Possibly to avoid flying through the TFR over the fire.
Jump to postThe Mexico flights arrive into a building with FIS capability down by the old Terminal 1. The plane is then moved to Terminal 2 for boarding and departure. (AM uses gate 204 and Y4 uses gate 207.) CI's 777 would potentially carry too many people for them to use the current building efficiently, plu...
Jump to postPeople do realize that is a result of service decisions made by airlines, not LAWA, right? Try again, I said LAX not LAWA. I'm not talking about ANY airport operating entity. I guess I don’t understand what you’re talking about then. I meant LAX Fan boys, sorry its been a long day for me and my fam...
Jump to postjetero wrote:FX1816 wrote:mariner wrote:
Air travel is only for the well-to-do?
mariner
In the world of LAX can/will be the ONLY option in SoCal.
People do realize that is a result of service decisions made by airlines, not LAWA, right?
mariner wrote:LAXintl wrote:Obviously, per-capita income has a correlation with spending power and the propensity of travel by consumers.
Air travel is only for the well-to-do?
mariner
Will this require any modifications to CBP or the apron and gate arrangements at ONT? Where to the Mexico flights usually park at ONT? The Mexico flights arrive into a building with FIS capability down by the old Terminal 1. The plane is then moved to Terminal 2 for boarding and departure. (AM uses...
Jump to postAt ONT we are hearing rumors that we will be up to 9 Amazon flights a day by November, anyone else hear that? It's nice to have a 6th flight, the ONT-ABE-ONT route by ATN. It was so cool to see 6 aircraft, from the tower, sitting at the old terminal!
Jump to postBizarre amount of ONT-bashing in this thread. You don't have to fly there, it isn't a law, but why dump on the airport for advertising itself? I haven't flown into ONT in a while, but I remember it as a decent airport and preferable to LGB. mariner Yes it is very surprising. This airport is great f...
Jump to postPersonally, I think they made a fatal mistake of not including a reference to either Los Angeles or Southern California in the branding. This is the opposite path Burbank recently took which discovered many outside of SoCal had no clue where to the airport was and decided to incorporate "Holly...
Jump to postMy question now that Orange County SNA market/Economy has fully recovered would it be wise for UA to resume SNA-HNL service. The rich OC people love there airport and hate LAX. Even with westbound weight restrictions they could probably make money in this economy. Sadly, it probably won't happen. I...
Jump to postCitrusCritter wrote:From a purely international perspective for airlines, LA does as well with LAX, SNA, and ONT. The latter two have limited intl flights to Canada and/or Mexico.
Junction wrote:FX1816 wrote:I guess United is a sponsor.
United has been a sponsor of the United States Olympic Committee for more than 35 years.
The rumor I hear is that they are shooting a commercial for the Olympics. I guess United is a sponsor. I don't know which Olympics. Before anyone jumps on me I work at the tower and this what we've heard. It was mentioned upthread that an Instagram user was posting the filming of the commercial. Ch...
Jump to postThe rumor I hear is that they are shooting a commercial for the Olympics. I guess United is a sponsor. I don't know which Olympics. Before anyone jumps on me I work at the tower and this what we've heard.
Jump to postDo we know what routes these QR airplanes are going to be running? I will be flying LHR-CDG on July 20th and back CDG-LHR on Aug 3rd. I'd love to have a chance to ride on one of the QR A320s.
Jump to postI think you saw a -700 Yes you're right. From a distance it is hard to tell sometimes (even if the 300 is longer). The -700 is longer by about 9",basically nothing. Best way to tell the difference between a WN -300 And -700 are the colored flap canards and hub caps found on the -700. Actually ...
Jump to post. Those tourists willing to fly tjhis far to the US for gambling are unlikely to be satisified by those facilities available near ONT. You should probably tell that to the various buses I see at some of the local casinos along with the outlet malls between ONT and LAS. I know this from driving to a...
Jump to postNow as I mentioned prior, ONT should be able to excel in the area of cargo, especially as the IE grows in importance as a regional distribution hub for growing number of enterprises and as other logistics modes grow as well in the region. I absolutely agree with you on this subject and that is what...
Jump to postI do like the idea of international charter using ont. tour groups flights would be better served using Ont. :bigthumbsup: Yes, I have believe that you are right about this. Regularly scheduled service is really a pipe dream but hey who knows. I'm just glad to see the traffic pick up here slowly as...
Jump to postDelta and Continental wanted something smaller than a 777-200 / A330-300 and larger than a 767-300ER, but generally didn't need the range of the A330-200 so the 767-400ER appealed to them (both were large 767 family operators already) and both ended up being the only customers for the type. Contine...
Jump to postDamn, I could've swore the pilot on the ONT-ATL flight told me the planes were going to be retired in a few months from that point...maybe he meant THAT plane (N103DL)? I miss seeing the 762's...I always liked them over any other 76 variant FYI, N103DL is the one that almost went into the Pacific o...
Jump to postThe 762's were long gone by the time the merger took place. The merger was 2008, he 762s were gone by early to 05 I flew the 762 ATL-SLC and ONT-ATL in Feb and Mar of '05...they were retired around May-June. Just a little bit after May-June. I was in ATL in July and September of 2005 and they were ...
Jump to postI'm mostly a lurker, be gentile... :) One of the drawbacks to having an iconic naming scheme like 7x7 is that you can only have ten models. When Boeing acquired McDonnell Douglas and rebranded the MD-95 as 717, they "burned" one of these designations. I'm sure there were many factors at p...
Jump to postWe have the winglet equipped 767 for Atlas here today at ONT, it looks great. Pretty cool to see 4 planes over at the old terminal with 3 of them being painted in Prime Air colors.
Jump to postDL does NOT keep trying ONT-ATL, I've been back, working at the tower, since November 2014 and there have been NO Delta to ATL flights out of ONT since then. My grasp of Delta's history on ONT-ATL exceeds 2 1/2 years. Yours could, too, with effort. So does mine in fact all the way back to 1985. Del...
Jump to postAs whatusaid mentioned above, FAT has a new incentive program for both new and existing routes. Replacing a frequency on a current route with a jet seating 107 passengers or more qualifies for 1 year of landing fee waivers. What is interesting is the additional frequencies on UAX above the current ...
Jump to postwjcandee wrote:With that flight number, it's a covering flight, but we will have to see if it continues. ONT-CVG is going to go to a 763, but unclear if there will be a second round trip as there is now.
So this morning I had the usual flight from ONT-ILN leave a little after 2 am local, only difference was that it was NOT ABX3102 B762 but ATN3202 B763. Is this going to be a permanent change or was it just a one off sub. I was a little shocked to have ATN call me around 2 am for their clearance to I...
Jump to postSeems like overkill for Volaris since they and AMX already fly to GDL from ONT.
Jump to postRunway runway runway. Same reason why BUR has not been able to sustain a Hawaii flight. When AQ tried BUR, on near daily basis they were leaving baggage behind. I Actually, ONT would be the better choice in some ways to fly to Hawaii than SNA especially given it's longer runway. It's not that far f...
Jump to postJust another example to show a new building does not bring in new service. Airlines really don't care about facilities at spoke locations (unless its so bad it inter-fears with service) The new terminals usually do the opposite as expenses and costs go way up then you deter airlines. Bakersfield, S...
Jump to postThey are shooting for a TV show, Speechless on ABC. The airport 727 is parked at gate 212 also.
Jump to posthttp://www.airbus.com/company/market/orders-deliveries/ 20/80 A318 produced were for VIP transport. That likely, as was previously stated, you best bet. If you get the chance to head to Europe, your chances increase exponentially. TAROM, BA, and AF. I think the BA JFK-LCY must be a dream! Just to b...
Jump to postThanks for the replies. BUT...... I'm very confused. Maybe someone can untangle this for me. On the Wikipedia page for ASL Ireland they say: "The company announced on 5 February 2016 that it had agreed to buy TNT Airways and PAN Air, on the condition that FedEx's purchase of TNT goes ahead. Th...
Jump to postThe Amazon flights out of ONT (ABX, ATI & GTI) tend to get airborne between 5500 and 6500 down either runway 26L/8R (12200) or 26R/8L (10200). Now I don't know how the loads look though. It also depends on what type of reduced takeoff power (FLEX) is used; in the past we rotated (A300) at about...
Jump to postThe amount of space will easily be ample to sort, have a mx area, and enough stands for the 40 frames currently coming let alone more (maybe not 100, that seems a bit steep IMO). It doesn't look like there is much space to lengthen 18R/36L, possibly 200-500ft on the north end. Of course you could e...
Jump to postSo ILN is going to lose again? I know that ATSG maintenance is still there but the existing former Airborne/DHL sorting facilities could have been useable.
Jump to postB6 has only so many slots. Each international flight you add, one domestic would leave. Its worth more for local residents to have the frequent domestic destinations, maybe is the lines of thinking? LGB is such a cool awesome airport, I think B6 is doing quite well there now. They have a niche. Jet...
Jump to postWhat gives the Federal Government (FAA) the power to deny the people the right to close their airport and use their land for some other purpose? I need help in understanding this. Maybe there are valid reasons. FAA's primary arguments was that any airport which receives grant funding must remain op...
Jump to postDefinitely sounds like more trouble than it's worth to swap tails from ABX to ATI. I have noticed N255CM still shows signs of the Cargo Jet colors, it has been running to ONT quite a bit lately.
Jump to postThere are two ABX 767's still flying in DHL colors, like Acey said one is N769AX but I didn't catch the tail number of the other. Both came in to ONT on Thursday as ABX3125 and ABX3101. They both arrived just before I left the tower.
Jump to postThe DC-9 went on to become extremely popular with freight airlines like USA jet. It was? I've never seen any. Wasn't USA Jet one of the only major customers? How many were converted? Some of the freighters weren't converted from pax a/c. They were offered in native F and CF from the factory. Airbor...
Jump to postHonestly I'd like to see B6 just pull all the way out of LGB. LGB can pound sand. I'd be happy to see a couple more BUR flights instead. I don't know if WN can earn enough at LGB, if they can then they can take over, otherwise LGB becomes another Ontario and the residents can have their quiet and t...
Jump to postBack in the mid 90s before the new terminals were built WN was up to 70 plus flights using trailers as boarding gates now they are down to about 30 flights a day still touting ONT as a PSP gateway (IMHO WN should just serve PSP and stop with this ONT non-sense.) You could go non-stop to ORD on AA a...
Jump to postBack in the mid 90s before the new terminals were built WN was up to 70 plus flights using trailers as boarding gates now they are down to about 30 flights a day still touting ONT as a PSP gateway (IMHO WN should just serve PSP and stop with this ONT non-sense.) You could go non-stop to ORD on AA a...
Jump to postThey have never stopped using FedEx and UPS. ATI, ABX and Atlas are also used. More pilot union drivel after they got their butts kicked in court. I'm pretty sure all of the Amazon Prime Air planes are operated by Atlas Air actually. No they are not, N1997A is the only aircraft that Atlas is operat...
Jump to postThough, wouldn't be the first time Amazon was accused of such working practices. Amazon doesn't employ these guys. All it does is contract for the airlines to fly routes. Either the airlines can staff the jets or they can't. Atlas, whose pilot was quoted as complaining about how tired he is, flies ...
Jump to postHilarious: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-16/pilots-who-fly-amazon-planes-suggest-company-might-not-deliver Guess the 1224 pilots want all the Amazon flying to go to other carriers. Really trying to kill the goose that laid the golden egg? These guys are idiots, the only people the...
Jump to postSo ABX3126 departed ONT tonight to RFD. Where it goes beyond that I don't know but it is pretty nice to see 4 airplanes back at the old terminal again, 2 ABX, 1 ATI and 1 GTI. So where are all the anti-labor types now? The union struck, got the issues fixed they wanted fixed and now everything conti...
Jump to postWell just had ABX3391 show up ILN-ONT this morning and parked at the old terminal with the Amazon operation. ABX is out of the penalty box now?
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