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by xiaotung
Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:13 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Hong Kong airport disruptions due protest
Replies: 183
Views: 45013

Re: Hong Kong airport cancel all flights today

ago According to Flightradar Virgin Australia has retimed it’s flights out of Hong Kong for 11am/1130am Local time 13/8. The flight to SYD is showing a time of 10am, MEL 1130am, if SYD gets delayed beyond 12 it will hit the curfew for SYD. VA still has both HKG flights operating tomorrow which mean...

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by xiaotung
Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkish Airlines eyes HNA 20% stake in Virgin Australia
Replies: 8
Views: 1875

Re: Turkish Airlines eyes HNA 20% stake in Virgin Australia

Three news reports but only one source: Bloomberg!

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by xiaotung
Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 471
Views: 83588

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2019

As for the alleged DL ownership, I have never read anywhere that DL is interested other than here on A.net. Buying into a money losing airline with very little strategic importance doesn't seem like anything DL would want to do. DL hasn't ruled anything out regarding VA back in 2016. This was estab...

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by xiaotung
Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 471
Views: 83588

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2019

SQ can't be treated as serious buyers those days considering the contradicting statements from them. Every year "SQ" claims to want a "bigger" stake, they have all turned out to be "fizzers". In addition, SQ have directly blamed VA for a profit downturn in the most rec...

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by xiaotung
Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 471
Views: 83588

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2019

In relation to SQ mentioning VA's poor financial performance for a profit downturn at the SQ group, TK (Turkish Airlines) have recently being mentioned among the interested parties for HNA's stake in VA. TK now joins other previously mentioned parties in the past few years such as NH and DL for the...

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by xiaotung
Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2019
Replies: 429
Views: 65592

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2019

Final decision on QF/CX codeshare deal has been handed down, the proposed deal has been rejected https://www.iasc.gov.au/determinations_decisions/2019/2019iasc204.aspx Ironically the NZ/CX deal got approved and is operating, would have thought the NZ/CX deal would have had an lot more conflicts tha...

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by xiaotung
Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SQ signs MOU with MH to expand codesharing, among other areas of co-operation
Replies: 18
Views: 5182

Re: SQ signs MOU with MH to expand codesharing, among other areas of co-operation

Interesting development to coinside with recent comments made by the SQ CEO on how they lack a domestic market compared to other major carriers. MH may provide an answer for him.

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by xiaotung
Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 37224

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

A handful a day. between LA/CX LA/NZ NZ/NZ and NZ/SQ. Single digits per day probably, maybe low double digits transit to Asia and often redemption tickets. It isn't priced competitively for one thing (except occasionally LA) and for 2, the connections are currently long and arduous and any people w...

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by xiaotung
Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 478
Views: 67679

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

*A now has a sub membership called Connecting Partners. It's inexpensive and requires cooperation with minimum of 3 *A members. It could open the door for VA and a workaround with NZ and UA for the time being. NH and AC both have signaled willingness to work with VA. Plus SQ that's already 3 members...

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by xiaotung
Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United could resume Guangzhou; seeks Air China Joint-Venture
Replies: 28
Views: 5107

Re: United could resume Guangzhou; seeks Air China Joint-Venture

You can't do JV without open skies.

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by xiaotung
Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SAS announces first Airbus A350-900 routes
Replies: 27
Views: 7546

Re: SAS announces first Airbus A350-900 routes

Same Business product as the current A340/A330 fleet?

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by xiaotung
Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thai Smile joining Star Alliance as Connecting Partner
Replies: 10
Views: 2734

Re: Thai Smile joining Star Alliance as Connecting Partner

Doesn't *A have offer affiliate membership type? I thought Thai Smile might become an affiliate member of TG... Or does that come with more cost? No, *A doesn't have a secondary membership type like oneworld. The likes of United Express, Air Canada Rouge, Air Japan are all operating under the wings...

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by xiaotung
Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PVG Satellite Terminal Construction Update?
Replies: 2
Views: 756

Re: PVG Satellite Terminal Construction Update?

The satellite terminal S1 and S2 are just extension of the current terminals linked by light rail. There is no landside and check in is still done at T1/T2. S1 will be used by T1 airlines and S2 by T2 airlines. It will make airside transfer possible between T1 and T2.

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by xiaotung
Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OA flights operated on A3 aircraft - what is the relationship?
Replies: 4
Views: 898

Re: OA flights operated on A3 aircraft - what is the relationship?

All Greek domestic flights are operated by OA now even if the aircraft is from A3. They are getting away with this with the term "wet lease" so that they do not have to honor Star Gold benefits, as OA is not part of *G. However when an OA aircraft is operating for A3 on some international ...

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by xiaotung
Fri May 17, 2019 2:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 366
Views: 65879

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Hainan has closed reservations on CSX-SYD from 13 Sep and XIY-SYD from 15 Jun https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/284340/hainan-airlines-sydney-inventory-changes-from-june-2019/ Looks like HNA's strategic investment in VA is no longer important. Their last route Haikou-Sydney which st...

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by xiaotung
Mon May 06, 2019 4:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 374
Views: 46746

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2019

Very interesting article in Stuff today about NZ flights to China, and the struggle for profitability. Could we see another Air China codeshare into Shanghai instead of NZ flying its own metal? https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/112486110/air-new-zealand-looses-in-excess-of-100m-over-13-ye...

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by xiaotung
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CN3 together with HO battling over traffic rights over PVG-LON
Replies: 6
Views: 1689

Re: CN3 together with HO battling over traffic rights over PVG-LON

MU and CA won. HO has applied for PVG-HEL-MAN instead.

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by xiaotung
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Helsinki in vogue: Tibet Airlines to fly to HEL from Lhasa via Jinan in April, followed by CZ/HO from CAN/PVG later
Replies: 67
Views: 14364

Re: Helsinki in vogue: Tibet Airlines to fly to HEL from Lhasa via Jinan in April, followed by CZ/HO from CAN/PVG later

Sichuan Airlines joins in: CAAC reported Sichuan has applied for 2 weekly Chengdu – Helsinki service from August 2019. Juneyao Airlines seems to operate to HEL 4x weekly during the winter season and furthermore, both airlines seem to be willing to use 5th freedom rights (from HEL I believe) Airline...

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by xiaotung
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Helsinki in vogue: Tibet Airlines to fly to HEL from Lhasa via Jinan in April, followed by CZ/HO from CAN/PVG later
Replies: 67
Views: 14364

Re: Helsinki in vogue: Tibet Airlines to fly to HEL from Lhasa via Jinan in April, followed by CZ/HO from CAN/PVG later

Sichuan Airlines joins in: CAAC reported Sichuan has applied for 2 weekly Chengdu – Helsinki service from August 2019. Juneyao Airlines seems to operate to HEL 4x weekly during the winter season and furthermore, both airlines seem to be willing to use 5th freedom rights (from HEL I believe) Airline...

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by xiaotung
Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - February 2019
Replies: 300
Views: 35883

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - February 2019

Wow AC back to AKL. Been a while. But not unanticipated. Nice timings. Good to see another North American operator at AKL. Is this seasonal or year-round? Wouldn't hold your breath on EY into Star - will sure be interesting if indeed this is what eventuates. Don't think AI will let EY's stake in 9W...

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by xiaotung
Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - February 2019
Replies: 300
Views: 35883

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - February 2019

I thought many years ago when NZ started to codeshare with EY was to keep EY from joining the trans-Tasman market. So EY entering *A shouldn't change the status quo. You would also think EY would have talked to NZ for them not to veto.

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by xiaotung
Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Avianca Brasil declares bankruptcy
Replies: 118
Views: 29730

Re: Avianca Brasil declares bankruptcy

I heard that Azul were considering the possibility of joining the AV-UA joint venture. Are they preparing for the worst?

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by xiaotung
Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:58 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: The most disconnected Alliance member?
Replies: 20
Views: 5026

Re: The most disconnected Alliance member?

In terms of FFP earn/burn, NZ wins hands down.

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by xiaotung
Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oneworld adds Royal Air Maroc as its newest member
Replies: 141
Views: 35537

Re: Rumour: Oneworld to add new member 05DEC18

I think CZ (China Southern) could join one world some day, but probably not now. I assume that Star has some sort of non-compete/alliance jump clause that might have a contract waiting period to join another alliance, as Mexicana faced. MX left Star but had to wait at least a year before joining OW...

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by xiaotung
Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official: China Southern to exit SkyTeam
Replies: 108
Views: 24757

Re: Official: China Southern to exit SkyTeam

Related: China Eastern (Skyteam) to buy a stake in Juneyao (Star Alliance 'connect' partner). Looks like either the Alliances are slowly becoming 'irrelevant' if Alliance members keep buying into airlines of opposing alliances. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201811/22/WS5bf64900a310eff30328a6d3.htm...

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by xiaotung
Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official: China Southern to exit SkyTeam
Replies: 108
Views: 24757

Re: Official: CZ to exit SkyTeam

SkyTeam had too many Mainland carriers already: CZ, MU and MF, not to forget FM. They failed to add too much value to the alliance, not to mention that alliances themselves have plateaued in importance. If Oneworld does manage to allow room for both CZ and CX, it can take a stranglehold on the Pear...

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by xiaotung
Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official: China Southern to exit SkyTeam
Replies: 108
Views: 24757

Re: Official: CZ to exit SkyTeam

Any word on CZ subsidiary MF (Xiamen Airlines) will follow it out of SkyTeam? Would be kind of award if the parent airline is out by the subsidiary airline is still in. CZ quit on the exact 10 year anniversary of joining SkyTeam and the wording of the news release is that they will not renew the co...

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by xiaotung
Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official: China Southern to exit SkyTeam
Replies: 108
Views: 24757

Re: Official: CZ to exit SkyTeam

This is not really a surprise, but still an interesting development. This got me thinking, when was the last addition to ST, OW or Star Alliance? In 2014: Air India joined Star Alliance, Sri Lankan joined Oneworld and Garuda Indonesia joined SkyTeam. After 2014, no airline has joined these alliance...

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by xiaotung
Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official: China Southern to exit SkyTeam
Replies: 108
Views: 24757

Re: Official: CZ to exit SkyTeam

when CX leave OW? Probably not going to happen as recently the have strengthen the OW ties (Eg Qantas codeshare). CZ and CX even though closely located, probably don't compete as there markets are different. Perhaps it's not as simple as that. It's no secret that CX has been blocking any oneworld r...

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by xiaotung
Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official: China Southern to exit SkyTeam
Replies: 108
Views: 24757

Official: China Southern to exit SkyTeam

China Southern just announced on Chinese social media that they will exit SkyTeam in 2019 to deepen cooperation with AA but no mention of oneworld. Also no mention of CZ subsidiary MF but can't expect it to remain in SkyTeam if the parent company leaves.

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by xiaotung
Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alitalia News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1441
Views: 344090

Re: Alitalia bankruptcy and selling process discussion thread

If LH is confident to reach a commercial agreement with AZ not investing into it, it perhaps means they know the winning bid is not going to come from a competing airline, such as DL.

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by xiaotung
Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2018
Replies: 352
Views: 50683

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2018

getluv wrote:
Today is the last day of the NZ and VA partnership. Their ties will be completely severed as there is no interline agreement in place.


NZ has confirmed interline remains.

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by xiaotung
Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - October 2018
Replies: 474
Views: 42465

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - October 2018

NZ have said no to this, but I do wonder if they'd consider flying to Beijing's Daxing Airport, which will open in 2019. - It is forecast that Daxing will be the world's biggest airport in the future - will be great for AKL to be linked there - CA only flies 4x weekly to AKL, so a 3x weekly NZ Daxi...

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by xiaotung
Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - October 2018
Replies: 474
Views: 42465

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - October 2018

On China, in a recent interview of NZ North Asia GM Scott Carr, he said they had no plan to operate from a second Chinese city. Their focus is on building double daily PVG service and working with CA to increase frequency from PEK. They have set a target of doubling daily PVG by 2022 which would the...

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by xiaotung
Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 71381

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

CX and QF announce a new codeshare covering Perth and Cairns Cathay flights, Cathay Pacific South East Asia and Subcontinent flights and Qantas domestic. https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-releases/cathay-pacific-and-qantas-codeshare-to-bring-australia-and-asia-closer/ Is this another slap in ...

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by xiaotung
Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 71381

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

CX and QF announce a new codeshare covering Perth and Cairns Cathay flights, Cathay Pacific South East Asia and Subcontinent flights and Qantas domestic. https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-releases/cathay-pacific-and-qantas-codeshare-to-bring-australia-and-asia-closer/ Is this another slap in ...

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by xiaotung
Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 307
Views: 34380

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2018

SGN is seasonal anyway and ends late October normally. Suspending HND makes sense given the long layover. I’d imagine additional NRT might depart AKL as late as 0200 with the aircraft off the late SYD/MEL used? NZ has cited inconsistent demand as part of the reason for ending SGN. I guess we will n...

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by xiaotung
Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 71381

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

https://www.aviationpros.com/press_rele ... -australia

So NZ has dumped QF as the ground handling agent in Australia. Or was QF before the current one? Apparently the QF/NZ codeshare relationship has done nothing other than pissing off VA.
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https://www.aviationpros.com/press_rele ... -australia

So NZ has dumped QF as the ground handling agent in Australia. Or was QF before the current one? Apparently the QF/NZ codeshare relationship has done nothing other than pissing off VA.

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by xiaotung
Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 660
Views: 72223

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

After the small shareholders are excluded there are only 5 shareholders (SQ ~20%, EY ~20%, HNA ~21%, Nanshan ~20%, Virgin ~11%). EY and Virgin have no interest in increasing their holding because EY can't afford it and Virgin are happy with a minor holding and board representation. This means that ...

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by xiaotung
Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 660
Views: 72223

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-30/hna-s-virgin-australia-stake-is-said-to-draw-bidders-interest This is the first article I have seen to indicate that HNA may be selling their VA stakes. What the article fails to mention is neither SQ nor Nanshan can buy HNA's stakes without launchi...

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by xiaotung
Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 660
Views: 72223

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

VA need some out of the box so to speak thinking. Indeed - on this, I'd love to see them beat QF to doing SYD - SEA, and to tie in with DL's hub at SEA. Cheers, C. As much as I like VA getting closer to *A, I think North America is where VA can make money. If DL can help them, they should really ab...

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by xiaotung
Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 660
Views: 72223

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

HNA came after NZ's exit, as you mentioned via new shares being issued. Nanshan (another Chinese shareholder) was the party to ultimately buy NZ's stake. I thought it was the other way around. NZ announced intention to sell first. VA then issued new shares to NHA. And lastly NZ sold to Nanshan for ...

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by xiaotung
Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 660
Views: 72223

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

In my opinion VA's China venture is a suicide mission and should never have started. The right decision back then should be sacking JB right then and there. It wasn't going to happen when the other shareholders (EY, SQ and Virgin Group) didn't agree with Luxon's "alleged" demands for VA t...

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by xiaotung
Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 660
Views: 72223

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

VS's HKG flight also has a interline arrangement with VA's ex-SYD/MEL-HKG flights. VA's HKG services are not really about VS's LHR connections - great that they're available, but they're lower in importance to 1) O&D traffic and 2) Chinese connections. IIRC one-way, the VA and VS services don't...

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by xiaotung
Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 269
Views: 27938

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2018

He does make a good point - with the US trade war ramping up, might we see some further re-allocation of Chinese airline US capacity to Australasia (specifically AKL)? I can see MF doing AKL - XMN as the most likely new carrier and route, but I wouldn't write off the following cities, all with air ...

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by xiaotung
Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 660
Views: 72223

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Just because the parent of airlines are owned by the larger carriers in the big 3 doesn't necessarily mean they'll immediately join the alliance of their parent. EI (BA), VS (DL), etc. Also, EY may possibly be facing a veto from UA on the back of the CEOs of the US3 hostilities towards the ME3. The...

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by xiaotung
Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 660
Views: 72223

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Previously I've read that *A members weren't allowed to codeshare with airlines outside of their alliance, although I don't know how true this was. This hasn't been the case in recent years however e.g (LH and EY), along with QF and NZ. However the loosening of rules within the alliances as of late...

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by xiaotung
Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 660
Views: 72223

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Does Sydney Really Need A second Airport. What are your thoughts? 100%. The SYD curfew is one problem. A city the size of Sydney should have a 24/7 airport. SYD does not have the luxury of having flights take off around midnight to connect with a morning flight in an Asian hub. More often you need ...

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by xiaotung
Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Avianca to enter the GRU-EZE route
Replies: 4
Views: 702

Re: Avianca to enter the GRU-EZE route

Now we only need A0 to join *A asap!

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