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by Iemand91
Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 phase out discussion thread
Replies: 614
Views: 211964

Re: KLM Started Phase Out Of The 747-400

It looks like last Saturday was not only the end of the Fokker F70's at KLM, but also yet another 747. PH-BFR "Rio de Janeiro" - build in 1993/1994 - has made her last commercial flight for KLM. On Friday she left Amsterdam for Mexico-City as flight KL685 and came back home on Saturday aft...

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by Iemand91
Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery
Replies: 92
Views: 21663

Re: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery

There they went: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNS8C6_WkAA2WLN.jpg:large https://cdn.airplane-pictures.net/images/uploaded-images/2017/10/29/982149.jpg https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4465/37980362022_f6f86aba9f_b.jpg Farewell Fokker 70 29 Oct 2017 by Gino Bacas , on Flickr https://pbs.twimg.com/media/...

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by Iemand91
Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery
Replies: 92
Views: 21663

Re: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery

Departure of -KZS from Norwich: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNP_VHtWsAUWvM7.jpg:large https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4467/24142349498_4c8eea6ee5_b.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNQKp61W0AAUhqs.jpg Fokker 70 PH-KZS by Mark , on Flickr Departure of -KZI from Luxembourg: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D...

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by Iemand91
Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery
Replies: 92
Views: 21663

Re: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery

Sad sight on the live stream. PH-KZU just parked and -KZM and -KZM right behind her, directly behind each other departing to Norwich.

Watching the live stream via Chromecast on the big TV while looking around on internet forums and Twitter etc.

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by Iemand91
Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery
Replies: 92
Views: 21663

Re: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery

TUGMASTER wrote:
Pretty sure I've just seen PH-KZK take off enroute BRU as KL9955.
Just as KL1070 /KZU is landing.!!?!???


PH-KZK is going to Maastricht airport. For storage/preparement for next customer.
PH-KZM and -KZI wil depart for Norwich tonight for the same reason.

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by Iemand91
Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery
Replies: 92
Views: 21663

Re: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery

She's now on final, almost landing.

Unfortunately, there's no live feed.
EDIT: yes it is.

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by Iemand91
Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery
Replies: 92
Views: 21663

Re: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery

https://www.flightradar24.com/KLM1070/f5bd7e6
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Last commercial KLM Fokker flight is live on Flightradar24: https://www.flightradar24.com/KLM1070/f5bd7e6

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by Iemand91
Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery
Replies: 92
Views: 21663

Re: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery

At this moment; 5 Fokkers are heading home for the final time. PH-KZK has landed at Schiphol arriving from Brussels, PH-KZB is on final from Düsseldorf followed by -KZM from Hannover, -KZS from Norwich and -KZI from Luxembourg. PH-KZU is still at London Heathrow, due to depart in minutes time. Lives...

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by Iemand91
Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery
Replies: 92
Views: 21663

Re: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xZzvrE ... e=youtu.be
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Live stream at Youtube with the last Fokker flights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xZzvrE ... e=youtu.be

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by Iemand91
Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery
Replies: 92
Views: 21663

Re: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery

Well, the day has come. Tomorrow wil be the final day of Fokker aircraft at KLM. As I'm writing this; 6 of the remaining Fokkers are either at Schiphol or at airports in abroad. PH-KZU (with the Anthony Fokker livery) has just departed Amsterdam for Basel, 2 more Fokkers will fly out within the next...

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by Iemand91
Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin 747 at AMS
Replies: 10
Views: 3882

Re: Virgin 747 at AMS

Arion640 wrote:
sandyb123 wrote:
Must be quite a fun ride doing AMS - LHR on the jumbo.

Sandyb123


Would probably of been heading to MAN or Gatters.

Gatwick.

Right now on her way to Bridgetown.

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by Iemand91
Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin 747 at AMS
Replies: 10
Views: 3882

Re: Virgin 747 at AMS

KLM Engineering & Maintenance (E&M) has done many A-checks and about 100 C- and D-checks on Virgin Atlantic's 747-400's. This happened between 1994 and 2011. The last D-check they did for Virgin was G-VROC, completed around September 2011. They stopped doing it because the D-check line was c...

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by Iemand91
Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery
Replies: 92
Views: 21663

Re: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery

In exactly one week's time, the last KLM Fokker F70 flight will land at Schiphol Airport from London Heathrow as KL1070. That will be the end of 21 years of F70 at the airline and 97 years of Fokker aircraft at KLM. https://blog.klm.com/assets/uploads/2016/09/1996_Eerste_Fokker_70.png https://blog.k...

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by Iemand91
Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:08 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airbus A330-300 KLM new economy Cabin?
Replies: 1
Views: 939

Re: Airbus A330-300 KLM new economy Cabin?

Hello I will fly an A330-300 from Amsterdam to Calgary. Are these jets already fitted with the new economy class seats and the updated IFE? No. The A330-200's have been retrofitted with a smaller Business-cabin (from this to this ) around March this year. They wil start replacing the entire Busines...

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by Iemand91
Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 phase out discussion thread
Replies: 614
Views: 211964

Re: KLM Started Phase Out Of The 747-400

A388 wrote:
Hahaha okay, now you know. I heard KL will be keeping their 747's for longer now but for how long? When will they be phased out completely?

A388

End of 2020/beginning of 2021.

The remaining 4 747-freighters longer, but no word out for how *much* longer.

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by Iemand91
Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 phase out discussion thread
Replies: 614
Views: 211964

Re: KLM Started Phase Out Of The 747-400

Delta Airlines has retired N662US when it flew to Marana on October 15. This means KLM is now flying the two oldest 747-400's around; PH-BFB (full pax) and PH-BFC (combi), delivered to KLM in June and September 1989. Unfortunately not for long; -BFC is scheduled to retire in the beginning of Decembe...

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by Iemand91
Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Where does China Southern Airlines fly their A380s?
Replies: 28
Views: 8491

Re: Where does China Southern Airlines fly their A380s?

A Dutch aviation website (luchtvaartnieuws.nl) stated they will likely return to Amsterdam with the A380 in the Summer of 2018,
just like they did in the Summer of 2015 and 2016.

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by Iemand91
Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 phase out discussion thread
Replies: 614
Views: 211964

Re: KLM Started Phase Out Of The 747-400

PH-BFY is now at Paramaribo-Zanderij International Airport in Suriname. It will fly back to Amsterdam in about 2 hours. 4 hours after arrival she will fly to Soekarno–Hatta International Airport in Indonesia as flight KL9865. There she will get a D-check; most likely the very last D-check for any KL...

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by Iemand91
Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Garuda Indonesia retires last 747-400
Replies: 5
Views: 2181

Re: Garuda Indonesia retires last 747-400

Garuda was one of the few airlines that had the galley in the longitudinal setup on the right What was the advantage of that config? Looks like a waste of windows. I don't know about Garuda, but KLM apparently used it because it was convenient for their seating arrangements. They had Royal (First) ...

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by Iemand91
Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Garuda Indonesia retires last 747-400
Replies: 5
Views: 2181

Re: Garuda Indonesia retires last 747-400

Sad to see them go. Another airlines were the 747 is something of the past. Some photo's I've found online (Twitter): https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLrz2Z7V4AA28Rb.jpg:large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLsRzAEUEAA2x4X.jpg:large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLsRz-DVwAApyrG.jpg:large https://pbs.twimg.co...

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by Iemand91
Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A340 To be scrapped
Replies: 29
Views: 19410

Re: A340 To be scrapped

Thanks for the follow up. Any more going to the same shop? Lightsaber There are rumours going around KLM might send one (or more) 747-400's to Twente, but those rumours are very vague. Don't pint me down on this one. Other than that; they've said they want to disassemble more planes here. Which or ...

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by Iemand91
Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A340 To be scrapped
Replies: 29
Views: 19410

Re: A340 To be scrapped

(I thought there was a different topic about this; that I possible already previously posted in, but I couldn't find it) Just to update this thread; the A340 has been scrapped around 3 weeks ago: Two videos about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiu1ecX1d70 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsP92v...

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by Iemand91
Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery
Replies: 92
Views: 21663

Re: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery

LH982 wrote:
I'm fairly sure I flew on KZL last week.

You're right. I accidentally switched -KZL with -KZC.

So at this moment: PH-KZL, -KZS, -KZU, -KZM, -KZB, -KZI, -KZK.

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by Iemand91
Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery
Replies: 92
Views: 21663

Re: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery

Several Fokkers have left their home in the last few days. PH-KZP left for Norwich at October 2. PH-KZA left Amsterdam at October 6 and is flying between Al Ain International Airport (AAN) and r. Babasaheb Ambedkar International Airport (NAG). Only 7 Fokkers left at Amsterdam. (PH-KZS, -KZM, -KZB, -...

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by Iemand91
Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:53 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How many pilots does an airline need?
Replies: 13
Views: 3100

Re: How many pilots does an airline need?

Another airline:

As of September 30; 2016 Easyjet had 2.865 pilots flying about 250 aircraft.
That's 2.865 / 250 = 11.46 pilots per aircraft.

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by Iemand91
Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:50 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How many pilots does an airline need?
Replies: 13
Views: 3100

Re: How many pilots does an airline need?

In June 2015, KLM had 2.854 pilots flying the Fokker F70, Embraer 190, Boeing 737, 777, 747 and Airbus A330. At that time it was (if I'm correct): 19 Fokker F70 28 Embraer E190 30 Boeing 737 25 Boeing 777 22 Boeing 747 17 Airbus A330. That's a total of 141 aircraft. 2854 / 141 = 20.2 pilots per airc...

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by Iemand91
Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Crazy A380 landing in DUS during storm
Replies: 60
Views: 18788

Re: Crazy A380 landing in DUS during storm

Get the sickbags ready. :shock:

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by Iemand91
Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official 777 Flight Testing/Production
Replies: 435
Views: 96262

Re: Official 777 Flight Testing/Production

On September 26; KLM's CEO Pieter Elbers personally accepted their last 777-300ER PH-BVU. (First picture) Named "Grand Canyon National Park" it's now on her way to Amsterdam. Expected arrival is 09:40. https://www.flightradar24.com/KLM9866/f05c195 It's KLM's 29th 777 and 14th 777-300ER and...

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by Iemand91
Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways Cargo receives first 747-8F
Replies: 8
Views: 2349

Re: Qatar Airways Cargo receives first 747-8F

The press release is pretty clear: The orders were previously unidentified on Boeing's Orders & Deliveries website. I started to look around the internet and it now I understand those 2 747-8F's Akbar said they ordered in the beginning of July have actually never firmed up, until yesterday. Sti...

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by Iemand91
Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways Cargo receives first 747-8F
Replies: 8
Views: 2349

Re: Qatar Airways Cargo receives first 747-8F

And they've ordered another 2 747-8F's (and 4 777-300ER's). Brings the total number to 4 747-8F's. Actually no, today's announcement is just a confirmation of a previous unidentified order placed on July 16. So these 2 orders today that changed from unidentified to Qatar are the already known 2, in...

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by Iemand91
Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways Cargo receives first 747-8F
Replies: 8
Views: 2349

Re: Qatar Airways Cargo receives first 747-8F

And they've ordered another 2 747-8F's (and 4 777-300ER's).
Brings the total number to 4 747-8F's.

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by Iemand91
Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking/Production Part 18
Replies: 2065
Views: 207385

Re: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking/Production Part 18

LN 1535 is being delivered today, together with an 777F. https://imagr.eu/up/AhHlh_DKlppAvUQAARLAP.jpg https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/912376561533313026 https://imagr.eu/up/74LX6_DKlphg3VwAEsSq-.jpg https://twitter.com/ARdpb/status/912376451277586432 And they've ordered another 2 747-8F's (...

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by Iemand91
Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 phase out discussion thread
Replies: 614
Views: 211964

Re: KLM Started Phase Out Of The 747-400

Well what a nice video and I'll ask my partner to share this at work and who knows. Would be a nice thing to do, Calgary in Calgary. They better hurry; she's scheduled to retire in exactly 10 weeks time. Iemand91, here are the photos I took of PH-BFT in CUR on a huminatarian aid flight to SXM: 4583...

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by Iemand91
Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 phase out discussion thread
Replies: 614
Views: 211964

Re: KLM Started Phase Out Of The 747-400

Dear KLM - A Plea from Calgary Plane Spotters Thanks for watching this video! On behalf of all Calgary plane spotters, I have a special favor to ask of you. KLM's 747-400 PH-BFC is named after my home city of Calgary, Canada, and unfortunately, as many already know, 747-400s are rapidly being retir...

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by Iemand91
Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM 777 wing panel falls off and hits driving car
Replies: 56
Views: 18601

Re: KLM 777 wing panel falls off and hits driving car

Just to make things clear; it looks to be this panel: https://i.imgur.com/xVr3agL.jpg Sourche of the photo: https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4291/35752841612_14b4ea3d2c_c.jpg KLM 777-200ER braking action by Nicky Boogaard , on Flickr It is: https://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/52690967#5...

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by Iemand91
Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM 777 wing panel falls off and hits driving car
Replies: 56
Views: 18601

Re: KLM 777 wing panel falls off and hits driving car

Just to make things clear; it looks to be this panel:

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Sourche of the photo:

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KLM 777-200ER braking action by Nicky Boogaard, on Flickr

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by Iemand91
Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Latest count of 747 Combis still flying
Replies: 46
Views: 10872

Re: Latest count of 747 Combis still flying

EddieDude wrote:
Iemand91 wrote:
Unfortunately KLM will retire 3 747-400M's at the end of this year, including PH-BFC (and PH-BFF and -BFR).
This will result in only 6 KLM 747-400M's left at the end of this year.

The KL routes that are served with 744Ms will become 789 routes?

A combination of the 787-9 and the 777-200/-300.

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by Iemand91
Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Latest count of 747 Combis still flying
Replies: 46
Views: 10872

Re: Latest count of 747 Combis still flying

Here's hoping for a miracle 748 Combi someday I'll join in. :D Yes, Iemand91, sure they can make them, but as you said, they are far less flexible and beefed up (read havier = less efficient). KLM was offered the 748M, if they would pay for the modifications and certifications, no other airline wou...

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by Iemand91
Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Latest count of 747 Combis still flying
Replies: 46
Views: 10872

Re: Latest count of 747 Combis still flying

Here is a hypothetical. Say KLM decided to stay with Combis as long as possible given engineering limits? Assuming the business plan analysis is firmly Combi would KLM be better to pay Boeing to certify a 747-8 Combi rather than spend the ongoing check and maintenance rebuild costs to keep 744 Comb...

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by Iemand91
Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:48 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Stanislav Petrov
Replies: 10
Views: 688

Re: Stanislav Petrov

A person who has had more impact on the world today than most of us ever realize. But he had to pay it in many ways.

Rest in Peace.

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by Iemand91
Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery
Replies: 92
Views: 21663

Re: Fokker 70 Goodbye Livery

KLM announced today that all remaining 7 Fokker 70 aircraft will be flown in formation to Norwich on the 29th where they will be temporarily stored. Every aircraft according to the airline have been sold. On the 29th they will place a tail section of a Fokker at Schiphol East to commemorate the lon...

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by Iemand91
Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 phase out discussion thread
Replies: 614
Views: 211964

Re: KLM Started Phase Out Of The 747-400

http://www.planepictures.net/v3/show_en.php?id=1473714
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PH-BFA stored at Teruel, Spain. Picture taken a week ago.
KLM's first 747-400 and the first/only retired full pax 747-400 so far.

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Source: http://www.planepictures.net/v3/show_en.php?id=1473714

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by Iemand91
Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATTN: AMS spotters... BA438/9 B747
Replies: 11
Views: 2607

Re: ATTN: AMS spotters... BA438/9 B747

Found some more; wish I was there. My father was probably next to the photographer. Source: https://www.facebook.com/groups/FarewellKLMBoeing747/permalink/1435021559920324/ https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21551743_1730284617278610_172371389111230839_o.jpg?oh=212289e562bfae68c70c9ad287...

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by Iemand91
Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 phase out discussion thread
Replies: 614
Views: 211964

Re: KLM Started Phase Out Of The 747-400

The 747-400 Combi is showing her capabilities. PH-BFT has been flown to Curacao and then on to Sint Maarten. Now it's at Aruba and it will fly several times between SXM and AUA. It will return to Amsterdam on Tuesday. Voluntary cockpit- and cabincrew. Video of landing at SXM: https://www.youtube.com...

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by Iemand91
Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM to operate 747 relief flight CUR-SXM
Replies: 34
Views: 7068

Re: KLM to operate 747 relief flight CUR-SXM

Found several pictures: https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21740124_1463112533764842_725599276927260358_n.jpg?oh=db1846fada8fe5f71aeea7d08f4101ff&oe=5A559676 https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21462479_1439055406177982_1091828489673803721_n.jpg?oh=96776be3228ce6cad5147eef5e...

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by Iemand91
Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 phase out discussion thread
Replies: 614
Views: 211964

Re: KLM Started Phase Out Of The 747-400

The state of the stored 747's at Teruel. I'm not sure how recent these pictures are; but as you can see; PH-BFM has been scrapped (parts of her can be seen in the center of the image) and PH-BFO is being scrapped. This could be a dated picture, because it others sources claimed -BFO was being scrapp...

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by Iemand91
Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 phase out discussion thread
Replies: 614
Views: 211964

Re: KLM Started Phase Out Of The 747-400

325i wrote:
Hey lemand91, were there 3 746's parked as one drives up to the KLM Terminal? Saw this colourful sight 2 weeks ago on my way to LHR.

You mean here or here?
Could be, those are parking spots used for parking aircraft.

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by Iemand91
Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATTN: AMS spotters... BA438/9 B747
Replies: 11
Views: 2607

Re: ATTN: AMS spotters... BA438/9 B747

Found some on the internet:

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by Iemand91
Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATTN: AMS spotters... BA438/9 B747
Replies: 11
Views: 2607

Re: ATTN: AMS spotters... BA438/9 B747

Just landed and about to get parked at the gate.

But my father is at the McDonalds spotting place; just called him to that he could see a very special visitor at Schiphol. ;)

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by Iemand91
Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATTN: AMS spotters... BA438/9 B747
Replies: 11
Views: 2607

Re: ATTN: AMS spotters... BA438/9 B747

For things like this; I wish I didn't live about 1.5 hours away from Schiphol :cry: ...

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