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RE: First Boeing 737 In New JAT Livery!

Here are a few more photos taken yesterday: <center><img src="http://www.politika.co.yu/2004/0113/01_04.jpg"></center> In with the new, and out with the old... <center><img src="http://www.b92.net/galerija/pics/2004/01/9440153724002b832565ae141924794.jpg"></center> In my opinion, if ...

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RE: First Boeing 737 In New JAT Livery!

I think the titles look fantastic, but the tail is very dissapointing. I fell in love with the livery that was with JAT up to now: <center><a href="/open.file/470367/L/" target="_blank">View Large</a> <a href="/open.file/470367/M/" t...

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RE: First Boeing 737 In New JAT Livery!

Here is a bigger photo:

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First Boeing 737 In New JAT Livery!

Today JAT Airways came out with its new livery at Belgrade Airport. The attached photo is the first glimpse of the new paint scheme, captured in front of the main hanger at the airport, courtesy of Glas Javnosti. <center><img src="http://www.glas-javnosti.co.yu/danas/_slike/JAT-02.jpg"></center>...

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American Airlines Codeshare To Belgrade

Starting this summer, American Airlines will realise its code-share agreement with Swiss International Airlines to Belgrade. Swiss aircraft will continue to fly daily to Belgrade with the Airbus 320. <acronym title="Belgrade (- Surcin) (BEG / LYBE), Serbia and Montenegro">BEG</acronym> - <acronym ti...

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RE: JAT DC-10 Charters Belgrade - Varadero!

The last remaining JAT DC-10 (YU-AMB) is commonly on lease to foreign carriers, and otherwise does charters from <acronym title="Belgrade (- Surcin) (BEG / LYBE), Serbia and Montenegro">BEG</acronym>. <center><a href="/open.file/3981...

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RE: JAT DC-10 Charters Belgrade - Varadero!

There is only one DC-10 left, the YU-AMB.

The flight between Belgrade and Varadero will be non-stop.

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RE: JAT DC-10 Charters Belgrade - Varadero!

Just to add one interesting statistic:

In a recent interview to a popular Belgrade newspaper, the Cuban Ambassador to Serbia and Montenegro, Huan Sancez Monroe, confirmed that about 2.000 tourists from Serbia & Montenegro visit Cuba annually.

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RE: SAS Routes To Balkans?

Just a correction to my reply above. I think the four weekly flights between Copenhagen and Zagreb is relatively feasible, provided its with the De Havilland, as opposed to the Boeing 737-800. <center><a href="/open.file/463045/L/" t...

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RE: SAS Routes To Balkans?

I am sure that SAS and Snowflake should have more success to Split and Zagreb, since Croatia Airlines does not fly to any Scandinavian destination. The same can be said for Sarajevo. Perhaps starting with 4 weekly flights to Zagreb is excessive. Nevertheless it is clear that SAS (Snowflake) is attem...

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RE: SAS Routes To Balkans?

Snowflake operates <acronym title="Stockholm - Arlanda (ARN / ESSA), Sweden">ARN</acronym> and <acronym title="Copenhagen - Kastrup (CPH / EKCH), Denmark">CPH</acronym> departures for <acronym title="Belgrade (- Surcin) (BEG / LYBE), Serbia and Montenegro">BEG</acronym> in addition to the higher fre...

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RE: JAT Airways To Kuwait And Tehran

I do not think the summer schedule is posted for all destinations as of this time. Kuwait and Tehran did not appear in the Amadeus online database when I tried finding direct flights with JAT from Belgrade. However I am sure they will be added sometime soon. A high-ranking Iranian delegation visited...

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RE: JAT Adding Kuwait

Apparently JAT will fly the following connection:

Belgrade - Kuwait - Dubai - Kuwait - Belgrade

This will be an alternative route for Emirates-bound passengers traveling with JAT through the city of Beirut.

As i posted last week, they will also open weekly flights to Tehran.

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JAT Airways To Kuwait And Tehran

Starting next season, JAT Airways will start regular service to Kuwait and Tehran. This is part of a new effort to focus on new markets in Asia. The airline already has regular service to Beirut, Damascus, Tel Aviv, and Dubai. Meanwhile, flights will be resumed to Sofia (part of the low-cost program...

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RE: JAT DC-10 Charters Belgrade - Varadero!

I am sure the packages are priced enough not to be out of reach for the wealthy. If you look at the current breakdown of the population in Serbia, about 25 percent of the population are wealthy, 50 percent live on a tight budget, and 25 percent require some form of social assistance. Citizens from S...

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RE: JAT DC-10 Charters Belgrade - Varadero!

Belgrade tour operators are organizing the travel packages to Varadero. They have been doing the same thing for destinations throughout the Mediterranean for quite a few years now, with great success. In any event the first flight is nearly sold out, and the next is scheduled for Jan 3rd, 2004. The ...

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JAT DC-10 Charters Belgrade - Varadero!

Starting December 27th, JAT Airways will operate a new charter service between Belgrade and Varadero, Cuba! <center><a href="/open.file/472779/L/" target="_blank">View Large</a> <a href="/open.file/472779/M/" target="_blank">View Med...

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RE: Tarom To Take On Some Four More NG Boeing 737-

Glad that Tarom are getting more 737s. Are they by any chance withdrawing their 733s while the new planes are joining the fleet? Second question: does Tarom own their 733s or are they leased? Its a bit strange that Tarom configured the 737 for 116 seats, since usually those planes would be around 12...

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RE: JAT Will Get Two More 737-400s

JAT have clearly opted to simply things. They are basically splitting the company in two components: medium and long range market versus regional. JAT Airways will take care of the medium and long range market, while its low-cost start-up, Intair Link, will concentrate on the regional market. Intair...

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JAT Will Get Two More 737-400s

About a week ago it was announced that JAT concluded negotiations on leasing two more Boeing 737-400s, in addition to the <acronym title="JUST (Japan)">YU</acronym>-AOO that has been flying for several months now. Both planes were produced in 1989, and will be leased to JAT for three years. The plan...

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Any News From Tarom?

With all the events that were recently unfolding in Bucharest, I was wondering whether anyone has more information regarding the Romanian government order of four Airbus 318s for Tarom, or the resignation of the general director? How did independent newspapers in Romania react to the news? Thanks

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RE: Flights To Cuba

AlitaliaMD11,

Cubana is no longer leasing the YU-AMB. That plane was returned to JAT, and is now on lease to Ghana Airways.

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RE: NW 727's And DC9's

Flybynight, This is a question that i asked myself too. Other than Northwest, another airline that is replacing 727s before the DC9s is Jat Airways from Serbia. JAT took delivery of the DC9-32 between 1970 and 1973. Some of the planes were sold to Northwest last decade, with nine remaining in the fl...

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RE: Cairo Airport

Just one correction:

JAT flies from Belgrade to Cairo with the B737, not Bulgarian.

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RE: Air Canada Needs Additional $4 Billion!

Air Canada is in more debt than some countries!!!!!!!

Why are they buying new jets?

To attain higher efficiency?

What a joke.

I can definately see why Air Canada is the airline many Canadians love to hate. Too bad Canadian Airlines no longer exists.

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RE: What Airlines Serve Dubrovnik?

Nobody knows what the summer schedule will look like if its are not even made yet. The travel companies will certainly have a better idea by early spring. <acronym title="Dubrovnik (- Cilipi) (DBV / LDDU), Croatia">DBV</acronym> is a popular, yet seasonal destination. Cilipi Airport is very nice for...

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RE: DC-9-30 Production History

Thanks guys!

Very appreciated.

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DC-9-30 Production History

From what i have found out, in 1996, 880 jets were in service, while seven years later that number has fallen to 427.

How many DC-9-30s were produced by McDonnell Douglas?

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Price Estimation For 735, 736 & F-100 ...URGENT

Hi Could anyone tell me the price of purchase and/or leasing all or any of the following aircraft models: Boeing 737-500 Boring 737-600 Fokker 100 For a lease state how much it cost when it was sold as new, or average price today (just state how old you would expect the airplane to be, or elapsed fl...

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RE: Foreign Airlines In The US

Current Belgrade - USA route: <acronym title="JAT Yugoslav Airlines">JU</acronym>/HY TAS-<acronym title="Belgrade (- Surcin) (BEG / LYBE), Serbia and Montenegro">BEG</acronym>-<acronym title="New York - John F. Kennedy International (Idlewild) (JFK / KJFK), USA - New York">JFK</acronym> (763) Discon...

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RE: Tarom (Romania) To Buy 4 Airbus A318s: US$219.

ARE THEY OUT <acronym title="Transports et Travaux Aériens de Madagascar">OF</acronym> THEIR MIND! 54.9 MILLION USD <acronym title="Perth (PER / YPPH), Australia - Western Australia">PER</acronym> AIRCRAFT? OUCH <img src="/discussions/graphics/pissed.gif" ALT="Pissed"> 60 million loss this yea...

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Boeing 717, Success Or Failure?

I would really like to know what people think of the future of the Boeing 717. What customers or potential customers did Boeing ask, when they were thinking of the 717 in the predevelopment phase? In the development phase, i am sure that it was cost efficient because it used research and design mate...

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RE: Tarom's Managing Director Quits

Well not all is lost if the Romanian government did not sign on the dotted line in Toulouse or Paris. In any event i bet you more than anything that the Romanian transport minister is not an engineer or been schooled in the field of transportation, so his visit to Toulouse meant nothing. Most of the...

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Re: JAT Fleet Restructuring

I answer your question here: <a href="http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1261947" target=_blank>http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1261947</a> Jat Airways Boeing 737-300s are configured with 126 seats, while the DC-9 has 102 seats. Clearly it...

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RE: Tarom's Managing Director Quits

This is upsetting how business is still done in Romania. I do not know how can the European Union praise the "near market economy," when the population is not properly informed of investments made with their tax money. Still no word on the A318 either. Perhaps it was not true to begin with? What a s...

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RE: A318 For Tarom

That is a very good observation actually. Either they do not update the website frequently, or something else may be happening.

Is it possible that management in Tarom are trying to oppose the decision made by the Romanian government?

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Re: JAT Fleet Restructuring

I personally like the restructuring plan, since it is very feasible. The company is definately striving for simplification, and operating one family of aircraft for its medium range flights definately makes sense. Other than its original nine Boeing 737-300s, Jat Airways also owns three ATR-72s. The...

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RE: JAT Fleet Restructuring

As for restructuring...

By next year they will add more 737-400s and ATR-72s.

So the actual fleet should consist of three aircraft models:

Boeing 737-300s
Boeing 737-400s
ATR-72s

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RE: JAT Fleet Restructuring

Good idea of making the new topic, since we had two conversations starting in one thread! Steph001, You asked if Jat Airways plans to fly intercontinental routes. In fact they are now flying to New York every thursday and sunday, since the middle of september. The agreement was reached with Uzbekist...

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RE: A318 For Tarom

Anyone going to answer the question: which regional aircraft is cheaper to operate, ATRs or ERJs?

I am sure they both have their own benefits, but for a 300 - 500 km flight, what would be regarded as most feasible with normal payload?

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RE: A318 For Tarom

The toughest plan to get rid of will be the DC-10.

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RE: A318 For Tarom

Steph001, I definately agree with what you said. Malev and LOT have complicated things a bit too much. Malev show the intention of replacing the 737 classics with the newer generation aircraft, however this process is definately long term. It remains a question why they didnt acquire one particular ...

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RE: Tarom Decided To End Service To New York

With the withdrawal from New York, i do not see Tarom coming back to North America unless another airline decides to establish non-stop flights with Romania. In that case, Tarom may codeshare on the route, but nothing more.

It will be interesting how Malev react to these unfolding events.

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RE: Uzbekistan Airways Orders 2 767(300ER) Aircraf

Uzbekistan Airways no longer flies through <acronym title="Birmingham - International (Elmdon) (BHX / EGBB), United Kingdom">BHX</acronym>. They started flying through <acronym title="Belgrade (- Surcin) (BEG / LYBE), Serbia and Montenegro">BEG</acronym> instead, about two months ago. The route is a...

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RE: A318 For Tarom

I agree with most of what Mark and Steph wrote. I really resent the political pressure that western nations are placing on Southeast Europe, to purchase new planes from Airbus if their intention is to join the European Union or at least gain support. Big questions are arising in Serbia regarding the...

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RE: A318 For Tarom

Mariner, When talking about the ATRs, i am extending to the dicussion of Tarom possibly replacing that aircraft type with ERJs or CRJs. As for the A318, the cost of purchasing one of those planes is about 40 million USD. Meanwhile the Boeing 717 is about 5 to 10 million USD cheaper. In the case of T...

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RE: Tarom Decided To End Service To New York

I remember we were discussing the possibility of the New York route being terminated, and unfortunately this was confirmed not long ago. If demand is not there, flying for prestige will not make you any money. With a population of over 20 million, i would assume Romania should be able to sustain a f...

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RE: A318 For Tarom

I am really dissapointed with this announcement coming from Tarom. Its an established fact that the Airbus 318 is an overpriced plane, and the only argument to purchase such a plane is cominality with the rest of the fleet, to support the low-yeilding routes that couldnt be flown by the A319 or A320...

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RE: JAT DC-9 Flights?

Here is the DC-9 schedule that is in operation till the the end of march, next year: <acronym title="Milan - Malpensa (MXP / LIMC), Italy">MXP</acronym> JU416 MONDAY 14,20 <acronym title="Sarajevo - Butmir (SJJ / LQSA), Bosnia and Herzegovina">SJJ</acronym> JU108 MONDAY 20,15 SKP JU114 TUESDAY 06,05...

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RE: JAT DC-9 Flights?

Since Switzerland is not in the European Union, what you states is a possibility, but i somehow doubt it. I think JAT will be getting another Boeing 737-400 soon. I posted the news about the new low cost carrier and the planned plane deliveries to JAT about two weeks ago.

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