KLM has 33 747's, 10 MD11's, 12 767, 40 (?) 737's and many aircraft with their daughters Transavia, KLM UK, BUzz, KLM cityhopper ~Martinair. <a href="http://about.klm.com/fleet/fleet.asp" target=_blank>http://about.klm.com/fleet/fleet.asp</a> They also outsource a lots of flights. And off course are...Jump to post
I think PW100 sketches an objective picture. The SC wil be used from Big Hubs like LHR. The cost for a ticket an a full 744 or A380 will always be much lower for the passenger then on a SC. Nobody wants to make an extra stop. However no airline will fly to smaller destination if there is no passenge...Jump to post
meals are devloped by spcialized airline people. Caterers play a role in this, they advise airlines on the content and propose changes. Mostly there is a budget per meal, caterers do proposals to make the best of it within the budget. First & Business are also prepared by the caterers. The quantity ...Jump to post
I however think the Ilyushin's are superior ! They have efficient engines, are 10 % the price & don't require a computer M Sc to check the lavatory's ! <br><center><a href="/open.file?id=221648" target="_blank"><font color="#EEEEEE" size="1" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva">Click for large version<br...Jump to post
<i>The airline is planning to commence installing the system in its entire long-range fleet as early as next year.</i> Well I don't believe that. Say there are 300 jumbo's in the air world wide with each 30 people on board surfing. That requires a bandwidth that is not in space at this moment. Putti...Jump to post
Amazing most airlines have it already for years. e.g. Lufthansa : <a href="https://www.lufthansa.com/aerodyn/ck_main.aero?pos=DE&l=en&p=fly" target=_blank>https://www.lufthansa.com/aerodyn/ck_main.aero?pos=DE&l=en&p=fly</a> <img src="/discussions/graphics/spin.gif" ALT="Smile/happy/getting diz...Jump to post
Singapore_Air you are sure motivated for SQ. Just don´t push it too much. It seems to me some airliners.net collegeas are starting to like see SQ taking hits because they can laugh at you because of it. Making mails shorter & more objective could make them more effective. Say you write a letter of a...Jump to post
I think flying regular service with a 319 with less then 80 people is harikirri. The thing would have to be you provide a unique direct connection saving people a transfer/ and a lot of time .. Nobody is complaining on the leg space on a Concorde ! Boeing is/was offering the 737-700ER. Basicly a -70...Jump to post
<i>The consumers' association has complained to advertising watchdogs about Ryanair, claiming the low-cost airline misleads people about its destinations.The consumers' association has complained to advertising watchdogs about Ryanair, claiming the low-cost airline misleads people about its destinat...Jump to post
Hmmm, Singapore < a spectacular island-nation full of culture, glitz and glamour.> Have you ever been in Singapore ?! I must have been in a different place... Its very clean, lots of concrete and not aand I didn´t see glitz & glamour. Take a free tour (sponsored by SQ & Government) and you will see ...Jump to post
I think TechRep has a point, however we don't want to scare away the aviation "starters" like we once were XX years ago ...
Another gold rule violated frequently :
No hostile language or criticizing of others.
pls be friendly, battles enough in the world ...
Cx flyboy ; "B-HUF also has the revamped economy class as well" ? Is the improvement more games or also other improvements ? The current seats are comfy .. <br><center><a href="/open.file?id=070148" target="_blank"><font color="#EEEEEE" size="1" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva">Click for large versio...Jump to post
SQ has bought VirginAtlantic at a bad moment. Just before 9-11 hit Atlantic Business travel. However SQ (like most chinese) tend to go for long term investment/strategy's/relations. Perhaps their stakes in ANZ (/Ansett) & VS are bought to cover for the time Boeing SC's & -LR's, A380 & A340-500's can...Jump to post
<i>I dream about not needing oil anymore </i> What are you saying ?! What will happen to Emirates, Saudi & Gulf Air ? And who will buy those beautiful BBJ ´s for their sons & friends to go shopping in London & New York ?! Man, you have to weigh your words !! <img src="/discussions/graphics/spi...Jump to post
Tiger, interresting standpoint However don't forget that not every carrier is weakened, the survivors will rush-in to fill space left open by others (see Belgium , SN). I think it takes a good network to fill up planes proffitable. Start-ups often have problems with that .. Perhaps bigger airlines w...Jump to post
Oops wrong tower <br><center><a href="/open.file?id=221140" target="_blank"><font color="#EEEEEE" size="1" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva">Click for large version<br><IMG SRC="/photos/small/0/4/1/221140.jpg" ALT="Click here for full size photo!" border="0" width="200" height="149"></a><br>Photo &cop...Jump to post
Probably airliners.net is not the best place to defend "hardcore environmentalists" however Those extremely loud, polluting, smoking and fuel sucking DC8's, 707's, BAC1-11, etc. I think we must be glad that they are banned now ... and it wasn't the spotters / aircraft enthousiasts that were behind t...Jump to post
<i>GREAT another boring white tube design I should start an aircraft cleaning company now, big business ... However if there are taken over by BA, AF, LH, JAL, Swiss, SNBA, CO or whatever there is a minimal paint job ... cheers keesje </i> I posted this reply earlier with Swiss, Finnair & many more ...Jump to post
I think Wouter a student at the aviation college & it seems like he put the file on the site of this college ! Perhaps a "systeem beheerder" (site mngr) there noticed & freaked out for nothing ?? If so and reading this reply, be cool, files like this are all over the net (and worse) & all the guys a...Jump to post
Netherlands ; very few old jets.
I'm afraid environmental regulations make them forbidden ...
I doubt if there are any jet from the sixties left, or even early seventy's ..
KL 747-200 SUD 1978 ?
Man, I'm ashamed ..
Well they fit together. Both - have a good taste for food & interior design - have beautifull & unfriendly crew - are state owned & received billions to survive for the last 10 years. - have the greatest international leisure destinations (Paris & Rome) - have a unique political culture in the airli...Jump to post
Continuing on my last replay , <i> say 36 inch pitch instead of 31 and 5 abreast that would mean ~(5/6 * 31/36 * 142) - 2 rows (bigger galleys/lavs) - ~ 90 seats business light (?) 90 seats business light. Range ~5000 nm : trans atlantic flights or N/S Americas. </i> Let say even more leg room ~40 i...Jump to post
Blair & the Dutch prime minister are both socialist and I believe even friends ... Labor is a socialist party but whats the problem about that ? Many socialist government in western europe for the past 50 (?) years Singapore wouldn´t be on the world map as presently without SQ airlines. That is why ...Jump to post
There also is the difference between ** free-listed/ privately owned airlines like all BA, US based, KLM, CX, LH and most smaller ones and <br><center><a href="/open.file?id=221638" target="_blank"><font color="#EEEEEE" size="1" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva">Click for large version<br><IMG SRC="/p...Jump to post
Lets see , say 36 inch pitch instead of 31 and 5 abreast that would mean ~(5/6 * 31/36 * 142) - 2 rows (bigger galleys/lavs) - ~ 90 seats business light (?) 90 seats business light. Range ~5000 nm : trans atlantic flights or N/S Americas. Is there a market (say daily Geneva-Chicago, business related...Jump to post
<a href="http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/b2bomber/index.htm" target=_blank>http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/b2bomber/index.htm</a> <i>The B-2 stealth bomber combines revolutionary aerospace technologies and unprecedented design, development and manufacturing systems and proc...Jump to post
I don´t like these A vs B discussions, so to make it worse I want to point out that Boeing build nearly 800 KC135 (707) for the US government (Airforce). And builds e.g $1 billion (!!) B2´s for them. Even lot of 747 development was paid by the Pentagon as a transport study. Well those are of course ...Jump to post
Malaysian & Singapore. Before 1972 (?) they were one airline. Had a painfull split up and have had a prestige battle since then, backed by their governments .. I´ve seen some mean pricing battles between NWA & DL lately. Perhaps MEM-ATL to close by ? KLM has few friends in Europe I think. They are t...Jump to post
Wow that's not so good ..
Is it perhaps to expensive compared to a 767-300ER ?
I have the feeling the 762ER, although it is not so much in the spotlights, has a bright future. <br><center><a href="/open.file?id=137401" target="_blank"><font color="#EEEEEE" size="1" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva">Click for large version<br><IMG SRC="/photos/small/1/0/4/137401.jpg" ALT="Click h...Jump to post
Perhaps higher security killed the quick turn around times ?
KLM propably overall the best the oldest one around and still very much Alive and Kicking !! <br><center><a href="/open.file?id=221571" target="_blank"><font color="#EEEEEE" size="1" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva">Click for large version<br><IMG SRC="/photos/small/1/7/5/221571.jpg" ALT="Click here ...Jump to post