2 are more likely to be seen as the 2nd flag carrier than Virgin. Both have more aircraft and fly far more passengers. Rubbish on stilts. Not one human being has ever seen easyJet as a flag carrier, even less so ChanEx, both of which are excellent businesses. Look this is politics, VS...Jump to post
I find it amusing how you fail to recognize that VS gives business to all those mentioned companies. Helping VS means helping them. It is a domino effect If they go under, those same companies will get business from other airlines. You seriously think other airlines won't fly to lhr and pay the fee...Jump to post
In terms of self awareness, chatting about the impact of JetBlue’s London operation on BA is nonsense on stilts! The size of transatlantic market isn’t going to be able to sustain VS, BA and the AMERICAN legacies at anything near their Summer 2019 volumes until God only knows when. Summer 2020 is a ...Jump to post
Not to get too far off topic, but I think that's a misconception about DL these days... It used to be true, but now DL has plenty of JFK feed. Pre COVID-19, they were planning on operating well over 150 daily domestic flights for this summer, with ~100 of them being mainline. You can’t say that one...Jump to post
It’s St Athan not St Albans, and not exclusively as Victorville was the favoured place beforehand. Not sure a press release is ever done as you suggest, but in all fairness, the summer 2020 program is trashed, the quads won’t be needed for winter and next summer will be a challenge. But no one knows...Jump to post
Stelios is really hurting the company right now by behaving like a spoilt child. He didn't mind how company was run while he was taking millions in dividends. He really needs to sell up or shut up. Well said, it's ridiculous. The dividend he took last month of £60m is pretty disgraceful - especiall...Jump to post
Let Delta save it! Enough with begging the government! BA controlling LHR is enough. Virgin doesn't contribute anything and is not needed. Totally obsolete. Same way Air France controls Paris, KLM Amsterdam and Lufthansa Frankfurt and Munich. It's hard to take your post seriously, but as we are all...Jump to post
Some of the replies above are commercially insane, some of them are good. For me, the key is to what extent business travel rebounds, as BA are VERY heavyily focussed on the front cabin, whereas Virgin Atlantic are not quite so exposed. No 86J cabins at Virgin Towers. Timing is key here, forward bo...Jump to post
Some of the replies above are commercially insane, some of them are good. For me, the key is to what extent business travel rebounds, as BA are VERY heavyily focussed on the front cabin, whereas Virgin Atlantic are not quite so exposed. No 86J cabins at Virgin Towers. Timing is key here, forward boo...Jump to post
So, you’re saying that if Virgin fails, Delta is out of LHR? Yeah, they lose their LHR based partner. But, don’t they have their own slots at LHR that they have had since before Delta and Virgin teamed up? Delta has a limited portfolio of LHR slots themselves. Delta flights tend to be from their hu...Jump to post
Delta probably will no let Virgin die since they are too important to their Atlantic operation. Virgin Atlantic's slots are Delta's primary way into London Heathrow. So, you’re saying that if Virgin fails, Delta is out of LHR? Yeah, they lose their LHR based partner. But, don’t they have their own ...Jump to post
Stelios is a mouth on legs and is the reason ENTREPRENEURS DON NOT RUN BUSINESSES. As a founder, his success rate is tiny and he’s the wealthy son of a family worth billions. He does not run, and has not run easyJet for years. He uses it as a cash cow and extracts as much as he can from it, at the r...Jump to post
If half of climate science is real (and it is), we should not be subsiding heavily polluting industries I agree. Let’s ban shipping and close data centres. Don’t get me started on air conditioning. Look mate, if you think green taxes are aimed at saving the planet I have some magic beans I want to ...Jump to post
I'd be surprised if more than 50% of the BA 744 fleet ever flew for them again, my feeling is BA will remove the B744 and A380 fleet entirely. The summer season is lost, factor in the collapse in confidence, the many who have lost their jobs and the sheer nervousness about sitting on a plane with co...Jump to post
Some of the lost capacity may not be needed for a VERY long time. We’re going to emerge into a recession, or possibly a depression. People won’t be flying nearly as frequently, and this will be like the post 9-11 restructure, on stilts. Long haul capacity will be cut and growth plans binned. This is...Jump to post
Given the situation today, it would make more sense for Air Canada to simply walk away. They're going to be in no fit state to merge Air Transat into Rouge to combine a larger leisure carrier. They're going to be taking an axe to both Rouge and mainline for the medium term, this Northern summer is a...Jump to post
McG1967 wrote:C-GSAT operated TS724/5 to GLA today. Depending on how quickly Air Transat suspend their remaining services, there is a possibility today was last ever A310 visit to GLA.
Don't know whether it's related but it seems that A333 C-GFUR has not returned to service since it flew back from Singapore at the end of February and landed at YYZ. No point flying an aircraft that is in a different configuration then the other 330s. It would just be more of a headache for operati...Jump to post
Do you really think they were carrying many passengers on those flights in the current climate? The goose has been cooked, not only for Norwegian but for British Airways and every other European airline right now. In airline terms it’s the apocalypse, barring state intervention. It’s a moot point n...Jump to post
Maybe, maybe not. The Norwegian government has announced that it will financially support norwegian airlines during this crisis. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-airlines-norway/norway-to-help-airlines-with-funding-amid-virus-outbreak-pm-idUSKBN20Y1LG Only a bit of Norwegian is...Jump to post
Only been questioned in the cabin once in 20 years of flying, when I was in row 1 of an Aer Lingus A320 on SNN-LHR and I snapped every heavy on the taxi in. I learned self awareness that day, sit further back out of direct sight of cabin crew and don’t take *quite so many*. As for ramp photos, it’s ...Jump to post
It’s incredibly hard to shrink a business to profitability, especially when your whole business model is predicated on a dash for growth in new markets. If those new markets don’t make money, you can retreat, but you’ve taken on a whole load of new capital outlay you need to sell on. Tricky one sadly.Jump to post
Am I the only one noting that the guy filming was trespassing where he really shouldn't have been? Especially with a road and a barbed wire fence between him and the airport I would say yes, you are the only one who got it wrong. Lets keep this one in mind for post of the year... I know where he is...Jump to post
Tristarsteve wrote:skipness1E wrote:Am I the only one noting that the guy filming was trespassing where he really shouldn't have been?
With a barbed wire fence between him and the aircraft?
Am I the only one noting that the guy filming was trespassing where he really shouldn't have been?Jump to post
If everything bigger or more valuable than a paper cup that crosses the channel needs to be accompanied by five pieces of paper and have duties paid (the cost of leaving the customs union and diverging from internationally agreed standards, as currently promised by the British government), Britain’...Jump to post
I would envisage the likes of LH and KLM putting a lot of pressure on their home governments should any hint of LHR slots being forgoed due to political reasons. Where on Earth did you get this notion that HMG will be taking away slots from Lufthansa and KLM? What would be the rationale? No, it’s n...Jump to post
For EI and other IAG subsidiaries, I think they won’t be affected by this hard brexit. What about BA? If everything bigger or more valuable than a paper cup that crosses the channel needs to be accompanied by five pieces of paper and have duties paid (the cost of leaving the customs union and diver...Jump to post
They used to fly 2 x JNB and 1 x CPT out of LHR with three B747s. They're down to a single JNB on an A333. It's incredibly hard to shrink to profitability in this market especially given BA and VS are doing so well. Does LHR make them any money? If not, will selling it doing anything beyond postpone...Jump to post
thekorean wrote:I don't think right now, we can automatically assume VS's new routes will be from LHR. Could be from MAN.