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by September11
Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why has AA just kept holding onto their MD80's?
Replies: 109
Views: 17662

Re: Why has AA just kept holding onto their MD80's?

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One more time: EVERYONE will appreciate to see this AA M80 in new livery! Soon to be retired or not. Great plane build to last long.

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by September11
Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why has AA just kept holding onto their MD80's?
Replies: 109
Views: 17662

Re: Why has AA just kept holding onto their MD80's?

I just think it is little crazy AA did not put new livery on MD80s. Really? I remember when Delta had aircraft in three different liveries - widget, interim, and Deltaflot - and then less than a decade later brought out the current livery. Also, the MD80s were PMAA; since they already said AA, the ...

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by September11
Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why has AA just kept holding onto their MD80's?
Replies: 109
Views: 17662

Re: Why has AA just kept holding onto their MD80's?

2800703 Waste of money? DL's DC-9-50s in current livery didn't last long. Probably, less than a year. DL knew it. I would guess the difference here was that DL moved very quickly to harmonize the brand image to DL (eliminating the NW brand). The decision may have been different if the DC-9-50s were...

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by September11
Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why has AA just kept holding onto their MD80's?
Replies: 109
Views: 17662

Re: Why has AA just kept holding onto their MD80's?

Profits vs what you all think, profits wins. Waste of money to paint them. 2800703 Waste of money? DL's DC-9-50s in current livery didn't last long. Probably, less than a year. DL knew it. I would guess the difference here was that DL moved very quickly to harmonize the brand image to DL (eliminati...

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by September11
Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why has AA just kept holding onto their MD80's?
Replies: 109
Views: 17662

Re: Why has AA just kept holding onto their MD80's?

Boof02671 wrote:
Profits vs what you all think, profits wins.

Waste of money to paint them.




Waste of money?

DL's DC-9-50s in current livery didn't last long. Probably, less than a year. DL knew it.

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by September11
Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why has AA just kept holding onto their MD80's?
Replies: 109
Views: 17662

Re: Why has AA just kept holding onto their MD80's?

I just think it is little crazy AA did not put new livery on MD80s. Really? I remember when Delta had aircraft in three different liveries - widget, interim, and Deltaflot - and then less than a decade later brought out the current livery. Delta's situation was a harder one. I don't see a DL M80 in...

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by September11
Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Burbank Airport Aviation Thread - 2018/2019
Replies: 218
Views: 29879

Re: Burbank Airport on a roll in 2018!

AA BUR-DFW is back? Yay! I flew DFW-BUR on AA M80 few weeks before route suddenly ended. Full flight.

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by September11
Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why has AA just kept holding onto their MD80's?
Replies: 109
Views: 17662

Re: Why has AA just kept holding onto their MD80's?

doulasc wrote:
September11 wrote:
I just think it is little crazy AA did not put new livery on MD80s.
I wish AA would have done just a few MD-80s in the new paint job.


Me, too. New livery on younger ten M80s would be practical.

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by September11
Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why has AA just kept holding onto their MD80's?
Replies: 109
Views: 17662

Re: Why has AA just kept holding onto their MD80's?

I think it’s not. Why spend money on something that will be retired? It’s about dollars and cents, not that you or anyone likes a particular fleet type. Marketing matters. My rule: Not planning to retire an aircraft within 6 months? Put a new livery on it. Old livery on an aircraft for 5 years is b...

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by September11
Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why has AA just kept holding onto their MD80's?
Replies: 109
Views: 17662

Re: Why has AA just kept holding onto their MD80's?

I just think it is little crazy AA did not put new livery on MD80s.

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by September11
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA MadDog rumor du jour:
Replies: 49
Views: 14155

Re: AA MadDog rumor du jour:

My longest flight on AA M80: ORD-SFO / SFO-ORD

I doubt all of remaining AA M80s will be retired before 2019

I expect at least 10 AA M80s to remain in service until 2020

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by September11
Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EWR prior to UA and CO merger
Replies: 48
Views: 5491

Re: EWR prior to UA and CO merger

EWR was originally a relieve airport for LGA and JFK?

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by September11
Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue New Special Livery
Replies: 18
Views: 2526

Re: JetBlue New Special Livery

I don't recall seeing a NHL team logo on a regular passenger jetliner.

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by September11
Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 10 yrs since DELTA & NORTHWEST merge!
Replies: 134
Views: 13574

Re: 10 yrs since DELTA & NORTHWEST merge!

Few years before the NW-DLmerger, both filed for bankruptcy on the same day.

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by September11
Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did AA Dehub SJC?
Replies: 43
Views: 7762

Re: Why did AA Dehub SJC?

SJC can't be a hub

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by September11
Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 613983

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Hello all, Looking at the footage from the tug boat, it looks like the plane went in hard, with bits and appeared to be a shredded slide/raft. Condolences to the family and friends of the people lost. One thing that got me fried was somebody released a partial pax list on twitter, before relatives ...

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by September11
Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA 737 Max hit by Fuel Truck at LGA
Replies: 11
Views: 9184

Re: AA 737 Max hit by Fuel Truck at LGA

NTSB will investigate this incident

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by September11
Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Fleet Updates - 2018
Replies: 764
Views: 135672

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

The S80s seem to be completely confined to DFW in the January schedule. The three ORD flights (MSP, STL, RDU) are gone. They still show up in later schedules, but I'm guessing those aren't finalized yet and the S80s will probably stay put in DFW for the duration of their existence in the AA fleet. ...

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by September11
Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Wasn't the Boeing 727 The Boeing 717?
Replies: 33
Views: 9709

Re: Why Wasn't the Boeing 727 The Boeing 717?

Don't forget the 720

First MD-83 was built in 1999

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by September11
Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AR1303 MIA-EZE hits severe turbulence, 10-15 hurt
Replies: 34
Views: 7773

Re: AR1303 MIA-EZE hits severe turbulence, 10-15 hurt

Those pictures... Just wow

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by September11
Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:36 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: TWA L1011 service from PHL-STL
Replies: 15
Views: 3121

Re: TWA L1011 service from PHL-STL

Flew on TW 762 CMH-STL and STL-CMH

I remember TW L10 next to my gate in STL departing for PHL


I believe TW L10s were placed in PHL for LHR flights

Love those TW L10s!

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by September11
Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:52 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: JFK TWA Terminal to turn into a hotel
Replies: 87
Views: 9566

Re: TWA Hotel @ JFK

I guess, welcome back TWA.

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by September11
Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Interior pics of Delta's first A220-100
Replies: 85
Views: 21772

Re: Interior pics of Delta's first A220-100

I do agree it looks like a DC-9. I would love to fly on it one day.

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by September11
Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UAX EWR route cuts: Which are next?
Replies: 46
Views: 7575

Re: UAX EWR route cuts: Which are next?

janders wrote:
Eventually all will either be cut or transition to mainline.
UA has stated they plan to make EWR all mainline operation.


Do I smell EWR-CMH mainline?

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by September11
Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why no commercial jets airlines build with wing on the top?
Replies: 77
Views: 15510

Re: Why no commercial jets airlines build with wing on the top?

Jet bridges could be a problem...

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by September11
Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First plane painted in Sun Country’s new livery
Replies: 75
Views: 17281

Re: First plane painted in Sun Country’s new livery

They're bringing white back? Anyone remember their white livery?

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by September11
Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Tran: What would it be like today?
Replies: 55
Views: 7785

Re: Air Tran: What would it be like today?

Let's not forget: Eastern > ValuJet > AirTran

Eastern now has several 763s...

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by September11
Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Announces PHL-MLB
Replies: 18
Views: 3538

Re: AA Announces PHL-MLB

EA flew MLB-DAB, DAB-MLB (nonstop, daily) -- on a mainline

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by September11
Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific aircraft repainted with wrong titles
Replies: 70
Views: 16097

Re: Cathay Pacific aircraft repainted with wrong titles

No braille on fuselage?

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by September11
Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:03 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Do any airlines still offer free playing cards to passengers?
Replies: 24
Views: 4773

Re: Do any airlines still offer free playing cards to passengers?

Playing cards help passengers calm down? This reminds me of inflight library. People, Time, U.S. News, etc. magazines (with clear plastic covers) were offered by flight attendants -- for onboard use only.

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by September11
Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How much did aviation really change after 9/11?
Replies: 95
Views: 9963

Re: How much did aviation really change after 9/11?

September 11th Security Fee read and imposed on all tickets sold.

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by September11
Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How much did aviation really change after 9/11?
Replies: 95
Views: 9963

Re: How much did aviation really change after 9/11?

Curtains and bulkheads onboard aren't the same anymore. Galley curtains are gone. Too many eyes today.

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by September11
Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:27 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: 3 New routes for UA
Replies: 50
Views: 5614

Re: 3 New routes for UA

First few posts belong in Poll forum. The rest of posts belong in Civil forum AND Site forum.

UA rules EWR & SFO

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by September11
Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:24 pm
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Do you think airline company management post here for ideas?
Replies: 34
Views: 4001

Re: Do you think airline company management post here for ideas?

Airliners.net is not a tool of any kind for airline company management, only for your education and entertainment. Aircraft/airport photos are #1 priority here.

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by September11
Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's refusal to look at PSP
Replies: 52
Views: 7069

Re: WN's refusal to look at PSP

PSP has 8 "mainline" gates and 8 "regional" gates

2 terminals, 16 gates

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by September11
Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's refusal to look at PSP
Replies: 52
Views: 7069

Re: WN's refusal to look at PSP

platinumfoota wrote:
Could there possibly be a market for PSP-LAS? And wow didn't know United served PSP from most hubs


I think HP flew PSP-LAS. America West Express.... I'm out

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by September11
Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's refusal to look at PSP
Replies: 52
Views: 7069

Re: WN's refusal to look at PSP

I boarded a Southwest flight last week and picked up their inflight magazine. As usual, somewhere near the end of magazine portrays a map of cities they currently serve. "Get to PSP via ONT" is indicated on the map. Still, for years now. Maybe 10 years. I didn't forget TWA used to fly STL-...

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by September11
Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's refusal to look at PSP
Replies: 52
Views: 7069

Re: WN's refusal to look at PSP

jetero wrote:
September11 wrote:
I believe landing fee as well as enplaning/deplaning per passenger fee in PSP is rather expensive.


You believe wrong.


Or little higher than other airports of same size?

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by September11
Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's refusal to look at PSP
Replies: 52
Views: 7069

Re: WN's refusal to look at PSP

Spirit does not serve PSP. If they do, Southwest may join PSP? AirTran did not serve PSP.

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by September11
Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's refusal to look at PSP
Replies: 52
Views: 7069

Re: WN's refusal to look at PSP

I believe landing fee as well as enplaning/deplaning per passenger fee in PSP is rather expensive.

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by September11
Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:51 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: I'm surprised I never landed at...
Replies: 36
Views: 2123

Re: I'm surprised I never landed at...

I am surprised I have yet landed at LHR...

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by September11
Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Man in underwear climbs onto a DL plane wing at Atlanta
Replies: 68
Views: 10874

Re: Man in underwear climbs onto a DL plane wing at Atlanta

What, am I reading this story correctly? On side note, this man is in excellent physical shape! Must have played some basketball.

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by September11
Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:16 am
Forum: Site Related
Topic: How to remove photo from album
Replies: 17
Views: 15850

Re: How to remove photo from album

Alphazone, think like it's a new rule - an album cannot be deleted or edited

Sorry, your album is "grandfathered" for the time being

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by September11
Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:11 am
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Delete Photo Album
Replies: 4
Views: 1560

Re: Delete Photo Album

I have over 300 albums... Some I would like to be deleted today. I wouldn't bother asking to delete them. Waiting till I can! Keep checking.

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by September11
Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:56 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: First Flight and Airline?
Replies: 98
Views: 3859

Re: First Flight and Airline?

My first flight/airline... TWA 727-200.



CMH-STL, Fall 1980. 5 years old.

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by September11
Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:39 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Poll: Full Yellow Livery (Spirit)
Replies: 10
Views: 684

Poll: Full Yellow Livery (Spirit)

All, What do you think of Spirit's yellow livery? Just asking, because, today I spotted a yellow plane some 20,000 feet above ground and proclaimed "That's Spirit!" 5056355 Yellow is amazing, eye-catching color. It seems everyone is now turning their attention to Spirit. Clever business of...

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by September11
Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Spirit Passenger irate after medical diversion
Replies: 17
Views: 5464

Re: Spirit Passenger irate after medical diversion

Full flight, it appears

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by September11
Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Help identify L1011
Replies: 6
Views: 1170

Re: Help identify L1011

Possibly one of those 40 ex-EA L-1011s

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