Hello gentlemen I am glad to see some debate regarding the future of JAT. To be honest, I am becoming increasingly disgusted with the politics being played within the airline. All the unions are creating so much instability in the company, and it disgusts me that the government has become an increas...Jump to post
I think the aircraft is repairable. The federal aviation administration for Serbia and Montenegro are now working on this case, in order to reconstruct the events prior to the flight and landing at TGD. Hopefully the findings will be publicized soon, so that we can put this unfortunate event behind ...Jump to post
I think the airports got some new equipment, but what I would want to see is the reconstruction of the terminal buildings. They are small, old, and outdated. Great investment will be necessary for such an undertaking. Anyways, here are some photos the Montenegro Airlines Fokker 100: <br><center><img...Jump to post
I am not sure of the figures from Montenegro Airlines, and 2004 was certainly a good year for the airline. They had a fair growth in the number of passengers flying with the company, estimated to be around 370,000. As for advancements at the airports in Tivat and Podgorica, I dont think that there i...Jump to post
The JAT Airways pilots union plans on suspending their strike today. The first flight for the airline, after three days, is supposed to take off at 16:50 Belgrade time. Representatives from the union are currently meeting with the government. During the three day strike, JAT Airways primarily accomo...Jump to post
JoKeR, In principle I have to agree with most of the things you said. I think that Vujovic was an innovative character, and had a very difficult job in trimming expenditures while improving service, public relations, modernizing the fleet, and bringing new technologies to the company. He had a ratio...Jump to post
OHLHD, I think the financial situation in JAT is fairly stable. Their results from the past three years were by no means impressive, but they apparently managed to turn out a very minimal profit each year. The unfortunate thing is that the airline most likely made some handsome profits, but due to c...Jump to post
Gilesdavies, I really have a hard time understanding your question, and almost take it as an insult that you would question the safety these aircraft. Had these aircraft not been air-worthy, JAT would not be flying them. JoKeR, It looks like the strike is holding strong. The flight attends may join ...Jump to post
With regards to the staff in JAT, it is necessary to balance the salaries out in such a way that ensures a fair disparity between each profession. In my opinion it would be unacceptable for employees of one profession to receive a higher percentage increase in wages in comparison to another. At the ...Jump to post
As of this morning, pilots in JAT have gone on a general strike. All outbound domestic and international flights are cancelled. Aircraft that are abroad will be repositioned to Belgrade in accordance to the regular flight schedule, and grounded thereafter. The JAT pilots have a long list of demands,...Jump to post
Will the additional A320 be acquired on lease from Skyservice, as is already the case with one aircraft from Lufthansa?
Croatia Airlines posted excellent growth figures last year, carrying about 1.5 million passengers, so adding another aircraft to the fleet comes to no surprise.
Hello gentlemen, I have been very consumed in my work recently, and just now have the opportunity to take part in this very interesting discussion. The four ATR-72s are powered by Pratt & Whitney, and if I recall correctly, Lufthansa mechanics carry out the maintenance on these specific engines. In ...Jump to post
According to my sources in Yuspotters, JAT will be getting a very necessary overhaul to its website too. Perhaps the addition of an online booking system? Their fleet page hasn't been updated for about two years, and luckily, it shows <img src="/discussions/graphics/spin.gif" ALT="Smile/happy/...Jump to post
The fact that the newest version has a lot more color than the <acronym title="JUST (Japan)">YU</acronym>-ANJ is a very acceptable change. I have strong reservation concerning the three dots as the Jat Airways logo, and think that the actual titles are nice on their own. I think that JAT has been go...Jump to post
FCKC, JAT obviously does not have one to two hundred million dollars to spend on just one aircraft. Nobody said that they were considering a purchase of long-haul aircraft either, so I really don't appreciate your attitude that this is an anti-Airbus airline. The fact that JAT is interested in leasi...Jump to post
Bombardier did experiece a blunder when they visited Serbia and Montenegro. The Canadian aircraft manufacturer demonstrated its aircraft on the domestic route: Belgrade - Tivat - Belgrade, however, the aircraft never managed to land in Tivat due to poor weather conditions. The funny thing is that 10...Jump to post
This news is a clear indication that a contract is in the undertaking with Boeing, regarding the 737 product line. It was indicated that no order will be placed with Boeing before the outstanding issues are resolved with Airbus first. I'm hope the A319s are sold soon. As for the regional jets, I thi...Jump to post
I agree with Adriaticflight, Belgrade cannot be considered a hub in the international sense. It is true that there are at least 40 destinations connected to Belgrade, however, it cannot be compared with Budapest, Vienna or Prague - which all cater to the transatlantic market. Nevertheless, with time...Jump to post
Travellers do not like when they have to wait for a connecting flight for more than 2 hours. If and when the airline were to resume flights to North America; TGD, <acronym title="Tivat (TIV / LYTV), Serbia and Montenegro">TIV</acronym>, <acronym title="Banja Luka (- Mahovljani) (BNX / LQBK), Bosnia ...Jump to post
Its nice that JAT is adding OHD to its list of destinations, however, this is clearly not catering to the transit market. I don't think that these flights carry any risk, especially since they stop in Skopje. As we know, demand between Skopje and Beograd is strong, so adding another two flights won'...Jump to post
Sobelair, The idea of making flights more personal totally appeals to me. Likewise, on the return trip from Paris, I would expect a similar token of treatment... something special, that depicts the city of Zagreb. In my opinion, this is a great strategy that ascertains customer loyalty, instead of r...Jump to post
Just to confirm, Air Adriatic has purchased two <acronym title="Air Madagascar">MD</acronym>-80s from Alitalia at the price of 5 million USD per aircraft. I am fairly certain that the price was in USD, not euros. Its great the <acronym title="Croatia Airlines">OU</acronym> will be flying to Ireland....Jump to post
Alright gentlemen, the discussion has become a bit heated!!! As for <acronym title="Johannesburg - International (Jan Smuts) (JNB / FAJS), South Africa">JNB</acronym>, it is very possible that JAT flew the DC-10 to that destination as part of its charter service. Joker, the 722s that you saw last ye...Jump to post
Answering the question regarding Ohrid, the runway is 2.5 km long. The transatlantic departures from that city was with the B-707, not the DC-10. Zadar and Rijeka never had intercontinental service. I highly doubt that <acronym title="JAT Yugoslav Airlines">JU</acronym>, <acronym title="Croatia Airl...Jump to post
I think a bigger question is how long will the current management remain with JAT. The general director, Mr. Milutinovic, is becoming increasingly unpopular with the workers, amongst others. Just recently, the flight Engineers have announced a strike, and its anticipated that all flights could be gr...Jump to post
I sometimes ask myself the same question. Why Ohrid! Do they even get any international flights these days?
Sometimes I come to think that people in JAT probably had a lottery draw for a select number of Yugoslav cities wherefrom transatlantic flights would take place. Hahaha. Who knows!
If Jat is starting its own flights to North America, I doubt that they would be interested in feeding western carriers with transatlantic passengers as they are doing right now, with the same intensity. In any event, cities such as Paris, Vienna, Frankfurt, London, Rome, and Zurich have strong inter...Jump to post
Here is the schedule for Spring 2005, encompassing all the Balkan cities (other than Greece), for flights to and from Paris <acronym title="Paris - Charles de Gaulle (Roissy) (CDG / LFPG), France">CDG</acronym>. <acronym title="Paris - Charles de Gaulle (Roissy) (CDG / LFPG), France">CDG</acronym>-B...Jump to post
Air France has announced that it will once again start flying to Belgrade, starting on March 27th, 2005. It will be a daily service, adding to a twice-daily service already operated by JAT. The planned schedule is as follows: <acronym title="Paris - Charles de Gaulle (Roissy) (CDG / LFPG), France">C...Jump to post
I do not know what to say about loads, however, the whole notion of the Skyservice 757s flying to Belgrade was welcomed by the Canadian-Serbian community in Toronto. Canada has yet to sign an agreement with Serbia & Montenegro, regarding the establishment of regular service between the two nations. ...Jump to post
Here are Jat's schedules for Toronto and Montreal between 1980 and 1991: 1980 (B-707 and/or DC-10): Tuesdays (alternates between <acronym title="Ljubljana (- Brnik) (LJU / LJLJ), Slovenia">LJU</acronym> and SKP): <acronym title="JAT Yugoslav Airlines">JU</acronym> 540 <acronym title="Belgrade (- Sur...Jump to post
JAT of course flew from other former Yugoslav cities throughout the world. The Yugoslav cities that come to mind are as follows: Belgrade, Zagreb, Ljubljana, Sarajevo, Skopje, Ohrid, Split, and Dubrovnik. Zagreb used to have an excellent service to North America, as I recall, having flights to Montr...Jump to post
Hi all, I recently got my hands on a great poster of the JAT intercontinental flights from the late 1980s. I figured that this would be a great all the routes with my fellow colleagues at airliners.net: Destinations served with the Boeing 727-200 and 737-300: Algiers (direct) Tunis (direct) Tripoli ...Jump to post
I will be very satisfied when low cost carriers, such as EasyJet, start engulfing the Balkan market. Slovenia is the first Balkan nation where EasyJet began flying, and indeed the flights between London and Ljubljana has taken a fair chunk from the flights that are operated between London and Zagreb...Jump to post
Adriaticflight, Your dates are a bit misguided. The 737 was built in 1987, and the three 727s were manufactured in 1975 (AKD), 1975 (AKH) and 1983 (AKM), respectively. For a while now, its been known that the Serbian government is slowly stearing GENEX towards privatization. It used to be a large an...Jump to post
The <acronym title="JUST (Japan)">YU</acronym>-AMB truely is an awesome plane, and I had the pleasure of flying a few European routes with it. Nonetheless, the aircraft is significantly higher on fuel consumption than other competing aircraft, such as the Boeing 767 and Airbus 330. As a result of th...Jump to post
I am pessimistic when it comes to all the construction that is supposed to be taking place at Belgrade Airport. The new airport management have uncovered one corruption scandal after another, thus, each time something big is uncovered, construction is halted until the issues are properly identified....Jump to post
Yu138086, Just a correction to your statement: Jat Airways occupies 105 (90 economy and 15 business) of the 210 seats on the Uzbekistan Airways Boeing 763 flights from Belgrade to New York. Recalling some figures that were available last year, courtesy of the Jat Airways website, I calculated an exc...Jump to post
From my sources, Uzbekistan Airways will maintain the twice weekly TAS-<acronym title="Belgrade (- Surcin) (BEG / LYBE), Serbia and Montenegro">BEG</acronym>-<acronym title="New York - John F. Kennedy International (Idlewild) (JFK / KJFK), USA - New York">JFK</acronym> service until the end of the y...Jump to post
It is troubling that someone would actually refer to those mechanics as jerks. Even though they did break the Serbian law which dictates the parameters for carrying out a legal strike in the company (as mentioned in my original posting), the mechanics probably had no other choice since they lost the...Jump to post
Due to the fact that the ongoing strike of Jat Airways airplane mechanics has not received enough attention from management up to now, the union of mechanics have declared a hault to all traffic. Since the original strike began a few weeks ago, the company has been only minimally impacted. Under the...Jump to post
From a few sources that I have read shows that Jat Airways is realistically considering the following preliminary purchase from Boeing: 2 B-737-600 2 B-737-700 2 B-737-800 Two B-767-200ER's should also join the fleet next year but these two planes are to be leased rather than purchased. This combina...Jump to post
I believe that the article published by the Associated Press is misleading, as no contract has been signed. The details of the fleet composition has not been made official, and neither has the number of aircraft to be purchased. Nevertheless, it is believed that Jat Airways is in their final stages ...Jump to post
You can turn your statement around by saying that CSA is attempting to tap into a virgin (growing Eastern European) market that Austrian Airlines have been very successful to exploit up to now. Obviously CSA is not the only airline to catch on to the success of Austrian...
Its clear that the aircraft Engineers are underpaid for their profession, especially given the fact that their salary differs only marginally from the average wage in Serbia. Furthermore, the union demand of 60,000 dinars a month would be very realistic in relation to their profession, and their pur...Jump to post
As of Monday, the union of aircraft engineers have been on strike at Jat Airways, demanding that the airline lives up to its initially agreed obligations of increasing their salaries from 30,000 Serbian Dinars to 60,000. The airline agreed with the salary increase by paying the engineers 60,000 for ...Jump to post
I can tell you for a fact that JAT never purchased or leased any DC-8. The publishing must have been a mistake. Prior to the DC-10s, JAT operated Boeing 707s on their intercontinental flights.
Next year we will hopefully have JAT flying two Boeing 767-200ERs to USA and Canada.
I think perhaps the title of the original posting does not adequately depict the actual events, however, the Embaer 170 is a serious contender when it comes to developing a <acronym title="Royal Jordanian">RJ</acronym> fleet for JAT. Nevertheless, I am sure that the ATR-72 will not be going anywhere...Jump to post