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by Aesma
Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:41 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Rahm Emanuel Expected To Quit White House
Replies: 30
Views: 3491

RE: Rahm Emanuel Expected To Quit White House

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/NIKV69" class="quote" target="_blank">NIKV69</a> (<a href="#4" class="quote">Reply 4</a>):<br/><i>Don't forget Obama didn't win because of the v...

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by Aesma
Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:16 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Boeing To License AW101 For Presidential Helo Bid
Replies: 23
Views: 8693

RE: Boeing To License AW101 For Presidential Helo Bid

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/par13del" class="quote" target="_blank">par13del</a> (<a href="#8" class="quote">Reply 8</a>):<br/><i>The purchase is still under question as Bo...

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by Aesma
Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:55 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: NSFW: Anelka's "Astonshing" Curse, In French?
Replies: 28
Views: 6611

RE: NSFW: Anelka's "Astonshing" Curse, In French?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/N1120A" class="quote" target="_blank">N1120A</a> (<a href="#7" class="quote">Reply 7</a>):<br/><i>Interesting, given that they have religion in ...

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by Aesma
Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:37 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Rahm Emanuel Expected To Quit White House
Replies: 30
Views: 3491

RE: Rahm Emanuel Expected To Quit White House

Maybe Obama's ideas are idealistic, but he has been elected on them. If he doesn't make any of them happen, I don't see how he could be elected again. I mean, the idea is not to please the people who didn't vote for him anyway !

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by Aesma
Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:22 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Future Countries/territories By 2030?
Replies: 61
Views: 3810

RE: Future Countries/territories By 2030?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/gemuser" class="quote" target="_blank">gemuser</a> (<a href="#37" class="quote">Reply 37</a>):<br/><i>Nobody has mentioned New Caladonia. Was th...

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by Aesma
Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:05 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Sex Offender Sues For Right To Attend Church
Replies: 38
Views: 3891

RE: Sex Offender Sues For Right To Attend Church

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Dreadnought" class="quote" target="_blank">Dreadnought</a> (<a href="#11" class="quote">Reply 11</a>):<br/><i>The man is considered a danger to ...

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by Aesma
Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:58 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Who Drives A Pickup?
Replies: 59
Views: 4211

RE: Who Drives A Pickup?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Fly2HMO" class="quote" target="_blank">Fly2HMO</a> (<a href="#16" class="quote">Reply 16</a>):<br/><i>Quoting bsteph (Thread starter): Who Drive...

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by Aesma
Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:49 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Nasa 747s To Be Scrapped After Last Shuttle Flight
Replies: 53
Views: 17649

RE: Nasa 747s To Be Scrapped After Last Shuttle Flight

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/kanban" class="quote" target="_blank">kanban</a> (<a href="#7" class="quote">Reply 7</a>):<br/><i>sad... A museum taking a shuttle should leave ...

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by Aesma
Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:46 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Future Countries/territories By 2030?
Replies: 61
Views: 3810

RE: Future Countries/territories By 2030?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/sw733" class="quote" target="_blank">sw733</a> (<a href="#23" class="quote">Reply 23</a>):<br/><i>You don't think French Polynesia will break aw...

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by Aesma
Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:27 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Lieberman Wants To Shut Down The Internet
Replies: 86
Views: 6000

RE: Lieberman Wants To Shut Down The Internet

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/LAXintl" class="quote" target="_blank">LAXintl</a> (<a href="#26" class="quote">Reply 26</a>):<br/><i>Like it or not, the internet has become an...

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by Aesma
Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:08 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Future Countries/territories By 2030?
Replies: 61
Views: 3810

RE: Future Countries/territories By 2030?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Mortyman" class="quote" target="_blank">Mortyman</a> (<a href="#9" class="quote">Reply 9</a>):<br/><i>French Polynesia breaking away from France...

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by Aesma
Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:54 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: On The Right Path: Next AZ Immigration Law
Replies: 212
Views: 6546

RE: On The Right Path: Next AZ Immigration Law

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/WarRI1" class="quote" target="_blank">WarRI1</a> (<a href="#118" class="quote">Reply 118</a>):<br/><i>Your point, brings up another. How do all ...

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by Aesma
Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:32 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Lieberman Wants To Shut Down The Internet
Replies: 86
Views: 6000

RE: Lieberman Wants To Shut Down The Internet

I don't know if "shutting down the internet" even means something, how could you do it ? You can cripple it, and maybe the US can isolate itself from it, but then it would still be running everywhere else, so it wouldn't be shut down at all. This bill appears to me as yet another bill about the inte...

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by Aesma
Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:44 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: On The Right Path: Next AZ Immigration Law
Replies: 212
Views: 6546

RE: On The Right Path: Next AZ Immigration Law

The journey often does not start at the border, keep that in mind.

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by Aesma
Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:14 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: GTA 4 And My PC; Will It Work?
Replies: 6
Views: 3130

RE: GTA 4 And My PC; Will It Work?

FSX is very hard on the CPU and HDD, which is quite different from most games (that want above all a good graphic card). However I don't know for GTA4, I do know that it's not very optimized. Maybe you can get a demo ?

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by Aesma
Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:08 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Car Fined Despite Having No Wheels
Replies: 10
Views: 3575

RE: Car Fined Despite Having No Wheels

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Alias1024" class="quote" target="_blank">Alias1024</a> (<a href="#1" class="quote">Reply 1</a>):<br/><i>Is that the jack the thieves used I see ...

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by Aesma
Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:49 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Show Us What You Drive
Replies: 263
Views: 17053

RE: Show Us What You Drive

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Rabenschlag" class="quote" target="_blank">Rabenschlag</a> (<a href="#89" class="quote">Reply 89</a>):<br/><i>I hope to hover in one of these ge...

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by Aesma
Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:54 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: US Blames EU For Turkey Foreign Policy 'drift'
Replies: 133
Views: 6064

RE: US Blames EU For Turkey Foreign Policy 'drift'

I don't know if it's the same everywhere, I heard France is not unique in that aspect, that the EU is often vilified by politicians to get elected. All successes are theirs, all problems are the EU's fault. That doesn't help at all. And then, the political parties in the European elections are the s...

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by Aesma
Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:42 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Apple Unveils IPhone 4 And New Features
Replies: 86
Views: 6418

RE: Apple Unveils IPhone 4 And New Features

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Klaus" class="quote" target="_blank">Klaus</a> (<a href="#71" class="quote">Reply 71</a>):<br/><i>It's only got rounded corners so it won't poke...

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by Aesma
Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:12 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Osama Bin Laden Hitman Detained In Pakistan
Replies: 20
Views: 3049

RE: Osama Bin Laden Hitman Detained In Pakistan

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Mudboy" class="quote" target="_blank">Mudboy</a> (<a href="#17" class="quote">Reply 17</a>):<br/><i>A lot of people call jumping out of an airpl...

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by Aesma
Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:58 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: On The Right Path: Next AZ Immigration Law
Replies: 212
Views: 6546

RE: On The Right Path: Next AZ Immigration Law

So you think that people cross the border risking their life because they don't want to pay taxes ? A detail about the idea of changing the law/constitution : would the US president still need to be born on US soil ? I find that bit strange, imagine you're born elsewhere because your (American) moth...

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by Aesma
Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:23 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Ugandan Hate Speech Against Homosexuality
Replies: 29
Views: 3641

RE: Ugandan Hate Speech Against Homosexuality

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Crosscheck007" class="quote" target="_blank">Crosscheck007</a> (<a href="#13" class="quote">Reply 13</a>):<br/><i>Did anyone happen to catch thi...

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by Aesma
Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:25 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: US Blames EU For Turkey Foreign Policy 'drift'
Replies: 133
Views: 6064

RE: US Blames EU For Turkey Foreign Policy 'drift'

If by "being a NATO member" you mean "buying F-16 and F-35 hundreds at a time" then that's not really helping.

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by Aesma
Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:19 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Apple Unveils IPhone 4 And New Features
Replies: 86
Views: 6418

RE: Apple Unveils IPhone 4 And New Features

I'd never buy it, but it definitely looks nice, I loathe the rounded look. Glad they went for a high resolution screen also, now all other phone makers will do the same, more choice for me, till now I could only go for one or two models per brand (was going for a HTC Touch <acronym title="Hokkaido I...

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by Aesma
Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:50 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: On The Right Path: Next AZ Immigration Law
Replies: 212
Views: 6546

RE: On The Right Path: Next AZ Immigration Law

I just read what that amendment was about. Just so you know, France has the same kind of law (droit du sol), others too. In Mayotte (French territory) there are a lot of Comorans anchor babies as you call them. The current government is "tough on illegal immigration" but only the far right would lik...

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by Aesma
Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:53 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Your Yard / Garden: Fenced / Walled?
Replies: 5
Views: 1853

RE: Your Yard / Garden: Fenced / Walled?

The only house we have with a proper garden is our vacation house in Brittany. It's a centuries old house in the town but near the old edge of it, so basically our garden is an old field. On one side, there is a big tall stone wall as old as the house, with the street behind. On the other side, a ta...

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by Aesma
Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:18 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Osama Bin Laden Hitman Detained In Pakistan
Replies: 20
Views: 3049

RE: Osama Bin Laden Hitman Detained In Pakistan

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/BMI727" class="quote" target="_blank">BMI727</a> (<a href="#7" class="quote">Reply 7</a>):<br/><i>Well, I think that we can make an exception fo...

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by Aesma
Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:58 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Osama Bin Laden Hitman Detained In Pakistan
Replies: 20
Views: 3049

RE: Osama Bin Laden Hitman Detained In Pakistan

How very Christian of him to hunt a man down to kill him !

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by Aesma
Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:36 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: How Come No Major Oceanic Disasters?
Replies: 32
Views: 3810

RE: How Come No Major Oceanic Disasters?

We hear less of big ships than big planes accidents, however we hear a lot more about small ships than small planes (or car) accidents.

Some make the news years after, like the Bugaled Breizh that might have been sunk by a submarine.

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by Aesma
Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:36 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: US Blames EU For Turkey Foreign Policy 'drift'
Replies: 133
Views: 6064

RE: US Blames EU For Turkey Foreign Policy 'drift'

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/eaa3" class="quote" target="_blank">eaa3</a> (<a href="#30" class="quote">Reply 30</a>):<br/><i>Technically when Turkey was accepted as an appli...

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by Aesma
Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:31 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: US Blames EU For Turkey Foreign Policy 'drift'
Replies: 133
Views: 6064

RE: US Blames EU For Turkey Foreign Policy 'drift'

In fact the first words of my sentence are enough. The US shouldn't have anything to say on the matter, but they say the same thing often, meaning there is an agenda.

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by Aesma
Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:04 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: US Blames EU For Turkey Foreign Policy 'drift'
Replies: 133
Views: 6064

RE: US Blames EU For Turkey Foreign Policy 'drift'

The US want Turkey to join the EU so that we can be screwed big time, the US could then be back on top of the world. I'm not totally against Turkey joining the EU, but I must say I was more for it before islamists took power (one reason being their secular state was much like French laïcité, and is ...

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by Aesma
Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:50 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why No More T-Tail Airplanes, Besides Regionals?
Replies: 28
Views: 14823

RE: Why No More T-Tail Airplanes, Besides Regionals?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/DocLightning" class="quote" target="_blank">DocLightning</a> (<a href="#18" class="quote">Reply 18</a>):<br/><i>You mention that the C-130 and C...

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by Aesma
Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:54 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: RTW Teen Sailor "Feared Lost At Sea" - Located
Replies: 83
Views: 4327

RE: RTW Teen Sailor "Feared Lost At Sea" - Located

Glad she's been found. Now about the argument that she was committed and prepared so it was <acronym title="CSA Czech Airlines">OK</acronym> to do it (same for the other teens who did) and that not allowing it was like "clipping her wings", I disagree. If you really want to do that kind of trip, and...

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by Aesma
Thu May 27, 2010 11:00 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Son Trashes A $180,000 Porsche
Replies: 72
Views: 6493

RE: Son Trashes A $180,000 Porsche

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/N1120A" class="quote" target="_blank">N1120A</a> (<a href="#67" class="quote">Reply 67</a>):<br/><i>How weird. Either the car doesn't have a clu...

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by Aesma
Thu May 27, 2010 10:39 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Slovaks Retaliate Over Hungarian Citizenship Law
Replies: 22
Views: 3543

RE: Slovaks Retaliate Over Hungarian Citizenship Law

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/OA260" class="quote" target="_blank">OA260</a> (<a href="#16" class="quote">Reply 16</a>):<br/><i>The European Union is supposed to be a place w...

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by Aesma
Thu May 27, 2010 10:04 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Son Trashes A $180,000 Porsche
Replies: 72
Views: 6493

RE: Son Trashes A $180,000 Porsche

Well, what do you mean by start ? The engine did give some power to the wheels, the car wouldn't have done that much damage otherwise. It is said in the article that the son didn't try to start it, however, didn't saw that. He wanted to start the stereo, and turned the key too far.

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by Aesma
Thu May 27, 2010 9:39 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Death Panels And Healthcare Rationing: Necessary
Replies: 61
Views: 4236

RE: Death Panels And Healthcare Rationing: Necessary

If you care, I can't even understand how you can stay for months at the side of a former loved one turned vegetable. It should feel terrible. I don't believe in eternal life (not after death, anyway), so yes, you may need some days to come to terms, but after that...

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by Aesma
Thu May 27, 2010 9:12 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 80 Year Old Shoots Burglar In Chicago
Replies: 37
Views: 3634

RE: 80 Year Old Shoots Burglar In Chicago

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/lewis" class="quote" target="_blank">lewis</a> (<a href="#16" class="quote">Reply 16</a>):<br/><i>If you are in immediate danger, will you have ...

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by Aesma
Thu May 27, 2010 7:33 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 80 Year Old Shoots Burglar In Chicago
Replies: 37
Views: 3634

RE: 80 Year Old Shoots Burglar In Chicago

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/fr8mech" class="quote" target="_blank">fr8mech</a> (<a href="#9" class="quote">Reply 9</a>):<br/><i>A follow-up, if I may? If the average citize...

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by Aesma
Thu May 27, 2010 6:55 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Slovaks Retaliate Over Hungarian Citizenship Law
Replies: 22
Views: 3543

RE: Slovaks Retaliate Over Hungarian Citizenship Law

Because there is a way to gain a nationality, and being given it because of your ancestry is not one. There was no problem when it was a Slovak marrying a Hungarian, or even an "ethnic Hungarian" asking it after living X years in Hungary, but offering passports like that is a provocation.

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by Aesma
Thu May 27, 2010 5:36 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Apple Pips Microsoft As World's Biggest
Replies: 78
Views: 3643

RE: Apple Pips Microsoft As World's Biggest

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Ken777" class="quote" target="_blank">Ken777</a> (<a href="#25" class="quote">Reply 25</a>):<br/><i>I hope you aren't assuming that the Windows ...

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by Aesma
Thu May 27, 2010 5:33 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 80 Year Old Shoots Burglar In Chicago
Replies: 37
Views: 3634

80 Year Old Shoots Burglar In Chicago

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Larshjort" class="quote" target="_blank">Larshjort</a> (<a href="#7" class="quote">Reply 7</a>):<br/><i>In Denmark youre allowed to defend yours...

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by Aesma
Thu May 27, 2010 5:26 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Slovaks Retaliate Over Hungarian Citizenship Law
Replies: 22
Views: 3543

RE: Slovaks Retaliate Over Hungarian Citizenship Law

The counter-move is stupid, but the move wasn't that bright either.

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by Aesma
Thu May 27, 2010 5:15 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: I Phone - T-Mobile
Replies: 3
Views: 2088

RE: I Phone - T-Mobile

Roaming is when your phone still works abroad. Oftentimes it will cost an arm to use, however.

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by Aesma
Thu May 27, 2010 4:30 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 80 Year Old Shoots Burglar In Chicago
Replies: 37
Views: 3634

80 Year Old Shoots Burglar In Chicago

Living in a country where guns are banned, I understand the Chicago law, but a law like that cannot work if it's limited to a city.

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by Aesma
Thu May 27, 2010 4:25 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: In-N-Out Coming To Texas!
Replies: 73
Views: 6302

RE: In-N-Out Coming To Texas!

Never heard of In-N-Out. Does the name refers to digestion ?

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by Aesma
Thu May 27, 2010 4:13 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Apple Pips Microsoft As World's Biggest
Replies: 78
Views: 3643

RE: Apple Pips Microsoft As World's Biggest

From the original article : <table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quote:<br/><i>Microsoft, whose operating system runs on more than 90 percent of the world's personal computers</i></font></td></tr></table> Al...

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by Aesma
Wed May 26, 2010 9:50 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Eurovision Oslo 2010- A Shift To The West?
Replies: 83
Views: 6514

RE: Eurovision Oslo 2010- A Shift To The West?

Yeah I read about that. But the semifinals are quite new, too, according to wikipedia.

Being one of the big four doesn't seem to help win the thing, either.

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by Aesma
Wed May 26, 2010 9:15 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Eurovision Oslo 2010- A Shift To The West?
Replies: 83
Views: 6514

RE: Eurovision Oslo 2010- A Shift To The West?

I never knew there was semi-finals, probably because France isn't concerned.

I just saw that they're broadcasted on France 4, a channel almost nobody watch.

The French entry is not the worst we send, but I don't think it'll be enough.

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