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RE: JAT Airways To Buy ERJ-170...

After a long pause, I am back to this great aviation forum. We could say that the last few months have been quite busy behind the scenes, at least when it comes to aviation in Serbia. Perhaps the most work is done when not too much is said in public. Irrelevant of my ponderings, it was great to see ...

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RE: JAT Expansion In Switzerland?

I am pleased to hear the possibility that JAT may establish service to <acronym title="Geneva - International (Cointrin) (GVA / LSGG), Switzerland">GVA</acronym> and <acronym title="Basle / Mulhouse - Euro (BSL / MLH / LFSB), France">BSL</acronym>. It is probably most feasible to go with the <acrony...

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RE: JAT Mechanics On Strike

Qantasflyer, To answer your question, JAT uses the Boeing 737-300 on this route. When it comes to scheduled international flights, you will either fly the 733, 734 or ATR-72. As for inflight entertainment, due to the range of the flight, I would be very surprised if they don't make use of on-board t...

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RE: Boeing Customer Numbers

Here are the Boeing airline codes for Southeast Europe - Olympic Airways (3S), Greece - Malev (Q8), Hungary - Tarom (8J), Romania - JAT Airways (H9), Serbia & Montenegro Bulgaria Air and MAT Macedonian Airlines are also Boeing operators, however their aircraft are leased from Lufthansa and JAT, resp...

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RE: Ottawa Airport Shut Down By Scare

I wonder if and when will we hear the specific details regarding the incident at <acronym title="Ottawa - Macdonald-Cartier International / Uplands (YOW / CYOW / CUUP), Canada - Ontario">YOW</acronym>. I could just imagine how travelers bound for Toronto felt; driving would take less time. Best rega...

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RE: Aero Continente In Zrh

YU-AON went through an extensive one-month maintenance check before it entered service on behalf of JAT. You should not doubt the safety record for planes flying from Serbia & Montenegro just because it employs a plane that previously flew for Aero Continente.

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JAT Mechanics On Strike

The Serbian union for airplane mechanics are officially on strike for over a week now, with workers demanding higher wages. Mechanics in JAT Airways are demanding that their salaries are adjusted to reflect a salary in the range of no less than 40 percent of the average pilot's salary. In any event,...

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European Champions & Montenegro Airlines

Enlight of the crowning of a new European champion in the wonderful sport of football, I would like to congratulate Greece on their victory. It was interesting to note that Montenegro Airlines was the carrier for the Greek national football team to EU<acronym title="Tarom (Romania)">RO</acronym>'200...

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RE: Aero Continente In Zrh

YU-AON is on a dry-lease to JAT. I believe that the reason they have kept the livery is as a direct result of marketing on behalf of Aero Continente in Europe. The result of this is a very favorable leasing contract! The <acronym title="JUST (Japan)">YU</acronym>-AON represents the only 733 leased t...

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RE: Questions On Olympic Airways

Correction to the above, <acronym title="Olympic Airways (Greece)">OA</acronym> now flies three weekly to Johannesburg, direct with the A340. However, does anyone know of their future plans for the <acronym title="Olympic Airways (Greece)">OA</acronym> 732s? A similar situation exists with the old <...

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Questions On Olympic Airways

I recently noticed that the old Olympic Airways Boeing 737-200s are still parked infront of the main hangar in Athens. Will these planes be discarded anytime soon? Furthermore, what ever happened with the fourth Olympic Airbus 340, <acronym title="Aeroejecutivo SA de CV (Mexico)">SX</acronym>-DFD? I...

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RE: Croatia Airlines Opens Daily Flights To Milan

Thats great news for Zagreb, as the opening of this route will certainly promote more business and trade with Italy.

Btw, did Skyservice start flying to Zagreb yet?

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RE: Boeing Presents Its Products To Jat Airways

I think it would be awesome if JAT could get it hands on two Boeing 767s, in addition to a gradual delivery of newer generation 737s. The order made by the government of Slobodan Milosevic back in 1998 was more of a political gesture than anything else. The Airbus 319 is a direct replacement for the...

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Boeing Presents Its Products To Jat Airways

A Boeing delegation, headed by Tom Vanderhoven, has visited Jat Airways in Belgrade. Boeing apparently presented four aircraft models, including the 737-600, 737-800, 767-200 and the 7E7. Some reports conflicted between the 737-600 and the 737-700. Out of all the aircraft models, Jat Airways should ...

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RE: Fleet Rumours

JAT has its eye on Embraer for sure. Some Brazilian companies have signed major contracts with Serbian companies, particuarly regarding the production and sale of train equipment to Brazil. Its widely believed that Serbia, in return, would purchase some jets from Brazil on behalf of JAT. Nevertheles...

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Battle For The Serbian Market Intensifies

After initially disappointing the residents of Nis, as a result of no regular airline service since the reopening of Nis airport, the central Serbian city has now become the focal point of a classic airline battle for the new market. Aero Nais is expected to be getting its first aircraft soon, a Fok...

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RE: Why Not Many DC9's In Europe?

I believe that JAT is the last remaining DC-9 operator in Europe. They no longer operate these planes anywhere other than on domestic flights between Belgrade, Podgorica and Tivat. This should be the last summer we see these great planes, as they will probably be scrapped by their next scheduled det...

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RE: LCC's In Eastern Europe?

KEno,

I do not know why you state Kosovo seperate from Serbia. Kosovo is a province of Serbia.

Secondly, Snowflake recently pulled the plug on its flights to Belgrade. They faced strong competition from JAT.

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RE: Tarom Signs For A318s At Last

I think the A318 order for Tarom is more to do with politics than anything else. Currently the Tarom fleet consists of 15 aircraft: 6 Boeing 737-300 2 Boeing 737-700 7 ATR-42 As there is a great commonality between the 733 and 73G, the current fleet is simple and feasible. From my perspective, in th...

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RE: Non-Pilots: Do You Think You Could Land A Plan

MD11LuxuryLinr couldn't have said it any better. The fact that you would offer to taxi the plane after a solid landing would be the icing on the cake.

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AA Sued Over Lack Of Legroom In Economy Class

"AA advertising which claimed extended seat pitch as compared to competitors" Perhaps from a legal point of view, the couple may have a case in false advertisements, but the idea of suffering an injury in Rome should have nothing to do with American Airlines. I think, though the case is beyond this ...

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RE: Low Cost Carriers Between Canada And USA

Uhhh. Just read over my post. Grammer and spelling errors. This will be one long day for me...

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RE: Low Cost Carriers Between Canada And USA

CPDC10-30,
I think that I did not express myself properly. I consider Jetgo a LCC, and they do cater to business travelers as a result of their lower prices and frequent service to particular routes. My appologies.

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RE: Low Cost Carriers Between Canada And USA

I would consider JetsGo a LCC, as they do not quite cater to the business market.

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RE: Low Cost Carriers Between Canada And USA

I have to totally agree with Olympus69. The airline may have a representative agent at the airport 2 hours prior to departure, but would it really be necessary for that actual plane to be sitting unproductively that whole time? In fact, most short-to-medium range international flights tend to have a...

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RE: Low Cost Carriers Between Canada And USA

Dripstick, Thats great that WestJet will begin service to those southern destinations. I hope that WestJet eventually works their way in to developing a strong hub in Southern Ontario, and starts exploiting the same southern destinations from this part of the country! We could really use more compet...

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RE: Low Cost Carriers Between Canada And USA

Your argument regarding CanJet is valid, however, I have not heard of any WestJet flights to the United States. There is no confirmation of flights to the United States on the WestJet corporate website either. Please correct me if I am wrong! Thanks.

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Low Cost Carriers Between Canada And USA

Recently I have been reading some articles regarding the low cost carriers in United States, and its been really troubling me why Canada and the United States does not allow for LLC cross-border competition. I am sure that Southwest Airlines would be happy to fly to Canada, and Westjet would feel li...

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RE: Balkan Holidays Air Information

VS11, Perhaps Bulgaria Air is interested in tapping in to the Bulgarian charter market, and forcing more competition with fuel efficient aircraft, such as the Boeing 737-300. I think the ideal case would be for Bulgaria to have 2 or 3 well established airlines that would compete amongst each other. ...

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RE: Balkan Holidays Air Information

It is good to see that relative stability now exists in the Bulgarian air transport industry, since the uneventful collapse of Balkan Bulgarian Airlines. One thing that surprises me is the fact that Hemus Air is operating three very different aircraft types; soon to be four. Is this really feasible?...

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RE: Balkan Holidays Air Information

Thanks for the information gentlemen! I noticed that more than half of the Balkan Holidays flights actually goes to Britain. Its good to see that people are discovering new places for vacationing, especially since Bulgaria was never really considered a tourist destination by westerners until only re...

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Balkan Holidays Air Information

I noticed that Balkan Holidays Air has added another two leased A320s to its existing fleet. If I am not mistakened, the airline now has 3 A320s and 3 <acronym title="Tunisair (Tunisia)">TU</acronym>-154s. <br><center><font color="#EEEEEE" size="1" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva"><a href="/open.file...

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RE: JAT And Its Future

VHTAE, I do not know what the flights to Australia were terminated, however, my expectation would be very shortly before the unprecedented U.N. sanctions were placed against Yugoslavia in 1992. Since <acronym title="JUST (Japan)">YU</acronym>-<acronym title="Amarillo - International (AMA / KAMA), US...

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RE: 737 On Transatlantic Flights?

Back in 1989, as a child, I remember flying in a single-isle aircraft with KLM Royal Dutch Airlines between Montreal (<acronym title="Montreal - Mirabel International (YMX / CYMX), Canada - Quebec">YMX</acronym>) and Brussels (<acronym title="Brussels - National (Zaventem) / Melsbroek (BRU / EBBR / ...

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RE: JAT And Its Future

"There were announcements that Boeing will build a huge service and cargo center in Belgrade, and the new fleet plans look like some Boeing planes." The cargo center is in the process of development; however, Boeing went no farther than to express interest in building a Boeing 737 service center in ...

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RE: Jat Airways Middle East Page!

"Why via Larnaca, surely the 733 can do Belgrade to Tel Aviv non-stop, wouldn't the business traveller want a direct flight? These days especially in Europe people want point to point service." That is true; however, the stop through Larnaca does not add much time to the Tel Aviv flight, as it is on...

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RE: Jat Airways Middle East Page!

The website is fairly well done, however there are two things that they missed. In the section entitled "visa and country information," they neglected to include the address of the Serbia and Montenegro embassies to Egypt and Isreal, respectively. After an unexplained short pause, Jat Airways will r...

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Snowflake Pulls Out Of Belgrade

It has been brought to my attention that Snowflake has recently pulled out of Belgrade, due to "commerical" reasons. The SAS low cost carrier served as an alternative to JAT on flights to Copenhagen and Stockholm with the Boeing 737-800s. <br><table align=center border=0 width=500><tr><td><center><f...

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RE: Should JAT Be Disbanded?

(1) "give your paranoid insecurity a break" I think anyone would be agitated and annoyed if the sovereignty and territorial integrity of their nation was being questioned. The original posting could draw parallels with the following: If the Canadian province of Quebec were to separate, the remaining...

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RE: Should JAt Be Disbanded

This is one of the most politically motivated posting I have ever read on this forum. Are you by any chance supporting separatism? Why do you assume that Montenegro will separate from the federation? Recent polls show that the absolute majority of the Montenegrin population supports unity. As for Ko...

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RE: Jat Airways To Cancel 8 A319s Order...

I do not see what is political in the attempt to cancel a deal that would not have served in the best interest of the airline to begin with. JAT was the first airline from mainland Europe to operate the Boeing 737-300, and it would only make sense that the company would eventually purchase an aircra...

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RE: Jat Airways To Cancel 8 A319s Order...

JAT is in a very unfortunate situation, and sadly to say, they are the victim of politics. The original million dollar contract for purchasing a new fleet of A319s was a failed foreign policy manifestation by the government of Slobodan Milosevic, dating back in 1998. The thing that upsets me is the ...

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RE: Bosnia-Herzegovina To Get New Airline

I beg to differ. The industry in Bosnia & Herzegovina is not well established at all. However, in my opinion, it would have been most logical for the national carriers from Serbia & Montenegro and Croatia to fill this void, as it would only marginally change their operations. The above is most likel...

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RE: New Airline For Serbia & Montenegro

I have to say Serbian aviation can be very confusing at times. JAT has three different colour schemes right now (the nice one, the all-white, and the new one). Not to mention that planes are leased by JAT and Aviogenex all over the place. To set things straight, JAT has a fleet of 25 operational air...

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RE: New Airline For Serbia & Montenegro

It will definately be interesting, given the fact that Nis was starved of regular flights since 1998 and 1999. I am glad the new company did not go overboard with their expectations, and the usual crap you would hear from the dreamers. Moreover, I hope the new livery is not characteristic of the com...

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New Airline For Serbia & Montenegro

Developments over the last few months has lead many to believe that Serbia & Montenegro will be getting a new airline, that will serve as an alternative to JAT Airways, Montenegro Airlines, and Aviogenex. The airline will be based in the city of Nis, and will be known as Aero Nais. To begin with, th...

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RE: Bosnia-Herzegovina To Get New Airline

As I am aware, the 733 is not coming from JAT. In fact JAT is more likely to have an aircraft shortage, since 3 733s are due for a C check this summer. And yes, Banja Luka - Sarajevo flights are planned. You have to remember that the pre-war population of Sarajevo was 525.000, of which 29,9 percent ...

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Bosnia-Herzegovina To Get New Airline

Based in Banja Luka (population 230.000), the Spirit of Balkan has arranged the lease of one Boeing 737-300. The company will primary link Banja Luka with Germany, as there are many foreign workers over there. The initial routes will include the following: Banja Luka <acronym title="Banja Luka (- Ma...

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RE: Croatia Airlines Posts Profit

Thanks for the info, 9A-CRO.

Does anyone have any good statistics on Air Adriatic?

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Croatia Airlines Posts Profit

Croatian Airlines announced that it posted its first annual profit since 1996 - then 2,4 million USD. Last year, CTN managed 212 million USD in revenue, 3,18% or 6,5 million USD more than in 2002. Revenue increased thanks to an increased number of passengers, and a decreased interest on the loans ta...

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