Ziyulu wrote:I was told domestic flights in Japan do not contain meal service today. Is that true?
Which leads me to a couple of burning questions I have always had (somewhat relevant to UA) Just about every airline I can think of ( except United ) went from a "recliner" chair for International business, to angled lie flats (and I personally NEVER found even ONE angled lie flat comfort...Jump to post
Also with BR's superior service in *A would feed BR's vast network in TPE to Southeast Asia. It's not really that vast. The only markets that BR serves and not served by NH are CNX, CEB, DPS. Arguably, some markets might be better timed than NH (NRT-PNH) or not require a HND connection (HND-HAN/MNL).Jump to post
As noted above, UA/LH TATL traffic is a bit more dispersed than DL/AF/KL. *A JV has many more hubs in Europe, along with YYZ/YUL going to other mid-size markets in Europe (BOD, OTP, PRG, etc.). You can even consider LHR a *A transit point given how many non-JV *A airlines fly there as well (LO, TP, ...Jump to post
Which routes does NH deploy its 77W with only 212 seats(8F68J24W112Y)?The most often I've seen is 250 seats(8F52J24W166Y) HND/NRT-JFK has the 212 seat 77W. UA 77W doesn't even have F. How is that more premium?? The topic is about premium configuration, not about premium product. I agree F is a more...Jump to post
DL, maybe. AA has a surprisingly premium fleet, especially the 777-300ER. 8F,52J,28PE.. It's about as premium as you can possibly get. Whole airplane has less seats than Delta's A350.. That's no different than UA 77W with 60J. NH 77W has the most premium seats on 77W: 8F68J. A bigger difference is ...Jump to post
Once upon a time, UA created a sub-fleet of “Premium Service” Boeing 757’s for a particular market. The dedicated sub-fleet offered three classes of service: First Class, Business Class, and Economy Plus. For now, I don’t know what UA needs; but I’m sure they will determine their needs once Polaris...Jump to post
Have you read the US DOT HND applications? The only real organic growth from it is UA adding EWR/LAX-HND and AA LAX-HND#2. There rest UA ORD/IAD-HND, AA DFW-HND, and DL 5 routes are all transfer from NRT. So to extrapolate, if Canada were to get more HND slots, I doubt it will just lead to that much...Jump to post
That line of reasoning just doesn't make sense. If UA didn't cover the U.S. domestic markets for LH who could? LH wasn't going to start FRA/MUC to a bunch of tertiary cities (which, individually, are nothing, but aggregated can be worth chasing). Well back when JV was established in 2009, US was st...Jump to post
Thanks Adam, Travel agent mentioned 2x4x2 layout for UA803/804 (May25/June3) so that must be the old layout and think I will switch to ANA which is same price. Flown ANA many times and was looking forward to see how that new UA Polaris would compare.... cheers PHAVR If you are flying May 25, you ha...Jump to post
SFO-ICN is a large market in its own right. Plus even if UA didn't make money on it theyd still fly it to help maintain their position and image in the Pacific. It's break even or even a loss leader at worst. I don't think US airlines do that anymore, most have been proactively cutting money-losing...Jump to post
Aircraft: 777-300ER (This is due to YYZ being AC's biggest hub and having many connection options for North America from NRT to YYZ along with huge asian population, especially chinese population in Toronto that can increase pax on this route for the other way back to NRT) Considering that CX only ...Jump to post
What routes do the PMUA 777s fly out of EWR? The fleets are combined, as are the work groups, so really irrelevant who operates what at this point but the flights but here you go: 77W 48 BOM (Polaris) 179 HKG (Polaris) 79 NRT (Polaris) 90 TLV (Polaris) 77E (PW) 999 BRU (Polaris) 57 CDG (Polaris) 77...Jump to post
The other thing to remember is that UA has a joint-venture with ANA while it is only a Star Alliance partner with Asiana. It makes more sense to send passengers through their joint venture partner’s hub in NRT than through ICN. Except NH doesn't fly NRT-ICN! So UA traffic will all have to funnel th...Jump to post
Amsterdam wrote:AF really? Didnt know that.
But no AF asia or something like that?
Why does KLM still have KLM asia? It was for Taipei right. But still in 2019 it is needed...? No other euro airlines go to Taipei I think so it cant be compared. Do amerixans fly to Taipei? And if yes, do they also have something like KLM asia? I dont want to make a new thread for this. AF flies CD...Jump to post
So I guess the end is near for DL both MNL and SIN. Wonder why'd they'd stuck with these two places in particular when destinations like BKK and HKG went away a long time ago. As someone who's been lurking A.net for years but only created an account today, could someone help explain how and why MNL...Jump to post
Mostly agree, though I don't understand what's so special about GRU specifically... Yes that specific destination is served from both IAH and EWR but there's plenty of Latin American airports with UA service to IAH that don't have it to EWR. There are unquestionably more potential connections to th...Jump to post
Question: is there any other airline in the world that will have the same volume/ratio of a “Business First” cabin as United will? When looking at each seat map of true Polaris aircraft, (new or refitted) Polaris cabins are virtually HALF the entire aircraft. Yes - quite a few airlines have the sam...Jump to post
I should rephrase my question. How do short-haul intra-asian flights work during the middle of the night, when passengers can get no sleep? That 1 am departure to Vienna makes sense, that 2:50 departure to Taiyuan does not! Why wouldn't it make sense? BKK-TYN only operates 3x a week and is likely c...Jump to post
Detroit313 wrote:ORD - ATH is doing very well. That was a very good addition.
BR has 3x daily 77W to LAX year round. Other Asian airlines have mostly 1x or 2x daily year round. Also TPE has huge O&D demand ex-LAX. The one that surprised me is KE... not in the top 10. I guess LAX-ICN traffic is more evenly split between KE and OZ whereas LAX-TPE is lopsided in favor of BR...Jump to post
A bigger aircraft allows you to make money by taking market share, by selling a seat at 450 USD to a pax that would otherwise have paid 500 USD for a seat on a competitor's tight B787. You can keep doing this until the competitor's B787 starts to fly around empty seats. About a competition between ...Jump to post
Does anyone think that the conversion could go even faster if UA (Kirby) was willing to throw a lot more money at the program? Or, is this what “fast as possible” just is? Question: has any other airline near the SIZE of UA ever implemented such a large nose to tail major refurbishment? I cannot th...Jump to post
While I LOVE all of the Neatherlands, why is BRU such a premium market? I. Very nice that you love the Netherlands, but Brussels is in Belgium. To answer your question, Brussels is the capital of the European Union, as well as NATO. Certainly contributory to the large premium demand. In addition, S...Jump to post
NH could do a NRT-YYZ while AC keeps YYZ-HND. Also NH could also do a JV w AC as CA has a JV with AC. There's very little that AC can offer to NH that UA doesn't already provide, besides a few prairie and Atlantic cities in Canada. AC has decided to work closely with CX than NH/OZ/CA for its onward...Jump to post
If IAD and IAH can be served by NH, I think it's a joke that neither NH or JAL serves YYZ. That's because NH/UA have TPAC JV which generates much more connecting traffic between US-Japan-Asia and beyond. It's quite possible that AC already has the Canada-Japan O&D market covered with YUL-NRT an...Jump to post
Not sure why UA needs to redo EWR Terminal C considering that there has been lots of investment made in after security concessions, seating, and new Polaris lounge. TSA security has been completely remodeled, much faster and shorter lines. Maybe it's missing a few art pieces and the grand views that...Jump to post
evank516 wrote:They do fly to Asia from JFK. JAL and Cathay Pacific do it for them.
I assume that EK, VS, SQ all flying to SEA and being a DL hub, all have an impact to the connecting traffic LH can attract. YVR connecting traffic still mostly goes through YYZ/FRA so it would make sense for LH to send a larger equipment.
Kinda like LH flying A330 to DFW vs A380 to IAH.
This is a very interesting discussion. I think this is where the final product for Delta goes: LAX-HND SEA-HND SEA-NRT PDX-HND MSP-HND DTW-HND ATL-HND HNL-NRT KOA-NRT (future) Here is why I think this is the final product. First, I think SEA could totally serve both NRT and HND as it is the lowest ...Jump to post
Panama would be a great hub for Europe, GRU and EZE are great for the other end of Latin America and well served. In north Latin America there is nothing between Bogota and Mexico City. CCS is next to dead. Havana is for Cuba. Copa needs to leverage what they have created since the 737 MAX has take...Jump to post
I'm surprised it is so profitable as the crew costs alone must take a ferocious bite out of the revenue. Then, at the end the hotel costs for them all. Doing ultra longhaul properly ain't cheap and QF does do things properly. Why would crew costs be more, considering they would need 2 sets of crew ...Jump to post
It could be because UA/AA prefer to route their US-Africa traffic through LHR/BRU/FRA instead of US hubs given the JV. This can allow UA/AA to capitalize on more profitable flights by sending their planes elsewhere instead. As you noted, *A has partners who already provide coverage on direct Africa-...Jump to post
In comparision with recently announced SFO-AMS by UA(with no feed on AMS end), it will start daily year round, considering KL has already served this route for long times. So, I think the demand for SFO to Italy is absolutely more than SFO-AMS. UA can try a summer seasonal first. Under what asserti...Jump to post
Depends on the type of traffic each airline is targeting and what overlaps with other hubs. For DEN-MIA, there's limited amount of O&D traffic on both carriers, so the rest of the traffic would be connecting passengers. For UA, DEN, as a connection point, doesn't offer that much more than what's...Jump to post
Delta never made a dime in JFK-TYO. And, judging by the capacity offered by JAL and ANA, they don't make much either. "Prestige" don't equal "Profits" in the airline business. To be fair, JL and NH are not really dumping a lot of capacity on that route considering they're using ...Jump to post
Almost immediately after DL cancelled JFK-NRT, JL jumped on the flight and now operates a daily double with the 787, and with successful results apparently. That's not entirely correct. JL always had double daily on NRT-JFK, one of them used to do NRT-JFK-GRU. Then JL ended NRT-GRU and reduced capa...Jump to post
the gates that UA use are extremely limited when it comes to seats, power, and space. Im glad UA is finally pumping money into improving the facilities. Is HNL getting a Polaris lounge? NH is building a new lounge in HNL to be opened with the A380 launch. The lounge will have direct boarding to the...Jump to post
I never said MAD doesn't offer a lot of connections, I said they are inferior as a hub compared to CDG, AMS, MUC or FRA, which is true. Furthermore, you are concentrating purely on the US point of sale while neglecting the other side. UA and LH are definitely that strong on the Europe-US market exa...Jump to post
TK is another major airline that's only 2-3-2 on their 77W. I think the answer to OP's question is that there are multiple factors, including marginal revenue generated, customer's expectations, route competition (including yield/profitability), load factors, schedule, route network/coverage, etc. A...Jump to post
Elaborate on that. I don't disagree but how can AA and JL become more tightly linked? What is it that UA and NH are doing better on the joint venture front? I guess feed might be one factor, considering AA/JL only flies from JFK, ORD, LAX, DFW to TYO. Hubs such as MIA, CLT, PHL are not providing ad...Jump to post
And why not try to improve? United is obviously very weak, because the products of Korean Air and Asiana Airlines are much better, as United could compete with their Boeing 747-400 along with the Boeing 747-8i of Korean Air its product is brutally superior, but with the new Polaris class United can...Jump to post
United needs more B77W in SFO especially mainly in routes like Seoul it is impressive that Korean Air leads the market in such a strong Star Alliance territory, Shanghai PVG also needs the B77W service, and ORD also needs B77W for its missions in Asia, LHR and FRA But why does SFO-ICN/PVG need 77W?...Jump to post