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by airfrnt
Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Denver expansion continues - 26 new gates
Replies: 71
Views: 9730

Re: Denver expansion continues - 26 new gates

Would anyone happen to know when DEN plans to build Concourses D and E? Kim Day (CEO of the airport) said recently that this expansion takes them within spitting distance of A,B and C being "fully telescoped out." That said, there is plenty of room to optimize, especially in B concourse, ...

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by airfrnt
Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Denver expansion continues - 26 new gates
Replies: 71
Views: 9730

Denver expansion continues - 26 new gates

From http://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/01/denver-international-airport-expansion-manager-contract-45-million/ The airport announced the Great Hall project to revamp the main terminal about a month ago. This morning they announced plans to expand each of the concourses out. 10 additional gates on A (...

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by airfrnt
Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN Great Hall Project Update
Replies: 168
Views: 15947

Re: DEN Great Hall Project Update

Will an underground walkway to concourses B and C ever be added at DEN? Not unless they redo the entire baggage system to go back to the fully automated system and re-use the over-head transit system for bags to free up the two tunnels that now run bags. In the long run. it won't happen. First the ...

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by airfrnt
Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN Great Hall Project Update
Replies: 168
Views: 15947

Re: DEN Great Hall Project Update

Not sure how expanding the terminal to the south would help to solve any of the issues they are trying to solve with this design. This design seems to be a reaction to the radically changed footprint proportion of security screening to ticket counter/check-in since 1995. They claim, quite credibly,...

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by airfrnt
Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN Great Hall Project Update
Replies: 168
Views: 15947

Re: DEN Great Hall Project Update

It may not be a strict either/or, but the money could be spent elsewhere (e.g., more gates). No need in this case. The rule at the airport is pretty simple - as soon as a airline commits to a new long term lease, they get additional gates, which are offset by the increase in landing fees. That appr...

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by airfrnt
Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN Great Hall Project Update
Replies: 168
Views: 15947

Re: DEN Great Hall Project Update

That money really would be better spent on the concourses where local and connecting passengers can both have better dining and retail options. That money could also be used to improve the train system which is nearing capacity, and at some parts of the day is already running over capacity. The gat...

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by airfrnt
Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United relaunches DEN-LHR
Replies: 85
Views: 14569

Re: United relaunches DEN-LHR

Explain how a company losing tons of money is a success. Seen Amazon or Telsa recently? Amazon is making profits = successful business. Tesla is not = not successful business. A business exists to make money, not be big and well known (Tesla). Should they become profitable at some pint, they will b...

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by airfrnt
Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United relaunches DEN-LHR
Replies: 85
Views: 14569

Re: United relaunches DEN-LHR

This seems more of a shot across the bow to Norwegian than anything. More like UA hitting the panic button after seeing DY expand furiously in their home markets like: NYC and San Francisco (OAK), with ORD service starting next Summer too. Every legacy TATL carrier is in full reactionary mode right...

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by airfrnt
Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN Great Hall Project Update
Replies: 168
Views: 15947

Re: DEN Great Hall Project Update

BTW, to give credit where credit is due, Scott Kirby (UA's president) was actually at the session, and did state that United Plans to grow Denver by 50%. The airport also stated that the additional new gates being added to DEN over the next 3 years (22 being asked for) will take the airport to withi...

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by airfrnt
Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN Great Hall Project Update
Replies: 168
Views: 15947

Re: DEN Great Hall Project Update

I used to fly weekly to Denver. I don't get why people think this airport is so great. It takes forever to get anywhere and get anything. They should spend the money on increasing the capacity and frequency of the train and develop some alternate way to get to the rental car area (think: SFO).. The...

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by airfrnt
Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus to cut A380 production to 8 frames in 2019
Replies: 115
Views: 16720

Re: Airbus to cut A380 production to 8 frames in 2019

IMO, the only things wrong about the A380 were their initial market predictions, which - only in hindsight - were proven to be too optimistic, and the fact that the aircraft was possibly too early for its time. And making the -800 the shrink model instead of the base model. It wasn't optimistic, it...

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by airfrnt
Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN Great Hall Project Update
Replies: 168
Views: 15947

Re: DEN Great Hall Project Update

Is this the result of Marijuana money. I heard the city of Denver is doing great with tax revenue. lol! No. The airport has a stand-alone budget, and does not come out of the general budget that the city has that revenues flow in from various Marijuana taxes. In addition, Colorado has a very restri...

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by airfrnt
Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN Great Hall Project Update
Replies: 168
Views: 15947

Re: DEN Great Hall Project Update

United doesn't have as many flights as they used to say 10 years ago from DEN as a lot of that went to express, however in recent years United has taken back a lot of flights from express and also moved to the rolling bank system which at peak times of the day put's the checkin counters just as bus...

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by airfrnt
Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN Great Hall Project Update
Replies: 168
Views: 15947

Re: DEN Great Hall Project Update

As much as I'm not a fan of the project, I do know a little bit about building stuff. The cost of this is in the systems upgrades/modernization, moving security, and re-configuring all the ticket counters, because of all the technical systems--behind the scenes--and temporary workarounds necessary ...

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by airfrnt
Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN Great Hall Project Update
Replies: 168
Views: 15947

Re: DEN Great Hall Project Update

This is completely the wrong plan. It is true that with Security taking up half of level 6 there may possibly be more room, however it leaves less room for airline check in which is already constrained at certain times of the day and now when security backs up it would now crowd an already crowded ...

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by airfrnt
Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN Great Hall Project Update
Replies: 168
Views: 15947

Re: DEN Great Hall Project Update

UA testimony delivered by Kirby reportedly said UA currently has plans to grow passenger counts by 50% in the coming years. No word on time frame but that is big talk for sure. I give UA promises at DEN very little credence. On the other hand, I've heard from WN staff that they plan to eventually m...

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by airfrnt
Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN Great Hall Project Update
Replies: 168
Views: 15947

Re: DEN Great Hall Project Update

The plan passed the business subcommittee on a 4-1 vote earlier today. It's now going to the full city council. UA testimony delivered by Kirby reportedly said UA currently has plans to grow passenger counts by 50% in the coming years. No word on time frame but that is big talk for sure. I give UA ...

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by airfrnt
Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN Great Hall Project Update
Replies: 168
Views: 15947

Re: DEN Great Hall Project Update

The plan passed the business subcommittee on a 4-1 vote earlier today. It's now going to the full city council. 1) Adopting a Schipol security experience and theoretically doubling the maximum capacity for security screening 2) Re-aligning checkin to one side of the terminal to free up new space (us...

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by airfrnt
Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United relaunches DEN-LHR
Replies: 85
Views: 14569

Re: United relaunches DEN-LHR

The airport and the airlines both have valid arguments. The airport is trying to bring in more revenue by making itself a destination in and of itself. Increased revenues will likely benefit both the airports and tenants if successfuly. On the other hand, the airlines have a point that most travele...

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by airfrnt
Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United relaunches DEN-LHR
Replies: 85
Views: 14569

Re: United relaunches DEN-LHR

Wow. I am really shocked at this. There is just a immense amount of TATL traffic that has been added. That said, I have a flight in two weeks to London, and a economy plus seat on BA was quoted out at $11k.

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by airfrnt
Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian announces DEN-CDG
Replies: 51
Views: 9806

Re: Norwegian announces DEN-CDG

globalcabotage wrote:
Low risk. Denver is providing "incentives" and UA can route via ORD, EWR, and IAD. UA is more concerned about F9 than $299 flights to CDG twice a week.


They should be. I may start taking this flight instead of the 2k flight through frankfurt that is JV'd with Lufthansa.

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by airfrnt
Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Significant System Wide Frontier Announcement Tuesday July 18th
Replies: 312
Views: 39251

Re: Significant System Wide Frontier Announcement Tuesday July 18th

The most interesting bit here is DEN. They are dropping frequencies on some routes, but more then making up for it with more routes. 21 new destinations from Denver, which puts it behind UA in terms of destinations from DEN, but ahead of WN. As F9 grows, I think the percentage of DEN based flying wi...

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by airfrnt
Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN Great Hall Project Update
Replies: 168
Views: 15947

Re: DEN Great Hall Project Update

I don't get the repeated personal attacks on Kim Day. By every measure, DEN is expanding at a good clip, international service is expanding, debt is more then manageable, and the airport continues to grow. I've come to the conclusion that the vast majority are sexism at worst, or partisan at best. ...

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by airfrnt
Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN Great Hall Project Update
Replies: 168
Views: 15947

Re: DEN Great Hall Project Update

In my personal opinion Kim Day is so completely inept that it's no wonder the airlines aren't supportive of yet another project which will benefit very few people. DEN is a decent airport and my hometown airport, but it is far from the best and this planned Great Hall update continues to throw mone...

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by airfrnt
Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN Great Hall Project Update
Replies: 168
Views: 15947

Re: DEN Great Hall Project Update

jetmatt777 wrote:
Good. I think it's time the airlines speak up. This deal has never made sense.


Bear in mind, the Airlines always try and reject any capital expense that is not directly for them. UA and CO spent a amazing amount of time and money keeping DEN from being built in the first place.

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by airfrnt
Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest schedule extension June 22, 2017
Replies: 202
Views: 25741

Re: Southwest schedule extension June 22, 2017

On a different note, I do wish that WN would buy a few 737MAX-10s. I'd put em at Love Field and reduce frequencies to places like DEN and MDW (2 10s would seat about what 3 700s would seat), and use the new found gate space to launch new service... but that's just me. I know you have logical intent...

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by airfrnt
Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Could LAX Become The Worlds Busiest Airport?
Replies: 79
Views: 13466

Re: Could LAX Become The Worlds Busiest Airport?

The only way this would happen is for them to tear down everything but TBIT, and rebuild it as a mid-field concourse airport (which Atlanta did and then Denver copied and improved on). There is not enough runways, taxi-ways and basic infrastructure to do this anyways. It would probably also include ...

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by airfrnt
Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN Great Hall Project Update
Replies: 168
Views: 15947

Re: DEN Great Hall Project Update

Dumb idea if you ask me. The people who use the concessions in the main hall do so because they are waiting for arriving passengers they are picking up, or waiting to go to the gate with their families who are dropping them off. If you move the security point outside of the main hall, then passenge...

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by airfrnt
Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN Great Hall Project Update
Replies: 168
Views: 15947

Re: DEN Great Hall Project Update

What exactly is the point of a land side "great hall" in this day and age? No one hangs out land side anymore. Airports are not a destination like they used to be decades ago. These days people want to get thru security as fast as possible, and arriving passengers want to get out as fast ...

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by airfrnt
Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN Great Hall Project Update
Replies: 168
Views: 15947

Re: DEN Great Hall Project Update

I'm not completely sold on this project yet, but thats because I don't know the full size and scope of the project. The facelift and re-organization of the main terminal alone can't possible be the 1billion the project is over. At the very least it looks like a pretty serious reconfiguration of the ...

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by airfrnt
Wed May 24, 2017 7:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's next for Denver Intl Airport
Replies: 185
Views: 29835

Re: What's next for Denver Intl Airport

Couple of more pieces of information: 1) DEN will be expanding C concourse by another 7-10 gates to meet more demand from WN. WN currently has 26 gates, and this would take them to 33-36 total gates. WN is shooting for at least 250 flights, and eventually 300 flights daily at Denver. Didn't WN just...

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by airfrnt
Wed May 24, 2017 7:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's next for Denver Intl Airport
Replies: 185
Views: 29835

Re: What's next for Denver Intl Airport

Couple of more pieces of information: 1) DEN will be expanding C concourse by another 7-10 gates to meet more demand from WN. WN currently has 26 gates, and this would take them to 33-36 total gates. WN is shooting for at least 250 flights, and eventually 300 flights daily at Denver. Didn't WN just...

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by airfrnt
Wed May 24, 2017 7:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's next for Denver Intl Airport
Replies: 185
Views: 29835

Re: What's next for Denver Intl Airport

Couple of more pieces of information: 1) DEN will be expanding C concourse by another 7-10 gates to meet more demand from WN. WN currently has 26 gates, and this would take them to 33-36 total gates. WN is shooting for at least 250 flights, and eventually 300 flights daily at Denver. Right now the c...

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by airfrnt
Wed May 24, 2017 2:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's next for Denver Intl Airport
Replies: 185
Views: 29835

Re: What's next for Denver Intl Airport

Why doesn't UA allow LF to use the B concourse for their flights? Wouldn't it be easier for connecting passengers to have all of star alliance on one concourse. Will Copa use concourse A or B? The foreign entry stuff is only on A concourse, so unless international pre-clearance occurred at the remo...

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by airfrnt
Tue May 23, 2017 10:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Next generation VLA, and why it will be an A380
Replies: 187
Views: 21732

Re: Next generation VLA, and why it will be an A380

The pattern has consistently been that when a slightly smaller twin competes with a larger quad, it decimates the larger quad. The VLA market was projected to be thousands of units, not hundreds. Even at that projection, it was a dicey bet to launch the A380 and the 747-8i. I don't think either carr...

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by airfrnt
Sun May 14, 2017 7:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United's future International Expansion
Replies: 101
Views: 18063

Re: United's future International Expansion

For UA to really run grow DEN, it is going to have to really commit to DEN as a international gateway to build up enough mass to kick out BA, and defend against Norwegian. I don't think that's in the cards any time soon.

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by airfrnt
Sun May 14, 2017 7:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New MCI Single Terminal Proposal
Replies: 91
Views: 13572

Re: New MCI Single Terminal Proposal

I feel for the city - the reality is that they were forced into this design by TWA, which wanted a drive to your gate airport. After hijackings became a thing, the need for security gateways destroyed any usability at the airport, and then sued by TWA to add insult to injury before TWA a band owned ...

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by airfrnt
Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airports in desperate need of more gates
Replies: 102
Views: 15165

Re: Airports in desperate need of more gates

DEN needs more gates as well. I know some were recently added for SW on Concourse C, but UA is also rapidly outgrowing Concourse B. They have started to have 1 departure from A and added 2 ridiculously long jet bridges to the end of B in order to get 2 additional gates. They still need some more. P...

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by airfrnt
Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's next for Denver Intl Airport
Replies: 185
Views: 29835

Re: What's next for Denver Intl Airport

There's plenty of room for expansion at DEN, and that's an understatement. I believe the west end of Concourse A will be extended soon, so they could convert more gates near the middle to common use. In my opinion, a combination of fully extending A, converting more gates to common use, and/or kick...

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by airfrnt
Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's next for Denver Intl Airport
Replies: 185
Views: 29835

Re: What's next for Denver Intl Airport

Considering the long wish list Denver officials have and the airlines currently serving, are there plans to construct a dedicated international terminal similar to the likes of TBIT? Its beginning to be a little tight in concourse A and the customs facilities are pathetically inefficient No need. D...

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by airfrnt
Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's next for Denver Intl Airport
Replies: 185
Views: 29835

Re: What's next for Denver Intl Airport

Is BA really losing money on DEN-LHR? I mean I haven't really heard anything either way, but it's been a 744 for several years now. If it was really that bad, surely they would have gone back to a 777 by now? I'd be totally shocked if this was the case. I've seen the flight constantly full, and it'...

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by airfrnt
Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's next for Denver Intl Airport
Replies: 185
Views: 29835

Re: What's next for Denver Intl Airport

more then likely, a LATAM route, rather then Europe or the ME3.

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by airfrnt
Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's next for Denver Intl Airport
Replies: 185
Views: 29835

Re: What's next for Denver Intl Airport

Two things DIA has me wondering about: 1) If BA can make LHR-DEN work, why can't United? United has a massive hub in DEN and it's a route they've flown before. Seems sad they won't even try to compete with BA at one of their hubs. 2) I read a while back that American Express is considering building...

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by airfrnt
Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's next for Denver Intl Airport
Replies: 185
Views: 29835

Re: What's next for Denver Intl Airport

Not really important to Avgeeks----but the biggest problem we have is parking. The airport is on at ??? percentage of build out and parking is unbelievabity poor. Just take a look at the current Google Earth parking lots! I was up at DIA yesterday and the garages and other lots were mostly full. I ...

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by airfrnt
Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's next for Denver Intl Airport
Replies: 185
Views: 29835

Re: What's next for Denver Intl Airport

https://www.transtats.bts.gov/AverageFare/ I would contend the DEN ticket prices are "reasonable" only because of fares charged by Alaska, Frontier, Jet Blue, Spirit and Sun Country offset the US4. A look at the fares where there is no competition gives you a picture of what the two big D...

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by airfrnt
Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's next for Denver Intl Airport
Replies: 185
Views: 29835

Re: What's next for Denver Intl Airport

KDEN is now over twenty years old and is obviously showing signs of wear and need for renewal in a number if areas. When it was built it was touted as "the all weather airport for the future". Well we have seen how that was nothing but a PR stunt to help sell the project. Every storm that...

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by airfrnt
Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BER opening postponed for the 4th time
Replies: 103
Views: 17018

Re: BER opening postponed for the 4th time

People seem to forget that Berlin was entirely re-built since WWII and huge parts of the centre we re-built since reunification, a feat no US city has ever had to undertake and for the most part it was completed and is hugely successful, so in perspective BER is a small undertaking. Give Germany so...

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by airfrnt
Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Investor Event - Nov. 15th - New management team plans
Replies: 51
Views: 7208

Re: United Investor Event - Nov. 15th - New management team plans

Denver's status and growth plans are really interesting because Southwest is also planning a aggressive expansion. I've been told that Southwest is planning on between 250 and 300 daily departures within a five year period at Denver. There is real risk that the two carriers may cannibalize each othe...

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by airfrnt
Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Denver International plans security reconfiguration, new lounge and growth
Replies: 40
Views: 5237

Re: Denver International plans security reconfiguration, new lounge and growth

I thought that was crap. I only remember the central checkpoint was much smaller and there were concessions in the current queue space. If that were true you couldn't move between ticket counter or baggage claim sides. Lol The OP clarified his response before you posted, look again. The Great Hall ...

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by airfrnt
Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Denver International plans security reconfiguration, new lounge and growth
Replies: 40
Views: 5237

Re: Denver International plans security reconfiguration, new lounge and growth

Even if they sterilize the Great Hall, I don't see how people are going to stay there and peruse the retail and restaurants unless if DIA turns into a place like Heathrow Terminal 4 where you don't find out your gate until boarding time. In my view, most people prefer to rush to find their gate fir...

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