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by UALFAson
Tue May 04, 2004 5:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Expands Caribbean, Mexico & L. America
Replies: 27
Views: 3963

RE: UA Expands Caribbean, Mexico & L. America

AARRRGGHHH! Of course <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> announces this expansion to warm-weather destinations just as I'm about to lose my stand-by passes. Grrrr!! I bet some of these weekly destinations will go more frequently once <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acrony...

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by UALFAson
Mon May 03, 2004 6:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Exit Row Seating Requirements
Replies: 35
Views: 21255

RE: Exit Row Seating Requirements

I had a similar experience a while back, Itsjustme. Flying <acronym title="Phoenix - Sky Harbor International (PHX / KPHX), USA - Arizona">PHX</acronym>-<acronym title="Baltimore / Washington - International (Friendship) (BWI / KBWI), USA - Maryland">BWI</acronym> on Southwest with a stop in <acrony...

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by UALFAson
Sun May 02, 2004 5:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Your Pick @ Best US AIRPORT(s)
Replies: 10
Views: 3163

RE: Your Pick @ Best US AIRPORT(s)

Ooo, good call on <acronym title="Honolulu - International / Hickam AFB (HNL / HIK / PHNL / PHIK), USA - Hawaii">HNL</acronym>. I second that! I'm also going to say <acronym title="Orlando - International (McCoy) (MCO / KMCO), USA - Florida">MCO</acronym>. Lots of carriers with a variety of aircraft...

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by UALFAson
Sat May 01, 2004 4:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Independence Air Startup Cities
Replies: 171
Views: 16682

RE: The Independence Air Startup Cities

No, <acronym title="Acapulco - General Juan Alvarez Int'l (ACA), Mexico">ACA</acronym> is ending its relationship with Delta as well. According to the press release, in July, 10 328JET aircraft will be moved from <acronym title="Boston - General Edward Lawrence Logan International (BOS / KBOS), USA ...

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by UALFAson
Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Don`t VS Join Star?
Replies: 12
Views: 2935

RE: Why Don`t VS Join Star?

Don't forget that <acronym title="Virgin Atlantic Airways (United Kingdom)">VS</acronym> is one of only 4 airlines allowed to fly b/t the US & Heathrow. Should they join *A, they'd be directly competing with <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> on flights b/t <acronym title="London - ...

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by UALFAson
Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AirTran Vs. United...And A New Aircraft Type.
Replies: 24
Views: 7602

RE: AirTran Vs. United...And A New Aircraft Type.

That is pretty interesting. Yeah, AirTran and <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> don't seem to go head-to-head in too many markets, so I wonder why <acronym title="Airtran (USA)">FL</acronym> is so bitter? To respond to a couple of points, first, the roll-out costs associated with T...

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by UALFAson
Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ted Humor!
Replies: 9
Views: 2608

RE: Ted Humor!

I gotcha, Sllevin! That was great! I love corny stuff like that!!

Now I'm gonna be telling that joke for the rest of the week...

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by UALFAson
Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Many Of You Could Do It?
Replies: 15
Views: 4755

RE: How Many Of You Could Do It?

I think some/many new CEOs face the challenge of disgruntled unions who may or may not be willing to give the new guy a chance. Not saying the unions don't have valid concerns, but incoming CEOs many times start off on the defensive. Although a new airline poses many challenges that an established c...

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by UALFAson
Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Waiting For Your Flight
Replies: 8
Views: 2495

RE: Waiting For Your Flight

Dude, I'm as big an aviation buff as anybody, but getting to the airport 3 hours early just to hang?? You are one sick little puppy.  Laugh out loud

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by UALFAson
Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UAL Vs. Indy Air...Let The Games Begin
Replies: 18
Views: 4381

UAL Vs. Indy Air...Let The Games Begin

United Airlines Offers Washington, DC Area Travelers Opportunity to Earn Credits for Free* Tickets Tuesday April 27, 11:34 am <acronym title="Ethiopian Airlines">ET</acronym> Passengers Can Earn and Redeem Credits for Free Travel to All International and Domestic Destinations Served by United, Unite...

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by UALFAson
Tue Apr 27, 2004 2:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Overbooking ... Good For Business?
Replies: 31
Views: 6417

RE: Overbooking ... Good For Business?

With all due respect to those who have endured nightmare overbooked scenarios, I think this is one of those things where people remember the ONE bad experience they had and decide (in this case) overbooking is ALWAYS a bad idea. I would bet that there are times we've <acronym title="Albenga (Villano...

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by UALFAson
Tue Apr 27, 2004 6:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What Will Happen If USAirways Goes Under?
Replies: 46
Views: 7055

RE: What Will Happen If USAirways Goes Under?

I know people who work for US, so, obviously, I hope it doesn't come down to this. But an interesting scenario to think through anyway. Just my $0.02s... <acronym title="American Airlines (USA)">AA</acronym> snaps up <acronym title="Washington - Ronald Reagan National (DCA / KDCA), USA - Virginia">D...

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by UALFAson
Tue Apr 27, 2004 5:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Overbooking ... Good For Business?
Replies: 31
Views: 6417

RE: Overbooking ... Good For Business?

In the airlines' defense, I think it makes complete sense to overbook flights. I used to frequently fly <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> b/t <acronym title="Washington - Ronald Reagan National (DCA / KDCA), USA - Virginia">DCA</acronym> & <acronym title="Chicago - O'Hare Internati...

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by UALFAson
Mon Apr 26, 2004 3:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TED To PHL Unconfirmed
Replies: 28
Views: 3036

RE: TED To PHL Unconfirmed

TonyBurr, you are a bad, bad man!! Suggesting <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> int'l service out of <acronym title="Philadelphia - International (PHL / KPHL), USA - Pennsylvania">PHL</acronym>...  <img src="/discussions/graphics/smile.gif" ALT="Smile"> I can see the threads n...

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by UALFAson
Mon Apr 26, 2004 2:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA 744s For IAD-FRA
Replies: 3
Views: 3350

RE: UA 744s For IAD-FRA

That's great to hear! This will supplement <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym>'s 744 <acronym title="Washington - Dulles International (IAD / KIAD), USA - Virginia">IAD</acronym>-<acronym title="London - Heathrow (LHR / EGLL), United Kingdom">LHR</acronym> service. I think <acronym t...

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by UALFAson
Mon Apr 26, 2004 12:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TED To PHL Unconfirmed
Replies: 28
Views: 3036

RE: TED To PHL Unconfirmed

I am in no way "in the loop" and this is just my personal opinion, but TED out of <acronym title="Philadelphia - International (PHL / KPHL), USA - Pennsylvania">PHL</acronym> doesn't make sense. TED is meant for leisure markets with lots of people on discounted tickets and currently empty first clas...

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by UALFAson
Sat Apr 24, 2004 3:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Most Star Alliance Logojets At One Airport?
Replies: 10
Views: 4217

RE: Most Star Alliance Logojets At One Airport?

Don't forget us at <acronym title="Los Angeles - International (LAX / KLAX), USA - California">LAX</acronym>!! I've seen at least half-a-dozen of the *A planes here, both the old and new designs. My mom occassionally worked the old <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> *A 767. She said...

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by UALFAson
Sat Apr 24, 2004 3:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Intl Route For UA
Replies: 17
Views: 5590

RE: New Intl Route For UA

Yes, <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> is starting <acronym title="Washington - Dulles International (IAD / KIAD), USA - Virginia">IAD</acronym>-<acronym title="Zurich (- Kloten) (ZRH / LSZH), Switzerland">ZRH</acronym> service, along with <acronym title="Chicago - O'Hare Internati...

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by UALFAson
Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Do You Book Stand-By Flights?
Replies: 9
Views: 46819

RE: How Do You Book Stand-By Flights?

I thought I read this in an article and double-checked AirTran's web site to prove I'm not crazy: If you're between 18-22, you can book an "X-Fare" or standby ticket on <acronym title="Airtran (USA)">FL</acronym>. It's $55 or $75 one way, but you have to travel space available. I think they're the o...

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by UALFAson
Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hours Of Bad Turbulence?
Replies: 25
Views: 7652

RE: Hours Of Bad Turbulence?

UA 747 <acronym title="Tokyo - New Tokyo International / Narita (NRT / RJAA), Japan">NRT</acronym>-<acronym title="Los Angeles - International (LAX / KLAX), USA - California">LAX</acronym> three weeks ago. Seatbelt sign stayed on almost entire overnight flight with F/As having to stay seated as well...

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by UALFAson
Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Interesting Facts About BA's LHR-LAD
Replies: 38
Views: 9836

RE: Interesting Facts About BA's LHR-LAD

A friend of mine has worked in several African countries through her job with the State Dept. and apparently this is a somewhat common occurance. I think it was in Cameroon, but she said when the inbound <acronym title="Air France">AF</acronym> flight from <acronym title="Paris - Charles de Gaulle (...

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by UALFAson
Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Anyone Remember Smoking On Planes?
Replies: 76
Views: 8308

RE: Anyone Remember Smoking On Planes?

Here in the States they have this great commercial--it starts off with all these close-ups of people with horrible 1970s hair and clothes in a yellow and orange plane all staring up at something. After several seconds of silence, there's a "Ping!" and the "no smoking" light is turned off. The whole ...

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by UALFAson
Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ever Doubt The Aircraft?
Replies: 38
Views: 3971

RE: Ever Doubt The Aircraft?

Wasn't so much a mechanical issue, but flew an <acronym title="American Airlines (USA)">AA</acronym> <acronym title="Air Madagascar">MD</acronym>-11 <acronym title="London - Gatwick (LGW / EGKK), United Kingdom">LGW</acronym>-<acronym title="Dallas / Fort Worth - International (DFW / KDFW), USA - Te...

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by UALFAson
Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta's Song Leaving IAD
Replies: 16
Views: 3544

RE: Delta's Song Leaving IAD

My guess--and this is just IMHO--was there was just too much competition. <acronym title="Orlando - International (McCoy) (MCO / KMCO), USA - Florida">MCO</acronym>-bound Washington flyers in <acronym title="Tower Air (USA)">FF</acronym> programs would stay loyal to their respective carriers and fly...

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by UALFAson
Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flown all the types in an airline's fleet?
Replies: 74
Views: 7219

RE: Flown All The Types In An Airline's Fleet?

Fun question...I never thought about that  <img src="/discussions/graphics/smile.gif" ALT="Smile"> When I finally flew a 762 redeye <acronym title="Los Angeles - International (LAX / KLAX), USA - California">LAX</acronym>-<acronym title="New York - John F. Kennedy International (Idlewild) (JFK ...

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by UALFAson
Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bad AA FA's Costing Airline Money
Replies: 22
Views: 3143

RE: Bad AA FA's Costing Airline Money

I'd like to know why just the FAs have been singled out for berating. In my frequent experience with <acronym title="American Airlines (USA)">AA</acronym>, <acronym title="Albenga (Villanova d'Albenga) (- Clemente Panero) (ALL / LIMG), Italy">ALL</acronym> their employee groups have consistently dem...

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by UALFAson
Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Experimental C/s That Never Were......
Replies: 17
Views: 4258

RE: Experimental C/s That Never Were......

I don't know if you'd call it experimental, but <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> only repainted a handful of their Shuttle aircraft in white with red "Shuttle by United" scripty writing and the regular blue tail. Then you've got the regular gray scripty "Shuttle" aircraft and the ...

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by UALFAson
Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ORD Vs. CDG? Need Help For A Friend.
Replies: 8
Views: 3551

RE: ORD Vs. CDG? Need Help For A Friend.

Although I've flown to <acronym title="Paris - Charles de Gaulle (Roissy) (CDG / LFPG), France">CDG</acronym>, I haven't changed planes there, so I have no comment on that. BUT, I have arrived internationally at both <acronym title="Covington / Cincinnati - Northern Kentucky International (Greater C...

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by UALFAson
Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Best 'wild' Airline Interiors?
Replies: 3
Views: 1930

RE: Best 'wild' Airline Interiors?

How about America West's current upholstery? That mauve, purple, blue and green concoction looks like bad airport carpet threw up on the seats. And it goes ever so well with their I-love-the-90s yellow, fuschia, and teal cabin dividers. Song's interior looks like Skittles exploded everywhere. Very b...

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by UALFAson
Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA In AUS
Replies: 8
Views: 2303

RE: UA In AUS

Wow, I didn't realize <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> had gotten so big in <acronym title="OLD: Austin - Robert Mueller Municipal (AUS / KAUS) (closed), USA - Texas AND CURRENT: Austin - Bergstrom International (AFB) (AUS / KBSM), USA - Texas">AUS</acronym>. I have a friend who's...

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by UALFAson
Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Much Lower Do They Expect?
Replies: 11
Views: 3971

RE: How Much Lower Do They Expect?

I wouldn't say that I blame <acronym title="Southwest Airlines (USA)">WN</acronym>, but I think they've conditioned the public to expect unrealistically low fares. To the non-industry junkies (i.e., not the people on A.net!), all they see is the <acronym title="Southwest Airlines (USA)">WN</acronym>...

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by UALFAson
Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Funny Cabin Annoncements
Replies: 37
Views: 5637

RE: Funny Cabin Annoncements

Do you think it matters what airline we're talking about as to how much humor the FAs can get away with? For example, it seems like anything goes with <acronym title="Southwest Airlines (USA)">WN</acronym> (seen "Airport" recently?) and humor is almost expected, but the same jokes told by <acronym t...

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by UALFAson
Mon Apr 05, 2004 4:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ever Divert In A Widebody To A Small Airport?
Replies: 27
Views: 4984

RE: Ever Divert In A Widebody To A Small Airport?

Thought the <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> flight had to land at <acronym title="Washington - Ronald Reagan National (DCA / KDCA), USA - Virginia">DCA</acronym> because of t-storms at both <acronym title="Washington - Dulles International (IAD / KIAD), USA - Virginia">IAD</acron...

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by UALFAson
Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: HP's First Class
Replies: 17
Views: 2460

RE: HP's First Class

Yeah, where are you going? That will make a huge difference. I just flew <acronym title="America West Airlines (USA)">HP</acronym> for the first time myself, <acronym title="Los Angeles - International (LAX / KLAX), USA - California">LAX</acronym>-<acronym title="Phoenix - Sky Harbor International (...

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by UALFAson
Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Routes: Atlanta Versus Cincinnati
Replies: 17
Views: 3008

RE: Delta Routes: Atlanta Versus Cincinnati

"I'd forfeit seeing <acronym title="Covington / Cincinnati - Northern Kentucky International (Greater Cincinnati) (CVG / KCVG), USA - Kentucky">CVG</acronym> at all" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! This is me, ROTFL.  <img src="/discussions/graphics/giggles.gif" ALT="Laugh out loud"> Don't worry, Aloh...

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by UALFAson
Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ever Divert In A Widebody To A Small Airport?
Replies: 27
Views: 4984

RE: Ever Divert In A Widebody To A Small Airport?

I wasn't on it, but I remember a few years ago a <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> DC-10 was forced to land at <acronym title="Washington - Ronald Reagan National (DCA / KDCA), USA - Virginia">DCA</acronym> after it couldn't at <acronym title="Washington - Dulles International (IAD...

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by UALFAson
Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Routes: Atlanta Versus Cincinnati
Replies: 17
Views: 3008

RE: Delta Routes: Atlanta Versus Cincinnati

As a somewhat <acronym title="Tower Air (USA)">FF</acronym> on Delta, here are my 2 cents: <acronym title="Covington / Cincinnati - Northern Kentucky International (Greater Cincinnati) (CVG / KCVG), USA - Kentucky">CVG</acronym> is great for quick, easy and painless connections, but miserable if you...

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by UALFAson
Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: More Service To The Caribbean
Replies: 16
Views: 4036

RE: More Service To The Caribbean

I would think that one of the problems preventing widespread LCC expansion in the Caribbean is the relatively high cost of the area. With the exception of Puerto Rico and Cancun, which have become pretty commercialized (i.e. Americanized), aren't most other islands fairly expensive, especially durin...

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by UALFAson
Mon Apr 05, 2004 6:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flight Numbers......?
Replies: 13
Views: 2420

RE: Flight Numbers......?

UA & <acronym title="American Airlines (USA)">AA</acronym> retired the 4 flight numbers from 9/11--UA 175, <acronym title="American Airlines (USA)">AA</acronym> 11, <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> 93, and <acronym title="American Airlines (USA)">AA</acronym> 77. That's pretty sta...

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by UALFAson
Sun Apr 04, 2004 4:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: No D.C. Flight Slots For Aloha Airlines
Replies: 13
Views: 4043

RE: No D.C. Flight Slots For Aloha Airlines

Thanks for your comments, Aloha73g. Things I wouldn't have thought about... FWIW, Hawaii is my favorite place in the whole world. I was in <acronym title="Honolulu - International / Hickam AFB (HNL / HIK / PHNL / PHIK), USA - Hawaii">HNL</acronym> in Oct. and hope to get to <acronym title="Kahului (...

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by UALFAson
Sun Apr 04, 2004 4:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flight Numbers......?
Replies: 13
Views: 2420

RE: Flight Numbers......?

I think most, if not all, airlines usually give flight #s 001 and 002 to their flagship services or premier routes (UA's round-the-world service, <acronym title="Alaska Airlines (USA)">AS</acronym> <acronym title="Washington - Ronald Reagan National (DCA / KDCA), USA - Virginia">DCA</acronym>-<acron...

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by UALFAson
Sun Apr 04, 2004 2:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: No D.C. Flight Slots For Aloha Airlines
Replies: 13
Views: 4043

RE: No D.C. Flight Slots For Aloha Airlines

While I'm surprised at some of the gov't's selections, I have to agree with Worldperks and people in other related forums: <acronym title="Aloha Airlines (USA)">AQ</acronym>'s <acronym title="Washington - Ronald Reagan National (DCA / KDCA), USA - Virginia">DCA</acronym> application was as much, if ...

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by UALFAson
Sun Apr 04, 2004 2:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Great / Profitable US Cities For International
Replies: 7
Views: 3364

RE: Great / Profitable US Cities For International

No one has mentioned <acronym title="Washington - Dulles International (IAD / KIAD), USA - Virginia">IAD</acronym>. Despite the fact Indy Air wants to make it a domestic low-fare hub, I bet int'l airlines make money hand over fist serving Dulles and the city of Washington. Just look at how many fore...

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by UALFAson
Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Burbank Update?
Replies: 2
Views: 1636

RE: Burbank Update?

Short of the airport being re-named for Bob Hope, not much new at good ole <acronym title="Burbank / Glendale / Pasadena (Lockheed Air Terminal) (BUR / KBUR), USA - California">BUR</acronym> that I've heard or read. Don't hold your breath on the new terminal anytime soon. The problem is that local y...

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by UALFAson
Tue Mar 30, 2004 12:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: VDB Compensation...get Real
Replies: 4
Views: 2219

VDB Compensation...get Real

Was wondering what the rationale behind <acronym title="Fagernes -Leirin (VDB), Norway">VDB</acronym> compensation was and if there's a method to the madness? For example, yesterday I flew <acronym title="America West Airlines (USA)">HP</acronym> <acronym title="Dallas / Fort Worth - International (...

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by UALFAson
Tue Mar 23, 2004 9:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Show Your Love For Delta's #2 Colors!
Replies: 26
Views: 4166

RE: Show Your Love For Delta's #2 Colors!

I'm not so crazy about #2's tail, but I have to say it's MUCH better than the current design. I like that it says "Delta AIR LINES" on the fuselage and has a cheatline. I agree with Ual747den--the current livery is too generic. (Save your comments about UAL's new colors, please.) BTW, the other day ...

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by UALFAson
Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UAL Info
Replies: 6
Views: 1788

RE: UAL Info

Sorry for the deluge...I think we all wrote replies at the same time!

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by UALFAson
Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UAL Info
Replies: 6
Views: 1788

RE: UAL Info

Most media organizations, as well as <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> themselves, refer to United as the world's second-largest airline. My guess is this is based on revenue passenger miles, or the number of passengers flown times the number of miles they flew. I couldn't find the...

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by UALFAson
Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Will HP Do On Their New LAX Routes.
Replies: 13
Views: 5133

RE: How Will HP Do On Their New LAX Routes.

Speaking of <acronym title="America West Airlines (USA)">HP</acronym> at <acronym title="Los Angeles - International (LAX / KLAX), USA - California">LAX</acronym>... I know they're in the same terminal as <acronym title="Southwest Airlines (USA)">WN</acronym>. Do they use the same security checkpoin...

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by UALFAson
Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Possible To Book Tickets On Overbooked Flights?
Replies: 9
Views: 6299

RE: Possible To Book Tickets On Overbooked Flights?

I think it depends on how overbooked the flight is. If it's just oversold by a few seats, they may keep selling tickets figuring they'll still have more no-shows, misconnects, etc. But they do stop selling seats at some point. I've noticed that some flights that are WAY oversold stop being available...

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