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by 2122M
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:32 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

extender wrote:
Simple answer, no.

I fill out a 4473 when I buy one, there's your registration.


Do you transfer that to the person that buys the gun from you via private sale? Does that hold you liable in the event that weapon is used in a crime?

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by 2122M
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:25 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

No to gun registration. No to private sales. A gun is property, to be sold as desired. Slippery slope remember? So is a car, but I have to transfer that title when I sell it someone, don't I? then you say: 'But cars are not protected by the second amendment!' Then I say: I don't care. A gun registr...

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by 2122M
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:17 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Again, how useful was a background check to the last shooting? From what I understand, he didn't get the weapon form the place where he failed the background check. That likely means he went the private sale or gun show route where a background check is unnecessary. So you mandate background checks...

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by 2122M
Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:24 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Get over the crap with the NRA. The NRA doesn't go about killing anyone. Name one mas shooter that was an NRA member. You're not going to find it. I’m pretty sure, no wait, I’m 100% sure no one accused the NRA of pulling the trigger. The point made was that the NRA pushes hard against legislation t...

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by 2122M
Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:48 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

extender wrote:
All good, let's see your suggestions:


Are you two different people? Have you not been a part of this conversation for the last couple of days? I laid out my suggestions in clear detail over and over again in this thread. I'm not retyping the whole damn thing. Just scroll up.

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by 2122M
Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:41 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

extender wrote:
Sweeps, checkpoints to name a few. But wait, that's profiling. Profiling bad, can't do that. See what I mean about being handcuffed?


I thought you were in favor of preserving people rights. 2nd amendment good, 4th amendment bad?

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by 2122M
Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:33 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

There you go with the assumptions again. But you are wrong, again. I think violence needs to be addressed. I think the police needs to do something about it, without having to get handcuffed by corrupt, or stupid city governments. OK, go. Suggest something. Under the current system and using curren...

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by 2122M
Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:57 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

LEGISLATION>>>VOTE>>>PASSES>>>LAW... I bet when you go overseas and people don't speak English, you are the kind of person that just repeats what you are saying in English, but louder and slower like that will help at all. Anyway, at this point you are being willfully ignorant and you are obviously...

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by 2122M
Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:15 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

...but then refuse to support legislation that would allow the current law to be properly enforced. You want to read that again? If it is a law already, why would you need additional legislation to enforce it? I can pass laws all day long, but they don't' mean a thing unless I'm given the tools to ...

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by 2122M
Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:40 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

There is no loophole. An Illinois resident cannot buy a gun in Indiana. Illegal. Against an existing law. And how are Illinois cops supposed to know? Laws can't deter if you can't get caught. That's the enforcement part of the whole thing. Yea, he's not getting this at all. He (or she) and others w...

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by 2122M
Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:11 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

I'm sorry if you are uncomfortable with the information provided. It's conclusions run counter to your gut feelings, but I'm afraid there is nothing I can do about that, not does that fact invalidate the studies. And the registry would slow the free flow of weapons around the country and allow gun ...

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by 2122M
Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:19 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Fine and dandy in Spain, and wherever else irresponsible gun owners lurk, but in the US, it is in the Constitution. So as I said before, good luck. As for the NRA badge, I'm not an NRA member. Can you tell me what part of the constitution says we have the right to bear arms without background check...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:43 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

National gun registry, insurance requirements, universal background checks, allowing the CDC to study gun violence as a public health issue..... None of the measures prohibit the ownership of firearms by law-abiding citizens, would you give them a shot in a effort to save lives? Now explain how tho...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:06 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Great. So that would require action in congress. New rules and regulations and I think would have the overwhelming support of American's. Shouldn't the NRA want to throw its full support behind something like this? I can understand why the NRA would have a problem with it. The information would lik...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:14 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

That's already illegal, though. The buddy in this case would be facing felony charges for supplying firearms to people who are not allowed to own them. Once again, better enforcement of existing laws is needed before we worry about making new ones. OK, great, I agree with you on this. So how do we ...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:05 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

A handgun permit is issued by the county that you live in. If you live in Chicago and can't get a permit there, you can't just go to a gun store across the border and buy a handgun. They are legally prohibited from selling to you. But all you need is a buddy with a residence in Indiana. They can bu...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:54 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Once again, if you can't buy a handgun in Chicago, you can't buy one in Wisconsin or Indiana. It is illegal to do so. Your argument is irrelevant. A person in Indiana can get a gun mush easier than a person in Chicago, no? For example, in Illinois, a background check is required for a private sale,...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:46 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Saw on the news this morning that the Odessa shooter was not eligible to own a firearm. Once again, the gun laws aren't the problem. Enforcement is. Instead of worrying about new laws, how about worrying about enforcing the ones that are already on the books? It will be interesting to see how he go...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:46 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

How is that working in Chicago, DC and Baltimore? They don't, so your argument just went into the honey bucket Chicago is 45 minutes from Indiana and an hour for Wisconsin. What are their gun laws like? How about DC and Baltimore? Just a stones throw from Virginia's relatively lax state gun laws. G...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:32 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Maybe you too can get a pardon, as Richard Reid did. Look him up. The shoe bomber? Not sure he received a pardon. 100% positive its irrelevant to this conversation and a truly odd thing to bring up. Google Richard Reid, Gun Felon, Obama Pardon. Relevant or not? Sure it is. Try again. Richard D. Rei...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:19 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Lame excuse, and that is why you have to deflect; the data does not support your argument. Elaborate please. Why is that a lame excuse? States with lax laws are next door. That lame excuse. Lame. Like the liberal loon, Lightfoot, blames it on republicans. Gun control doesn't work. You just cannot a...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:17 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

extender wrote:
Maybe you too can get a pardon, as Richard Reid did. Look him up.


The shoe bomber? Not sure he received a pardon. 100% positive its irrelevant to this conversation and a truly odd thing to bring up.

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:14 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

extender wrote:
Lame excuse, and that is why you have to deflect; the data does not support your argument.


Elaborate please. Why is that a lame excuse?

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:29 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Can you share with us that mountain that shows "basic" gun control measures work? https://cdn1.sph.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/1264/2012/10/bulletins_australia_spring_2011.pdf https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26905895 https://academic.oup.com/aler/article-abstract/12/2/509/992...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:24 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Against a mountain of evidence that basic gun control measures work Can you share with us that mountain that shows "basic" gun control measures work? Should we be responsible as a nation and at least make an effort to end the uniquely American epidemic? Not if that effort is completely mi...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:06 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Very little difference these days. Doesn't change my point either way. Against a mountain of evidence that basic gun control measures work and overwhelming public support to expand background checks and close private sales loopholes.. How is that working in Chicago, DC and Baltimore? They don't, so...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:41 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

how would you know if I am an ultra-conservative or a libertarian? Very little difference these days. Doesn't change my point either way. Against a mountain of evidence that basic gun control measures work and overwhelming public support to expand background checks and close private sales loopholes...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:31 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 10171

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

extender wrote:
Ain't gonna happen.


Behold, the facts with which the ultra-conservative come to the table with. "Ain't gonna happen."

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:00 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer
Replies: 86
Views: 4685

Re: Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer

I suppose the upside is that everyone pays. No freeloaders, but we know how that will go over. Someone will create a loophole for the freeloaders. Are you inventing a problem that doesn't yet exist in order to argue against a policy you don't like? To be honest, it took me awhile to be sold on Medi...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:26 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer
Replies: 86
Views: 4685

Re: Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer

Those aren’t made up: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Finland#VAT_and_excise_taxes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Sweden That the “Northern Europe” taxation the left clings to. A couple of things here. First of all, both of these countries have exceptional healthcare outcom...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer
Replies: 86
Views: 4685

Re: Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer

Does government regulate safety of the airlines? Indeed they do. But I would be careful to equate air travel and healthcare. I don't believe every American should be granted the right to accessible and affordable air travel. I don't know of anyone that unexpectedly needed to fly to the coast last m...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:11 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer
Replies: 86
Views: 4685

Re: Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer

Governments sets minimum standards soooo.... regulation? Does government regulate safety of the airlines? Indeed they do. But I would be careful to equate air travel and healthcare. I don't believe every American should be granted the right to accessible and affordable air travel. I don't know of a...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:05 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer
Replies: 86
Views: 4685

Re: Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer

Let me know when you want to pay 10% tax on groceries, 15% on prepared foods (Cereal, bread, canned goods) and 25% tax on everything else (like that next car). Because that’s what your pipe dream costs. Sounds really affordable, er... not really, same cost it just hits you another way. Every single...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:01 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer
Replies: 86
Views: 4685

Re: Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer

DL717 wrote:
Governments sets minimum standards


soooo.... regulation?

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:56 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer
Replies: 86
Views: 4685

Re: Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer

“Hi! I just walked 1100 mi, have no money, and am carrying my ill child and worldly possessions. Do you know the way to the Cleveland Clinic?” These people actually believe that happens. Republicans do not want a national health care for all system that we can all afford. Guess what? If we have a n...

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by 2122M
Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:53 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer
Replies: 86
Views: 4685

Re: Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer

Our healthcare system is just fine. Health insurance is the problem. Time to deregulate it like we should have done 10 years ago instead of this bastardized government mandate. Health insurance did not force manufacturers of insulin and EpiPens to raise their prices hundreds or thousands of dollars...

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by 2122M
Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:20 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Joe Biden ill??
Replies: 61
Views: 5653

Re: Joe Biden ill??

A blueblood who still pretends to be a blue collar Pennsylvanis boy...good old Uncle Joe, right? What a load of horseshit. And he's a creepy sexual predator too. Wait, this sounds 100% like you are talking about Donald Trump. The way he pretends to be a man of the people when he was gifted millions...

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by 2122M
Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:50 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 6: Encore un moment Monsieur le Bourreau
Replies: 3167
Views: 164467

Re: Brexit part 6: Encore un moment Monsieur le Bourreau

ChrisKen wrote:
cockwombles


New favorite insult. Actually, forget that. New favorite word altogether.

Thank you!

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by 2122M
Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:45 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: The Kuleshov Effect
Replies: 22
Views: 1777

Re: The Kuleshov Effect

In this thread - sheep arguing about what manure they get fed into their willing mouths. It's 2019, if you still listen to/believe the corporate news sources there is no hope for you, you are already beyond saving. oh great, and how do you think we . should inform ourselves? Independent news source...

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by 2122M
Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:51 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Oklahoma wins Opiod Lawsuit
Replies: 39
Views: 1893

Re: Oklahoma wins Opiod Lawsuit

While $500,000,000 sounds like a lot of money, the Oklahoma AG stated that over 100,000 state citizens and addicts were affected by this suit. Assuming it’s 100,000, that’s $5,000 per addict. My opioid addiction treatment cost me $108,500, not to mention needing to quit my job and take 13 months to...

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by 2122M
Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:58 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Oklahoma wins Opiod Lawsuit
Replies: 39
Views: 1893

Re: Oklahoma wins Opiod Lawsuit

Like any drug, a person takes it the first time of their own volition, after that it’s a crap shoot on addiction. People don't take prescription dugs just for fun. They are trusting a professional to help them solve a medical problem. If that professional has been given bad information, then that i...

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by 2122M
Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:59 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Oklahoma wins Opiod Lawsuit
Replies: 39
Views: 1893

Re: Oklahoma wins Opiod Lawsuit

Why not sue the FDA, an agency of the US Government, they approved its use, as safe and effective, for treating pain. Because they never intentionally misled anyone regarding those side effects. They tested it, noted the potential risks and benefits and approved with the requirement that the addict...

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by 2122M
Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:55 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Oklahoma wins Opiod Lawsuit
Replies: 39
Views: 1893

Re: Oklahoma wins Opiod Lawsuit

einsteinboricua wrote:
Unless J&J purposely sought to downplay the dangers of opioids, bribed officials, or misled doctors/consumers as to the effects, I don't see how the manufacturer is to blame.


Much of this is exactly what the state of Oklahoma (and about a dozen other sates with pending lawsuits) is alleging.

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by 2122M
Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:53 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: The Kuleshov Effect
Replies: 22
Views: 1777

Re: The Kuleshov Effect

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
Same everywhere in media.


He says while only mentioning what he would consider 'liberal' news organizations.

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by 2122M
Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:17 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: The Kuleshov Effect
Replies: 22
Views: 1777

Re: The Kuleshov Effect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAQ0E9r ... ED833C9047
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Here's a whole playlist of FOX editing clips to confirm their bias:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAQ0E9r ... ED833C9047

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by 2122M
Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:14 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: The Kuleshov Effect
Replies: 22
Views: 1777

Re: The Kuleshov Effect

Here's a video proving FOX news did something far more sinister than editing for time. They actually changed the words to a chant in order to make them sound like villains or cop-killers what that is not at all what was being said. I hope that dirves you crazy too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4...

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by 2122M
Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:09 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: The Kuleshov Effect
Replies: 22
Views: 1777

Re: The Kuleshov Effect

Just watch the video from the second link. This is too funny. They are accusing MSNBC of something terrible because they edited for time. "They cut TWO minutes out of the speech!" - Well of course they did. There's no time to play 2 additional minutes of Trump rambling about an 'invasion'...

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by 2122M
Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:58 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: The Kuleshov Effect
Replies: 22
Views: 1777

Re: The Kuleshov Effect

When the President talks about "Fake News", he is specifically talking about how MSM uses the Kuleshov Effect and even bold faced lies to deceive people. Like noted in your first try, you cannot know what the President (Trump I suspect again) thinks. So that in itself makes this thread co...

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by 2122M
Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:47 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: The Kuleshov Effect
Replies: 22
Views: 1777

Re: The Kuleshov Effect

Just watch the video from the second link. This is too funny. They are accusing MSNBC of something terrible because they edited for time. "They cut TWO minutes out of the speech!" - Well of course they did. There's no time to play 2 additional minutes of Trump rambling about an 'invasion'....

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by 2122M
Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:33 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: The Kuleshov Effect
Replies: 22
Views: 1777

Re: The Kuleshov Effect

Ok, new thread, correct title, sooo: 1) Your title is incorrect / FIXED 2) There is no surprise that mass media networks are familiar with and use effective editing techniques. This is not exactly a conspiracy blown wide open. 3) If you think FOX, Brietbart, OAN etc.. don't do the same thing, you ar...

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