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by LTU330
Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Stored LH A380 At FRA
Replies: 35
Views: 31921

RE: Stored LH A380 At FRA

My guess is either short term due to last weeks strikes or waiting to go for maintenance. Long term storage would also have the doors taped and all the window blinds would be down, also the tyres would be covered. There have been several of the <acronym title="Lufthansa (Germany)">LH</acronym> A321s...

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by LTU330
Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Blue Plastic Wrapped Plane On Cargo Pad PHL
Replies: 26
Views: 16608

RE: Blue Plastic Wrapped Plane On Cargo Pad PHL

The stress jack points ARE on the side of the fuselage, and the orange fittings that are installed there are Airbus jack fittings. Sorry for the spelling in my previous post. Spellcheck fail !

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by LTU330
Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Blue Plastic Wrapped Plane On Cargo Pad PHL
Replies: 26
Views: 16608

RE: Blue Plastic Wrapped Plane On Cargo Pad PHL

The points that it is tied down to are the stress jacking points. These are used if you need to perform a big repair were you need the aircraft completely stable. Load cells are placed on top of the special jacks and have to be monitored every few hours to ensure the loads are correct as changes in ...

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by LTU330
Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Next Lufthansa-Strike Looming
Replies: 169
Views: 18707

RE: Next Lufthansa-Strike Looming

The strike is not just about pensions. Officially of course it is, but in reality it is about the new contracts of Eurowings and the transfer of mainline flights to this subsidiary. Everyone knows that what <acronym title="Lufthansa (Germany)">LH</acronym> currently get is a fantastic pension. Is th...

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by LTU330
Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Next Lufthansa-Strike Looming
Replies: 169
Views: 18707

RE: Next Lufthansa-Strike Looming

The trouble with Plc and GmbH etc is that the bottom line is always going to be to maximise the profit for the shareholders, and I don't mean Mr Average with a few hundred shares. The rich always get richer. Who cares about the employees ? Do people think that the Chairman cares about his employees ...

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by LTU330
Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Next Lufthansa-Strike Looming
Replies: 169
Views: 18707

RE: Next Lufthansa-Strike Looming

DABZF: Your personal circumstances must dictate that you can afford to live on the wage you earn despite the higher cost of living. Your profile shows a Germany flag, but maybe you live now in Switzerland or similar as Germany is not a cheap place to live, especially around an airport like <acronym ...

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by LTU330
Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Next Lufthansa-Strike Looming
Replies: 169
Views: 18707

RE: Next Lufthansa-Strike Looming

Unflug: the point I am trying to make is that the industry becomes de-skilled. We have different contracts here, and it does not sit right with me that two people doing exactly the same job in the same company can earn different wages. Not only that, companies can serve 90 days termination of contra...

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by LTU330
Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Next Lufthansa-Strike Looming
Replies: 169
Views: 18707

RE: Next Lufthansa-Strike Looming

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/seahawk" class="quote" target="_blank">seahawk</a> (<a href="#74" class="quote">Reply 74</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> ......I Agree, ...

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by LTU330
Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Next Lufthansa-Strike Looming
Replies: 169
Views: 18707

RE: Next Lufthansa-Strike Looming

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/offloaded" class="quote" target="_blank">offloaded</a> (<a href="#44" class="quote">Reply 44</a>):<br/><i>And still 3x the minimum wage here in ...

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by LTU330
Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 1st NWA 744 In Service And 1st UA 744 Retired
Replies: 23
Views: 10107

RE: 1st NWA 744 In Service And 1st UA 744 Retired

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/United1" class="quote" target="_blank">United1</a> (<a href="#7" class="quote">Reply 7</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> He means they bui...

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by LTU330
Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Next Lufthansa-Strike Looming
Replies: 169
Views: 18707

RE: Next Lufthansa-Strike Looming

Lufthansa must have some master plan. I already saw one 748i divert into <acronym title="CURRENT: Munich (- Franz Josef Strauss) (MUC / EDDM), Germany AND OLD: Munich - Riem (MUC / EDDM) (closed), Germany">MUC</acronym> earlier. Now another one and an A380 are also inbound and it is certainly not a ...

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by LTU330
Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kolavia A321 crashes in Sinai / Egypt - Part 1
Replies: 206
Views: 82291

Kolavia A321 crashes in Sinai / Egypt - Part 1

VQ-BUV, a Norwind 737 was showing on FR24 around that time at FL350 but I don't see it now. It could be that one. Hopefully just a FR24 blind spot or glitch.

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by LTU330
Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH Pilots To Strike On Tue 8 Sept.
Replies: 149
Views: 16981

RE: LH Pilots To Strike On Tue 8 Sept.

It's a fact of life that for many people it is hard to accept a change in your working conditions. Of course you should be able to question this and act if you want to. I work for the "other" German Airline (obviously outside the <acronym title="Lufthansa (Germany)">LH</acronym> Group), and every si...

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by LTU330
Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:56 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Wide Body European Routes S15
Replies: 30
Views: 9166

RE: Wide Body European Routes S15

I think the OP was probably referring to normal scheduled services. Most of the European "Charter" airlines with wide bodies operate them around the holiday destinations in Spain, Turkey and Greece for example. For what it is worth I have noticed Austrian use the Boeing 777 on the <acronym title="Vi...

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by LTU330
Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When Is Turboprop Better Than Jet?
Replies: 71
Views: 21164

RE: When Is Turboprop Better Than Jet?

Hmmm. My ATA 104 Level III Type Course notes say that the service ceiling is 27000ft if chemical oxygen generators are installed for Passenger use. I guess if the authorities say otherwise then that is a mute point, but the fact remains it is capable.

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by LTU330
Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When Is Turboprop Better Than Jet?
Replies: 71
Views: 21164

RE: When Is Turboprop Better Than Jet?

DiamondFlyer is correct. The service ceiling is 27000 ft if you install chemical oxygen generators instead of just having the portable oxygen bottles. We only have the portable bottle system at Air Berlin so 25000 ft is where we cruise.

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by LTU330
Fri May 29, 2015 5:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: German FR Pilots Investigated For Tax Evasion
Replies: 67
Views: 6364

RE: German FR Pilots Investigated For Tax Evasion

With reference to PanHAMs comment earlier about companies needing to "keep their heads above water". Ryanair just announced massive profits. Maybe my company (Air Berlin) should go down this route also then ? Out of interest, what sort of contracts are the Lufthansa low cost Longhaul crews that will...

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by LTU330
Wed May 27, 2015 8:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When Is Turboprop Better Than Jet?
Replies: 71
Views: 21164

RE: When Is Turboprop Better Than Jet?

The modern Turboprops are very fast. You don't lose too much time overall on short sectors. The Q400 for example gets to its cruise altitude very fast and just goes flat out until speed restrictions during approach. It is also extremely fuel efficient. In our company we need a load factor of only ab...

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by LTU330
Wed May 27, 2015 7:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MAN News 54... Chinese Takeaway Time
Replies: 152
Views: 38081

RE: MAN News 54... Chinese Takeaway Time

The <acronym title="Emirates (United Arab Emirates)">EK</acronym> 310 used to usually park at the end of Pier C from my memories. <acronym title="Eastern Airways (United Kingdom)">T3</acronym> didn't exist until after 1995. Certainly the A330s used to use the last Stand on <acronym title="Eastern Ai...

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by LTU330
Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Germany Limits AB & EY Codeshare
Replies: 51
Views: 9924

RE: Germany Limits AB & EY Codeshare

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/AviationAware" class="quote" target="_blank">AviationAware</a> (<a href="#36" class="quote">Reply 36</a>):<br/><i>And if Air Berlin weren't ther...

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by LTU330
Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Germany Limits AB & EY Codeshare
Replies: 51
Views: 9924

RE: Germany Limits AB & EY Codeshare

Of course, it's no problem for <acronym title="Lufthansa (Germany)">LH</acronym> to codeshare with all the non european airlines like <acronym title="South African Airways">SA</acronym>, <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym>, <acronym title="Air Canada">AC</acronym>, <acronym title="Al...

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by LTU330
Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS - Part 5
Replies: 231
Views: 84616

RE: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS - Part 5

Crew O2 is indeed a bottle. The quantity is checked on every daily check and the Flight Crew themselves have a check to perform on the masks as part of their pre-flight checks. The minimum quantity permitted for dispatch varies depending on the number of crew, so if you had a check pilot for example...

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by LTU330
Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS! Part 2
Replies: 256
Views: 96329

RE: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS! Part 2

The content of the A Check can vary. Sometimes additional work packages are planned alongside the normal items. Typically there will be lubrication cards for landing gear, flaps/slats. Inspection tasks that are normally just general visual of the pylons and such like. Function checks of various syst...

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by LTU330
Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:05 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Air Berlin Business Class DUS-JFK-DUS
Replies: 11
Views: 25471

RE: Air Berlin Business Class DUS-JFK-DUS

I have just returned from a 5 week jaunt to the USA. I flew <acronym title="CURRENT: Munich (- Franz Josef Strauss) (MUC / EDDM), Germany AND OLD: Munich - Riem (MUC / EDDM) (closed), Germany">MUC</acronym>-<acronym title="Dusseldorf - International (Rhein-Ruhr / Lohausen) (DUS / EDDL), Germany">DUS...

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by LTU330
Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF007 Diverts To MAN Due To Crew Exceeding Time
Replies: 40
Views: 16296

RE: AF007 Diverts To MAN Due To Crew Exceeding Time

Correct, a GCAA license is not an EASA licence. However, Etihad cover Air Berlin in <acronym title="Chicago - O'Hare International (ORD / KORD), USA - Illinois">ORD</acronym> which operates under EASA, and when I worked at <acronym title="British Airways">BA</acronym> we covered Continental, US Airw...

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by LTU330
Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF007 Diverts To MAN Due To Crew Exceeding Time
Replies: 40
Views: 16296

RE: AF007 Diverts To MAN Due To Crew Exceeding Time

Regarding <acronym title="Air France">AF</acronym> staff in <acronym title="Manchester - International (Ringway) (MAN / EGCC), United Kingdom AND Nampa - Municipal (Ritchey Field) (MAN), USA - Idaho">MAN</acronym>. When I worked there between 1995 and 2002 for <acronym title="British Airways">BA</ac...

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by LTU330
Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another Person Kicked Off, With Twist
Replies: 32
Views: 11831

RE: Another Person Kicked Off, With Twist

Not crew rest seats on this 767. I worked for the Airline at the time and you don't need any crew rest on a LHR-FRA sector.

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by LTU330
Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another Person Kicked Off, With Twist
Replies: 32
Views: 11831

RE: Another Person Kicked Off, With Twist

The woman is clearly an idiot. However there are many other instances were Cabin Attendants are acting high and mighty. Look at some of the trip reports on this site that mention the attitude of some Crews. Maybe only a small percentage, but if you have paid full fare especially in First, you should...

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by LTU330
Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Transaero 747 At MLB?
Replies: 8
Views: 3346

RE: Transaero 747 At MLB?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/catiii" class="quote" target="_blank">catiii</a> (<a href="#5" class="quote">Reply 5</a>):<br/><i> It's really no different than sending it to H...

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by LTU330
Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Transaero 747 At MLB?
Replies: 8
Views: 3346

RE: Transaero 747 At MLB?

Thanks for the info. Amazing that they would dead leg across the pond for maintenance. Must be getting a very good deal to undercut the MROs in China and Eastern Europe.

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by LTU330
Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Transaero 747 At MLB?
Replies: 8
Views: 3346

Transaero 747 At MLB?

Looks like VP-BKL of Transaero has just landed at Melbourne, Fl. Would this be a cruise charter ? If so, are they fairly regular ?

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by LTU330
Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: F15s Escorting A B6 A320 Into Ksea
Replies: 45
Views: 18090

RE: F15s Escorting A B6 A320 Into Ksea

There is also breaking news here in Orlando saying that a Delta Flight from <acronym title="Los Angeles - International (LAX / KLAX), USA - California">LAX</acronym> to <acronym title="Orlando - International (McCoy) (MCO / KMCO), USA - Florida">MCO</acronym> has been diverted to <acronym title="Dal...

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by LTU330
Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAM A340-500 Ferried Back To Brazil - Why?
Replies: 21
Views: 18318

RE: TAM A340-500 Ferried Back To Brazil - Why?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/flyinTLow" class="quote" target="_blank">flyinTLow</a> (<a href="#13" class="quote">Reply 13</a>):<br/><i> If I am not mistaking, I think <acron...

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by LTU330
Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAM A340-500 Ferried Back To Brazil - Why?
Replies: 21
Views: 18318

RE: TAM A340-500 Ferried Back To Brazil - Why?

I think you will find that the reason they went to Malta in the first place was for maintenance at the Lufthansa Technik facility there. The storage after that is most likely whilst the leasing company/owner of the airframe decides on what to do next, either lease to another operator (if they can fi...

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by LTU330
Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Etihad In Talks With Airbus
Replies: 17
Views: 18079

RE: Etihad In Talks With Airbus

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Glareskin" class="quote" target="_blank">Glareskin</a> (<a href="#13" class="quote">Reply 13</a>):<br/><i> Now that would be a breakthrough as t...

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by LTU330
Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Etihad In Talks With Airbus
Replies: 17
Views: 18079

RE: Etihad In Talks With Airbus

...and don't forget Air Berlin which is heavily involved in the Etihad world nowadays.

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by LTU330
Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:46 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Chengdu Airport Hotels
Replies: 0
Views: 1472

Chengdu Airport Hotels

There is a good chance that I will be traveling to Chengdu next month to do some work for one of the Airlines there, although everything will be booked by my company. There "seems" to be a Hotel right by the Airport (500m) but it is really a problem to confirm it as the pictures on TripAdvisor bare ...

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by LTU330
Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Etihad In Advanced Talks Over LOT Stake?
Replies: 21
Views: 6160

RE: Etihad In Advanced Talks Over LOT Stake?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/SelseyBill" class="quote" target="_blank">SelseyBill</a> (<a href="#15" class="quote">Reply 15</a>):<br/><i>Won't EU rules limit Etihads' potent...

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by LTU330
Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 3
Replies: 304
Views: 100421

OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 3

It's probably been said in the previous threads, but I can't see anything other than a tired crew misjudging a manual approach in which there is no space to set down early. It seems that at the last second they may have over rotated in an attempt to recover (before the engines have had time to spool...

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by LTU330
Mon May 13, 2013 10:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF Pilots Not Happy With Maintenance Made In China
Replies: 65
Views: 22753

RE: AF Pilots Not Happy With Maintenance Made In China

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/zeke" class="quote" target="_blank">zeke</a> (<a href="#28" class="quote">Reply 28</a>):<br/><i>The airline does not have the process in place t...

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by LTU330
Mon May 13, 2013 6:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF Pilots Not Happy With Maintenance Made In China
Replies: 65
Views: 22753

RE: AF Pilots Not Happy With Maintenance Made In China

When I worked at B.A in the 1990s we used to send 747s to HAECO for maintenance. The first one that came back spent around six days having the deferred items fixed before it could re-enter service. Two more came back and it was noticed that it was impossible to control the cabin temperature in zone ...

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by LTU330
Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Berlin Inaugural TXL-ORD
Replies: 32
Views: 13506

RE: Air Berlin Inaugural TXL-ORD

I am surprised that the Mayor of Berlin was onboard (unless he bought his own ticket) considering the damage done to Air Berlin due to the new airport debacle !

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by LTU330
Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH Cancels Nearly All Domestic And EU Flights On March 21st Due To Str
Replies: 31
Views: 17787

RE: LH Cancels Nearly All Domestic And EU Flights On March 21st Due To

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/CARST" class="quote" target="_blank">CARST</a> (<a href="#21" class="quote">Reply 21</a>):<br/><i>But we are talking about generally good paid e...

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by LTU330
Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH Cancels Nearly All Domestic And EU Flights On March 21st Due To Str
Replies: 31
Views: 17787

RE: LH Cancels Nearly All Domestic And EU Flights On March 21st Due To

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/JimJupiter" class="quote" target="_blank">JimJupiter</a> (<a href="#16" class="quote">Reply 16</a>):<br/><i>This is a different issue. My office...

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by LTU330
Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH Cancels Nearly All Domestic And EU Flights On March 21st Due To Str
Replies: 31
Views: 17787

RE: LH Cancels Nearly All Domestic And EU Flights On March 21st Due To

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Unflug" class="quote" target="_blank">Unflug</a> (<a href="#15" class="quote">Reply 15</a>):<br/><i> The cost of living has not really risen in ...

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by LTU330
Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH Cancels Nearly All Domestic And EU Flights On March 21st Due To Str
Replies: 31
Views: 17787

RE: LH Cancels Nearly All Domestic And EU Flights On March 21st Due To

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/B747forever" class="quote" target="_blank">B747forever</a> (<a href="#8" class="quote">Reply 8</a>):<br/><i>The cost of living change is almost ...

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by LTU330
Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Future Of Lufthansa´s A340 Fleet?
Replies: 61
Views: 31690

RE: The Future Of Lufthansa´s A340 Fleet?

I was under the impression that in 2013 the whole A340-600 fleet would eventually be transferred to <acronym title="CURRENT: Munich (- Franz Josef Strauss) (MUC / EDDM), Germany AND OLD: Munich - Riem (MUC / EDDM) (closed), Germany">MUC</acronym>. I can't remember if it was information from a friend...

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by LTU330
Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First Revenue Flight Of LOT's 787 Today:)
Replies: 40
Views: 14854

RE: First Revenue Flight Of LOT's 787 Today:)

....it's also scheduled to operate to <acronym title="CURRENT: Munich (- Franz Josef Strauss) (MUC / EDDM), Germany AND OLD: Munich - Riem (MUC / EDDM) (closed), Germany">MUC</acronym> this afternoon. Due at 16:25 local. I need to make sure the shopping that my wife has planned is done and dusted in...

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by LTU330
Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Long Delays In ZRH Today
Replies: 6
Views: 7781

RE: Long Delays In ZRH Today

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Viscount724" class="quote" target="_blank">Viscount724</a> (<a href="#1" class="quote">Reply 1</a>):<br/><i>I find that, in general, all Europea...

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by LTU330
Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Berlin Selling Eight NB Aricraft To Cut Debt
Replies: 16
Views: 13103

RE: Air Berlin Selling Eight NB Aricraft To Cut Debt

How is this a desperate move ? It is part of the "Size and Shape" plan. Increasing utilisation of the fleet means that the number of Aircraft can be reduced. The Aircraft that are leaving the fleet at the moment had high leasing costs. Air Berlin are pulling out of many loss making airports and ther...

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