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by SurlyBonds
Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:44 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Shortest domestic flights
Replies: 38
Views: 4224

Re: Shortest domestic flights

simairlinenet wrote:
FYI, the longest (nonstop) domestic routes all involve HNL: BOS, JFK, EWR, ATL, DTW, ORD. The longest otherwise is Aeroflot's Moscow-Petropavlovsk.


Paris to Reunion? I would have thought that was longer (which the Great Circle Mapper confirms), and I thought AF flies it.

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by SurlyBonds
Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:46 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Frontier FA Has Woman Arrested For Complaining About Vomit on Child's Seat
Replies: 72
Views: 9093

Re: Frontier FA Has Woman Arrested For Complaining About Vomit on Child's Seat

slcdeltarumd11 wrote:
It was pretty unacceptable for Frontier to not be apologizing, this lady should have not been disruptive.


The lady was not disruptive *in the least*. And be honest: would you lob that accusation at her if she were white?

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by SurlyBonds
Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:43 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Frontier FA Has Woman Arrested For Complaining About Vomit on Child's Seat
Replies: 72
Views: 9093

Re: Frontier FA Has Woman Arrested For Complaining About Vomit on Child's Seat

Is anyone stunned to learn that the passenger was a woman of color, and the FAs and arresting officers all white? Really? You're really going there? If by "going there" you mean "calling out racism," then yes. As I hope we all would be. I hate seeing ignorant comments like these...

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by SurlyBonds
Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:46 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Frontier FA Has Woman Arrested For Complaining About Vomit on Child's Seat
Replies: 72
Views: 9093

Re: Frontier FA Has Woman Arrested For Complaining About Vomit on Child's Seat

Although I recognize that the video does not include the interaction with the F/A, I have a difficult time reconciling the video with the airline's statement. Based on the statement and the video it's reasonable to conclude that on Frontier anyone who insists that vomit be cleaned up is made to lea...

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by SurlyBonds
Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released
Replies: 1792
Views: 363085

Re: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released

The swoop line still looks purple to me even though it's United Blue - have to see it in person to get the proper visual. The detail work on the tail shown in a couple earlier posts is terrific. UA did exactly what Munoz said this would be - an evolution, not a revolution. And IMO they pulled it of...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Top US markets without service to Canada and Top unserved US routes
Replies: 48
Views: 6027

Re: Top US markets without service to Canada and Top unserved US routes

Albuquerque is a truly wonderful city and even a seasonal flight to someplace such as LHR could really improve tourism. There is so much to see and do in that city and it just feels underserved. However, Like San Antonio, there are major airports nearby where you can connect in to get to whatever E...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will/Should Boeing Have a Top Management Change?
Replies: 30
Views: 2730

Re: Will/Should Boeing Have a Top Management Change?

There are several departments that could use a good scrubbing, namely Flight Technical and Flight Training Development, along with moving Flight Training back to Seattle where it belongs. To do that, several people would have to admit previous errors and that will never happen. I don't particularly...

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by SurlyBonds
Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN looking at A220
Replies: 280
Views: 44554

Re: WN looking at A220

Probably just doing it to appease the pilot unions comments of "all eggs in one basket" or something to that effect... No, there will be a lengthy report with financial and strategic analysis. That's necessary for the due diligence as noted above. Fiduciary responsibilities and all that. ...

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by SurlyBonds
Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When did United Fully Phase Out Rising Blue?
Replies: 25
Views: 4297

Re: When did United Fully Phase Out Rising Blue?

richiemo wrote:
When??? Not a moment too soon IMO. Always reminded me of a bad water-color paint job that a 3rd grader would do.


As a counterpoint, I thought it was one of the most beautiful liveries I've ever seen.

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by SurlyBonds
Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest pilots question all-Boeing fleet
Replies: 145
Views: 19713

Re: Southwest pilots question all-Boeing fleet

People like to somehow "blame" WN for where we are today. WN did what WN needed to do for their shareholders. Boeing did what Boeing needed to do for their shareholders. If that's the be-all-and-end-all of the argument, then that's about the strongest cast against the mantra of "maxi...

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by SurlyBonds
Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 142037

Re: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021

JetBlue haven't even officially mentioned what airport they will be serving for London when they eventually start their transatlantic flights from Boston and New York JFK so there are no slots to discuss because for what we know so far they don't even have any slots. LHR slots are very hard to come...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

I confess that I haven't read ALL the posts of this long tbread, I apologize if this has been discussed already. Where are the NASA and ASAP reports from AA and Southwest? It seems inconceivable that they could not have had some instances of the fatal sequence of events that they successfully avoid...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: YVR-NYC Underserved?
Replies: 25
Views: 4383

Re: YVR-NYC Underserved?

Bobloblaw wrote:
Periods, paragraphs and grammar.


+1. I don't read crap that is so poorly written that it's not understandable.

Back to the topic: does Cathay Pacific have fifth-freedom rights on YVR-JFK?

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by SurlyBonds
Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LAX moves forward with plans for Terminal 0 and 9
Replies: 202
Views: 34448

Re: LAX moves forward with plans for Terminal 0 and 9

[ I'd imagine most Star Alliance carriers will move from TBIT to T9. UA definitely does not need that many wide body gates. What would happen to the amazing Star Alliance lounge in TBIT, in that case? I'm based in the Bay Area, but I have been known to connect on long-haul flights through TBIT to w...

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by SurlyBonds
Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Rather, they seem to have to be dragged to do anything here. This is wrong. Exactly. If Boeing had reacted very differently -- voluntarily grounding the planes straight away out of an abundance of caution, jettisoning the "blame the pilot" 'tude, reigning in the PR geniuses, and instead t...

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by SurlyBonds
Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

ET302 should never have happened with properly trained pilots - this was a known issue. That comment didn't age well. :lol: All of these comments blaming the Ethiopian pilots, and saying how this situation could never befall US (and Canadian) pilots, was nothing but pure racism. These comments were...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:44 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Pilots/Flight Attendants: has a passenger ever tried to smoke on your flight?
Replies: 67
Views: 9204

Re: Pilots/Flight Attendants: has a passenger ever tried to smoke on your flight?

This blows my mind a little bit. Doesn’t seem remotely reasonable. By lighting up, the passenger had committed several several offences under UK law. More so if the aircraft was G registered. Endangering an aircraft sits at the top of that list. Not that I'm condoning the behaviour, but IMHO he's n...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Welcome to 'Cattle Class'
Replies: 114
Views: 20053

Re: Welcome to 'Cattle Class'

I know about some serious airline's market research about standing seats: Real passengers would accept it. Especially two groups: No nonsense business men without bags and students on a budget. I would think "no nonsense business men" would be more likely to fly in business class. And wit...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flight Attendants are Selling Their Seniority
Replies: 196
Views: 21834

Re: Flight Attendants are Selling Their Seniority

Why can't you accept that it is not right? Because the "it's morally wrong" point is by no means self-evident, and I think the burden for proving the case ought to be on those claiming that "X is morally wrong." We have here willing buyers and willing sellers; there is no coerci...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flight Attendants are Selling Their Seniority
Replies: 196
Views: 21834

Re: Flight Attendants are Selling Their Seniority

I can't speak as to whether this practice complies with company policy. However, from an economics standpoint, the development of secondary trading markets is usually a Good Thing. Secondary markets promote an optimal allocation of resources: if a particular route is worth paying $100 for, you pay t...

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by SurlyBonds
Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Absolutely this. The point of MCAS is that it was supposed to compensate for *fundamental flight instability* issues. Ponder that for a moment. I have pondered. What's the threshold? The planes should be impossible to stall? Obviously not, but my understanding the 737 MAX is more prone to stalling ...

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by SurlyBonds
Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Are Bus Boardings so Common in Europe and so Rare in the USA?
Replies: 188
Views: 21438

Re: Why Are Bus Boardings so Common in Europe and so Rare in the USA?

I suspect that a lot of this has to do with two things:

1. Older US airports may not have as much apron space as European ones.

2. Fear of liability in the US if a passenger wanders away from the bus and gets hit by a vehicle or plane.

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by SurlyBonds
Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Are Bus Boardings so Common in Europe and so Rare in the USA?
Replies: 188
Views: 21438

Re: Why Are Bus Boardings so Common in Europe and so Rare in the USA?

I routinely fly JFK/IAD --> FRA --> SVO/DME. While Aeroflot has come a long way from when I was a kid I still prefer to fly LH and spend extra 3 hours at FRA. Regardless, i'd say 50% of the time the flight from Moscow ends up deplaning onto a bus. I've never deplaned to a bus landing in FRA from a ...

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by SurlyBonds
Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW Ceases Operations
Replies: 968
Views: 156697

Re: WOW Financial Discussion Thread

klm617 wrote:
No need to worry guys WOW Air has got this. The little engine that could when most people didn't want them to succeed.


And they're no doubt making already safe planes even safer.

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by SurlyBonds
Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

The airframe is proven and (please correct me if I'm wrong) it looks like the changes from NG to Max are significantly less than Jurassic to Classic or even Classic to NG. The airframe is proven? In what universe? The whole point is that the 737MAX did not go through the full certification process ...

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by SurlyBonds
Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

This leads to the conclusion that with over 41,000 safe flights each on AA and WN and with proper training that the MAX is a safe aircraft and will be even safer with the software update and proper training and that even now with proper crew training the grounding of the aircraft whi;le a prudent t...

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by SurlyBonds
Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Except, that MCAS wouldn't even be necessary if the 737MAX wasn't a flawed design to begin with. Boeing had a design that did not require a workaround due to pitch instability problems. IMO once it became apparent that raising the ground clearance of the 737 presented such problems that the only wa...

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by SurlyBonds
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:46 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Man vs machine; are we ready to replace pilots completely?
Replies: 80
Views: 5202

Re: Man vs machine; are we ready to replace pilots completely?

is foolish to think that we are even within 50 years of this happening....The only way that a plane could operate autonomously would be with a full fledged AI that can receive data and coordinate on the same level as a human person. The worst part about this is that every person would be hitting th...

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by SurlyBonds
Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Verry likely for the general population, but I for exemple, am not going to fly a MAX before a long time and it has statistically proved itself. It already has. Hundreds of thousands of flights. Even without a software fix and training change, you're still statistically around 20x more likely to di...

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by SurlyBonds
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The folding wings of the B777-9
Replies: 92
Views: 18456

Re: The folding wings of the B777-9

There are multiple protections so you don’t accidentally takeoff with them folded. Please describe them further. I am admittedly not in a place where I am 100% confident about Boeing quality control, given the MAX, yesterday's reports about the Air Force finding foreign debris in new Boeing planes,...

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by SurlyBonds
Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why no LH or BA in MSP
Replies: 96
Views: 9575

Re: Why no LH or BA in MSP

bagoldex wrote:
Not that many are even allowed to book in J anymore.


Any real data to this effect? In my experience, it's still essentially an industry standard on flights of longer than about four hours.

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by SurlyBonds
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What MAX Ban Means For Air Canada TATL
Replies: 108
Views: 20139

Re: What MAX Ban Means For Air Canada TATL

YVR-HNL will consolidate into one flight and operated by 77W YVR-OGG will consolidate into one flight and operated by 789 YVR-CUN/PVR/SJD/ZIH will operated by 321 YVR-KOA looks like it will be cancelled Wat wat wat, you mean the earth will continue to revolve around its axis if airlines consolidate...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

So according to their statement, "the safety of our customers and employees is our uncompromising priority" why didn't Southwest ground the MAX before now, when they really don't have any choice, but are forced to stop MAX ops. Their actions say more than the statement they put out. Exact...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

a. Any one of us holding shares of any company takes willfully a risk that the share price might go down. Basing the decision of grounding vs not grounding on whether stock prices will be affected is ludicrous. BTW, if there's no grounding and if a third aircraft goes down shares will get annihilat...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

adam47150 wrote:
I just got a SKYNews alert that Boeing is now recommending the global MAX fleet be grounded.


Making a safe plane even safer, indeed. But to quote Winston Churchill, they finally did the right thing after exhausting all other possibilities.

#GroundTheMax

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

dampfnudel wrote:
Breaking news!!! President Trump has ordered the grounding of the 737 MAX 8 and 737 MAX 9.


While it is regrettable that the US did not take the lead on this issue, better late than never.

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

Which US airline will be the first to crack under the pressure? My bet would be AA, but it’s possible that all 3 will be in contact with each other and decide to make the announcements at the same time. Either AA or UA. WN is too joined at the hip with the 737 at this point. (Not feelin' the LUV, f...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

"Ethiopia will ask European experts to analyze black boxes from a crashed Boeing 737 Max jet in a sign U.S. authorities aren’t trusted to determine the cause of the disaster" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-13/ethiopia-to-send-737-s-black-boxes-to-europe-in-snub-to-u-s Wel...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

From what I've read it sounds like there is a known stall potentiality that has been corrected by new software and that requires a bit more pilot skill. So the situation here is different from the DC-10 or the 787 which had identifiable mechanical issues. Not sure grounding a non defective plane he...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

What about the drunk who runs a red light and hits you? In case you hadn't noticed, drunk driving is a major public policy challenge in many places. Only sustained action made a dent in it, and even then, not enough of one. You prescription for drunk driving, if analogous to that for the Boeing 737...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

. "It was obviously not the same thing"and yet you equated the two. Any old nonsense to make a point must be your motto. On the contrary, my motto is "don't sleep through elementary logic class." You and TTailed keep misconstruing the nature of causality. What TTailed misses is ...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

There's some folks worried about damage to Boeing. That's illogical to me. I'd be far more worried about damage to Boeing, FAA and the airlines, if they don't ground and another MAX crash were to happen. At this point, it won't even matter if the circumstances were similar. The public would be abso...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

SQ789 wrote:
Isn't all MAX now grounded all over the world except for US and Canadian customers?


Ain't American exceptionalism grand?

#GroundTheMax

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

The Turkish crash occurred when an incompletely secured cargo door at the rear of the plane burst open and broke off, causing an explosive decompression. Gee, I didn't know that's what happened to AA191. Fascinating. Obviously it was not the same thing. But perhaps taking it out of service would ha...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

If after the investigations conclude and Boeing is cleared... Obviously you have come here to justify a conclusion rather than form one. (Otherwise you would have said "If after the investigations conclude Boeing is cleared." That little "and" makes all the difference.) #GroundT...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

AA 191 crashed and killed over 200 -- yet DC10s weren;t grounded until 16 days later after it became known what caused the crash. The difference: people weren't screaming GROUND IT.. Who knows, maybe if they had grounded it after the Turkish crash there never would have an AA191. And in those 16 da...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

For those of us who are more interested in taking action than yakking ad infinitum on a.net: I would encourage everyone in the US who is deeply troubled by the FAA's do-nothing attitude to contact your congressional delegation to express your opinion. Ask to speak to the legislative assistant (LA) w...

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by SurlyBonds
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

Boeing proved to the FAA that the MAX is safe. That's why the FAA said the aircraft is airworthy and not being grounded. If you know more, please contact the FAA. I do know more: two new airplanes have crashed within six moths of each other in suspiciously similar circumstances. The CEO of Ethiopia...

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by SurlyBonds
Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

But Lion Air crashed two airplanes just a couple of months apart. Do you not grasp that a event, including an airplane crash, can have more than one cause? I have no doubt that Lion Air was negligent in allowing the plane to fly after the reports of its malfunctioning on earlier flights. But that s...

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by SurlyBonds
Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716188

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

Haven't you heard? The FAA speaks for itself Um, no, it doesn't (but thanks for playing). See, there's this wee little thing called "congressional oversight of the executive branch." Congress is 100% within its rights to comment on what federal agencies do. It does so *all* *the* *time. T...

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