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by GlenP
Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA's ongoing PR issues
Replies: 372
Views: 32503

Re: UA Gets Another Nod From The NY Post--Former Beauty Queen Zip Tied On Flight

Blimpie wrote:
This sounds more like a set up to a cheesy porno. Is the NYP getting it's newsroom copy mixed up with Penthouse again, cause that happens in their bullpen from time to time.


Only if those doing the zip tying were wearing black leather ski masks, aprons and thigh boots at the time :)

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by GlenP
Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

It doesn't say anything about being onboard or off. He admitted it was handled poorly, not that anyone from United assaulted him. It was well within their rights to deny him boarding in an oversold situation. I guess they should just sit there all night next time so you won't need to use so many ti...

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by GlenP
Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

You know how his injuries could have been avoided? By him getting his ass up when told to. He wasn't being asked, he was being told. Repeatedly. You know how his injuries could have really been avoided? By the cheapskate airline offering more compensation, real money (instead of United vouchers) an...

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by GlenP
Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Other 3 passengers on the UA ORD - SDF flight?
Replies: 3
Views: 1424

Re: Other 3 passengers on the UA ORD - SDF flight?

Sorry to contradict you, but all reports indicate nobody took either the first or second incentive to voluntarily disembark, hence the fact that the airline had to resort to selecting passengers to be told they were being involuntarily disembarked from the aircraft. After that , nobody seems to have...

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by GlenP
Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

You can read it yourself. It says nothing about being on board already or not. They "admitted" to appease social justice warriors who think that someone who says you'll have to drag me off shouldn't be dragged off. Go on. Do tell us you're actually in the running for daftest comment of th...

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by GlenP
Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

They would have told them to get off the plane. Oh, you mean the security goons, prior to arresting them for assault? The police would most likely have told the airline staff that this was a commercial dispute, and, as such nothing to do with the police. Yet you're suggesting his wife should have c...

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by GlenP
Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Your lease doesn't have a stipulation that they may lease to someone else and can remove you and compensate you. Your plane ticket does. There are clearly stipulated circumstances under which you can be denied boarding or removed from the aircraft once boarded. Making room for airline employees, wh...

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by GlenP
Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

I wonder what would've happened had Dr. Dao's wife called the "real cops" via 911 when these goons started threatening her husband ! They would have told them to get off the plane. Oh, you mean the security goons, prior to arresting them for assault? The police would most likely have told...

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by GlenP
Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Interesting Read, http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/40233 In all fairness he was not beaten as that article claims. For safety, they should have at least asked the passengers in the rows in front and in back of Mr. Dao to temporarily vacate their seats. IF, a security officer had been on either si...

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by GlenP
Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United passenger threatened with handcuffs to make room for 'higher-priority' traveler
Replies: 214
Views: 26458

Re: United passenger threatened with handcuffs to make room for 'higher-priority' traveler

Already speculated on the first page of the thread. However, there would be no means of proving this hypothesis, any more than it is possible to disprove the passenger's account of events with 100% certainty, so it must remain nothing more than a proposed identity for this, "more important pass...

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by GlenP
Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

I'm so envious of Dr. Dao's lawyers right now. Yep, that pretty much sums it up 95% of the posters on this thread. On the other hand the Dr. may get some $$ for his experience but he still has to live the fact that in his past he traded drugs for sex and those kind of drugs are killing thousands he...

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by GlenP
Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Should it not be up to the 2 parties signing a contract how such issues are handled? Maybe I want to take the risk of being removed for operational reasons in return for a cheaper ticket on some flights and willing to pay extra for the guarantee to not be removed on others. The government needs to ...

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by GlenP
Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

In what way do you think this overbooking protection will help you against the airline? They will still try to throw you off in case they think they need the space. The problem is the airline and the arrogance of big organisation thinking that everybody else has to back down. Sorry, but I fail to s...

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by GlenP
Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

More rules that will make tickets more expensive and help terrorists and other criminals. The simple solution is to make it optional to have an overbooking protection with your ticket or not. If you buy a cheap basic fare it won´t be included. In what way do you think this overbooking protection wi...

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by GlenP
Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

I just figured out what United could and should do in the future, Cancel the flight, remove all the passengers, move the airplane to another gate, and then re-instate the flight with another number for the same destination. It sure alleviates the need to Beat UP and Drag passengers off the airplane...

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by GlenP
Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

they certainly can ask you to leave private property. if you rent an appartment the landlord can't call the Police to remove you from his property! You have a valid contract that gives you the right to be there. If you don't like it, go to court. Your lease doesn't have a stipulation that they may ...

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by GlenP
Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

I am in the Air Force and I don't understand people who think authority figures acting outside their authorities should be given any time of day. Your lot sound like they would enjoy living in North Korea more than the USA. . Yep, Neither Queen's Rules & Reg's not the Book of Military Law requi...

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by GlenP
Fri Apr 14, 2017 6:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

The scorpion story...is it true? It appears to be, and UA is fair game on the news. When I fly, probably the last thing I expect to happen is to have a scorpion fall out of the overheads. You can't blame the media for the level of ineptness showby by United lately. Scorpion climbs into someone's ha...

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by GlenP
Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

According to the Q&A article, linked to by Cubsrule, above, they didn't have the authority to remove the passenger from the aircraft and should have awaited the arrival of proper police officers. Hence the fact that all 3 are currently, "on leave," whilst there's an investigation into ...

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by GlenP
Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

[ BTW. Now the lawyers are involved, one really does need to be careful about repeating any of the refuted allegations against the passenger's character. As has been proved several times in recent years, it is possible to liable someone via Internet discussion boards and social media. By repeating ...

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by GlenP
Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United passenger threatened with handcuffs to make room for 'higher-priority' traveler
Replies: 214
Views: 26458

Re: United passenger threatened with handcuffs to make room for 'higher-priority' traveler

So an FAM can have a F class passengers booted off the plane to accomodate them and what if the F passenger has an important meeting or business deal to attend to or something personal, what if they paid full fare and are the top man at some big company that matters? Just to make certain people don...

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by GlenP
Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

When you're instructed to get off the plane by airline staff, you need to comply. Failure to do so results in the police being called and removing you. Failure to comply with the police and you will be forcibly removed. This man failed to comply with instructions from airline employees and the poli...

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by GlenP
Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Also I have heard report Dr Dao's wife was on the same flight, so was she also offered the same amount money or UA figured it did not matter to separate a married couple? According to Wiki - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Express_Flight_3411_incident - Dr. Dao's wife was one of three passenge...

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by GlenP
Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Most people would agree that it is not the role of the police to act as the private enforcers for businesses seeking to renege on a contract. There was no breach of the peace, the passenger wasn't being disruptive and was not a threat to flight safety. No criminal acts were committed. Regardless of ...

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by GlenP
Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

So the cavalier gate agent laughs when someone suggests higher compensation? He/she trys to save United an few hundred bucks but ends up costing United millions of dollars. Can't make this up if you tried. The gate agent had no power to change the United oversale procedure . A gate agent is not an ...

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by GlenP
Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in most countries, the police would normally only get involved in a civil dispute, which is what this incident was; regardless of claims that the by refusing to accept the airline's interpretation of the contract between them, as vendor and the passenger, as a paying cus...

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by GlenP
Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

It seems in a world where an airline can not just beat up a passenger to enforce there view of a contract made between them and the passenger. Where do airline staff get the idea that a contract does not give rights? What do you think a contract is about? Yes, but the contract clearly states that a...

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by GlenP
Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Canada Follows USA w/Unspecified Electronics Restrictions
Replies: 4
Views: 2295

Re: Canada Follows USA w/Unspecified Electronics Restrictions

True, the devil will be in the detail. All the above mentioned governments have ben shown the same threat assessment and all have implemented differing measures; bearing in mind that the US ban also applies to cameras, which are excluded by the UK restrictions, and applied them to different airports...

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by GlenP
Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

BTP also cover the underground railways, in places such as London, Liverpool and Newcastle.

There are separate police forces for nuclear installations, and ports and the MOD also has its own, civilian, police force (Military Police have no civilian jurisdiction).

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by GlenP
Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Apologies if this info has already been posted but I thought well informed posters could confirm if DOT directives were followed by UA crew. Also can someone clarify if airlines can overrule the directives and the circumstances in the link below? https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/fly-right...

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by GlenP
Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Do airlines within an alliance help each other out? I'm wondering because Star has SQ which has got to be the most consistently great airline for customer service, as well as a number of other airlines with top rated service like OZ and NZ, and surely some lessons could be shared. I've had only lim...

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by GlenP
Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Why would UA be in even deeper trouble if all 4 who came off were Asian? The first 3 that came off volunteered, so that doesn't matter if they were Asian or not, if they volunteered, that's their choice I thought nobody volunteered, and those were just the three of the four that were picked? 3 volu...

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by GlenP
Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 132216

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/xiox0kURStqp91VkiEpD3A--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9NjMwO2g9NDM3O2lsPXBsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/de_DE/lifestyles/Content%20Fleet/united-airlines-so-reagiert-das-netz-auf-den-brutalen-flugzeug-rausschmiss-105231.jpg Now that is a good one. :rotfl:

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by GlenP
Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Onboard oven for personal use
Replies: 17
Views: 3132

Re: Onboard oven for personal use

32andBelow wrote:
Cool. I'm bringing fish and Brussels sprouts


Go for some lovely kippers. You know it makes sense ;)

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by GlenP
Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is The Laptop Ban A Subtle Way For The U.S To Rein In The ME3?
Replies: 40
Views: 4470

Re: Is The Laptop Ban A Subtle Way For The U.S To Rein In The ME3?

Turkey may be classed as European, but they are under the same restrictions as Middle Eastern airlines and airports.

They may give shelter to Ikwan members but they are not supporting any of the universally acknowledged terrorist groups mentioned, therefore your argument still doesn't hold water.

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by GlenP
Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is The Laptop Ban A Subtle Way For The U.S To Rein In The ME3?
Replies: 40
Views: 4470

Re: Is The Laptop Ban A Subtle Way For The U.S To Rein In The ME3?

Except that no European country considers ISIS / DAESH, nor any of its self-declared affiliates, to be freedom fighters. The same applies to Al Qaeda, Al Nusra Front, Al Shebab or Boko Haram, so your argument on that front fails. It could be argued that there is at least one country giving asylum to...

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by GlenP
Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is The Laptop Ban A Subtle Way For The U.S To Rein In The ME3?
Replies: 40
Views: 4470

Re: Is The Laptop Ban A Subtle Way For The U.S To Rein In The ME3?

Right, so you yet again tar the entire population of multiple countries with the same brush; the fact that a person is of either a certain nationality or adheres to a specific religion is not an indicator of a predisposition to terrorism. If that were the case evangelical, some would say fundamental...

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by GlenP
Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is The Laptop Ban A Subtle Way For The U.S To Rein In The ME3?
Replies: 40
Views: 4470

Re: Is The Laptop Ban A Subtle Way For The U.S To Rein In The ME3?

If the US has such great intelligence about the existence of this elusive "sophisticated airport security equipment", then they should also be able to determine where it is - and take it out. And why should US intelligence agencies reveal their sources to a foreign commercial entity. Anal...

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by GlenP
Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:58 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump Administration Considers Far-Reaching Steps for ‘Extreme Vetting’
Replies: 50
Views: 3897

Re: Trump Administration Considers Far-Reaching Steps for ‘Extreme Vetting’

Let's be honest about this. If such vetting is stated as being applicable to all travellers wishing to enter the USA, it provides a means of circumventing any possible court intervention, to the effect that it is targeting only specific ethnic or religious groups. However, it is not the wording of s...

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by GlenP
Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US/UK banning electronics in cabin from multiple Middle East/African countries
Replies: 411
Views: 41812

Re: US/UK banning electronics in cabin from multiple Middle East/African countries

As many know Australia has increased security on flights from the ME3 and I think this quote is important Taking place at the boarding gate – rather than the main airport security checkpoints – passengers will be randomly selected for the additional checks as they prepare to board with targeted scr...

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by GlenP
Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US/UK banning electronics in cabin from multiple Middle East/African countries
Replies: 411
Views: 41812

Re: ... And Here Is The Reason For The Laptop Ban

... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/01/airports-nuclear-power-stations-terror-alert-government-officials/ Britain’s airports and nuclear power stations have been told to tighten their defences against terrorist attacks in the face of increased threats to electronic security systems. Securit...

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by GlenP
Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US/UK banning electronics in cabin from multiple Middle East/African countries
Replies: 411
Views: 41812

Re: Royal Jordanian banning electronics in cabin on US flights

US carriers codeshare on flights to these destinations and it's possible to book itineraries that include both flights on their alliance partners and US carriers. If this was a genuine attempt to beef up security, due to a perceived ongoing risk, then the ban should apply to any passenger originati...

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by GlenP
Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US/UK banning electronics in cabin from multiple Middle East/African countries
Replies: 411
Views: 41812

Re: Royal Jordanian banning electronics in cabin on US flights

US carriers codeshare on flights to these destinations and it's possible to book itineraries that include both flights on their alliance partners and US carriers. If this was a genuine attempt to beef up security, due to a perceived ongoing risk, then the ban should apply to any passenger originatin...

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by GlenP
Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US/UK banning electronics in cabin from multiple Middle East/African countries
Replies: 411
Views: 41812

Re: Royal Jordanian banning electronics in cabin on US flights

Sky News is reporting that this is not a reaction to a specific threat, but a response to the ongoing threat to aviation.

I.e. There is no actual indication of an attack being planned involving any of the listed airports or airlines,

See: http://tinyurl.com/mgz3sae

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by GlenP
Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US/UK banning electronics in cabin from multiple Middle East/African countries
Replies: 411
Views: 41812

Re: Royal Jordanian banning electronics in cabin on US flights

But if British authorities completely ban an Egyptian airport, it is balanced. Utterly irrelevant. The ban on flights to an from SSH is in a response to a proven incident. However, you are asking us to believe that security agencies are stating that they are aware of a specific threat that will be ...

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by GlenP
Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US/UK banning electronics in cabin from multiple Middle East/African countries
Replies: 411
Views: 41812

Re: Royal Jordanian banning electronics in cabin on US flights

The only other explanation is that US might think that the security at these airports is either compromised or don't have means to do proper screening to identify the suspicious objects. If the terrorists go through, say Europe, it feels they will do a better job of stopping the terrorists. If this...

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by GlenP
Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US/UK banning electronics in cabin from multiple Middle East/African countries
Replies: 411
Views: 41812

Re: Royal Jordanian banning electronics in cabin on US flights

But if British authorities completely ban an Egyptian airport, it is balanced. Utterly irrelevant. The ban on flights to an from SSH is in a response to a proven incident. However, you are asking us to believe that security agencies are stating that they are aware of a specific threat that will be ...

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by GlenP
Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US/UK banning electronics in cabin from multiple Middle East/African countries
Replies: 411
Views: 41812

Re: Royal Jordanian banning electronics in cabin on US flights

Sorry, to disagree, but rather than minimising the stated security threat, they are actually making an implicit statement that flights on specific airlines, from specific airports are more prone to possible terrorist attacks. In effect they are warning potential passengers off flying these routes an...

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by GlenP
Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US/UK banning electronics in cabin from multiple Middle East/African countries
Replies: 411
Views: 41812

Re: Royal Jordanian banning electronics in cabin on US flights

The only other explanation is that US might think that the security at these airports is either compromised or don't have means to do proper screening to identify the suspicious objects. If the terrorists go through, say Europe, it feels they will do a better job of stopping the terrorists. If this...

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by GlenP
Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US/UK banning electronics in cabin from multiple Middle East/African countries
Replies: 411
Views: 41812

Re: Royal Jordanian banning electronics in cabin on US flights

[quote="rukundo"]Depending some airports, hold bags are screened during the connecting. At Paris we have various TBM (Tri Bagage), you can read this on their website:/quote] All checked bags are screened at MAN, for instance, and both connecting PAX and those who's flight simply makes a st...

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