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by wjcandee
Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)
Replies: 474
Views: 58190

Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

On a happier note, 411SN is moving again, and 512JN finished up its check at RSW. But 542KD has now been at SDF long enough that there's obviously some issue, keeping 545JN company at SDF while that aircraft is plainly waiting for something significant. And now maybe 415JN will be down for a while, ...

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by wjcandee
Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)
Replies: 474
Views: 58190

Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

To make matters worse for WGN, 415JN made a hasty descent to 10,000 feet just south of Terre Haute today while approaching SDF from ANC. It seems the entire MD11 fleet is destined to be parked at SDF awaiting maintenance. See, that's the thing for me, although I guess their pilots are accustomed to...

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by wjcandee
Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Completely Disobedient Pilot Refuses to Vacate LAS Class B Without Clearance/Argues With ATC
Replies: 46
Views: 14614

Re: Completely Disobedient Pilot Refuses to Vacate LAS Class B Without Clearance/Argues With ATC

Okay, so doing a little research, the business address of the company was in 2019 a Mailboxes and More in Redondo Beach. Next to a Papa Guido's Pizza. Oddly, on the same form, he lists a service of process address as a fairly-modest house in Torrence, although given the real estate prices out there,...

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by wjcandee
Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)
Replies: 474
Views: 58190

Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

So, following up on the smaller-carrier Asia cargo flights. Sky Lease : Still the clear leader for utilization. If one of their two 747-400Fs is on the ground for more than 2 or 3 hours, it's very unusual. Then off to the next destination. Incredible utilization by a carrier that had a reputation as...

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by wjcandee
Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)
Replies: 474
Views: 58190

Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

The AA 763s all have already been retired. And it is correct that all are committed to ATSG, which just flew another one to ILN from ROW yesterday, ahead of sending it to TLV. They're on a pace of about one per month. As far as I know, the DL ones are in storage. One just came out of storage at ILN ...

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by wjcandee
Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - June 2020
Replies: 182
Views: 18390

Re: COVID-19 Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - June 2020

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1200K
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DL 767-300 N1200K will be leaving ILN for JFK tomorrow, 6/26/20. It arrived there on 3/31/20 as part of the group that came to be stored. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1200K

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by wjcandee
Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Kalitta II has a LinkedIn entry showing a picture of them operating a 737-400SF for DHL. That aircraft (N311GT) is listed as being at Southern. Is this another example of aircraft being pulled by partners away from Atlas/Southern and given to other operators? That airplane was transferred on June 1...

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by wjcandee
Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

N7919A started flying some routes today (6/21/20) from/to MSP. As noted above, this is the 6th 737-800BCF running for Amazon by Sun Country. And N448CC, number 7, which is at PAE for conformity, will be renumbered N7901A, if nobody had mentioned that yet. As to whether number 7 will be in service by...

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by wjcandee
Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Well, the aircraft, N301KH is one of four 737-300s that Aloha operates. It flew to the US from Hawaii on 5/29/20 and started the ONT-GSO-ONT turns on 6/2. We know that Aloha is owned by Saltchuk, which owns Northern Air Cargo and other transportation businesses. We know that Aloha's shipping point i...

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by wjcandee
Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Today, 6/19/20, N7919A, formerly N451CC, moved from induction at PAE to MSP as a Sun Country Flight. That's number 6 in service in a little over a month.

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by wjcandee
Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Don't forgt 557CM. All were flying until a month ago. DHL pulled the 757s in the US. They're moving to 737-800s. Those 4 aircraft weren't a small operation when ATI had basically them and the 4 military combis and little else.

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by wjcandee
Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)
Replies: 474
Views: 58190

Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Its called pencil pushing. Sign off the A/C to get it out of the shop. Management forces it so they look good. BUT the FAA should be standing on the managers shoulders watching every move. It was explained to me once that as a mechanic when you sign the log book, your going out on the limb by signi...

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by wjcandee
Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Will Atlas grow their 767 fleet for Amazon anymore? That's up to Amazon. Now that there is, for the moment, a surplus of pilots out there, Atlas shouldn't continue to have the kind of staffing/quality issues that it had that led to Amazon shifting two Atlas-operated aircraft to ATI. Of course, thes...

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by wjcandee
Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

I don't know who it's running for, but ATI's 395CM is on an ILN-HNL-GUM-HKG-GUM-SYD-HKG-... run. I read on a fansite that the GUM-SYD-HKG portion, at least, is going to be twice weekly for over a month. Can't be for DHL, because of the ABX Scope rules, I think. It’s for DHL. ABX’s DHL “domestic 767...

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by wjcandee
Thu Jun 18, 2020 6:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

MajMatt: Thanks for the info. I missed that part about it being limited to domestic.

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by wjcandee
Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

SY has started an efficient cargo operation with no real issues to speak of yet. Flights ahead of time and under budget. My inside scoop says that southern is not happy with sunny, and sunny has shown they currently have the support needed to handle the flying. Amazon is also quite happy with the a...

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by wjcandee
Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

I don't know who it's running for, but ATI's 395CM is on an ILN-HNL-GUM-HKG-GUM-SYD-HKG-... run. I read on a fansite that the GUM-SYD-HKG portion, at least, is going to be twice weekly for over a month. Can't be for DHL, because of the ABX Scope rules, I think.

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by wjcandee
Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What happened to World Airways?
Replies: 38
Views: 6831

Re: What happened to World Airways?

I have fond memories of World as well. Sadly, they were sold to a private equity firm that was trying to put World, ATA and some others together and corner the market in military flying. It didn't work out so well, as the military wasn't going to just deal with one vendor, and if I recall some of th...

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by wjcandee
Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)
Replies: 474
Views: 58190

Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

So on this Western Global thing. What's disconcerting is how things break, are allegedly "fixed", and then the ship breaks again, quickly. I don't know if it's a fair comparison, but I recall all the reporting on the Allegiant shop in Florida while that one was being mismanaged. The Palm B...

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by wjcandee
Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)
Replies: 474
Views: 58190

Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

So a little update on Western Global. As of today, they got 415JN back in service from SHV, and 581JN back in service from ANC. 344KD (747) did hang around ANC for almost a day, but is back flying now. Nothing else (cross-fingers) seems to have broken in the meantime. So, the current totals are: Of ...

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by wjcandee
Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Looks like 449AZ flew to ILN from ROW today after finishing paint. It's already on the ATI ops spec so maybe an early addition? Thought I saw on here that it was projected for July 1st. Yup, that it did. We'll see how fast they actually put it into service. Might be they need to tweak a thing or tw...

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by wjcandee
Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

The Sun Country 737-800BCFs are now all operating under their "A" numbers, as of today, 6/13/20.

N5261A was N547RL
N5683A was N545RL
N5209A was N542RL
N5693A was N547RL (this one was already using its "A" number)

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by wjcandee
Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)
Replies: 474
Views: 58190

Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Just an update on last week's "little carriers" COVID-flights report. Sky Lease continues to keep N903AR and N904AR (Factory 747Fs) running at a remarkable pace. 2-3 hours per stop and then on to the next one, 24/7. National Cargo is close behind with N919CA and N952CA (Converted 747-400s)...

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by wjcandee
Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Boof02671 wrote:
All of AA’s 763s were bought by Jetran.


Which in turn last year sold ATSG subsidiary CAM an option on essentially-all of the ones coming up for retirement (which are now all retired).

Jetran's deal with AA to take all their 767-300s, as they retire, is long-standing.

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by wjcandee
Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EgyptAir 777-300 to EL SALVADOR 09JUN
Replies: 25
Views: 4084

Re: EgyptAir 777-300 to EL SALVADOR 09JUN

Not true at all they have done heavy maintenance on US/AA’s 330s. "Purport to work" means "say they work". They don't "say they work" on anything larger than a 757. Look at their web site. https://mroholdings.com/facilities/aeroman/#our-facilities If they haven't updat...

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by wjcandee
Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EgyptAir 777-300 to EL SALVADOR 09JUN
Replies: 25
Views: 4084

Re: EgyptAir 777-300 to EL SALVADOR 09JUN

FWIW, Aeroman doesn't purport to work on anything bigger than a 757. They are interested in expanding their widebody business, but they have a nice niche and deep experience in the 737/A320 series aircraft. With everything scaled back so dramatically, it could be that they would undertake the chall...

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by wjcandee
Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Sun Country Amazon Prime Air plane #7 is now at PAE as of yesterday. 737-800F N448CC aka N7901A That makes 3 now at PAE going through conformity.. Boy they aren’t holding back are they? I wonder if the plan Pre Covid was to scale up so fast. I have to imagine not, that would be what, a 30% increase...

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by wjcandee
Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Richard Anderson to replace Doug Parker at AA
Replies: 101
Views: 19281

Re: Rumor: Richard Anderson to replace Doug Parker at AA

And they replaced him with the head of Atlas Air. Replacing Parker is another internet wet dream. He put the thing together. He's well in control. And some people like him. If Anderson wanted still to have all the headaches -- I mean "joys" -- of being the CEO of an airline, he would still...

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by wjcandee
Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EgyptAir 777-300 to EL SALVADOR 09JUN
Replies: 25
Views: 4084

Re: EgyptAir 777-300 to EL SALVADOR 09JUN

FWIW, Aeroman doesn't purport to work on anything bigger than a 757. They are interested in expanding their widebody business, but they have a nice niche and deep experience in the 737/A320 series aircraft. With everything scaled back so dramatically, it could be that they would undertake the challe...

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by wjcandee
Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)
Replies: 474
Views: 58190

Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

I've enjoyed reading your informative posts on the "Air Bridge" carriers, wjcandee. Both here and in the Amazon thread. Do you by any chance have an idea on how these smaller carriers stack up against the big 747 operators? It would be interesting to see how the big boys, Atlas, Kalitta, ...

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by wjcandee
Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)
Replies: 474
Views: 58190

Re: Odd flight: GUM-LAX n/s, UA 2797. Anyone with insight shed any details? Currently airborne

airportugal310 wrote:
UA has been flying LAX-GUM-LAX and SFO-GUM-SFO for at least a month now or so. Cargo flights...mostly military related as I understand it


Yeah, but the actual route for this flight, since early May, has been LAX-GUM-PVG-GUM-LAX.

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by wjcandee
Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing 2020 Orders
Replies: 258
Views: 60713

Re: Airbus and Boeing 2020 Orders

Wait. Didn't I see a heated discussion on here to the effect that 747-8s could never again be ordered? Never. That's it. Kaput. Done. Finito. And that some supplier wasn't making any more parts, and, as we hear all the time as regards the 757, that "the tooling had been destroyed"? So it's...

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by wjcandee
Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)
Replies: 474
Views: 58190

Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

China sending freighters to Venezuela: - 05 Jun 2020 Y8 7453 PVG - AMS B747-400F Suparna Airlines B-1340 - 06 Jun 2020 Y8 7470 AMS - CCS B747-400F Suparna Airlines B-1340 - 07 June 2020 Y8 7471 CCS - AMS B747-400F Suparna Airlines B-1340 - 08 June 2020 Y8 7454 AMS - PVG B747-400F Suparna Airlines B...

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by wjcandee
Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

What percentage of Amazon deliveries are handled in-house as opposed to an outside delivery company (i.e. UPS or the Post Office or Ontrac)? I know this is a hard question to answer (what do you measure, items, deliveries, weight, volume, mileage?), but I am curious as to the general magnitude of P...

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by wjcandee
Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

What percentage of Amazon deliveries are handled in-house as opposed to an outside delivery company (i.e. UPS or the Post Office or Ontrac)? I know this is a hard question to answer (what do you measure, items, deliveries, weight, volume, mileage?), but I am curious as to the general magnitude of P...

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by wjcandee
Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)
Replies: 474
Views: 58190

Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

I did a little more research and thinking about my post above overnight. I think National's utilization over the period, which is still very high, suffers a bit from the fact that they still get called on military flights, which is a big part of their business during normal times. Those necessarily ...

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by wjcandee
Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)
Replies: 474
Views: 58190

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Just a quick update on a tangential issue: the performance of the little carriers that have stepped up to bring PPE to the US (like Amazon did on one flight) and to help pick up the absence of belly space on now-idled passenger airliners for air freight generally. It has been interesting to watch, a...

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by wjcandee
Sat Jun 06, 2020 6:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will Amazon eventually own ASTG?
Replies: 22
Views: 3167

Re: Will Amazon eventually own ASTG?

Does anyone have a link or a source regarding the FAA forcing UPS to become a certificated air carrier? I keep hearing this mentioned but have never seen a reliable printed source describing how this occurred. That's because it never happened. It's a myth propagated by, and dream of, certain unions...

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by wjcandee
Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kalitta 737 off runway in ROC
Replies: 15
Views: 5365

Re: Airplane off runway in ROC

FWIW, the aircraft HAD landed and unloaded the part of its load from CVG that was getting off in ROC, and it was on its takeoff roll on its flight to BDL, where it unloads the balance of stuff and typically rests until making the reverse trek BDL-ROC-CVG at night. Form the ROC web cam, it looks like...

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by wjcandee
Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Sun Country is about to fly the first revenue flight of N5693A (formerly N543RL) today, 6/5/20. That will be 737-800BCF number 4 for Sun Country, and the first to start work with an "A" tail number. It has been just under a month since Sun Country had the first revenue flight of its first ...

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by wjcandee
Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will Amazon eventually own ASTG?
Replies: 22
Views: 3167

Re: Will Amazon eventually own ASTG?

Also, with respect to the beneficial ownership of shares reported because that's what the SEC requires, I believe that the option agreements have been amended so that the exercise price of the warrants is adjusted so that Amazon never has "beneficial ownership" of more than 4.9 percent of ...

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by wjcandee
Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will Amazon eventually own ASTG?
Replies: 22
Views: 3167

Re: Will Amazon eventually own ASTG?

Forcing Amazon to get a certificate is a Teamsters wet dream. It's not going to happen, the UPS story is not what they say it is, and DHL would have to go first.

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by wjcandee
Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Maybe they are getting more. IDK. SOO was having staffing issues. The reason Amazon approached Sun Country Not only couldn't they staff it, they couldn't manage it either. And the pilots they could hire were often inexperienced and needed to build time in the right seat in order even minimally to q...

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by wjcandee
Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Amazon Air called "2020's Transportation Juggernaut." Nice outline of operations for the rapidly growing Amazon subsidiary at link. https://www.newgeography.com/content/006662-amazon-air-2020s-transportation-juggernaut Thank you for sharing that article!! It is very interesting. Indeed, i...

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by wjcandee
Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Amerijet has been operating a flight in and out of SMF. It’s a PHL-SMF-PHL run. I heard they were doing USPS. Maybe the ramp lead was mistaken? A ramp lead in SMF mentioned to me that ATI’s flights for Amazon out of there are carrying USPS mail. Did I miss something or has that been announced? Hadn...

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by wjcandee
Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

A ramp lead in SMF mentioned to me that ATI’s flights for Amazon out of there are carrying USPS mail. Did I miss something or has that been announced? Hadn't heard about that. Are we sure that it's not Parcel Direct stuff, where Amazon packages are delivered in the last mile by the Postal Service? ...

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by wjcandee
Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Perhaps some of the recently accelerated pax 767 retirements due to COVID (AA, AC) will find new life as freighters. ATSG (CAM), which also owns ATI and ABX Air, already has purchase rights to all of the retired AA 767-300s. Bought them last year sometime. I imagine only some of those are part of t...

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by wjcandee
Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Amazon is adding another dozen 767-300s, to be leased from ATSG. https://press.aboutamazon.com/news-releases/news-release-details/amazon-air-expands-aircraft-fleet I'm actually a little confused by the press release, because there were 5 already to be delivered this year. To say that one of the new...

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by wjcandee
Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1004
Views: 116659

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

BlueLineORD wrote:
Perhaps some of the recently accelerated pax 767 retirements due to COVID (AA, AC) will find new life as freighters.


ATSG (CAM), which also owns ATI and ABX Air, already has purchase rights to all of the retired AA 767-300s. Bought them last year sometime.

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