Can we chill with this "CHS is a mecca for tourism and industry" Let's look at the facts, shall we: https://www.anna.aero/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Top-25-unserved-US-markets.jpg These facts leave out STL. 300 daily pax depart daily for Europe. Strange they are not listed in this data. H...Jump to post
Hard to find hard facts on the total number of European visitors to STL each year, but the Post, back in 2013 reported this "About 87,000 travelers from those countries (Canada, Europe, Mexico) visited the area in 2013, according to the St. Louis Convention & Visitors Commission" http...Jump to post
Hard to find hard facts on the total number of European visitors to STL each year, but the Post, back in 2013 reported this "About 87,000 travelers from those countries (Canada, Europe, Mexico) visited the area in 2013, according to the St. Louis Convention & Visitors Commission" https...Jump to post
You expect anything less from the news? Surprised they didn't use stock roll video with a TWA L-1011. :stirthepot: The thing that ticks me off about this whole this is they told the airport on 9/5, "WOW Air is really happy with the St. Louis route this summer." and then they release that ...Jump to post
Just like STL you all got hosed by WW. Watch this and note the part of the 5-Sept email WW sent to the airport. Then they totally change their mind in the PR release and make the airport/city look like it was them. https://www.kmov.com/news/wow-air-pulling-out-of-st-louis-saying-summer-performance/a...Jump to post
Decent watch/read. KMOV talked to a airline consultant about WOW/STL. https://www.kmov.com/news/wow-air-pulling-out-of-st-louis-saying-summer-performance/article_5d54b3ba-d0bb-11e8-8f78-47ee132a06ef.html "since we broke the news" Correction: since A.net broke the news news 4 didn't know a...Jump to post
I am not going to get too upset about this if they were expecting 90% loads like they are stating. I wouldn't have expected us to hit 90% on an airline not many have heard in the first year. First month or two maybe but after the initial people excited about it calms down I feel like asking for 90%...Jump to post
I’m just most ticked that I didn’t get to take a trip to Iceland because of it. Hopefully someone else will come fill the opening. We’ll see Just look for one of their sales and then cart yourself up to ORD and fly Ice Air. Entirely worth it. FI is at MCI too. Easier drive and less hassle that ORD!Jump to post
This is definitely a huge set back for STL. I really feel terrible for the RouteDev team. This stings horribly. Will be very difficult to get another TATL to enter the STL market again. I think you are wrong. STL will see another carrier. One that actually can sustain their business with a viable a...Jump to post
Jshank83 wrote:CLE and CVG getting axed as well.
Apparently WOW wasn't happy with the loads from any of them.
https://twitter.com/ChrisNagusKMOV/stat ... 5896118275
STL was the first to fall and I think that JShank83's communication with the airport peeps expedited the announcement from WW. Other cities will see the guillotine fall on them soon. PIT, MCO CLE, CVG, etc. It is just a matter of time. They are hemorrhaging cash and their lack of "luck" to...Jump to post
Speaking of "Future", wasn't US Air supposed to start Vietnam service back in 2015? :scratchchin: :duck: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/bttf/images/0/07/Surfvietnam.png/revision/latest?cb=20170502121918 YES!!!!! HAHAHA!! Thanks for the laugh. Forgot about this.Jump to post
Probably one of the most awkward questions I have seen posted here, but I guess the answer to your question is here?? I say that with a question mark too.
stlgph wrote:Any shots of our new friends Sun Country sitting nice and pretty on the tarmac?
So, will they go under before their entire fleet is re-painted? Place your bets, folks! 1 down, 24 to go! Not surprised to see all the negative comments. Pretty typical for a new livery thread. :stirthepot: While options C and D were my favorites, It is not horrible. I would like to see them do one...Jump to post
Don't forget, ATL is also a thousand feet up in altitude, as well I don't know much about meteorology, how does elevation effect something like this? Thanks! :wave: Good question! My old guess is the decrease in temperature, although minimal can weaken the storm/winds faster as in moves inland.Jump to post
Looking at videos from the same airfield, their landing looked spot on. Yeah it does look close, but at the end of this video, you can see that the planes parked at the end how tight this area is
I’m there at the morning rush. 6am -9am. The TSA agents just move slowly and distract themselves with conversation. So it goes slow. Not sure you need another line. You just need to process people faster. What really irks me is that the TSA Pre-Check lines are often longer than the regular ones. 90...Jump to post
Surprised nobody has said:
Found the renderings for the new baggage claims area. Looks good. Extra concessions also. To bring this all back to the latest convo, Wn wouldn't be getting all this branding in T1 (assuming the branding stays). Putting their mark/money on T2 and not having to share has to be the biggest reason the...Jump to post
I got to thinking, with all of this flip-flopping terminal chat. Down the road, if WN continues to expand and in need of more room, would this remotely be an option for expanding? Don't mind the gate placements, just a quick photoshop snip. I know it is a pipe dream but with them quickly running out...Jump to post
A hammer and nails could solve all the problems. At least with a swap here, it'd be pretty much on the same building, campus. You have airports like LGA where JetBlue and Alaska just took off overnight to the Marine Terminal, causing a massive cluster. Then several airlines have split operations at...Jump to post
Good to see BFL get some love. DFW-GNV is not a route I would have expected. Thought they flew DFW-BUR. LGA-TYS was there before. DCA-OKC was there before I thought. LAX-TUL was there before I'm pretty sure. JFK-SAT is odd. I guess this opens the inevitable question...what is getting cut? I expect ...Jump to post
^ I doubt the airport can straight-up force any airline to move. Even if they could, it's probably best not to piss off your number 1 airline. I also question whether AA would want to move anyway, especially seeing as how the AA lounge is at the B/C/D connector. Sure, T2 has Wingtips, but I doubt A...Jump to post
Frequency Spreadsheet for November complete for all airlines STL down 9 flights a week (keep in mind it is down 60 EAS flights so it really is up 51 flights a week on non EAS airlines) BLV down 3 a week. (FLL/JAX) went seasonal. Possibly due to MD retirements. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d...Jump to post
Anyone on here taken WOW yet? Thoughts? Seat advice? General advice about Iceland. I am thinking about going in March. Haven't been on WOW before, BUT you need to go to the food and fun fest. http://www.foodandfun.is/ . It is AMAZING! If you go during this, ensure you book tables waaaaaaaaaay in ad...Jump to post
Fort Leonard Wood https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://centreforaviation.com/news/us-dot-receives-proposals-from-three-airlines-for-eas-contract-at-fort-leonard-wood-837779&ved=0ahUKEwinw42v18jdAhXOz1MKHUOlA9kQxfQBCCUwAA&usg=AOvVaw1ywtJ_L6P8kmaKLoN1rQX_ I...Jump to post
One thing that will help answer this is in the article below. The lucrative cargo business which the 763 and 772 are perfect for on many routes from MIA to South/Central America.
[threeid][/threeid] Yeah that looks to be part of the marketing incentives promised to WOW. There was even a nice full-page ad about STL a few months back, if I can find it. I like the travel blogs. Neat idea. As others state, we “don’t have tourism” yet we have a ton to do here. I know we aren’t Ch...Jump to post
Meh, I wouldn't look into it too much at the moment; I would imagine there's a bit more flux with charters. Besides, even if Apple stops it, WN will still have service (and have it when it's used most often). I emailed he airport about it recently. Got this response. Montego Bay has not been added ...Jump to post
Jshank83 wrote:Sun Country is going to use C27.
Gate Diagram for reference.
https://www.flystl.com/uploads/document ... n-2018.pdf
Probably true (and I never really thought it would be us) but nothing in the thread is concrete except for one guy who might not even have read the route map correctly and announced there is a press conference when there hasn't been a confirmation of such. I found an article saying pit will be laun...Jump to post
Looks like the "Midwest City" for EI is going to be MSP
And aer lingus would be on a narrow body and would end up just being a connection point like KEF When WOW announced their STL service quite a few people at my company asked me about them as I am "The Travel Guy" at least when it comes to flying. Interestingly enough, it wasn't London, Par...Jump to post
I'm just glad I'm thought so highly of over here. LOL!! There's one thing BNA has that STL doesn't, tourism. That alone fills up any seats that aren't gobbled up by business traffic. Their LF through the summer for BNA was at 95% so in reality, it doesn't get much better than that. I think that spe...Jump to post
Not to get too far off track from aviation but imo the metro issues are a little overblown. Are there security issues, of course, but I have seen stats that you are more likely to be injured/die riding in a car from the airport than on the metro. I've seen my share of shady situations on it but I n...Jump to post
Cape air adding extra weekend flights to Decatur. Obviously won't be big numbers but good to see. https://herald-review.com/business/local/extra-weekend-flights-to-st-louis-among-cape-air-s/article_950bf4b0-b2ba-531e-b46b-cf4559c44ddc.html "They see that there's an increase in passengers that ...Jump to post