Cultural and geographic. Brit's holding passport: 75% Canadians holding passport: 60% Americans holding passport: 36% The geography is important both on the point about "cultural issues" and on the larger question in the thread, I think. Consider this statistic: Brits who need a passport ...
Jump to postI don't have specific dates for everything, but on May 3, 2002, SWAPA signed the Side-Letter with SWA outlining the -200 drawdown and I know it was implemented very shortly (possibly the next month) afterwards. I believe we were down to 50 -200's then and they were sequestered to the DAL/HOU domici...
Jump to postThe only 2 ABX 767's we had at ONT were both white tails. One was all white and the other had the ABX Air titles on the fuselage with the small stripes.
Jump to postWALmsp wrote:FX1816 wrote:SRT75 wrote:So where do FedEx and the cargo operators go?
FedEx is moving to ONT.
Why would these new terminals affect cargo carriers? Their ops are on the south side of the runways, way from all the construction.
Ezra wrote:Does Terminal 0 mean that In-n-Out would have to close?
SRT75 wrote:So where do FedEx and the cargo operators go?
So very sad. I saw the plane take off as I was near Knott's Berry Farm at the time.
Jump to postHappy New Year to all. I look forward to all the growth with Amazon and I'll do my best to keep you all up to date on the happenings at ONT.
Jump to postThere's been an Asia Pacific Airlines 757 doing flights for UPS between ONT and PDX on and off since last week. I missed it by a couple minutes this morning; anyone know if it's going to be doing any flying tomorrow or Friday? It also flies between ONT and BFI, it just left. It should be here at ON...
Jump to postAtl-ont seems like something to try the a220 on That would be a serious downgrade from the 737-900's that will do the eventual twice daily runs. based on their previous exit on this route and other factors I would argue the 739 is too much airplane and the A220 might work better. The 757's and 767'...
Jump to postmicstatic wrote:Atl-ont seems like something to try the a220 on
Is this Delta's only route that doesn't involve a hub or focus city? No, there are countless others: DCA-LEX/MSN/OMA/MIA LAS-SJC/ONT CUN-BWI/CMH/BDL/IND/MCI/MKE/BNA/MSY/PIT/TPA CMH-MIA There are more that I am missing, plus, there is all the MCO stuff, which technically isn't a focus city Delta doe...
Jump to postDoes Amazon Prime have a hub in ONT? I saw about a dozen when I was there. No, only CVG is considered a hub, but ONT is a very big outstation. About half of the network is running point-to-point, while the other half is hub ops through CVG. It remains to be seen how the PTP operation will be affect...
Jump to postRe: Moving to March ARB Very interesting. Amazon was certainly developing a large presence at ONT; too bad it all couldn't fit right now. RIV is only 20 minutes away by car, and certainly has the airport infrastructure (runways 13,300 by 200 feet) to handle the business. The question is whether Ama...
Jump to postKICT wrote:Speaking of ONT, the CI 77W flight uses airstairs...
Used airstairs for a 767 on DEN-LGB in 1986 AA flew a DC-10 to ONT during the late 90's for a short period, prior to the new terminals opening and it was a stairway. Also, I believe HA flew a DC-10 as well in the 90's. Matt I think HA was a L1011 In 1993/94 HA was running an L1011 but from 2002-200...
Jump to postIt was the RR Tay engine, which was a solution available only for the -100 series. That was fine because that's the only 727 version that UPS ever flew. Not exactly, http://www.airliners.net/photo/United-Parcel-Service-UPS/Boeing-727-247-Adv-F/1476264?qsp=eJwtjEEOgzAMBP/iMxeaUiFu5QPtoR%2BwHBcipRDZP...
Jump to postthere was a mod with the ROLLS BR715 that UPS did on some B727-200 airplanes if I recall correctly. It was the RR Tay engine, which was a solution available only for the -100 series. That was fine because that's the only 727 version that UPS ever flew. Not exactly, http://www.airliners.net/photo/Un...
Jump to postThe flight should be nighttime to allow for more connections to MNL, SGN, etc. Operating it during the daytime was a mistake. Does a heavy wide body takeoff count towards the night restrictions at ONT? On the airport website says no high power engine maintenance runs after 10 pm. I highly doubt tha...
Jump to postWow so cool! By far my favorite and the sexiest 737 in my opinion. Does anyone know the stats on how many 732’s are still active today for pax ops? Canadian North, Air Inuit, Nolinor, Air North, I assume a few other northern Canada airlines. You will also find a few down in Mexico, the Bahamas and ...
Jump to postSF traffic is no joke. The worst drivers on the planet. Crazy that these 2 airports had flights between them though that's like flying ORD-MDW or JFK-EWR. On a side note didn't B6 (a few years back) fly between LAX and ONT to avoid traffic for locals looking to hit the beach for the day? Nope, JetB...
Jump to post**2nd frequency BUR-JFK Flt#2358 Dep 11:41 Arr 20:05 **New-BUR-BOS FLT#2338 Dep 20:08 Arr 04:40 **New-ONT-JFK FLT#354 Dep 23:59 Arr 08:24 Rumors of LGB reduction and elimination of most west coast-West coast markets. I’m not seeing it. seeing 34 daily total some modest increases in some markets. LG...
Jump to postFor L1011, Stargazer ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargazer_(aircraft) ) apparently is still in ONT and might meet the "one single flying example left in existence" test. Nope, I made sure I cleared N140SC for take off and it left ONT two weeks ago for MHV. I was quite happy to get to ...
Jump to postVC10’s are gone. RAF retired them a few years ago. Would also add L1011 (all variants) and 737-100 For L1011, Stargazer ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargazer_(aircraft) ) apparently is still in ONT and might meet the "one single flying example left in existence" test. Nope, I made sur...
Jump to postMAH4546 wrote:To replace China Airlines? I heard it's doing horribly and they are out in October.
It looks like ONT has a separate International Arrivals Building that has no jetbridges. Are they going to process a 77W full of people in there using stairs or are there plans to move FIS to the terminal complex? Is there a 77W-capable gate at ONT? You know what, LAX did the same thing that many a...
Jump to postLater this year FedEx is breaking ground on a new sorting facility at ONT. It will be on the northwest side with parking for 14 aircraft, 14 feeder caravans and 4 ATR aircraft. Is this to replace their LAX hub, or to supplement it? Yeah, that's a good question. SEA is one of the busiest FX ramps in...
Jump to postLonger term, however, I'd expect FX to close it and move work to lower cost location. If the idea is to stay in the general area I think ONT is a no-brainer, but that's way down the road and that's also a huge capital expenditure we are talking about. Later this year FedEx is breaking ground on a n...
Jump to postYeah, if Ontario (ONT) can get service to Taipei (TPE), I think AUS should have service to NRT and ICN. With that being said, KE recently ended ICN-IAH, so the likelihood of a ICN route from AUS is lower to that degree... Is there a large Asian population in the Austin area to justify the Asian ser...
Jump to postSo any news of how its all working out, as it started Mar 25. Any issues with customs/immigration etc. Anyone working there notice if they are loading lots of cargo? No real issues so far. They arrive on time or early and then deplane at the international arrivals building. They then reposition to ...
Jump to postIs there a change to PVD because we have a flight, GTI3553 ONT-PVD. Now last night I taxied them out and they stopped and sat on TWY N for almost an hour and I thought it was a mechanical issue but they crew told me that there was something going and the CAT III ILS would not be available to them s...
Jump to postNow that I think of it, the ONT-PVD typically arrives before the tower opens at 0530. Maybe that's why the CAT III ILS wasn't available to them. But with the delay at ONT they would have arrived after the tower opened. That is what I thought they might have meant that the tower wouldn't be staffed ...
Jump to postI will be in Sint Maarten and Anguilla during the first week of August and am really curious to see how it is doing and how much will be done between now and then.
Jump to postTake a step back. Had UA and CO not gotten together, what would have happened? I don't think UA would be a standalone carrier today. The Tilton era UA always had a merger or acquisition as the end goal. The most likely alternative to a CO merger would have been a merger with US. In that situation, ...
Jump to post1511A has now arrived at PSM from TLV (4/4/18). We'll see when/where it goes for paint. New network is up as of today. Still some slack in the Atlas fleet -- so far at least. But it looks preliminarily like a little more utilization. We'll see as these routes play out over the next few days. Observ...
Jump to postI flew on AA in July 2005 and was on an exTW 757 SMF-DFW. I remember it having drop down TVs and only learning years later the only AA 757s that had that were the TWA ones. AA is also operating ex TW MD-80s, some of the last on the line. And doesn’t ABX air or DHL have a few 767-231Fs? You are corr...
Jump to postwjcandee wrote:ONT has really become a major network node for Amazon Air. Our friends out there must be thrilled.
Not sure why UPS flies there but it is usually UPS902 a 763 from HNL. That flight used to be an MD11 into ONT.
Jump to postWasn’t ONT a booming airport at one time? Seems like there is so much potential. What happened? (I’m just looking for a quick summary, not a debate that hijacks the thread). Pre 9/11 yes. The 2 new terminals opened in 98. I attended the soft opening at ONT where WN flew in California One for displa...
Jump to postDarkSnowyNight wrote:cschleic wrote:Too early to know when it'll be finished and depart? Could be worth a trip to ONT to see it fly.
Word at the ONT station is at least April. I'll let you know if I hear more.
TurboJet707 wrote:A wonderful aircraft! An extremely rare sight nowadays.
I believe this one is in flyable condition too (although not operated on a regular basis):
It is in the Hangar at Guardian Jet Center on the south side of the airport. The tail is still hanging out of the hangar.
Jump to postIs it possible that PHX could be a sort center for regional traffic. I know that if you send an overnight FedEx from Phoenix to Tucson it flys to Oakland than on to Tucson. Phoenix could be a great place for a West Coast sort and 2 or 3 flights to the main Sort center in CVG? I really see PHX havin...
Jump to postYes indeed it was loaded as Daily in GDS more than a month ago and as media stories picked up at the time. I have zero record of it ever being loaded in GDS as 4x weekly, matter of fact internal CI schedule supplied to LAWA with LAX flight reduction showed ONT being daily as well from start. ONT pr...
Jump to postIt looks like ONT has a separate International Arrivals Building that has no jetbridges. Are they going to process a 77W full of people in there using stairs or are there plans to move FIS to the terminal complex? Is there a 77W-capable gate at ONT? Haven't been in Terminal 2 in a little over a yea...
Jump to postYes, I have 5 or 6 of them. They are basically painted in the Alitalia livery with Air Pacific titles.
Jump to postThe landing gear on Gemini200's can be removed so they can be displayed on a stand. Some of the early 757's did not have the landing attached while in the box.
Jump to postThe market just wasn't there, especially after they started making 1/200 scale.
Jump to postI think the rule is below 10000 feet the cockpit "must be sterile", so no erm... side chatter or whatever you call it. That's only for the cockpit. I've had pilots ask questions about things in the area or just talk down to the last mile on final. This goes from cessna pilots up to 747's.
Jump to postStrange new night at ONT, we had only 5 departures, 2 GTI and 3 ATN. The 5 destinations were DFW, BWI, TPA, RFD and ABE. TPA and BWI are new for ONT but DFW again after a few months of SKF? We did not have any runs to CVG when we usually have 2 flights a day. ATN3741 SCK-ONT also did not operate. Ar...
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