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by Dalmd88
Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly
Replies: 1195
Views: 260880

Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

From everything I remember reading about AA's final MD-80 flight, it sounded like it was a party-like atmosphere onboard so I think you should cut them some slack for getting excited and having some fun. Sure, when I look back my younger days there's probably some instances where I maybe didn't act...

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by Dalmd88
Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why no second commercial airport for Atlanta?
Replies: 115
Views: 13541

Re: Why no second commercial airport for Atlanta?

So lets do the round up of the possible locations and the back story Fulton Co Airport, "Charlie Brown". West side of downtown just outside of I285 along !20, Marta (mass transit) could easily be extended to it. Downsides, it's small and land locked. River, I20, large hill near by. It has ...

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by Dalmd88
Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly
Replies: 1195
Views: 260880

Re: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly

A few questions on the MD88 fleet.... - Why were 901, 902, 903 removed in 2007 / 2008? Were they thinking about removing more then? - Was any of the fleet ever put into storage (e.g., post-9/11 or 2008/2009 global recession)? - How many interior refresh or replacements did they get over their lifec...

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by Dalmd88
Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly
Replies: 1195
Views: 260880

Re: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly

At this moment, with 1 MD-88 and 3 MD-90s still waiting to be moved into the Historic column in the planespotters.net database, DL's avg fleet age is 14.6 years. There's still a lot of old aircraft (A320s at 24.8 years, the oldest of subfleets now), and with 844 remaining active aircraft it takes a...

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by Dalmd88
Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future of the MD-80
Replies: 39
Views: 5794

Re: Future of the MD-80

Hence why the start of my post said look at the 727 fleet. But it depends on how many opperate. 727 and DC-9 engine overhaul continued until at least 2015. The JT-8D overhauls stopped not much later. The issue is the MD-80 retirement shut down the engine overhaul market. Other parts with life we ca...

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by Dalmd88
Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:15 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Maintaining a bare metal / polished aluminum finish
Replies: 10
Views: 1954

Re: Maintaining a bare metal / polished aluminum finish

A long time ago I worked an ANG contract for Metros. The wings on these were bare and every six months per the contract we had to buff the wings. We had a twin handheld orbital buffer, driven by compressed air. Very similar to the electric ones car detailers use on paint. We used Meguiar's Mirror Gl...

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by Dalmd88
Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
Views: 381035

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

At any airline with multiple fleet types but especially so with those that have many, moving pilots backwards in positions is limited by their training capacity. Only so many simulator events can be done in a month. There are only so many instructors. There are only so many check airmen. Some of bo...

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by Dalmd88
Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future of the MD-80
Replies: 39
Views: 5794

Re: Future of the MD-80

Aero Thrust in MIA still has an active JT8D shop for the MD80 series engines. They were providing DL with power by the hour lease engines after DL shut their own shop. It was two years ago BTW, almost to the day. Last overhaul was 5/23/2018. The shop has still been in hospital mode with a few guys t...

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by Dalmd88
Sun May 31, 2020 2:00 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: No bare aluminum on retro livery aircraft
Replies: 10
Views: 2291

Re: No bare aluminum on retro livery aircraft

Was there any kind of clear coat over the bare metal on the original liveries, or was it just bare polished aluminum? It was just polished frequently. It takes a lot of work to maintain bare AL. Like others have said, once it gets painted it is very hard to make it look good again. For the retro li...

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by Dalmd88
Sat May 30, 2020 1:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS / FDX / Atlas scheduled vs charter % ?
Replies: 26
Views: 2499

Re: UPS / FDX / Atlas scheduled vs charter % ?

I would think most of UPS and FedEx is scheduled.

Atlas on the other hand is likely higher on the chartered cargo work. I believe they do a lot of consolidated freight work on regular scheduled flights with greater mix of chartered than the other two.

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by Dalmd88
Fri May 29, 2020 11:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United announces Voluntary Separation Program
Replies: 55
Views: 14221

Re: United announces Voluntary Separation Program

Imagine any airline doing lifetime retirement pass benefits for anyone who is laid off if they are not even near retirement age, that would be an interesting option and I would jump on that if I were in an airline, if I had plenty of years still to go. There are problems with a 30,000 person airlin...

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by Dalmd88
Fri May 29, 2020 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United announces Voluntary Separation Program
Replies: 55
Views: 14221

Re: United announces Voluntary Separation Program

Does anybody have what DL and AA is offering? The benifits? DL early Retirement: 10 year min seniority 70 pts age/seniority 2 years paid healthcare, employee and all current covered dependents Retirement Medical Account-$100,000-150,000 to be used for any not covered medical expenses (similar to HS...

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by Dalmd88
Thu May 28, 2020 9:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
Views: 381035

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

It’s a great offer, if you need the medical. I don’t need the medical. It would have been nice to have an option of opting out of any medical and having that added to the severance pay out. The RMA is valued at 150,000 I believe. Seeing I don’t need that, the two years of medical/dental/etc or COBR...

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by Dalmd88
Thu May 28, 2020 5:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
Views: 381035

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

So, the enhanced retiree package (age+ yrs service =70) is basically about 6 months of severance pay, 8 positive space tickets, 6 special retiree flight listings, above regular retirees but below active employees. 1 year normal flight privileges. 2 years medical/dental/vision. I know i'm missing a ...

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by Dalmd88
Wed May 27, 2020 1:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Swift Air loses part of vertical stabilizer in flight.
Replies: 41
Views: 10173

Re: Swift Air loses part of vertical stabilizer in flight.

The fairing is not a critical part. I don't think the plane can be dispatched with out one through the CDL as you can with flap fairings. Yes, it's a major mistake but not likely to result in hull loss. I believe that is the definition of critical part. I know in our GMM flight critical parts requir...

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by Dalmd88
Tue May 26, 2020 12:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
Views: 381035

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

In regards to Delta's near future. All the airlines are doing their best to survive. I find it interesting that DAL employees-non pilots are under the impression that they are sitting well and will be just a little smaller. No financial hardship to come, and believe that they will be just fine and ...

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by Dalmd88
Sun May 24, 2020 2:45 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Parking airliners. question?
Replies: 5
Views: 1333

Re: Parking airliners. question?

Short term storage the planes get an engine run with all systems operated I think once a week. Tires are serviced every week just like normal. Aircraft tires really bleed down a lot quicker than automotive tires so a weekly air up is normal. They use Nitrogen, but not for the silly reasons car place...

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by Dalmd88
Sun May 24, 2020 2:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 763
Views: 123056

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

HOW can these airlines be so short sighted? This global emergency WILL eventually end and travel/tourism WILL resume around the world. Just be patient for crying out loud!! Just be patient? :o Just be patient while bleeding tens of millions every single day. Just be patient while paying thousands o...

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by Dalmd88
Sat May 23, 2020 8:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 763
Views: 123056

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

This shows that DL would like to sell the most seats carry as much cargo as they can without having to block anything in the event of a bad day. If anyone remembers the 77L stopped for a few more than a few times this winter, so its not immune. I challenge anyone to name a more challenging ULH rout...

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by Dalmd88
Fri May 22, 2020 2:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Swift Air loses part of vertical stabilizer in flight.
Replies: 41
Views: 10173

Re: Swift Air loses part of vertical stabilizer in flight.

That forward fairing is really big and kind of heavy. I always hated installing that. If I recall it has six bolts coming up from inside the cabin and a row of screws at the stab joint maybe?

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by Dalmd88
Thu May 21, 2020 6:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 763
Views: 123056

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

I think the plan was all along to dump the 777 and replace it with the 350. They just were not expecting to do it right now. It was going to happen once most of the 350 fleet was on property. That's why there was an investment in the new interiors. The 777 was going to keep going but likely not go t...

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by Dalmd88
Mon May 18, 2020 12:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 763
Views: 123056

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

When I used to work for Delta, at the time they were shipping the Trent engines to AA to get refurbished. Surely this factored into the decision too, i.e. not in Delta's interest at all to provide revenue to a direct competitor. AMR closed the Alliance Rolls shop years ago. Delta bought a bunch of ...

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by Dalmd88
Sun May 17, 2020 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 763
Views: 123056

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

The common thread here is the shock of the 777 fleet being retired, Remember something Ed said, We will be retiring any planes or fleets that are within five years of retirement. That to me say the days for the 777 fleet were numbered way back in January. We just did not know it yet. I bet the Latam...

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by Dalmd88
Sat May 16, 2020 6:08 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Aircraft Maintenance?
Replies: 2
Views: 848

Re: Aircraft Maintenance?

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Just a little search will give you some answers to a common question.
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by Dalmd88
Sat May 16, 2020 2:07 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: engine derivatives
Replies: 8
Views: 1612

Re: engine derivatives

I would bet the core is pretty much the same size, I work the Trent 1000 and we are preparing for Trent xwb work. I have not seen a XWB torn down yet, but I have seen the completed engine up close. These two are pretty much the same as the two GE's in use. The core between the two Rolls products are...

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by Dalmd88
Sat May 16, 2020 1:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 763
Views: 123056

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

Watch UPS offer Delta a sweet deal on the 777 and we convert them to 777F. Just like Delta MD-11. UPS has NO 777 aircraft. I can't see UPS buying any of Delta's 777. Also why does Delta have a mix of Rolls Royce and GE powered 777? The way I seem to see it as they are following NO special pattern a...

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by Dalmd88
Thu May 14, 2020 5:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Will Have 7,000 Extra Pilots in Fall
Replies: 176
Views: 23850

Re: DL Will Have 7,000 Extra Pilots in Fall

You don't know what you're talking about. They aren't furloughing 7000 pilots. Or... ...we will be overstaffed by more than 7,000 pilots. I recognize that is an alarming⁷ number so it’s important to know that our intent is to align staffing for what we need over the long term. By the third quarter ...

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by Dalmd88
Thu May 14, 2020 5:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 763
Views: 123056

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

It really makes sense as they can eliminate a whole type, which the 767. fleet is to large to do that. It also gets rid of two odd ball engines in the WB fleet. This should bring DL to a total of 4 engine types for WB with a couple variants of a couple of them. PW 4060 PW 4168 GE CF6 RR Trent True,...

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by Dalmd88
Wed May 13, 2020 3:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA planning layoffs but not AA, DL etc..?
Replies: 110
Views: 15032

Re: UA planning layoffs but not AA, DL etc..?

Hopefully they're not only based on seniortiy. I have had many junior employees provide much better service than senior employees. hope they take into account the performence of the employee along with seniority. I have had some really poor service from senior employees. Really odd how in the airli...

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by Dalmd88
Tue May 12, 2020 3:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta 757 hard landing this morning at Azores PDL
Replies: 195
Views: 74009

Re: Delta 757 hard landing this morning at Azores PDL

STT757 wrote:
Will this aircraft be retired now?

I highly doubt it will be retired soon. It just came out of H check. It may be temp parked currently. Candidates for retirement are aircraft that are due a major check in the near future.

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by Dalmd88
Tue May 12, 2020 12:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta 321 neo status
Replies: 23
Views: 6017

Re: Delta 321 neo status

Now that the B757 are parked and where they could stay for somtime, it could be costly to put them back in service. Them more reason to replace them when times get better. Unless, I completely missed something, DL has not parked nor as made any internal/rumored announcements of parking the 757s. On...

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by Dalmd88
Mon May 11, 2020 7:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly
Replies: 1195
Views: 260880

Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

maybe I'll get to fly on one before then (but looks like probably not). As someone who is based in the MKE area, the scarcity of flights makes it logistically difficult if not impossible to pull off one last trip on the MD-88s/90s without having to spend a night in ATL or elsewhere. I had planned t...

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by Dalmd88
Sat May 09, 2020 6:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
Views: 381035

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

DL has been into and out of MHT numerous times over the years. My Mom has lived in Manchester for 30 years. She used to travel a lot of work before she retired. Most of her flights were out of BOS. Yes it sucks airports like this are seeing a drop in service. Many of these stations were marginal in ...

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by Dalmd88
Sat May 09, 2020 1:13 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Scrapping of Aircraft with Depleted Uranium Counterweights
Replies: 12
Views: 2437

Re: Scrapping of Aircraft with Depleted Uranium Counterweights

:checkmark: Aside from the radioactivity (which is not an issue with DU), uranium is still a heavy metal and it is quite poisonous. Got it. So if you added it to a bomb and detonated, this would spread out the nasty stuff, which would become less hazardous due to smaller concentrations? There were ...

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by Dalmd88
Fri May 08, 2020 8:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020
Replies: 451
Views: 93209

Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Right now it really comes down to which aircraft have just come out of the heavy checks. Those are the ones that will be flying the most in the coming months.Without knowing that it is very hard to guess which will be flying what. Another factor is cargo. There is still a cargo market. There are a b...

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by Dalmd88
Fri May 08, 2020 1:55 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Scrapping of Aircraft with Depleted Uranium Counterweights
Replies: 12
Views: 2437

Re: Scrapping of Aircraft with Depleted Uranium Counterweights

DU counterweights were common in a few aircraft of that era. The disposed of DU chunks were real popular with aircraft sheetmetal mechanics for use as rivet bucking bars. That is until it was suspected that the hammering on the bars would give off a poisonous dust. At our hangar in ATL Delta made pe...

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by Dalmd88
Sat May 02, 2020 7:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly
Replies: 1195
Views: 260880

Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

NWAESC wrote:
Are the Tech Ops Town Halls on DLNet or SkyHub?

SkyHub under Techops happenings. Thursdays at 11am.

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by Dalmd88
Fri May 01, 2020 2:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly
Replies: 1195
Views: 260880

Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

There is way TOO MUCH speculation here about Delta retiring the MD-88 and MD-90 aircraft. I think the chapter needs to stop. The MD-88s were going to be retired this year so Delta might as well retire them earlier this year. Delta might as well move up the MD-90 retirement as they were planning on ...

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by Dalmd88
Fri May 01, 2020 1:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: QR 787/a350 ground incident
Replies: 53
Views: 10834

Re: QR 787/a350 ground incident

The damage on the a350 could be substantial given the angle of the impact. How difficult of a fix is the likely to be given the composite construction involved? Would be more concerned with the 787 where it hit there is a lot of avionics and front pressure bulkhead. There is a video of the incident...

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by Dalmd88
Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: DL looking to trade 717s for 737 Max
Replies: 365
Views: 63464

Re: Rumor: DL looking to trade 717s for 737 Max

Here is the scoop on the seats issue. Delta is not buying any new seats in the imminent future. Currently there is ONE aircraft mod program going forward. The A220 mod program. I would guess that if this virus doesn't turn around soon the 717 could get parked over this seat issue. It doesn't matter ...

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by Dalmd88
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly
Replies: 1195
Views: 260880

Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

MD90 and the 717 are the next to go. The seat issue is a huge cost right now. There is ZERO capital spending for the foreseeable future. And when it comes back seats for those two fleets will not be at the front of the line. Engine costs for the V2500D5 is not going to come down. Those other shops t...

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by Dalmd88
Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:11 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Anti-ice system JT8D engine
Replies: 6
Views: 2393

Re: Anti-ice system JT8D engine

First is which anti-ice valve? Is it a fuel anti ice problem? Or is it an inlet anti ice problem? There are four nearly identical anti ice valves on the JT8D-219. The fuel anti ice valve is special. That p/n can go in any of the four locations but the only that p/n is allowed in the fuel position. I...

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by Dalmd88
Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: DL looking to trade 717s for 737 Max
Replies: 365
Views: 63464

Re: Rumor: DL looking to trade 717s for 737 Max

"So what I see missing from the above is a LEAP engine overhaul and GEnX (787) engine overhaul. However, since the BR715 engine shop is new, I'm not thinking DL is eager to remove the fleet type. However, if CFM is offering both LEAP-1A and -1B overhaul rights... it is plausible. I just do not ...

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by Dalmd88
Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: DL looking to trade 717s for 737 Max
Replies: 365
Views: 63464

Re: Rumor: DL looking to trade 717s for 737 Max

I've been saying all along. As soon as the MD88/90 exit the 717 is going very shortly. This is all about shedding airplanes you don't need right now that are costing you money to park.

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by Dalmd88
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MoL - leaving middle seat empty " idiotic "
Replies: 79
Views: 11532

Re: Motormouth MoL - leaving middle seat empty " idiotic "

When you are stuck in a confined tube breathing in recirculated air unable to get away it really doesn’t matter how far apart you are from your fellow passengers. If one of them is sick you are at high risk of being infected. Similar reason as to why things like cruise ships, aircraft carriers, pri...

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by Dalmd88
Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:41 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Using passenger aircraft as freighters during this crisis
Replies: 20
Views: 4252

Re: Using passenger aircraft as freighters during this crisis

I really don't think the idea of pulling seats and using the cabins for cargo are a real solution. Loading the cabin would a labor intensive and with floor loading limitations I doubt you could really haul enough to make it a realistic endeavor. Just using the bellies of widebodies is a quick an eas...

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by Dalmd88
Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
Views: 381035

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

So, word around the water cooler this week. If you've got 15 years or less of seniority as of 10-01-2020 you will enjoy the benefits of unemployment. Delta is looking at shaving 50% of its below and upper wing employees as well as outsourcing those cities with mainline employees on one level and ou...

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by Dalmd88
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:33 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What made the 737 more "upgradable" than the 727?
Replies: 37
Views: 4535

Re: What made the 737 more "upgradable" than the 727?

The two crew member mod would have been very expensive. That's why it was never done by any of the upgrades. You brought up the DC 10. So why could that be done and not the 727. I would guess a couple of factors came into play. First would be return on investment. Think of the payload capacity diffe...

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by Dalmd88
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
Views: 381035

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

Airlines executives were buying their own stocks back to raise the stock prices for their own personal gain. . This has placed them in a much lower cash position then they should be in. Now those stocks have tanked and they need the cash but can't get it back. They knew this was a risk, but chose t...

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