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by bhxdtw
Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Gulf Air Targeting New Markets : ZRH And PVG
Replies: 16
Views: 4811

RE: Gulf Air Targeting New Markets : ZRH And PVG

howv did <acronym title="Sydney - Kingsford Smith International (Mascot) (SYD / YSSY), Australia - New South Wales">SYD</acronym> not work ?? I thought that was a popular route ??? well.. i guess if the yield wasnt good... i mean.. i know it was popular with people from here looking for cheap Y to O...

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by bhxdtw
Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MaxJet And EOS
Replies: 35
Views: 6472

RE: MaxJet And EOS

Doubt Branson would be looking domestically... should he do that then he would have to look at two types of eqpt with 2 kinds of business product... for example... say Branson starts with a fleet of <acronym title="Bitburg (BBJ / EDRB) (closed), Germany">BBJ</acronym>'s ... maybe 737's or 787's ... ...

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by bhxdtw
Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FlyBE Admits Staffing Problems
Replies: 17
Views: 3058

RE: FlyBE Admits Staffing Problems

Give it some time and things will iron out.. honestly.. Flybe has just taken a heck of a lot of new routes on and the whole BACON thing was no small deal.. give them a bit of time and some more acft and im sure they'll get back on top... I remember when Flybe (British European and before that Jersey...

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by bhxdtw
Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BHX News 2007
Replies: 58
Views: 5062

RE: BHX News 2007

I used to work at <acronym title="Birmingham - International (Elmdon) (BHX / EGBB), United Kingdom">BHX</acronym>... unfortunatley I didnt see the show.. (if anyone knows a link where I can see it online Id appreciate it) I heard that it covered a lot on ICTS ? Well, back in say 2002.. when I last w...

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by bhxdtw
Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MaxJet And EOS
Replies: 35
Views: 6472

RE: MaxJet And EOS

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by bhxdtw
Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Aer Lingus Base In BFS?
Replies: 9
Views: 3958

RE: New Aer Lingus Base In BFS?

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by bhxdtw
Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MaxJet And EOS
Replies: 35
Views: 6472

RE: MaxJet And EOS

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by bhxdtw
Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MaxJet And EOS
Replies: 35
Views: 6472

RE: MaxJet And EOS

How about a comparioson with silverjet ?
Britains offering ?....
Im flying with them in August and im quite interested to here of what load factors they have been having ?

j

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by bhxdtw
Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Aer Lingus Base In BFS?
Replies: 9
Views: 3958

RE: New Aer Lingus Base In BFS?

Wasnt there some talk of them using bhx as a hub ?

joe

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by bhxdtw
Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BHX News 2007
Replies: 58
Views: 5062

RE: BHX News 2007

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by bhxdtw
Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SilverJet Update - 2 Extra 767-200ER To Join Fleet
Replies: 3
Views: 3709

RE: SilverJet Update - 2 Extra 767-200ER To Join Fleet

Im flying with them in August and so cant wait !! It should be interesting. Have flown <acronym title="Virgin Atlantic Airways (United Kingdom)">VS</acronym>/BA in Upper/Club... but never one one of the new all business class start ups. Im really looking forward to it... no pics in the db yet of the...

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by bhxdtw
Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Foreign Airline Crew Based At LHR
Replies: 54
Views: 11450

RE: Foreign Airline Crew Based At LHR

Im going to apply for a position with one of the foreign carriers out of <acronym title="London - Heathrow (LHR / EGLL), United Kingdom">LHR</acronym>, I live about an hour and half north of Heathrow.. That shouldnt be an issue should it ????? I know it sounds crazy especially when you have people c...

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by bhxdtw
Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BHX News 2007
Replies: 58
Views: 5062

RE: BHX News 2007

Anyone know the loads generally on the AI services ??
any idea if they could upgrade this to a 744 service ??... not likely I know..

also any new news on the runway extension ??

Joe

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by bhxdtw
Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BHX News 2007
Replies: 58
Views: 5062

RE: BHX News 2007

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by bhxdtw
Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Foreign Airline Crew Based At LHR
Replies: 54
Views: 11450

RE: Foreign Airline Crew Based At LHR

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by bhxdtw
Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Personal Flight Stats Website.. Help Needed
Replies: 1
Views: 2927

Personal Flight Stats Website.. Help Needed

Hi guys.. this was discussed recently but I cant seem to find it.. can someone tell me what website it is that you can document all your flights you have taken.. information which it will store for you and give you stats on.... I used it a while ago and cant find the name of it... Thanx !! j  <...

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by bhxdtw
Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BHX News 2007
Replies: 58
Views: 5062

RE: BHX News 2007

When did <acronym title="Ryanair (Ireland)">FR</acronym> operate anything else other than <acronym title="Dublin (- Collinstown) (DUB / EIDW), Ireland">DUB</acronym> ?? I didnt thik they had any other services than that .. ?? Hasnt <acronym title="OLD: Sabena (Belgium), NEW: SN Brussels Airlines (Be...

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by bhxdtw
Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Foreign Airline Crew Based At LHR
Replies: 54
Views: 11450

RE: Foreign Airline Crew Based At LHR

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by bhxdtw
Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: L-500 Airliner: Why A Failure?
Replies: 37
Views: 15145

RE: L-500 Airliner: Why A Failure?

Found this...
thought you may appreciate the read.. its from '68


Joe

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,712157,00.html

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by bhxdtw
Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Foreign Airline Crew Based At LHR
Replies: 54
Views: 11450

RE: Foreign Airline Crew Based At LHR

actually QF are recruiting now for UK crew..
How many cruise flights do they usually operate from the UK ?

Thanks for the link too..

J  Smile

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by bhxdtw
Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Foreign Airline Crew Based At LHR
Replies: 54
Views: 11450

RE: Foreign Airline Crew Based At LHR

Any idea of the work patterns for <acronym title="Air New Zealand">NZ</acronym> crew for instance ? like I mean.. how long would they spend in <acronym title="CURRENT: Hong Kong - Chek Lap Kok International (HKG / VHHH), China - Hong Kong AND OLD: Hong Kong - Kai Tak International (HKG / VHHH) (clos...

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by bhxdtw
Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Foreign Airline Crew Based At LHR
Replies: 54
Views: 11450

Foreign Airline Crew Based At LHR

Hi guys.. I was just wondering.. a number of foreign airlines base crew at <acronym title="London - Heathrow (LHR / EGLL), United Kingdom">LHR</acronym>.. i.e <acronym title="Cathay Pacific (China-Hong Kong)">CX</acronym>, <acronym title="All-Nippon Airways (Japan)">NH</acronym>, <acronym title="Air...

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by bhxdtw
Fri May 25, 2007 9:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM. AMS-LHR. Which Widybody Is Used?
Replies: 7
Views: 2987

RE: KLM. AMS-LHR. Which Widybody Is Used?

timetable for 330 ops.. .....6. <acronym title="London - Heathrow (LHR / EGLL), United Kingdom">LHR</acronym> <acronym title="Amsterdam - Schiphol (AMS / EHAM), Netherlands">AMS</acronym> 0955 1215 KL1008 332 12.4..7 <acronym title="London - Heathrow (LHR / EGLL), United Kingdom">LHR</acronym> <acro...

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by bhxdtw
Thu May 24, 2007 8:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Possible Disruption At LHR
Replies: 20
Views: 3356

RE: Possible Disruption At LHR

do you have a source for this ??

j

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by bhxdtw
Thu May 24, 2007 8:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New AA Routes
Replies: 58
Views: 10176

RE: New AA Routes

Any news on <acronym title="American Airlines (USA)">AA</acronym> services into the UK regions ? i.e a return to <acronym title="Birmingham - International (Elmdon) (BHX / EGBB), United Kingdom">BHX</acronym> but this time from <acronym title="New York - John F. Kennedy International (Idlewild) (JFK...

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by bhxdtw
Fri May 11, 2007 5:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OS/Austrian Returns To JFK After Smoke In Cockpit
Replies: 0
Views: 4013

OS/Austrian Returns To JFK After Smoke In Cockpit

(Didnt see this posted or in search) Austria Austria, U.S.: Austria bound jet makes forced return to John F. Kennedy Airport 11-May-2007 01:52:19 <acronym title="Aeromexico">AM</acronym> (GMT) Related to: United States <acronym title="New Orleans - Lakefront (NEW / KNEW), USA - Louisiana">NEW</acron...

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by bhxdtw
Thu May 10, 2007 9:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: RFD-FNT-TOL -A Comparison - All Near A Hub
Replies: 31
Views: 3588

RE: RFD-FNT-TOL -A Comparison - All Near A Hub

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by bhxdtw
Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:20 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Globemaster At BHX Now!
Replies: 1
Views: 2402

Globemaster At BHX Now!

Hi guys.. On the Hagley road in Birmingham and a Boeing Globemaster just flew over on the way into <acronym title="Birmingham - International (Elmdon) (BHX / EGBB), United Kingdom">BHX</acronym> I think.. Anyone who wants a view I guess it should drop in about 10 minutes or less.. My first thought i...

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by bhxdtw
Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Around The World On Narrow Body Acft
Replies: 19
Views: 5093

Around The World On Narrow Body Acft

Hi guys... was just wondering if this is possible: to go from London, around the world, on scheduled commercial services, on narrow body aircraft.. for instance, I noticed you could fly from <acronym title="Birmingham - International (Elmdon) (BHX / EGBB), United Kingdom">BHX</acronym> to <acronym t...

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by bhxdtw
Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada Offers Trip On New 777 For GBP.77.70!
Replies: 24
Views: 8705

RE: Air Canada Offers Trip On New 777 For GBP.77.70!

I got it this morning...
is plus tax though... which heaven knows aint cheap nowwadays..

anyway, im thinking of booking it...

Joe  Smile

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by bhxdtw
Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EK To Shift One DUS Flight To CGN...?
Replies: 15
Views: 3283

RE: EK To Shift One DUS Flight To CGN...?

How about HAJ ? Could that sustain a 330 op ?

joe

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by bhxdtw
Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Did Eastern Operate This Aircraft?
Replies: 22
Views: 13360

Why Did Eastern Operate This Aircraft?

Anyone know why Eastern used to operate this aircraft ? Im sure someone will know.. Cheers Joe  <img src="/discussions/graphics/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile"> <br><center><font color="#EEEEEE" size="1" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva"><a href="/open.file/1185708/L/" target="_blank">View Large</...

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by bhxdtw
Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:41 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Foreign Air Bases In The USA
Replies: 34
Views: 24052

RE: Foreign Air Bases In The USA

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by bhxdtw
Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BHX Runway Issues
Replies: 24
Views: 3891

RE: BHX Runway Issues

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by bhxdtw
Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BHX Runway Issues
Replies: 24
Views: 3891

RE: BHX Runway Issues

Lounge space has been increased in recent months.. This having been said the old pier (door D i think) needs to be demolished.. its the main international pier in T1 but the system they have going is truly dreadful. The newer gates that the irish flts depart off are a lot nicer (door A) and I have s...

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by bhxdtw
Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NWA To Retire 747s?
Replies: 46
Views: 10315

RE: NWA To Retire 747s?

Hey, just slightly off topic but where are the 742's based and what routes do they fly now ? are they all in the far east or do some do some internal US runs ? do you get any at <acronym title="Amsterdam - Schiphol (AMS / EHAM), Netherlands">AMS</acronym> / <acronym title="Memphis - International (M...

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by bhxdtw
Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:34 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Memories To Treasure And Exciting Times Ahead!
Replies: 1
Views: 3362

Memories To Treasure And Exciting Times Ahead!

Hi guys.. This isnt a poll or anything but saturday, me and my brother saw something that read: 'the golden age of aviation'.. This got us thinking.. what really is/was the golden age of aviation ?? I mean.. if you look at the 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's and today... each decade has an import...

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by bhxdtw
Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BHX Runway Issues
Replies: 24
Views: 3891

RE: BHX Runway Issues

COntinental used to operate the DC-10 into <acronym title="Birmingham - International (Elmdon) (BHX / EGBB), United Kingdom">BHX</acronym> to <acronym title="Newark - Liberty International (EWR / KEWR), USA - New Jersey">EWR</acronym>. American used to operate the 762 / 763 to <acronym title="Chicag...

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by bhxdtw
Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ze Germans Invade Las Vegas!
Replies: 47
Views: 9825

RE: Ze Germans Invade Las Vegas!

Post the pics !!!!!

gotta lurve that A346 !!!!!!

J

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by bhxdtw
Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any Airliner Ordered B777-300 Non ER?
Replies: 38
Views: 5481

RE: Any Airliner Ordered B777-300 Non ER?

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by bhxdtw
Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:55 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Foreign Air Bases In The USA
Replies: 34
Views: 24052

RE: Foreign Air Bases In The USA

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by bhxdtw
Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Walking To LHR Terminal 4?!?!?!?
Replies: 6
Views: 2747

Walking To LHR Terminal 4?!?!?!?

Can anyone tell me if you can walk between terminal 4 and terminal 123

Sorry for the urgency !!


Joe

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by bhxdtw
Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:54 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Foreign Air Bases In The USA
Replies: 34
Views: 24052

RE: Foreign Air Bases In The USA

So is this because the US dont allow foreigners on their soil as such.. I mean... for instance... and this is purely hypothetical.. what would the US say if Russia or Japan wanted to have a base on US soil (inc Alaska, Hawaii and Guam... not including Iraq...haha Just joking) Ok maybe those 2 exampl...

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by bhxdtw
Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:58 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Foreign Air Bases In The USA
Replies: 34
Views: 24052

Foreign Air Bases In The USA

Hi guys...

just was wondering,

how many foreign countries have air bases in the USA ??
Also, the same question goes to how many countries does the US have air bases in ??

Joe

 Smile

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by bhxdtw
Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 12 Airports Closed In Russia
Replies: 0
Views: 2405

12 Airports Closed In Russia

Hi guys, Just received this... Havent seen it posted anywhere before.. ******** Twelve airports have been closed in Russia Details: Prosecutor-General Yuriy Chayka said that previously revealed violations, primarily relating to safety, had not been eliminated at the airports, located in Myachkovo [M...

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by bhxdtw
Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: VIE With 10 New Airlines By Summerschedule 2007
Replies: 8
Views: 4074

RE: VIE With 10 New Airlines By Summerschedule 2007

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by bhxdtw
Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Estonian Air New Aircraft And Routes Announced
Replies: 19
Views: 5874

RE: Estonian Air New Aircraft And Routes Announced

Dont think that they are obliged to build a lounge... I can think of a few airports that airlines with a business class product or who have pax with high tier FQTV cards fly too...

Joe

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by bhxdtw
Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Estonian Air New Aircraft And Routes Announced
Replies: 19
Views: 5874

RE: Estonian Air New Aircraft And Routes Announced

HAHAHA.... I didnt read the SAAB 340 delivery part properly and read only that <acronym title="Estonian Air">OV</acronym> will be using the 340 from URE to <acronym title="Stockholm - Arlanda (ARN / ESSA), Sweden">ARN</acronym>.... 1st thought: GREAT !! <acronym title="Estonian Air">OV</acronym> get...

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by bhxdtw
Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Help Identifying An Airport
Replies: 8
Views: 2926

RE: Help Identifying An Airport

How long before FR announce routes from their ??  Wink haha

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by bhxdtw
Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any Chance Gulf Air Operating To MAN?
Replies: 10
Views: 3832

RE: Any Chance Gulf Air Operating To MAN?

I doubt it... I would guess that Gulf Traveller would if anything ... but then they said they would start <acronym title="Birmingham - International (Elmdon) (BHX / EGBB), United Kingdom">BHX</acronym> and where did that go ? I think <acronym title="Manchester - International (Ringway) (MAN / EGCC),...

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