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RE: JAT To Renew Its Fleet; Boeing Main Candidate!

Did I miss something?

The ATRs are barely 10 years old. Why even suggest buying new regional planes?

JU101

RE: JAT To Renew Its Fleet; Boeing Main Candidate!

Hi Sobelair, Thats a nice posting you gave. Unfortunately I was not able to read the article. Perhaps the link is outdated. In any event, I think the new director is just blowing some hot air. It is unlikely that the airline will purchase new aircraft anytime soon. Here is why: The better side of th...

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RE: Canada - Croatia Non Stop?

Good one Tomislav.

I think people are more interested in passenger service though.

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RE: Continental To Fly Atlanta-Dubrovnik, Croatia!?

If its true that widebodies have already flown to <acronym title="Split (- Kastela / Resnik) (SPU / LDSP), Croatia">SPU</acronym>, then flying a 777 would also be possible. Nevertheless I just wonder whats the feasibility of operating the rumored route from the original posting. BTW, could anyone te...

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RE: Continental To Fly Atlanta-Dubrovnik, Croatia!?

9A-CRO,

The runways at Cilipi is over 3 km long. I think its length is 3.3 km to be exact.

Nevertheless I think that Split may not be technically acceptable, nor operationally feasible for a Boeing 777. Don't ger me wrong; it would be nice to see a 777 there.

Pozdrav

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RE: Canada - Croatia Non Stop?

Flug, Many thanks for the info. Opening flights between Toronto, Belgrade, and Zagreb will definately be an asset for all three cities. I wish them success. There are not too many possibilities for <acronym title="Croatia Airlines">OU</acronym> going transatlantic anytime soon, as they have restrict...

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RE: Canada - Croatia Non Stop?

Well then, I am pleasantly surprised.

Tug,

What would be my odds in getting a job with Skyservice, as a cabin crew, if I am fluent in Serbian and Croatian?

I would appreciate any information that you may have!

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RE: Where Are JAT`s DC-9?

Hey Sobelair, Montenegro Airlines is scheduled to begin daily service on June 21st, between Belgrade <acronym title="Belgrade (- Surcin) (BEG / LYBE), Serbia and Montenegro">BEG</acronym> and Paris <acronym title="Paris - Orly (ORY / LFPO), France">ORY</acronym>. Air France used to fly <acronym titl...

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RE: Canada - Croatia Non Stop?

I doubt that Skyservice will actually fly to any old Yugoslavian destinations. Rumors were that the company would consider flying from Toronto to Belgrade and Zagreb. Nevertheless, I think there is nothing from it. If you look on the Skyservice website, their European routes are only within Great Br...

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RE: Continental To Fly Atlanta-Dubrovnik, Croatia!?

Though the news sounds sensational, it is equally unbelievable. First of all, departing Atlanta does not sound reasonable for Continental Airlines. Secondly, I doubt that <acronym title="Split (- Kastela / Resnik) (SPU / LDSP), Croatia">SPU</acronym> would be capable of handling an aircraft such as ...

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RE: JAT Gets A New CEO :-(

Hi Sobelair, I am glad you also are a fan of JAT. The egg-shell was etched in my memory since my early childhood days, commonly flying on board the DC-10 between <acronym title="Montreal - Mirabel International (YMX / CYMX), Canada - Quebec">YMX</acronym> and <acronym title="Zagreb - Pleso (ZAG / LD...

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RE: Where Are JAT`s DC-9?

I do not expect JAT to operate the DC-9 on any EU routes, in addition to Switzerland. There are three basic reasons why the DC-9 will not fly to European routes: (1) JAT did not install bullet-proof cockpit doors as the did in the 737s, thus knowingly, not meeting EU standards; (2) the demand is too...

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RE: JAT Gets A New CEO :-(

Correction:

It looks like JAT will NOT open flights to THR, KWI, and SOF, as initially planned.

UHHH!

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RE: JAT Gets A New CEO :-(

BTW, I forgot to mention that the new management did a detailed analysis of the summer schedule. It looks like JAT will open flights to THR, KWI, and SOF, as initially planned. The idea of resuming flights to <acronym title="Dubrovnik (- Cilipi) (DBV / LDDU), Croatia">DBV</acronym> and <acronym titl...

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RE: JAT Gets A New CEO :-(

Glad to have another colleague from the region. Welcome Sasa! If you talk about social, economic or political turbulence, that would definately include all former Yugoslav republics, other than Slovenia. In any case, I am hopefull that we will all come to our senses and work hard, hand-in-hand, for ...

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RE: Where Are JAT`s DC-9?

I believe that four DC-9s are still active (YU-AJI, <acronym title="JUST (Japan)">YU</acronym>-AJJ, <acronym title="JUST (Japan)">YU</acronym>-AJL, <acronym title="JUST (Japan)">YU</acronym>-AJM). They are mainly leased abroad. Any remaining DC-9s that does not find employment abroad will fly on dom...

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RE: JAT Gets A New CEO :-(

Hey gentlemen, I was not overly satisfied by the fact that JAT had a change in management, considering that Vujovic and his team achieved good results. Since 2001, the management did the following: (1) returned profitability to the airline, even after downturn in the world market due to terrorism an...

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RE: B727. An End Of An Era 1963-2004

I always loved the Boeing 727, especially since its design is different from all the other medium range aircraft. I think Serbia & Montenegro is the only European country to still have operating 722s. There are five operational planes still flying, however they rarely fly on scheduled flights to and...

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RE: Jat Airways News, BEG New Site

Forgive me for the above post, it turned out awful. Here is a repost: Here is some interesting news: The forgotten JAT DC-9 that was collecting dirt (for several years) close to the main hangar at Belgrade Airport has finally got some attention. I am not sure what they are going to do with the aircr...

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RE: Jat Airways News, BEG New Site

Here is some interesting news: The forgotten JAT DC-9 that was collecting dirt (for several years) close to the main hangar at Belgrade Airport has finally got some attention. I am not sure what they are going to do with the aircraft, however, my asumption is that it is in the process of being scrap...

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RE: Skyservice To Belgrade, Serbia

Thanks Travelmark, My initial expectation was that a travel agency is organising the flights, and its Skyservice aircraft that would be employed on the route. Do you know the agency in question? Out of all the operators in Toronto, I would think that its the "747" travel agency, however this may be ...

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RE: Skyservice To Belgrade, Serbia

Regarding the original posting, my only assumption was that the flights would be operated with the Airbus 330. Thanks to the valuable information presented above, this assumption is probably invalid. I continue to remain skeptical regarding any plans of Skyservice flying to Belgrade, since I was not...

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RE: Skyservice To Belgrade, Serbia

I likewise will be very sceptical until the first Skyservice plane lands at Belgrade Airport. They usually connect major Canadian cities with holiday destinations in the United States. At this point, Skyservice planes were spotted at the following European destinations: London, Manchester, Mallorca,...

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RE: Skyservice To Belgrade, Serbia

A colleague from Switzerland, purser with Swiss, read it in the news over there. This was basically a confirmation of a rumor that surfaced two months ago... In any event, I would like the Serbia and Montenegro government to first approach the Canadian government, regarding the sabbotage of JAT flig...

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Skyservice To Belgrade, Serbia

It looks as if the leading Canadian holiday airline will operate direct flights between Toronto <acronym title="Toronto - Lester B. Pearson International (Malton) (YYZ / CYYZ), Canada - Ontario">YYZ</acronym> and Belgrade <acronym title="Belgrade (- Surcin) (BEG / LYBE), Serbia and Montenegro">BEG</...

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RE: JAT And Austrian Concluded A Code-share Agreem

Sobelair, The decision to form a new regional airline, Intair Link, must be first approved by the new Serbian government. Some debate has recently surfaced regarding this idea of separating regional flights from JAT, moving them to the proposed regional airline. From my perspective, forming a new lo...

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RE: Plane Carrying Macedonian President Crashes

This is really sad news for the state of Macedonia. President Trajkovski was a well respected leader in the region, and was on his way to attend a conference in Mostar. Delegations from Ljubljana, Zagreb, and Belgrade were unable to land at Mostar, because of the severe weather conditions. The plane...

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RE: JAT Airways Branding: Rescueplan Or Not?

As my colleague, from an above post already said:

JAT or Jat continues to be pronounced, and always has been pronounced "Yat"

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RE: JAT Airways Branding: Rescueplan Or Not?

Mark, You do bring a good point. It was inevitable that the free flow of people, good and services would once again be envisioned between SCG and Croatia. I think the biggest aviation news for the region, in the last few months, would be Easyjet opening flights to Ljubljana from London-Stansted. Its...

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JAT To Open Nis - Zurich Route

It was recently rumored that JAT Airways will open direct flights between Nis and Zurich twice weekly, with the Boeing 737. Charter flights to Zurich were arranged during the holiday season, with demand surpassing what was originally anticipated. Nis is the third largest city in Serbia, located abou...

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RE: JAT Airways Branding: Rescueplan Or Not?

Dc863, Thats not true. Kostunica said that sending individuals who are indicted for war crimes to the Hague will not be a priority for his government. In any event, this policy is supported by the absolute majority in Serbia, especially since the Hague tribunal consistently neglects to prosecute tho...

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RE: JAT Airways Branding: Rescueplan Or Not?

I think that making it "Jat Airways" was necessary to distance itself from the old name, and its meaning. In any event Jat is JAT, and JAT will be Jat. This will never change. I am not sure about codeshare with Croatia Airlines. Could Mark or Croflight please elaborate! From my perspective, Croatia ...

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RE: JAT Airways Branding: Rescueplan Or Not?

Hi JAT, I think that all the operational DC9s are already leased out to foreign carriers (AJI, AJJ, AJK, AJL, AJM), as they are no longer active at <acronym title="Belgrade (- Surcin) (BEG / LYBE), Serbia and Montenegro">BEG</acronym>. I would expect the operating cost of 733s to be almost identical...

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RE: JAT Airways Branding: Rescueplan Or Not?

The new livery is dissapointing for both airlines. JAT Airways: The "Jat Airways" titles are very nice, however the tail lacks color. A blue or red background with a white strip encircling each of the three dots should be considered for the tail. In the case of JAT, it is evident that they are attem...

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RE: Former JAT Routes To UK?

Apparently Croatia Airlines is planning on leasing one A319 from Lufthansa for the tourist season. My assumption is that they will no longer lease the BAe-146s. As a result, the Croatia Airlines fleet will consist of 3 A320s, 5 A319s, and 3 ATR-42s for the summer season. Skyservice is interested in ...

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RE: EasyJet Announces Flights To Slovenia (LJU)

That is a fantatic bargain! 26 euros one-way ticket. Very impressive! I still cannot understand how is it possible to operate with profit, at prices this low. Its a far cry from paying in the upwards of 200-300 euros when flying between <acronym title="Ljubljana (- Brnik) (LJU / LJLJ), Slovenia">LJU...

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RE: Foreign Carriers At Belgrade Airport

JGPH1A, Gladly i could say that smoking has been banned a while back. Yes that terminal in <acronym title="Paris - Charles de Gaulle (Roissy) (CDG / LFPG), France">CDG</acronym> is not very appealing. I do not see them moving anytime soon, especially since all the other central and southeast Europea...

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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

I do not see MAT expanding much more from this current position. In fact, Macedonia could not do any better than leasing a pair of 733s as it does now. This is a small country with limited resources. As for connections to Paris and London, I am sure the market is not significant enough to maintain r...

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RE: Foreign Carriers At Belgrade Airport

Yes indeed. My mistake. Tunisair will fly from Tunis <img src="/discussions/graphics/smokin.gif" ALT="Smokin cool"> The <acronym title="Belgrade (- Surcin) (BEG / LYBE), Serbia and Montenegro">BEG</acronym>-<acronym title="Paris - Charles de Gaulle (Roissy) (CDG / LFPG), France">CDG</acronym> ...

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Foreign Carriers At Belgrade Airport

I found out a few interesting things that may interest people, regarding foreign carriers at Belgrade Airport. Aerosvit will continue with their weekly service from Kiev with the 735. Alitalia will fly daily from Milan with the ERJ. Alitalia will drop flights from Rome, thus JAT will be the only ope...

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RE: Croatia Airlines New Livery!

The new Croatia Airlines livery is dissapointing, not to mention that the tail does not match with the body. In any event, the new Croatia Airlines concept has striking similarities with JAT. Squares versus dots. This is bound to stir up some humor amongst aviators in the region. Had I not known any...

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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Lets just say that it is good competition to airliners.net!

I sure like the best of both worlds

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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Hey Petar! I am glad the fleet is starting to take shape. I hope JAT continues adding 734s, since they are truely excellent planes. BTW, i found some interesting photos taken at Belgrade Airport. Believe it or not, there are pictures of traffic congestion (i.e. a queue of planes waiting for take off...

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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

The second Aviogenex 732 caught fire while in Nigeria, and was consequently written off. I believe the <acronym title="JUST (Japan)">YU</acronym>-ANP is on long term lease abroad. The plane was delivered in the late 80s, so its not old at all. In the meantime, i have some interesting photos. The fir...

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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Actually MAT has returned the DC-9s to JAT quite a while ago, and replaced them with two JAT 733s. The Macedonian livery is absolutely gorgeous! <br><center><font color="#EEEEEE" size="1" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva"><a href="/open.file/255661/L/" target="_blank">View Large</a> <a href="/open.fil...

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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Yes this is the first of two 734s from US Airways. The operational JAT Boeing 727s are on lease abroad for a while now. JAT occasially uses the 727s from Aviogenex for flights to Moscow, since there is a shortage of aircraft in that capacity range. This is bound to change with the introduction of tw...

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Another 737 Joins JAT

Yesterday the second Boeing 737-400 landed at Belgrade Airport, joining JAT. I am not sure of the registration.. A third 400-series jet is expected to arrived next month, from the United States.

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RE: Wow! What A Really Good Livery Can Do.

The new livery and visual identity of Aeroflot is fantastic.

This is far better from the boring scheme they had before!

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RE: What Do You Think Of The New Jat Colors?

Flyboy_se, I have to agree with you for most of what you said. It was evident before the competition began, that JAT was in search of a new identity that would not associated with the nation. They are definitely looking outside the box on this issue, however, I am disappointed with the new identity....

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RE: First Boeing 737 In New JAT Livery!

I went to "photoshop" and made one modification... making the background of the tail in blue, while keeping a solid white outline around the three dots... It looks very presentable and elegant that way. Too late now... I wish i were the direcctor in JAT <img src="/discussions/graphics/pissed.g...

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